Visions For A More Beautiful World: A Wake Up Call - w/ Charles Eisenstein | Know Thyself EP 60

Charles Eisenstein shares his vision for creating a more beautiful world that our hearts know is possible. He explains why all the crises we experience today, are rooted in the single origin of separation, and how by healing this wound within ourselves, we can heal the world.
Charles dives deep on the importance of energetic intention within any revolution for change, the limitations of labeling things as 'good' and 'bad', and how to alchemize anger into a collective awakening.
In this era of change, everyone plays a role. And each person's role is just as valuable, no matter how big or small it may seem. Charles shares the vision of a harmonious collective consciousness, and how you alone can contribute to it.
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Timecodes:
0:00 Intro
2:37 The Peril of Separation in Our Society
11:31 Why Energetic Intention is Essential for Change
16:35 Transforming Our Anger into Awakening
22:04 Why 'Good' and 'Bad' Labels are a Limitation
26:11 The More Beautiful World That is Possible: A State of Interbeing
29:50 Charles' Personal Experiences & Working with Robert F Kennedy
33:38 How our Purpose is Unveiled to Us
39:57 The Power of a Harmonious Collective Consciousness
43:34 How You Alone Can Make a Difference
46:17 Creating Spaces & Communities to Experience Our New Reality
49:31 Will Things Get Worse Before They Get Better?
54:29 Robert F Kennedy as a Presidential Candidate
58:31 Life is a Gift
1:01:39 Conclusion
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Charles Eisenstein is a teacher, speaker, and writer focusing on themes of civilization, consciousness, money, and human cultural evolution. His writings on the web magazine Reality Sandwich have generated a vast online following; he speaks frequently at conferences and other events, and gives numerous interviews on radio and podcasts. Writing in Ode magazine's "25 Intelligent Optimists" issue, David Korten (author of When Corporations Rule the World) called Eisenstein "one of the up-and-coming great minds of our time." Eisenstein graduated from Yale University in 1989 with a degree in Mathematics and Philosophy, and spent the next ten years as a Chinese-English translator.
Website: charleseisenstein.org
Books: charleseisenstein.org/books/
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[@dianaderamon-rius1760]

this is spirit medicine per se on all levels - the heart -the intellect -on a psychological level -politicaly - spiritualy - Ayuahasca without the taste on this complex multidimensional level spoken with love for all of humanity - that is for the depth of soul a graceful gift ! Thank you Charles Eisenstein for being - deeply grateful !

[@shaivalishah1621]

Charles is a wise man, so many insights, so many inspirations came through. Thank you Charles. Your humbleness, your wisdom, your reflections - are priceless. Andrew - beautiful work brother. Keep going. Please do bring Charles back on the podcast on regular basis.

[@elenoraxelson9678]

I bought lottery tickets today but this talk is worth more than any amount of money I could dream of. Thank you, thank you, thank you!❤

[@taralisbah]

Well said!❤️

[@robturner7024]

Even if you won the lottery you would still be suffering and probably even worse Bc you now have an inflated sense of self.

[@elenoraxelson9678]

@robturner7024 I will let you know about my suffering when it happens. 😄🙏🏿

[@robturner7024]

@@elenoraxelson9678 unless you have transcended thinking , you’re suffering .

[@jml2683]

Beautiful and inspiring conversation. Andre, what a gift you are.

[@23Lunardlian]

Charles is a balm for my hurting soul.❤

[@jerrymarnon41]

❤❤❤❤

[@marymanju4757]

you are a blessing in all the craziness we are witnessing . Mahalo Charles Eisenstein

[@heavencrownwhitelilies9599]

I knew he was out there! The brilliant brother knowing, writing and sharing of the more beautiful world. We are all blessed to be made aware of Charles. Bravo brother! Thank you for achieving your part on beautiful Mother Gaia!

[@ginalibrizzi5204]

The first time I listened to Charles Eisenstein, I felt a deep shift within me. My heart opened a little more, and I dared to hope and dream again. I love everything he has to say and the movement he has created. During this podcast, I felt that the exchange between the two of you was so natural and flowing; the ideas attained a new level of power. It was a gift to witness how together, your being-ness generated a new, healing energy. I’ll be coming back to it often, and Andre, you have a new subscriber ❤

[@RangiJackson]

This is the most beautiful message for humanity. Thank you so much. Surely, Peace is what we are all striving for. A leader is an Avatar of the Collective. Let's pray for a leader who will reflect what society is longing to be, to have and I pray that is Love and Peace. We have had enough of the pain and suffering. Let's give back to the gift of life. Blessings and Gratitude

[@ethereal4735]

i love charles so much, so glad to see him here

[@TheCreate21]

Love what host is contributing and holding and leading space-Ty.

[@kateballenden7490]

I cried from my Soul while listening to this conversation between you two beautiful men rooted in love, thank you. Charles you have offered sense and hope, especially over the last nearly 4 years, when the insanity escalated; your wisdom is seeded in belonging and fruits in recaprocity, a reminder of our true nature in a sensible, mythological, universal language, I hear you from my bones. Katherine, Johannesburg South Africa.

[@amandaholley8717]

Thank you … what a great discussion … changing the world from the heart and Charles is supporting Kennedy … that’s history remaking … so much here to be grateful for at many levels and of course that includes the support I feel at a personal level too. Profound. THANK YOU FOR COMING! 💕🐉💕🐉💕

[@therealmizzjay]

I say this all the time but man this was my fav episode by far! I will come back to listen time and time again because there were so many gems! 💎Charles is so humble and relatable! Humanity needs more minds like this! Loved his take on redemption and the beauty in the collective! When he said “the heart knows” mannnn this resonated with me so much! He’s brilliant and I believe the most beautiful earth is unfolding one kind heart at a time ! Can’t wait to read his books and continue following his impact in the world - it’s so very needed so thank you BOTH for blessing us with this convo! So much love and light to you all ! 🫶🏽❤️✨

[@rustynailiz63]

no doubt ! I've known Charles since he was my professor in college and the first day I was in class my life literally changed, as his perspective on the world was so unique and nothing like I had ever heard in my 20 years of life. It was so powerful and to this day I love hearing anything, everything he says. You will get nothing but GEMS if you go through all his work, I promise you that. Good luck !

[@dusty-lynnbristol519]

Beautiful human ❤️

[@brigittepuls4960]

Ghee, Charles has an incredible ability to put into CLEAR sentences what I can sometimes only intuit... And there are real gems, beautiful syntheses and new insights for me... Brilliant that his outspoken non dualistic stance is finding its way into politics.

[@Phoeagdor]

What a fantastic jigsaw piece. From the very small to the completely large, both touching in circle, all encompassing in and for all times.

[@lynnejaffe3408]

Love the comments on RFK Jr! I do my best to convey this about the man. People as still so trapped in the miasma of the outdated political discourse. For me, supporting Bobby is not so much a :political action, but far more a social action. Thank you, Charles for riding posse with him! It will surely make a huge difference in how this all goes. Much gratitude and big love from NC!

[@margaret539]

I'm honored to have spent some time years ago with Charles. His words are worth their weight in gold. And yes, the time of separation is over. How we connect or RE-turn to each other is up to us, moment by moment, conversation by conversation, for as long as it takes. It's why we're here on earth now. We were born for this.

[@IndiaMayorga]

Wow I’ve been really sad about the world events and feeling my heart ache for the collective and the words expressed here reminded me of this long journey and sacredness of life. To keep calling the tribe and the collective to keep showing us the true path towards peace within and without. Thank you both !!! May we be those good ancestors we prayed for 🙏🏽

[@KevinMay222]

so many gems in here. I've been in love with Charles's work since 2010, and I'm so happy more people are receiving his messages

[@michelet2312]

So many thank-yous for saying all I feel as it gives me community with you and others watching.

[@idabergmann5270]

charles eisenstein is a wise man. i'm reading his climate book at the moment and it's amazing. what i love most about him and what impresses me the deepest is his compassion (see his (re)action to *the mother who was mean to her child) because that is the most important thing. he lives non-judgement and we all know how easy it is to believe that we need to judge (*). thank you both!

[@codydecker3832]

Wow. That small act of humanity on the playground is a template to a new world in and if itself. You could unpack of the merits of that story for hours ❤

[@user-qg2je9ld2c]

Each and every word was Pure Magic This world is here now & truly shall expand thanks to beautiful souls , conversations and actions Thank You

[@ssmith70s]

I love Charles with my very soul. He truly speaks to those of us who have been disenfranchised by both political parties and by most mainstream movements. As someone who has always been loosely associated with the Left, he gives me hope that we can still salvage something from a movement that in the U.S. has become very authoritarian, corporate and downright mean-spirited. Many kudos to him (and to RFK Jr, whom I'm also supporting!).

[@lisacaprio6302]

To desire a thing, state, being, is to already have it. A better world can be sensed because it does exist already. Each person has to bring it forth in their own reality. Then collectively it manifests for the whole to “see”

[@danielakurz3736]

In the last half year so much mindblowing is happen to me. Before it starts I feel all the pain in the world. Instinctly I feel all the lies and the darkness. Thank you for these words. This is what they fear. The universe is in power and good souls are blessed to be a hero. No body knows it, but it is happen.

[@robynndeedat]

Wow… so much resonated… like really hit at heart level: The importance of anger and how it can be transmuted to shift experience and the secret ally in EVERYONE (even the ‘bad guys’) I feel an instant softening to those currently in my experience who I see as ‘enemy’ ❤️ Thank you - this was super valuable!

[@danielakurz3736]

I love your words❤ this is how high sensitive people think. 1% of humanity can be a hero. There is no applause and our ego is not touched by it...but it doesn't matter to us either. It is an honor to receive this opportunity from the greatest center of being. I was felt, it's a feeling that makes everything else insignificant. There is no expression for it, it breaks the chains of everything you thought possible... if you could even begin to understand what I mean, all my wages would be paid

[@bodhimartina6985]

Compassion resolves so much, we sure have to watch our own judgement.

[@23bramble]

Well said , the ego is to reactive.

[@kerrywynn1949]

The best talk I have heard from you so far Charles. Thank you. 🦋

[@TheCreate21]

I love the comment the body knows-This and this moments of me cement within-have believed for a long time we are each here for our child inside and the children who will come-yes it will take awhile but we are part of this now.

[@hggirl]

Amazing podcast. I hung on every word. You are unstoppable change makers of the highest good.

[@thetaeater]

Omg! I have read every one of Charles's books. I had been emmersed in Vedanta and Taoist philosophy for a long time but his work really connects these concepts to our modern societal situation.

[@thetaeater]

He is picking up where Erich Fromm left off!

[@ingehanson]

That is the beauty of Mr. Eisenstein. He connects the spiritual to the her and now. I loved it when he mentioned that many who always talk about ascending to the 4th or 5th level often leave the rest behind and are separating themselves as superior. Charles did not say that but there are those in the spiritual sphere who say that they never watch the news that they don't want to be negatively affected. They want to remain constantly in the vibration of love. But that then becomes separative again and "superior"

[@antonyliberopoulos933]

Thank you Charles for offering us beautiful words and insights. Thank you Andre for your wonderful work.

[@larsstougaard7097]

Great talk

[@bodhimartina6985]

I am so happy to hear him say that "we really haven't made any progress." We have been taught to believe if we can fly to the moon, we have advanced superiority. The true progress is how deeply can we love, be open and vulnerable to love. Jesus brought this message 2000 years ago. Buddha brought stillness of the mind message 2500 years ago. All we have to do is note what we are seeing with our own eyes, or feeling in our own hearts to know we still have as much to learn, so much to surrender.

[@Higherlovemeditations]

Please, more conversations between the two of you! This was a very moving, compelling and highly evolved conversation, down to earth and beautifully poetic and true! I so appreciate the both of you Thankyou!!❤

[@tinamarie1111]

This is gold

[@R0CK0Nbaby]

"When you choose something, you're also choosing everything that's in the way." MINDBLOWN. That one really hit. This whole talk really hit. This podcast channel is just too incredible. Episode after episode is just pure gold, every time. I can't thank you André and your epic guests enough! Seriously the Know Thyself podcast is the best thing that's ever happened

[@safulgence]

Outstanding. Thank you so much for introducing me to this incredible beautiful human's perspective.

[@annalizavos4775]

Wholeheartedly in appreciation for this message. ❤

[@dev77712]

Thank you Charles for sharing your message with us all! Great interview Andre!

[@top-chess-memes]

Thank you from the bottom of my heart 🙏

[@safarwisby8073]

Love to hear the wise connective tissues of your insightfulness …thankyou🙏✨🙏

[@wepartatdeathmusic7611]

So good. Thank you very much for this conversation. Very informative! 😊

[@katsyogamindenergybody]

I love Louis Howes and have admired his true masculine nature which is authentic, compassionate, kind, and inspiring. Thank you both!

[@allonesame6467]

Suburbia. I have nurtured gardens around our little 1/4 acre of diverse communities of plants and wildlife, a forest edge surrounds our home: a sanctuary. All are welcome. As I was planting a rose bush today, I heard the army recruits in the office park behind the forest edge, the sneaker-feet jogging and the hero voices boasting "sound off, 1,2!" For a moment I felt and recognized the pain of separation. If only they could pick up a trowel, feel and smell the earth and care for it. That would be a great day!

[@aplik881]

What resonates with me is the shift of culture, of story which emerging now in a tangible way. Readying the field, so precised, in every little action and thought and response to emotions. And most of all, i desire too to keep enhancing seeing the Divine in all, partner (haha), situations, circonstances.. Bless you all, i love this conversation. 🎆

[@BetteH]

Everything resonated.. Both of you are extraordinary gifts..

[@summersunriseyoga]

🥰so nice to see Aldous Massie’s cartoon in the into to this podcast! It’s already a vibe 🎧

[@spiritualmidwifejessbrowning]

Beautiful conversation. Thank you! 🙏🏻

[@luluwebdesign7854]

Thank you for this beautiful & inspiring conversation.

[@gvibes33]

Mahalo, thank you for this masterpiece ❤

[@barbarawedan6068]

What a beautiful space to converse and contemplate ❤

[@gemmacario5300]

So yes!!! Thank you 🙏🏽

[@scathach2010]

This was an amazing conversation. Had to pause this many times to write the gems down. Thank you.

[@janeks69]

Very deep speech and brilliant thoughts

[@ashiarokiam2716]

I totally resonate with what is being said....❤

[@weareskywearesea]

i didn't start yet listening but writing first a comment because I know it's gonna be one of your best episodes. thank you both for the great work you are doing for the humankind. much gratitude!

[@user-wq6dy5gz8v]

Thank you for this video with incredible messages.

[@FarzadDiba]

This was a great one. Thank you Andre. Thank you Charles

[@kathrynwells5936]

Wow. His construct affirms a theme in my mind. The western world is focused on the looming spechter of AI now without realizing how wounded we are FIM the industrial age. Terrific interview

[@MendeMaria-ej8bf]

Yes, this conversation is encouraging. Thank you.

[@joliabags]

Very uplifting conversation, thanks 😊

[@Technicolor_granola]

I follow Charles and his work as much as I possibly can, and this conversation is now one of my favorites. I’m also so thankful he led me to your podcast André. From one kindred spirit to the next, well done brother. You two brought forth some beautiful and ripe moments of wisdom. Something about this talk just really landed. ❤

[@jjuniper274]

My small contribution is molding a strong family to help us through traumas that may happen, and heal those that have. Branching that family out to friends and extended groups. I only created three children, but as a matriarch, I need to establish love as our driving force for good. It's not much, but it helps.

[@margarethurley4904]

Great guest will be tuning in to his message 🙏

[@caroleschaefer2203]

The world we live in is run by our ego God of easy answers and opposition. We take the easy way out and seek for the lesser god of addictive behaviors instead of rising to higher consciousness Thank you for this wonderful interview of truth

[@thebibafrequency]

Excellent Interview 🎉

[@user-iu5sz2oj6f]

I've been feeling for months, even years, that I am slowly going crazy. That I am struggling more and more to see the world around me in the normal accepted way; the way that allows us to get up and go to work, to feed ourselves, to engage in social events, etc. I constantly feel that I am on a hallucinogenic drug and that everything looks weird and seems peculiar. Listening to Charles describe the journey to "the bottom" and the return journey that is before us made a light go on. I've been feeling this way since I discovered Charles. His story about the parent in the park was instantly familiar. I'm finding that I see people and react to people differently than I did pre-Charles. I give everyone the benefit of the doubt now. My first reaction to people is empathy whenever possible because it seems reasonable to assume that they cannot have endured life for as long as they have without being bruised, battered, confused, brainwashed, dragged into a story (of separation), or violated on many levels. Thank you both for doing what you do. I don't mind going crazy. Someone in a movie once said "crazy" is iust an acute perception of the world. I feel like I am seeing the world and the people in it in a more clear and accurate way now. Things have gotten way out of control, and everybody is acting like it's "normal". War is not normal. The war in Ukraine is particularly insane. Why are we acting as if it's normal? Our political process is a circus. Junior has no chance, yet somehow I believe Charles when he says Junior could win. It seems like we are a long ways from electing a "Junior" to be our leader, but maybe things are moving more quickly than I realize. My wife and I are rooting for Junior and doing everything we can to convince people to get educated about what he stands for and get past the character assassination by the media. Praise the Gods for this insanity. I shall embrace it and believe that I am in the right place, at the right time, with the right gifts, and the knowledge of what to do. Thank you, again, for the work that you both are doing and for making the world a better place. If you need to hear some quality music to get a break from the madness, join me for The Live Jive Show every Mon, Weds, and Friday 9 to Noon on Jive Radio (jiveradio.org). I sign off every show with "...until then, remember to keep The Jive alive, and let's all hope for the more beautiful world our hearts know is possible". Peace of the spirit, Brothers - dj jim

[@hannah-108]

This was the most transformative and powerful episode I’ve seen so far ♥️ Infinitely grateful for you both!

[@barbaracbelger]

Absolutely love this conversation and its creating and unfolding ❤ deep gratitude ❤ A'ho

[@athinaeve4666]

I've recently come across Charles Eisenstein and Etienne de la Boetie2 and am so appreciative for their insight. When the student is ready the teachers appear 🙂

[@sarahwoolley7798]

Wow, again you put out an amazing, informative, inspiring podcast. Charles is new to me. Thank you! 🕊️💖🕊️

[@vk7437]

This is beautiful. Thank you both

[@ejames3349]

"The mind feeds the heart; the heart makes the right choice."

[@NikodemisvanRensburg23]

Beautiful, thank you!

[@LightworkingWanderer]

26:39 - Me too. And it's hard to relate this to others. Thank you for being able to articulate what you feel and know so well. 🙇🏼‍♂

[@janicesmith9987]

Love

[@tylerzahradnik]

Love Charles ♥

[@danielakurz3736]

Es ist genau das was er sagt❤ es war immer da, es wird immer sein, aber wichtig ist der Moment jetzt. Wir leben in der größten und wundervollsten Geschichte für die beste Menschheit, in Verundenheit mit dem Universum, der Natur und allem Leben, die jeder einzelne von uns erreicht. Das beste Selbst zu sein, die Essenz befindet sich in jedem von uns. Das Universum verlangt nichts, was nicht möglich ist. Deine Belohnung ist größer und erfüllender, als das was bereits bekannt ist. Es passiert, sofort. Ich sehe die Antworten. Ich tanze diesen wunderbaren Tanz meiner Gefühle mit dem Universum. Bitte vertraut unaufhörlich dem Prozess, vertraut euch, ohne Hass, mit Liebe, Verständnis und Vergebung. Seid Dankbar. Wir haben das umwerfendste Geschenk, das Leben und alle Möglichkeiten💞🗝💫

[@therealrayster]

I dont know your guest personally, but it always felt so familiar. Loving it

[@gina2641]

Best episode yet. These are the convos I want to be apart of ❤

[@KrystelVanEngeland]

🙏❤ THANK YOU

[@debbiewilliams397]

Love, enjoyed the whole conversation every question and answer just beautifully explained. Love will prevail life is so exciting ❤❤❤ thank you both🙏🙏🙏

[@georgiasumner5375]

There’s many insightful and hopeful points here. Thanks to both of you… I’ve found that as this year has unfolded, I have less and less interest in the stories we’re given - everywhere (books, film, science etc.,etc.). I have some unique experiences and would love to be a ‘storyteller’, describing that ‘more beautiful world’… ❤🦋🌱🌈❤️

[@karenford5265]

Love this interview. What he says is similar to Paul Selig's channeled writing...I know who I am, I know what I am, I know how I serve, I am free. An affirmation of trust in divine synchronicity.

[@AbuelaDilla]

That we each have eyes to see and a willing heart....

[@SuperLammens]

You man feel like my spiritual brothers. Ivlove you both and aubry Marcus ❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤

[@talithabutterfield1194]

I love listening to Charles wisdom and have read many of his books. He is truly a light in the darkness. I wish he were running for President though I'm not sure he'd really like that. He so clearly articulates what's needed from us to help expand compassion for all on earth. Where I differ a little from him is in what possibilities lie ahead about what we as a species, working together can accomplish. I think we all are programmed by our culture, upbringing, religion, etc. but we are also uncovering more every day about how our beliefs, assumptions, etc. are not the whole truth. Just in the health field the work of RJ Spina who healed himself of chest down paralysis in 100 days and is teaching others to do the same is beginning to change the whole health care (if you can call it that) system, or Dr. Joe Dispenza's work where many people are healing themselves of all kinds of permanent illnesses. And so many people who have had Near Death Experiences who were dead for 20 to 40 minutes and came back healed and with no brain damage. So I think we really don't know the extent of what's possible or how quickly things can change or be transformed because of being told it takes such and such an amount of time. Our beliefs are powerful but being open minded can be even more powerful. As in quantum physics we live in a world of possibilities. So let's see those possibilities as beyond what we can think.

[@AroundMoney01]

Important takeaways; Patience and Faith, Healing from Setbacks, Embracing Despair, Acceptance of Limitations, Acceptance of Limitations, Divine Timing, Choosing Your Reality, Reunion with Humanity, Slow, Generous Choices, Be Grateful, and Reciprocity.

[@kristinewest1993]

I wanted to say this talking about slowing down and everything. I learned one thing from my family member. That's a United States navy seal. And he says slow is smooth and smooth as fast. And I believe that when you slow down and do things like that, it all works faster.

[@Phoeagdor]

Gurdjieff's - awakening one another. For sleep/giving up comes to us all. Lynne McTaggart's - the power of 8. Great cast fisherman, namely: we're all fishermen, fisherwomen, fishergobetween - the fish/the net/the person. You've won Charlie, a life time supply of ......... Shine on the Charles man.

[@nomigomezmolina2806]

Buddha,Christ and we believe that others not mentioned seem to have been able to hold the stories sometimes with but often without a committed Sangha. Maybe Sangha, Buddha and Dharma interare? Separation like time and space are distractions, dilutions, three dimensional constructs necessary but not the whole story. The connectedness of the all, as quanta denotes negates what we think that we know. Understanding might mean that there has always been that which cannot be known, that from which all is manifested. The singularity, the event horizon, that which is within everything that is. Yeah, you really got me, you got me going now and in a most interesting way! Nomi 💖🙏

[@lovelifeinanewway]

Totally engaged ....I'm in the time of my life...Failing is not and option😢🎉❤

[@TheCreate21]

So clear-so real-much appreciation because of humidity and 101 temp - I am here listening to this-as I also have been becoming more aware of my own softer not open changes to my interpretation-examples he gives are powerful. Have felt all he talks about around despair w/losses, but in all of this I hold my own boundaries and they have come out clear understanding softness and strong clear boundaries-around anger. Also Understanding …who am I now? Yes love looking for our child. May I be open to the inner guide and outer guide. ❤️❤️ to both of you-and all here.

[@AbuelaDilla]

In David Hawkins book", power vs force", he postulates that as we make life sustaining choices we do raise our vibration. Truth is power. We can know truth; we just have to use compassionate mind. I recently read that in some native cultures wealth is measured in how much you give away. Isn't that beautiful?

[@lillian2244]

I am grateful for the wisdom shared in this conversation🙏🏼 much love to you both! Lillian (Sanity Project Member😉)