That 8/7 argent horse rider killing Ragnaros was very funny, haha
@TheFireflyGrave8 жыл бұрын
Don't worry loves, the insect is here.
@Magzillas8 жыл бұрын
"Well played" -Warrior 2016
@Jeagall8 жыл бұрын
"Well played" -Shaman 2k16 "Well SMOrced" Hunter, some time ago :)
@WAMProducties8 жыл бұрын
I'm really loving these videos lately. Actually announcing the deck he is playing in the title is much better than just saying "Priest Standard"
@ZergrushEddie8 жыл бұрын
Jens, I love the addition of the "deck changes" and reasoning. It gives a nice little look into Trump's inner thinking, which is lacking on KZbin (just the nature of not letting things be so free forming as a stream, give and take of clean editing) as well as making it a lot easier to see any changes and direction the decks are going.
@dpalmerama8 жыл бұрын
Trump is missing a vital card. The 12 health potion has saved me many times against pirate warrior. I also run a holy nova. 2 cleric's are unnecessary.
@zevirem93018 жыл бұрын
This^ There is 0 reason to have those clerics in your deck. They are far to slow and will rarely get you cards anymore.
@FelixTheCat-qt6nf8 жыл бұрын
Glen Gilliland yea and there's 1 mans 3/2s running agound cleric is poop
@jerrywizliz8 жыл бұрын
Dan Palmer Well the fact that trump does this for a living does justify his choice of cards, he said this deck is less greedy than the standard dragon priest.
@zakr76318 жыл бұрын
No it just means he's popular not good, Trump is probably one of least skilled streamers atm.
@1lamafarmer8 жыл бұрын
The fact that he's a public figure in the HS community does justify people criticising him. Cleric is a pure greed card, and one that is really not useful in this meta or that deck type, so I don't really know what your point is.
@Xirbtt8 жыл бұрын
Pirate decks have destroyed this game. Aggro. Why.
@thecoolestjedi8 жыл бұрын
Xirbtt better than midrange shaman
@Maurice0406848 жыл бұрын
Just play enough Anti-Aggro for the early game. There are enough cards. And if there aren't enough good Anti-Aggro-Cards for you, then just play Wild, where Chow, Healbot and Belcher still exist.
@RalphACastilleja8 жыл бұрын
Maurice040684 but what about jade Druid
@AnglosArentHuman8 жыл бұрын
Naenlor pirate player confirmed? LUL
@zacgerhardt50198 жыл бұрын
My Reno lock shits on aggro decks.
@Warclam8 жыл бұрын
No "Well Played" back to the Krul-lock? Rude.
@JC-tb1pm8 жыл бұрын
i like all your videos amaz 😍😍😍
@dysonsphere23948 жыл бұрын
*Trump lol
@Лёва17см8 жыл бұрын
AMAZ????????????
@Лёва17см8 жыл бұрын
Jason aha)) dd
@SuperRaids138 жыл бұрын
Jason racist?
@d_gs8 жыл бұрын
Lol, this is definitely Amaz.
@CheesyCheeser188 жыл бұрын
I don't play them personally and I'm glad there's a proper aggro deck in the meta and they're absolutely needed for the health of the game...but some of the things this Pirate deck can pull off seem to be overstepping the mark a bit
@onlyicedgarrett77918 жыл бұрын
Matt Webber We had proper Aggro decks in Karazhan, they were Zoo and Hunter. And they were both a very different experience than turn 1 better than Muster for Battle into high attack weapons into your face into you're dead.
@CheesyCheeser188 жыл бұрын
Garrett Seno I'd argue that Zoo is a deck that fights for overwhelming board control before it pushes for face and Hunter was midrange, Face Hunter has been pretty much buried for quite a while now. The 'better than muster' thing I agree with, it's what I mean when I say some things the deck can do are overstepping the mark
@rastrisfrustreslosgomez5448 жыл бұрын
Exactly, tough you can build aggro warlock, zoo is its own thing
@senecaburke33108 жыл бұрын
How is secret hunter not aggro?..
@midn85888 жыл бұрын
Friendly bartender was given a good rating by you for EXACTLY this type of meta.
@JonnyTHM4298 жыл бұрын
No this meta has a lot of reno control decks which bartender would be useless against. If they didn't exist *then* it would be the meta he was talking about.
@midn85888 жыл бұрын
JonnyTHM429 This meta has a massive amount of aggro decks.
@JonnyTHM4298 жыл бұрын
And a massive amount of control as well. Reno is everywhere.
@midn85888 жыл бұрын
JonnyTHM429 I guess, but aggro hurts most right now.
@dusty86078 жыл бұрын
Everyone's either priest, buffadin or dragon priest nowadays and I'm just slowly crawling up the ladder with my jade shaman.
@Elazul2k8 жыл бұрын
Been playing a version of mid shaman lately myself. Does pretty good. I removed the flame elementals and Thunderbluffs for Waterspeakers and Lotus Agents.
@michaelzhao35378 жыл бұрын
Elazul2k I've tried lotus agents and they haven't worked out, so I put back in the fire eles
@dusty86078 жыл бұрын
Drop fire and lotus agents. The best way to play jade shaman is jade your board full and bloodlust. Fire is too slow and lotus is too inconsistent.
@oscarmarcantonio68998 жыл бұрын
im still using c'thun warrior man
@dusty86078 жыл бұрын
God bless you.
@GamerKriogenia8 жыл бұрын
Jens, you are on your best lately
@thomaswayne18528 жыл бұрын
Great job as usual, Jens. Your work is appreciated.
@mcpokeman8 жыл бұрын
Did that warrior just burn through 4 efficient taunts?
@blanksilver38518 жыл бұрын
McPokeman even sludge belcher wouldnt help there if he wouldnt be on wild :(
@nordmoe8 жыл бұрын
Love his "I'm the captain now" reference.
@moomaniac29328 жыл бұрын
I love you Trump! (Best editor also lol)
@magoatski8 жыл бұрын
Moomaniac Jens is triggered
@hughmungus21928 жыл бұрын
Ahh, I was looking for an excuse not to go to sleep yet.
@atem81018 жыл бұрын
I'm supposed to be playing game of war but this one player keeps kicking my ass
@Belv1n8 жыл бұрын
Is it TheLegend27?
@atem81018 жыл бұрын
Cyclone It's the TheLegend27
@SheepsCanPlayGuitar8 жыл бұрын
Dolan Duk Who is the Legend27??
@atem81018 жыл бұрын
Iani People say he can hurl a boulder further than a catapult
@Growltank2338 жыл бұрын
18:37 You either die a priest, or you play long enough to see yourself become the jade in constructed
@lueroifan128 жыл бұрын
When I build an anti-aggro deck it seems like there is never a pirate warrior
@BPTVSleepyPanda8 жыл бұрын
Even with perfect draws/openers most anti aggro decks still don't have an above 50% winrate vs pirate warrior. Think about it: A deck that is supposed to hard counter aggro still loses to aggro 50% of the time. Aggro needs to die! We need 1 mana aoe spells!
@lueroifan128 жыл бұрын
PlayfulPanda true,
@KaizokuKevin8 жыл бұрын
How mad is that jade shaman lol
@NataliaNeeSama8 жыл бұрын
And what that teaches us? Pirate Warrior is what is removing the fun of this expansion meta. Good job Blizz for making another expansion that could be fun into a Face Fest. Nice design choices!
@holyflygon8 жыл бұрын
trump should of grabbed the 4 mana 3/3 taunt so much better then taking free damage for the warrior
@1who4me8 жыл бұрын
I like the silent film-esque transistions
@TJGibson08 жыл бұрын
That Pirate deck did 8.8 damage per turn. GG Meta
@LlorracTN8 жыл бұрын
Jade priest, new meta
@JustStef0188 жыл бұрын
What is the music when he starts to play Priest at around 7:45? Thanks in advance.
@FatControllerOfficial Жыл бұрын
I'm still wondering years later
@Kefka20108 жыл бұрын
Jens, loving your new format. Very funny stuff with the witty comments.
@lc_78858 жыл бұрын
Every single expansion there's one aggro deck that just takes over everything. Honestly, though, even with pirate warrior, I think this is one of the more balanced expansions. I think it opened the door for a few new archetypes.
@FelixTheCat-qt6nf8 жыл бұрын
Lia Cueto I'm just waiting for elder scrolls legends to come out on iPhone lol c ya hearth stone
@onlyicedgarrett77918 жыл бұрын
Lia Cueto Mark my words, if Patches wasn't printed, this would be an amazingly fun meta.
@Jamick98Geass8 жыл бұрын
This video is a shinning example of why Pirate Warrior is beyond ridiculous. Even if you draw the best possible anti-aggro hand, thy can not only deal with it, but then kill you on turn 5. Even IF they're unfortunate enough to open with Patches, they can still just run you down with Buccaneer, charge creatures and taunt cards that get insane discounts.
@NerdySatyr8 жыл бұрын
Good lord, that last game was fucking ridiculous.
@imburning998 жыл бұрын
hey jens, great work as usual, but i found the music to be a bit too hyped up in this one lol. anyways, machstn guten job!
@BlankKnight8 жыл бұрын
"Did i just lose when drawing both my wyrmrest agents and both my twlight guardians" "is this what despair feels like?"
@TheGreatwhitellama8 жыл бұрын
Trump, seriously consider running potion of healing. It's basically a reno heal on turn 4 since you often reno around 15 Hp anyway. The downside is you don't get a body with it, but it's irrelevant anyway since all your opponent cares about is hitting your face. I thought it was a bad card to begin with, but randomly getting 2 golden copies of it in packs persuaded me to try it.
@Cortes128 жыл бұрын
Wow that moment when argent horse rider hit like a truck
@Merok238 жыл бұрын
He picked salty dog (Aya paw) before Azure drake or Totem Golem?
@icycheesecake55198 жыл бұрын
Honestly I drew all my taunts as dragon priest and the pirate still got through. Tis crazy.
@LostOdyssey918 жыл бұрын
Damn this Pirate warrior deck is crazy..."Fun and interactive" *Laughs in Ben Brode*
@michaelsnow35368 жыл бұрын
Feels hypocritical, seeing pirate warriors using Ooze...
@MultiDisasters8 жыл бұрын
New music is Great, keep it up Jens :)
@dokonaut8 жыл бұрын
In that last game, i believe on turn 5 you shouldnt have played azure, instead play twilight guardian since you dont have to worry about card draw vs pirate warrior for the most part. this is also fine since you already have a 6 drop (the book worm on one of his 3 attack minions) for the next turn. that play wouldve saved you some health overall due to the taunt, usually against agro decks, you just want to play for tempo. i think that last game was winnable.
@victorcalzadillasmorales68578 жыл бұрын
Trump. Which deck is best for paladin to climb ladder? this one you're playing, aggro murloc or control nzoth? Pls I love pala but all of those seem to be pretty good!
@JoViljarHaugstulen8 жыл бұрын
Why not use the 4 mana heal 12 spell as a kind of Reno just for 4 mana and without the body... I wonder
@ModrunOfficial8 жыл бұрын
oh right makes sense ill try that
@JoViljarHaugstulen8 жыл бұрын
MoDRun Should be good against pirate warrior if you are able to deal with the early game minions just to heal out of range of the weapon damage
@kai-xuanyao46668 жыл бұрын
That card is quite nice. Some reno priest run that. No place for that in a dragon deck though.
@ProxCyde8 жыл бұрын
Most of the time, _if_ you get to the point where you could actually spend your whole turn healing for 4 mana, you'd already be winning. Other times, I think it's just too slow. Like their 5 turn wins. Spending your whole turn only healing and not dealing with their board they'd easily chip that back off. *Edit:* I am trying out _one_ Potion of Madness atm. Just to up my chance against them in the early game. Grabbing Southsea Deckhand, running it into Small-Time Buccaneer ideally.
@JoViljarHaugstulen8 жыл бұрын
Neeken The warrior often spends 5 mana swinging arcanite reaper to face dealing 10 damage (or more with upgrade and such) healing for 12 for 4 mana basically negates most of that for 1 less mana... Yes you need to deal with the minions but if you don't have any healing after that you might just get punched to death by big weapons (weapon removal also helps of course though they always get in at least 1 hit)
@traeumerich8 жыл бұрын
20:45 Must have thought that the bookworm is a stampeding kodo with aiming !?
@Brigis148 жыл бұрын
same thing happened to me vs pirate warrior..dead on turn 5..had reno in hand
@xJoeKing8 жыл бұрын
Reno into sadness lol!
@BlercNet8 жыл бұрын
Silly Question Guys, but why my Deck tracker gets stuck on the first deck I play each day? If I switch to another one it still overlays the old one, and i get a warning: Cards are missing on my top left corner. Any hints? Thanks in advance
@SkyreeXScalabar8 жыл бұрын
Misplay at 20:50 using book worm on the 3/3 instead of brann would save corruptor 1 health
@SkyreeXScalabar8 жыл бұрын
Trump realizes this later on lol it did lose him some tempo
@doothewhat8 жыл бұрын
Just notice you're using WOW music. Makes me super nostalgic.
@JoshSweetvale8 жыл бұрын
Brandon Doo Fire Festival
@nitzillastudio8 жыл бұрын
18:50 I wouldn't be able to resist the allure of a golden Azure Drake. I own six Azure Drakes but no golden ones.
@canichangemynamenowawyeah46218 жыл бұрын
What music plays in the outro? It's so good
@reallyreallyreallylongname62688 жыл бұрын
Wait how did the Fight Promoter effect trigger at 3:21? His highest attack minion that he controlled was only a 5/6?
@SugarsMcnuts8 жыл бұрын
Fight Promoter's Battlecry is based upon Health, not attack.
@reallyreallyreallylongname62688 жыл бұрын
Collin Doran oh. im dumb. thanks
@PapaBear8168 жыл бұрын
I haven't even started this expansion... not with so many aggro pirate warriors, I'm waiting for the meta to settle away from it before I'll even though the game anymore.
@mightybatillo8 жыл бұрын
OneBigBugga soo you will wait for the new adventure?
@PapaBear8168 жыл бұрын
Waiting for the meta to settle and the Pirate deck to thin out as decks come out to counter it more and people get more cards and can make more.
@BPTVSleepyPanda8 жыл бұрын
Good idea! Aaaand... how would you counter a deck that still manages a 50% winrate vs its hard counters?
@dancer22348 жыл бұрын
Pirate warrior isn't even good? It punishes bad decks, that's all..
@PapaBear8168 жыл бұрын
The meta hasn't settled yet. People are still trying out combos and new cards. It tends to take awhile for things to level out. Like Aggro Shaman when it first came out last time, though it hung around it was pushed mostly out of the meta in favor of midrange Shaman which was better. That I could deal with. Only reason people are playing Aggro pirate warrior is because of how easy it is to play and how cheap it is to play, as what happens with ALL new expansions. From Hunter, to Shaman and now Warrior, as people get more cards, can make more decks, and people find new combos, Pirate warrior will start to fade as do most aggro decks... if it doesn't, Blizzard will lower the nerf hammer on it as they have with ALL Aggro decks that didn't settle out.
@kiloneie8 жыл бұрын
My dragon priest is 50% at least v pirate warrior i think, the rest is way high. Pretty sure Dragon Priest is a way to rank up, since i got rank 10 in like 5 hours, only trouble was pirate warrior, who i still won more than i lost. The high value cards + 4 taunts do beat pirate warrior, but gotta draw em taunts else RIP.
@Bibzuda78 жыл бұрын
Deck gets absolutely steamrolled by any form of Midrange Shaman
@DASCSWEM8 жыл бұрын
What Krul should have been: 8 mana 7/8, Battlecry: If your deck contains no duplicates, summon all minion that you discarded this game/all demons that died this game Or maybe even - , summon a copy if all demons in your deck. Idk tho
@Despond8 жыл бұрын
It's just stupid when you even curve nearly perfectly with multiple taunts backed up by PW and hero power heals and they still mow you down in 5-6 turns. That's why I feel madness potions are needed to stand a chance. That last game he had so many outs with spells and charges regardless of your taunts.
@0biggaj08 жыл бұрын
Is that background music from the the stream ?
@supernautistaken8 жыл бұрын
what was the music in the background of the first match?
@OddMobileWatcher8 жыл бұрын
This isn't important, but isn't it strange that Jade lighting, a MONK spell, is a shaman spell in hearthstone? Or is it because it's no longer "crackling jade lighting" it's a completely different thing? What's next? Fists of fury for warrior?
@tigermeny8 жыл бұрын
at 20:40 wasnt it better to bookworm the 3/3 and kill brann with corrupter saving 1 dmg?
@tigermeny8 жыл бұрын
Ah chat told him later my bad :P
@masterknight1378 жыл бұрын
What is the outro music called?
@marcelbeyer31618 жыл бұрын
Lep1d its from World of Warcraft and is named after Arthas horse "invincible"
@masterknight1378 жыл бұрын
Cheers
@antiactive138 жыл бұрын
I'm very new to Hearthstone so can I just ask, what does the "8" underneath his name mean?
@Leo-es3fs8 жыл бұрын
Where can I find the song playing in the priest vs shaman part?
@YoXeV8 жыл бұрын
Renolock ! Tips against matchups, mulligan?
@Kaeridan8 жыл бұрын
No one is allowed to leave Greedsville, Trump. Bring back the Ysera, and while you're at it, include a Deathwing, Dragonlord in it.
@JoX12318 жыл бұрын
'is this what dispare feels like?' is me playing hearthstone.......sometimes.....
@TimoCruz1778 жыл бұрын
I think double cleric is too much and you're missing that "greater healing potion" it will save a lot of games for you
@Jewus198 жыл бұрын
turn 1 3/5 stats and a weapon... I look forward to the next expansion when every card gets renamed and receives +1+1 happy fun times.
@Achallon8 жыл бұрын
Hey guys I haven't played heartstone since standard and wild formats came out and learned priests were shit, since trump is playing this deck does that mean priests are good again?
@magoatski8 жыл бұрын
Achallon yes
@i5m1thy8 жыл бұрын
Amaz has been playing priest regardless through the seasons and has had a lot of fun with it. But yeah dragon priest is actually a fairly reliable anti-aggro deck right now. Not that it matters a whole lot against pirate warrior, as you can see in this video.
@SawedOffLaser8 жыл бұрын
Achallon Priest is in quite a good spot now. You will need the new cards, but that's to be expected.
@dingding123218 жыл бұрын
Drakonid OP ...erative
@TheBearjiro8 жыл бұрын
Replacement(s) for Wrathion?
@tj91098 жыл бұрын
Trump! You should take a look at the standalone The Witcher 3 Gwent game!
@ZOMG_MUSIC8 жыл бұрын
Well at least its not just me who can just get a line of fuck my ass games.
@Keepcalm-lovesports7 жыл бұрын
there seems to be a misconception that taunt is good against pirate warrior. it's NOT. AoE and freeze is the way to go, they have to loose their minions, because the only problems they have is draw and tempo loss. one taunt= pretty much one weapon charge
@ArcaneMage54k8 жыл бұрын
I don't mind pirate warrior I think it's really fun surviving the onslaught then watching them run out of steam and slowly withering away...
@NeroVingian408 жыл бұрын
Disturbed Monster if you can survive, though. T_T
@ArcaneMage54k8 жыл бұрын
Yeah that's sort of an issue isn't it.But oh well I play reno lock and mage so my chances are okay enough that I enjoy many "I choose death" every time.
@NeroVingian408 жыл бұрын
Disturbed Monster Yeah, either way, the duel will end at turn 6-7. Lol.
@ArcaneMage54k8 жыл бұрын
True that lmao.
@canichangemynamenowawyeah46218 жыл бұрын
I Liek the references in the card intros.
@henkky80598 жыл бұрын
You have a taunt vs pirates u play it. That drakonid was a big misplay instead of playing guardian.
@MrYomaaaan8 жыл бұрын
Honestly, Control Priest just eats up all the aggro/face decks on ladder, especially due to the new cards. Except for Jade Druid though, that much is just unwinnable.
@TenebrisOfChaos8 жыл бұрын
20:40 big missplay if he bookwormed the 3/3 instead of bran he could have 1 more health on corruptor
@DragonPanda48 жыл бұрын
Huh... That's actually really funny. Of all things, a mass spam of 1/1's and weapons broke the meta. Lol
@covetouscorvus8 жыл бұрын
Timothy Crowther wish they were just 1:1's...
@Maccelerate8 жыл бұрын
The audio in this video is a bit muffled.
@ToxicallyMasculinelol8 жыл бұрын
there is no reason to run power word shield in dragon priest. or northshire cleric. if you want to beat pirate warrior with dragon priest, you should be using defender of argus
@joshbrown65628 жыл бұрын
people hating on pirate warrior and I'm just sitting here fucking furious at constantly running into jade druids. it's like new c'thun. brainless bullshit
@Zivilin8 жыл бұрын
Michael Brown Haven't met a druid yet i couldn't beat with my jade totem deck.
@joshbrown65628 жыл бұрын
+Capricious Fox well I'm a fairly casual player and I'm not particularly good or anything but it's the first deck I've found noticibly frustrating. like I've ran into the same deck multiple times and they don't have to think at all just play cards on curve and win
@Watesoftheoasis8 жыл бұрын
That's literally the definition of hearthstone. At least Jade druid has more decisions to make than most of the other current decks.
@Zivilin8 жыл бұрын
Michael Brown I'm a casual player too. I.just find the jade cards really supplement my totem shaman quite well. I run blood lust as a finisher so the jade golems are good for board control and damage.
@NoeLPZC8 жыл бұрын
You just need to know the strengths of the deck you're playing and the weaknesses of the decks you're playing against. If you're running a midrange deck and run into a jade druid, hit the face as hard as you can. You need to win before it gets to the late game. Don't worry too much about favourable trades - by the time they get a stranglehold on the board you'll have your aoe plus some smaller minions to start over.
@98fofi8 жыл бұрын
Outro music plz
@paullewis5608 жыл бұрын
I run a Dragon Priest and have beaten Pirate Wars, you just need them to have bad draws lol
@ICHBinCOOLERalsJeman8 жыл бұрын
I need a trump match like in those old black and white movies, with short breaks with the dialog
@8uyy0u8 жыл бұрын
you should tech healing cards
@VirtualMarmalade8 жыл бұрын
What is Pirate Warrior's winrate? Like 80%?
@NeroVingian408 жыл бұрын
MARM pretty much.
@ahmeddan46788 жыл бұрын
guys whats does Reno Lock and tempo means, kinda noob here
@andrewyp67248 жыл бұрын
Ahmed Dan Reno Jackson is a League of Explorers adventure card. It heals you to full hp when you don't have any double cards in your deck(deck, not including hand). Reno lock is a Warlock deck that uses this card, putting only 1 card each. Tempo, you might just want to google it: 'hearthstone what is tempo'. Basically it's the flow of the game. As somebody else said it, HS is like tug of war. You and the opponent is fighting to take control. It's more than just board presence. Minions on board do help, but not always necessary if you have removals and could take control.
@ahmeddan46788 жыл бұрын
thank you bro for the info
@SapFeaRon8 жыл бұрын
more paladin pls ;)
@toxic_cowZ8 жыл бұрын
I don't understand why trump dumbed his entire hand of early game cards in the first priest game vs the aggro warrior.
@loneratwar47467 жыл бұрын
I like your other videos tho
@TheInverseable8 жыл бұрын
hahaha brode finally did it pirate warrior killed hearthstone
Trump is actually a super cool dude to watch. He gives us cringe players a home to go.
@Ohnonoki8 жыл бұрын
I don't think Cleric should be ran anymore lol.
@MrCmon1138 жыл бұрын
2 Wyrmrest, 2 Twilight Guardians - still loses to Face Pirates...
@Bhorius8 жыл бұрын
More like Greed Streets of Gadgetzan eh Mr. Trump?
@raybond52918 жыл бұрын
hope u doin f2p msg....i always enjoyed watchin thos f2ps
@raxosdude8 жыл бұрын
Your Soul shall be mine!
@NeroVingian408 жыл бұрын
This just confirmed Dragon Priest will absolutely lose against Pirate Warrior. So much for new Priest cards, Blizzard.
@NoeLPZC8 жыл бұрын
This didn't confirm anything. Trump is playing a crumby deck and doesn't even run the new Priest cards that would've saved him. Greater Healing Potion and Potion of Madness were designed to combat these hyper-aggressive decks.
@NeroVingian408 жыл бұрын
Greater Healing Potion is a no for me, too slow and you'll lose tempo. I've used Potion of Madness against Pirate Warrior and it works great. In my experience, Potion of Madness is a bad draw against any other decks that people play most right now.
@NoeLPZC8 жыл бұрын
M. Arbah Binamin I disagree. Losing tempo with GHP isn't usually an issue because the pirate deck starts to lose steam around there anyway. By that point your minions would've cleaned up theirs and they're just smashing you in the face with Arcanite Reaper. If they're not playing any more threats then it doesn't matter if you lose tempo - especially since you'll always win the late game. Regarding Potion of Madness, yeah I agree it definitely loses value with other match ups. But you still see Loot Hoarder's kicking around which are great to steal.