Garrote rogue, Demonhunter OTK, Quest Mague, Quest Hunter, Demon Seed Warlock and Owlock are the posterchilds of why people despised United In Stormwind 1 and 2. I'm a Legends of Runaterra player and I remember that people went to LoR during that first year in hordes because people was THAT SICK of Hearthstone's year of the wolf, then quitted once they released discover in bandle and a tier 1 deck in Azir/Irelia who attacked too often. Honestly, I think appealing to exclusively competitive players is what has killed MANY games back in the day, and while I think too random is not good for a game's health, you as a developer should make *the optimal play reactable* (Not confuse with interaction, you actually despise that considering how bad 6 mana Theotar is) to minimize frustrations. Both charge and *0 mana cards, specially spells, are NOT reactable;* at least Charge can be neutered by taunt but there's literal no counterplay to 0 mana outside value, which is why Mana cheating is broken.
@555Soupy5559 ай бұрын
they are starting to put "but no less than one" on a few things but it's a few years too late
@mrchundo9 ай бұрын
This is a really interesting write-up!
@saltkeeper449 ай бұрын
You mean the year of the Gryphon maybe? Because we are now in the year of the wolf and last year was of the Hydra
@lucascanetelara46259 ай бұрын
What's interactive about Theotar according to you? Because the effect it's purely one sided. You take the best card and give your opponent the worst card out of the offered, and your opponent has no say or influence in that. It's not that we hate interaction, but rather than the ways you interact with your opponent are very limited in a game where you can't play cards or take decisions during your opponent's turn (which MtG and LoR do)
@joaopc949 ай бұрын
@@lucascanetelara4625 Id guess the fact that they payed 6 mana for it? Considering of course that the 4/4 body may as well be nonexistent if they play it on turn 6 in todays Hearthstone ladder.
@OldWindmill9 ай бұрын
Just when I thought it was Chundover, we’re so back
@mrchundo9 ай бұрын
C TO THE H TO THE UN-DO
@lukieq129 ай бұрын
Honey, quick, new Chundo vid just dropped!!
@ImfrAfreak9 ай бұрын
We chundback*
@felipeandrades27599 ай бұрын
A Chundo Masterpiece to end the year on a high note
@mrchundo9 ай бұрын
: )
@lewst9 ай бұрын
Thaurisan was at 6 mana, so 4 more expensive than octobot. He was buffed to 5 for twist.
@mrchundo9 ай бұрын
Ohhhh right. I had it as 6 mana in the script but then I looked up the card and thought I misremembered
@tayxsl9 ай бұрын
Love to watch this deck/card essays you make, please keep doing them!
@mrchundo9 ай бұрын
Will do!
@jamesoconner55159 ай бұрын
First time viewer, this analytical look at hearthstone history was really fascinating, especially in a time when I had a break from it. I am now glad that I had, and that I watched this. Also, I have been sufficiently guilt tripped. Well played good sir, +1 Sub
@mrchundo9 ай бұрын
everything I do is to guilt trip
@PacceyBoi9 ай бұрын
That vicious syndicate quote is talking about the version of the deck with gadgetzan Auctioneers and a bunch of spells, not the field contact version
@mrchundo9 ай бұрын
That is true but it was also saying that the archetype didn’t have room to grow. I was being a little overly dramatic
@vector33669 ай бұрын
for what it's worth, I really like your channel and when I first saw it I knew that this was my favourte type of content and subbed
@mrchundo9 ай бұрын
I’m glad you found it!
@baloneyboy13429 ай бұрын
Just got back into hearthstone after 4 years a few weeks ago and I got recommended this video. I am now subbed and hope you pop off. This is a fantastic video.
@mrchundo9 ай бұрын
Thanks for the kind words! Have fun!
@Robocli9 ай бұрын
unironically got super excited when i saw this vid in my youtube feed WELCOME BACK CHUNDO 🔛🔝
@mrchundo9 ай бұрын
THANK YOU!
@whiterasputin11089 ай бұрын
A chundo's masterpiece the last day of the year :) So much love
@mrchundo9 ай бұрын
Thanks!
@duonggiabao57849 ай бұрын
Well back then in the tournament it was just a playground for Garrote Rogue, OTK Questline DH, Celestial Nature Druid (sometime Pirate Warrior and Mozaki Mage) and broooo that was a toxic meta I even have PTSD now
@kennethxu17895 ай бұрын
Garrote rogue is kinda back in wild. Toy boat is a lower cost field contact that works off of summons, so the deck is super reliant on drawing toy boat. Trickster is a 3 mana +2 spell damage minion that allows for the combo to exist. Shadow of demise plays a copy of the spell. The normal rogue draw tools like secret passage and gear shift are combined with dig for treasure, which can give you coins, quick pick, which which not only draws but also summons pirates off of jolly roger, and shadow step to bounce the boat. The high roll is you summon a board full of small pirates, possibly buffed by zilliax, and an empty deck to garrote combo. The low roll is you never draw the toy boat and lose.
@VanceViltrum9 ай бұрын
You are a true gem in the hearthstone community. Don’t stop making videos
@mrchundo9 ай бұрын
Thank you : )
@Caydos9 ай бұрын
Il'gynoth... Damn card was a straight up nightmare being played on its entire span only evolving not devolving and I was one of the guys who abused it the most to climb with DH and hit 1K win portrait 😂
@alexiwright36569 ай бұрын
The glorious retundo of the chundo
@mrchundo9 ай бұрын
Thank you : )
@Our_Remedy8 ай бұрын
9:03 Hearing that a 2 mana card is too expensive is absolutely comical levels of powercreep.
@EnderGoku90019 ай бұрын
i remember dusting an extra legendary and thinking this was like that one combo card that comes back to your hand this card left me flabbergasted
@IanMyDude9 ай бұрын
It’s a good thing Chundo didn’t abandon the channel for months unlike that other guy who he mentioned in the video.
@mrchundo9 ай бұрын
Hypothetical hypothetical
@LordKeram9 ай бұрын
1:30 seconds into the video and you say traditional HS fans said combo v combo would become the norm that would destroy the classical board control playstyle of HS. And you ask if they were. YES! YES they were. And this shift killed HS. I played HS since the beta. Loved it back then and played for like 3 years consecutively. Since then I would always quit and come back after a while, play for a couple of months and quit again. Coming back after United in Stormwind made me think I was playing a different game. There was no counter play or thought anymore. It was just which one of us gets their cards first? And unfortunately it seems HS dev team is fine with exactly that type of gameplay...
@kang19837 ай бұрын
Sad that i never got to play this deck at full power cuz i wasnt playing at the time but i did have fun with the "lite" version of poison rogue
@steelblake7 ай бұрын
I'm gonna use a Yugioh analogy here but as someone who used to play Vanilla Hearthstone, watching this give me the whiplash of someone who used to play GOAT format suddenly being forced to espectate a Tearlament mirror match-up. This thing is crazy
@notavoh23039 ай бұрын
i didnt really miss the other united in storm wind decks but this deck did have a special place in my heart for awhile, bad for game health yea but i enjoyed comboing
@HenryGengler5 ай бұрын
I took a break from HS from the end of darkmoon fair till after fractured in alterac valley. Best accidental decision ever
@blackholesun49429 ай бұрын
The pve mission where you had to do a garrot otk took me atleast 30 minutes 😅
@dragonpug14529 ай бұрын
Certified Chundtastic video
@mrchundo9 ай бұрын
🫡
@lrainwater16089 ай бұрын
Warlock currently has a deck that’s like this with sludge. They get thad and spam a bunch of sludge
@Benjy529 ай бұрын
This really gives me bad memories on how terribly unbalanced United in Stormwind was. So many people quit during that expansion, and I was one of them. The concepts were good, but many cards were far too overtuned with little balancing ever done to them.
@ZoMbi5lAy3r9 ай бұрын
This was during the time period when I was exclusively a BG player. Thank God I never experienced this happen to me
@evand21859 ай бұрын
I would like to offer my opinion: regis has never been good at this game and it's baffling to me that he's never gotten any better over the years. Subscribe to chundo
@hausu31639 ай бұрын
True he is very bad Lol, i mean hes cool and deserves his community but its also crazy to me how he cannot learn to play even 10 years later
@townbug8 ай бұрын
i cant believe secret passage used to be five cards. its still insane at four
@richarizard40499 ай бұрын
I love minion based decks! (Pay no attention to the Sludge fatigue Warlock deck I’m currently playing with)
@mrchundo9 ай бұрын
everyone sneaks a little combo now and then
@meruempro9 ай бұрын
We're so back
@mrchundo9 ай бұрын
the indomitable human spirit
@jinh6059 ай бұрын
the chundoment may have bankrupted chundo incorporated, but you can't keep a good chund down.
@mrchundo9 ай бұрын
have to keep uploaded to pay off my debts to my chundloan sharks
@Quiqsave9 ай бұрын
instant sub. I loved this deck along with libram paladin. pen flinger was so much fun to play with in both of those decks, even if it was a little unhealthy for the meta. do we even want an unnerfed pen flinger in wild? 🤔
@mrchundo9 ай бұрын
Pen flinger was an all timer
@HaloNeInTheDark279 ай бұрын
Can you explain why pen flinger was unhealthy for the meta? The main class that used it was paladin, and the only reason it was so good, was because of the basically infinite 0 cost librams
@Quiqsave9 ай бұрын
I'd say that the issue was that it could do face damage, so that sort of infinite combo created a pretty poor play experience. That and the tilting voiceline (HEY LOSER!) contributed to a play pattern that Blizzard didn't like.@@HaloNeInTheDark27
@sockman58379 ай бұрын
God I needed chundo sooooo bad
@rdbTank9 ай бұрын
I was so happy when this deck rotated out of the meta
@mrchundo9 ай бұрын
I was a fan lowkey
@tellierbop9 ай бұрын
The classic chundozer sweep
@mrchundo9 ай бұрын
never truly chundo her
@RogueBlabber9 ай бұрын
Best hs channel tbh needs more subscrunders
@Cuestrupaster9 ай бұрын
Hearthstone always had decks that was difficult to pilot and had very high winrates, but was brought down by people who didn't knew how to pilot it... and because of it also made other worse decks seems better... it was always rocks paper and scissors, jsut more complex and cooler.
@radianth44299 ай бұрын
< certified chundohead
@lighterraptor76079 ай бұрын
Thé return of Chuns
@nsy83079 ай бұрын
Just discovered your channel, great content, not lived this HS moment but I hate DMG from hand decks such as actual naga DH and thaddius sludgelock, hope devs stop supporting that much this mechanic
@mrchundo9 ай бұрын
Yeah it’s usually pretty frustrating to get taken from 30 to 0 in one turn
@ethankennedykemwashere33609 ай бұрын
Chundo time is the best time.
@mrchundo9 ай бұрын
chumdo
@jaydenproctor84059 ай бұрын
I saw the title and thumbnail. Now after agreeing, I have to watch the video and like against my will without even hearing your voice.
@stax79309 ай бұрын
yes! new chundo!
@mrchundo9 ай бұрын
: )
@amberlee45369 ай бұрын
Gadgetzan Auctioneer actually costs 7 mana now...
@Xanthopathy9 ай бұрын
Good stuff 👍
@mrchundo9 ай бұрын
Thanks 👍
@mihailopetrovic22629 ай бұрын
The backround music is a bit too loud.
@mrchundo9 ай бұрын
Noted!
@thefirstsipx9 ай бұрын
downloaded hearthstone just to play this deck again
@ciciosweep9 ай бұрын
This reminds me at what Rarran used to be
@jims77739 ай бұрын
The most skilled deck would be the priest death rattle minion that returns what you cast on it to your hand 0tk. This deck is literally just draw cards and win
@mrchundo9 ай бұрын
I would say dead man’s hand warrior probably as well
@hausu31639 ай бұрын
Apm priest, yea def harder than this one, people overrate garrote rogue cause the casters at the time used to say how hard it is
@coolguy-qu2su9 ай бұрын
WE LOVE YOU CHUNDO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! WOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
@mrchundo9 ай бұрын
THANK YOU!!!!!!!!!!
@Peter-wy1rg9 ай бұрын
🗣️🗣️🗣️ NEW CHUNDO VIDEO!!!
@mrchundo9 ай бұрын
YOU KNOW IT
@AudibleShrug9 ай бұрын
Chundo!
@mrchundo9 ай бұрын
AudibleShrug!
@aleksandarkovacevic71389 ай бұрын
How to see all VS reviews?
@mrchundo9 ай бұрын
Usually the have a “vicious syndicate preview” before every new expansion on their website
@Xarenth6 ай бұрын
is it really pronounced with a "rot" sound? i always went with "rote"
@lucascanetelara46259 ай бұрын
Even though Bolner Shaman ran an OTK combo it played like a midrange deck thanks to cards like snowfall and the spell that summoned 3/4s. You rarely got to pull of the combo simce you had no way to fetch the pieces and rarely got that late into the game
@offsale89119 ай бұрын
WINDMILL IS FREE AT LAST
@mrchundo9 ай бұрын
Only reason I uploaded
@zeno65549 ай бұрын
NEW SUB it is ME!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
@mrchundo9 ай бұрын
AWESOME!!!!
@Xarenth6 ай бұрын
where's my auctioneer :(
@CyanLovesYou9 ай бұрын
HOLY MOLY!!!! :3
@mrchundo9 ай бұрын
:3
@electricVGC9 ай бұрын
Chunded and Chunscribed. Chungotte Rogue good?
@mrchundo9 ай бұрын
Chundastic.
@jibhsjobhs21719 ай бұрын
Love this essay, even if you "abandoned" us for a month or so. Don't worrry though we'll be here to enjoy your content :)
@mrchundo9 ай бұрын
Can’t leave anybody hungry for chundo
@mr.voidroy68699 ай бұрын
It's prounced Gerrote
@KALANGODEPAREDE3D9 ай бұрын
The deck was not so hard to play tbh or it is because i main rogue, dunno
@mrchundo9 ай бұрын
I always got confused personally on when to summon augmerchants for tempo
@hausu31639 ай бұрын
Its a little overrated for sure
@maucool9999 ай бұрын
More make more
@philbuttler34277 ай бұрын
The game design literacy of the average person in these comments trying to talk about why this meta sucked is pretty fascinating. Like the problem was never game balance but damn if people don't keep talking about balance lol.
@baileyayyy50859 ай бұрын
if only blizzard didnt convert that game into a money farm :/ edit: i subscribed to chundo and so should you
@hammdogporkington30589 ай бұрын
Worse yet, Thaurissan cost 6 when he was in Standard
@CubeCF9 ай бұрын
obvious and definitive proof that classic was a better format
@BasicallyADiety9 ай бұрын
Chundo is no longer Donedo
@mrchundo9 ай бұрын
I chunDo what I can
@mrdrquesos27959 ай бұрын
auctioner 7 mana
@terrycrews15849 ай бұрын
Nice video, but 18 minutes for this? Aint no way chief. Keep em shorter, 11-13.
@mrchundo9 ай бұрын
Input taken!
@jamesberkeley3909 ай бұрын
❤
@maebemaebenot9 ай бұрын
Another great video! I hated this fucking deck.
@vinh31719 ай бұрын
I love you
@Galaktika1139 ай бұрын
very good video, but most skilled deck in game? meh, it's too big exaggeration, but I guess nice clickbait. Still like the video and keep doing what you doing )))
@blackholesun49429 ай бұрын
What is the most skilled iyo?
@mrchundo9 ай бұрын
You gotta spice it up sometimes - but I think it has a fair case