[Hearthstone] Should Arena Be More Consistent?

[@vibingwiththewind2889]

How many Blizzard Developers does it take to change a lightbulb???? They can't, because first they'd have to balance the ladder.

[@Fabelaz]

Fucking gold!

[@Sarge216]

Working as intended

[@d1pstick]

Kappa //

[@randomname7918]

3+1 2 programmers to hold the ladder 1 designer to insert the lightbulb and finally, one Ben Brode to explain to the angry people, why the opaque lightbulb is better and why it was the best decision at the moment. Kappa

[@spookboii2039]

+rep

[@ChaosBladewing]

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[@xcyzvvv2346]

I feel compelled to like your comment...

[@alexluna6238]

+Jason Dang (NitroCreeper456) k

[@Lionbug]

i liked it, don´t worry :)

[@ChaosBladewing]

Lion Reichelt \ ;-; /

[@solitustenno8215]

you're just dreaming, oh wait..

[@slimpwarrior]

Here's a joke: Blizzard is good at balancing Hearthstone

[@bookoopa64]

here's a joke arena priest

[@i_am_ergo]

Here's a joke: You're both funny and original.

[@dzb868]

Here's a joke: Blizzard is good at balancing their games.

[@ronengaming]

Isn't that just life in general?

[@MeesterGgaming]

here's a joke: purify is good

[@kripperenojacksorino82]

Yeah, Blizzard, make it more consistent by limiting all Cards to one. That will make it.

[@flamewreatherinofaceleseri6128]

Actually that idea sounds pretty good. Your opponent will have only one 4 mana 7/7 in turn 4

[@KsanUwU]

30 renos would be balanced, but if neither of the players has heal/armor. The second player always wins. AKA balance, since the game is rng based. Rolling first or second would be 100% rng!

[@dazger3817]

What if they draft the original 4 mana 7/7, Eerie statue

[@TahvliMangud]

+Dazger (ParaVox) Corr Rager will come and kick your ass

[@dazger3817]

Miku9999 Eerie statue's better, best Card NA

[@MagmaRagerinoKripperino]

Every deck should have to draft atleast one Rager. This would bring some consistency...

[@rangerraffe229]

but that would mean everyone would use ice rager

[@KsanUwU]

Ice rager? Pfft what is that crap? The original rager is clearly the best. Ice can be slashed and smashed, fire cannot. Fire spreads and burns anything and everything, regardless of its size. As long as the target is flammable.

[@malango255]

But thed I'd run your natural counter, Am'gam rager.

[@KsanUwU]

***** Fucking party pooper. Gtfo!

[@ManeFunction]

If everyone draft a Rager, no one will be!

[@SkipperinoHS]

4:16

[@LoLAimAtMe]

So fast.

[@purpleisthesneakiest]

On point

[@TheOnlyPeachmage]

Saved my life

[@flamewreatherinofaceleseri6128]

O shet im early, i need a joke Core rager

[@dergodi]

+Flamewreatherino Faceleserino kriperino i Got a Better One Puri... Ok No , i wont say this

[@DangerDoom9000]

Every arena should have a common deck formula. Like every arena you are guaranteed to have 12 commons 10 rares 6 epics and 2 legends

[@moahammad1mohammad]

12 target dummies 10 Angry chickens 6 astral communions and 2 lorewalker cho's There arena fixed

[@adityajain1278]

But that's a big problem just as Kripp was saying. 12 mage commons absolutely crushes 12 priest commons. The rating of cards based on rarity is absolutely absurd. A godly card such as flame strike is a common whereas a shitty priest card like purify (I know its not in arena, just an example) is common too. They need to readjust all rarities of the cards. Making cards like truesilver/flamestrike rare or epics and making shitty rares and epics commons.

[@nemanjajesic5570]

+Mohammad M dummy is rare

[@stanime3065]

Legends should just be random, guaranteeing 2legends every deck would be infuriating.

[@ALastStraw]

Well maybe not have but the choice to pick.

[@ralphinoful]

5:15 why didn't you razorfen, then boar, hit the shieldmaster with your 1/1, then clock him with your now 4/5. So much more tempo. Am I missing something??

[@peterkicsi1302]

Yeah, he made a huge mistake there - he could win if he did that play.

[@hefestisllove6056]

No, if he had done that he would've had an 4,2 on board and ~in arena you really need to have big cards in the field and since he couldn't kill any of his cards with the shieldmaster kripp may get a better trade on the turn after with spells and spawñing even more stuff, Sorry for my english, don't judge me

[@verrat3219]

Nope ur not missing ur correct, he misplayed

[@PenatiLorenzo]

with that play he actualy kills the shield master

[@ralphinoful]

Simao Henriques having a 4/2, 2/3 and 1/1, against a clear board is much more impactful in arena rather than a 2/5, 4/5 against a 3/5

[@KudoBrothers]

Arena is the coolest mode in HS and you have to purchase a run. I would be 100% okay with another arena mode that is free but no rewards. Constructed is just annoying and frustrating to play.

[@MrMrtvozornik]

Pft, like casual is any better. I go in casual to try out new legendary from Karazan just to be faced with aggro cancer decks 4 out of 5 times. People are cancer even in casual.

[@xanmagrandma8251]

i dont see the logic of playing casual, but whats worse is TRYHARDING in casual. you arent gaining any rank by doing so and there is no 'win streak,' so why play a cancer deck? i usually play a somewhat aggro druid until a kinda-high rank then just grind levels because i know ill never beat the fucking zoolocks and aggro paladins.

[@psycojester]

The logic goes 'I have a quest for a class I hate and don't want to play on ladder because I might lose stars, so i'm going to netdeck the most braindead faceroll agro deck for this class and play it in casual until the quest is finished'

[@AlexSanOfficial]

Dunno what wrong with me, but i've played casual today and faced two freeze mages, one miracle rogue, one contol warrior, bunch of zoolocks and two or maybe three secret hunters.

[@xanmagrandma8251]

+LAKORIZONstandard or just dont be absolute garbage at the game. ill be honest i make it to like rank 15 in constructed (so im pretty shit) but i can get AT LEAST 2 or 3 wins every arena deck I've gotten. and tk put my decks in perspective, i have never once gotten a legendary. i understand some people face 12 win decks at 0-2 but like that is so unlikely it hurts

[@RobbyOdom]

I wish they would allow you a pick from 5 instead of 3.

[@kalashnikov1343]

Yeah, that'd be a simple change that could help a bit.

[@stevanmilanovic5073]

Think 5 is too much, but 4 would be perfect.

[@Jaxx0405]

But problem with pick from 5, is that you're going to see alot more OP decks in Arena. Do you really want to see more flamestrikes / fireballs / water elementals etc?

[@palda8892]

+Stevan Milanovic Yeah 4 would be perfect :)

[@kalashnikov1343]

JaXX It shouldn't theoretically make decks "more OP" because all classes would be benefiting equally from it, but relatively, it might actually make the arena worse, because classes with the strongest abundance of commons would become insanely strong. Blizz would also have to balance the rarity system, then adding to the card draft pool would be great for more consistency.

[@jonathanbohn4805]

In Magic, drafts (the "equivalent" of arena) are usually 8 players, who open three 15-card booster packs, selecting one card from each pack and then passing it on. In this fashion, the quality of decks is fairly uniform in any particular draft.

[@Jacks_Ghost]

First, some perspective. I'm a PURIFY-PRIEST player. If you don't know what that is, it's not important, just know it's a deck I'm very passionate about and that I've played for three years now. That's right, I've played the same deck for the years, and it's never gotten stale. Why? Because the enjoyment comes from mastering the deck, from fine tuning my decision making, my sequencing, from learning how to play around the latest and greatest shenanigans.

[@Dayfer]

HS is an rng/emotional rollercoaster - and this is how it's purposefully designed. Ppl get mad>buy packs. Ppl get lucky and win>they are happy with the game. 'Consistency' in this game is your overall winrate, that's it.

[@zhaf]

Well I like what Day9 said a while back that in arena you draft 40 cards and discard 10 cards in order to have a better chance at creating better and themed decks. I also think that every draft should have guaranteed number of rarity drafts. Something in line with 1 legendary, 3 epics, 6 rares and 20 (or in the case above 30) "normal" random rarity card drafts. But bbrode said that they were working on an new arena draft system where rarity wont matter right? So maybe for the next expansion?... maybe?

[@tachiiderp]

It happens because there's a lot of shitty cards that exists that Blizzard has no intention of balancing, they just straight up power creep with "newer" cards.

[@KsanUwU]

Even if every card was 100% balanced and on curve, arena would still be inconsistant. Some might get a bunch of epics or legendaries, they get weapons and removals. And half your cards are common 1-5 drops.

[@kalashnikov1343]

+Rias-Sama But if all cards are balanced, rarity us irrelevant and so are types of cards.

[@KsanUwU]

Charle Magne No, balance means on curve value. What you are talking about is not balance, having cards like murlocs or beasts does not bring imbalance. They just work with each other more.

[@tachiiderp]

All I'm saying is consistency will improve. Nobody is selling an utopian Hearthstone game here.

[@Zakon673]

Making a slightly better version of a terrible card isn't power creep, because the card it's replacing is already bad and thus isn't played. It is, however, very scummy of them.

[@frostythesnowmang]

kripp misplayed at 5:13, he should have played razorfen hunter and the stonetusk boar, then killed the shieldmasta

[@CabbageYe]

with 3 mana?!

[@danmullen1465]

+Dr. Pepper Yeah the same 3 mana he used to play the yeti instead

[@EugeneCernan]

No, with 5 mana.

[@frostythesnowmang]

EugeneCernan he had 4 mana... lol

[@profaneLakeman]

scrolled down to either find or post this. thank you, citizen.

[@klxroly1]

random thought. Have arena make you pick one pack series and only pick those cards with the basic cards along with them in draft.

[@randomnumbers84269]

kripp with a pinch of salt is the kripp we all know and love

[@someone-ji2zb]

Way back when you had about 1/7th the amounts of cards we do today, there wasn't much inconsistency. They need to adjust now that the game has had such a huge influx over the years. Mages will always have the advantage with their class cards/common clears showing up all the frickin time.

[@briand2521]

Seriously this Mage deck is insane

[@Zenn3k]

Yes, because fuck Arena and the fact I get 30 common trash drops and my opponent drafted 3 Truesilver Champions.

[@scalpingsnake]

thats because there is one of you and EVERYONE else is your opponent so statistically you are going to come across better decks and better players plus always have a few rares or greater.

[@Pirantsable]

3 truesilvers ? nice

[@Blazeboi1337]

Had 3 truesilvers in my arenadeck today lol. Got 10-3 :)

[@nemtudom5074]

Truesilver is a common too.

[@EriconatorV2]

It's literally impossible to draft 30 commons.

[@YeetYeet-nb4mm]

Yeah it should, all classes should have a 4 mana 7/7.

[@bookoopa64]

all classes can get a 4 mana 7/7 its just that shamman can have 2

[@dazger3817]

Yep, people forget about eerie statue

[@Gromitz101]

Why do I have a little white boy in my closet?

[@EriconatorV2]

How is that racist?

[@lawrencegill4505]

priest can have 2 3 mana 7/7. Doomsayer > silence > inner fire. for a mere 6 cards you can play two tempo minions

[@joelt2002]

I think Brode mentioned (or someone I was talking to) that a system that lowers the chance of drawing a card the more the card is picked. Though this might end up making Arena unfun, but the commonality wouldn't really matter anymore as the best cards will have the lowest chance of appearing.

[@Grishyy]

I think the Dungeoneering system from Chronicle: RuneScape Legends would work well in Hearthstone. Draft 2 from a choice of 5 helps get some sort of consistency and also allows for some decent synergy.

[@igniteice]

Here's the decklist (24 of 30 cards) of Kripp's opponent: www.hearthpwn.com/decks/609685-arena Yeah, it's pretty crazy. It's not 7 flamestrike crazy, but then again, I don't know what the last 6 cards were. He could have another flamestrike, another legendary, some fireballs, who knows.

[@maxmuellerm]

Is there a reason not to clear with Boar and Hunter at 5:16?

[@nikowardenski8044]

to be fair, that guys deck wasnt insane at all. his turn 6 was basically a pass. the lance carrier was pretty good, but that was only situaional, lance carrier obviously is not that good. the flamecannon also was not good at all, a spider tank would have been way better there. this guy had a flamestrike, but having a flamestrike does not make your deck good automatically, as you saw on 8:20, where he didnt have one large removal. and i dont even have to mention this guys crappy as hell lategame. so this video just shows that it sucks to have really crappy decks and not, that some classes are way way better than others

[@YouJustCantBeatMeGuy]

yeah that crappy chillmaw into deathwing late game

[@ODDnanref]

It crappy to have a guaranteed board clear. really crappy.

[@gabrielragum]

Yeah yeah every arena deck has Chillmaw and Deathwing AND plenty of removal, so i guess it wasn't insane at all. But still Kripp made some missplays and could've won..

[@nikowardenski8044]

How good is Chillmaw? Chillmaw is most often a 7 mana 6/6 taunt. Bog creeper would have been way better in that situation. deathwing is a good card, but you dont say that a deck is good only because it has a few good cards. This mage had like no large removal and all in all really bad card quality. just go thorugh the video and check every single card, these are not insane at all!

[@YouJustCantBeatMeGuy]

the fact he had chillmaw and deathwing respectively wasn't what was good about it, its the fact that the synergy they create together and the fact they both act as a board clear makes them good

[@MasterTheik]

Couldn't agree more. I've made 12-0 in the past and I've gone 1-3, playing exactly the same, simply because of getting complete garbage choices and going up against opponents who did get good cards. There you are, sitting on your deck of 29 commons and 1 rare, and the other guy ends up having both Ragnaros and Hogger. It was like... yeah, great, fun game.

[@MajesticStarDuelist]

I was playing a Paladin at 2-1 that had the Chow > Minibot > Muster going first while I had nothing smaller than a 4- drop in my opening hand. Fortunately I top decked Doomsayer turn 2. FeelsGoodMan.

[@ilNascituroPerplesso]

I think a good balance for Arena should be a draft deck mode with a fixed number of rarity card. So at the beginning of an Arena run you know that you'll have at least a deck with (for example): 1 legendary, 3 epic, 8 rare and 18 common. Not necessarily in this way, but it can be a good idea in opinion.

[@LoboPal]

I still remember my first arena run. It was around the time just before gvg. I saw oddone say mage was good, so when it was offered I took it. I got 5 fireballs and black knight, then went 7/3.

[@kalashnikov1343]

WAYS TO BALANCE ARENA 1.) *Balance your cards.* Generally, constructed decks are greater than arena decks, but there are some cards in the game that aren't played in constructed that not even an arena player would want. 2.) *Fix rarity.* Rarity is currently a major deciding factor in Arena, which theoretically is okay if it wasn't completely arbitrary. 3.) *Increase draft pools.* Think of this as a spectrum. If arena simply gave you a deck of completely random cards, that deck is always almost always going to be worse and less consistent than if a player was drafting from a pool of 3. However, 3 has perhaps proved to not be enough. We need to increase the cards pools even more to enable more consistancy. 1-card pool arena draft = as random and inconsistant as it gets. If we go to the opposite side of the spectrum, infinite-card pool arena draft, we get literally constructed, which is the most consistant.

[@Noobie2k7]

What i`ve been saying for about a year and a half now. Arena should have specific draft raritys at certain pard picks. EG card 30 will allways be a legendary. You get like a certain number of raritys in a draft garunteed then the rest are commons. Like you`re garunteed 1 legendary, 4 epics and 8 rares then the rest commons. That was every deck has the same chances of drafting similar powers of cards.

[@madman13000]

I reached a similar realization a little while ago. I averaged just under 6 wins per arena in WotoG, so I'm not the best at it, but I'm not terrible either. I had a 2-3 Mage arena with a deck that I didn't really expect to do well. So it's whatever. The next day I do an arena and my options are hunter, priest, and druid. So I draft a druid deck with pretty decent minions, but not much removal. I'm really only expecting 4-5 wins. I proceed to go 1-3 against a bunch of decks that were way too good to be at 1-1 and 1-2. My 1-2 game in particular against a shaman with spot removal, weapon, a lightning storm, and high quality minions. I'm getting aggravated, but I decide to immediately do another arena. My options are hunter, priest, and paladin. So I pick paladin and my first card pick is between Target Dummy, Eerie Statue, and Silithid Swarmer.... I immediately proceed to uninstall the game.

[@adolphinler6628]

Disenchanted cthun to craft twin emperors feelsbadman

[@ODDnanref]

Why? Is that card not impossible to craft or something?

[@bookoopa64]

you cant disenchant c'thun

[@MrClarktom]

you cant dust cthun you mess

[@adolphinler6628]

we aint talking about the past were talking about the present

[@adolphinler6628]

"you cant dust cthun you mess" i dont know about you but that doesnt sound like hes talking about the past

[@MeriadocMyr]

I play a lot of magic and in their sealed format as you probably know you just work with pack in which the number of commons uncommons and rares is always (sometimes different in some sets) the the same. it might be nice if instead of the base 3 rares you get in hearthstone while everything beyond that being random, they would make it some that everyone always get the same amount of rares, epics and legend. I don't know what the amount should be, but everyone getting 18 commons, 7 rares, 4 epics and 1 legend in each run might be good. It will prolly not balance the classes but at least it would make the ups and downs further apart.

[@zantardis]

The reason Hearthstone is less consistent than MTG for example is that MTG has you draft your deck from a communal set of cards. Meaning every player you play was given pretty much the same pool to draw from. The issue with this however is you HAVE to play with those players right then for up 4 hours without being able to leave and come back another day. It's a big trade off, I'm sure other games have found ways to do it better though.

[@raigenki3498]

TBH at 5:15 just go razorfen + boar to clear the senjin. why would you yeti there?

[@BroudbrunMusicMerge]

5:10 Misplay - should've gone for the summon 3 and trade, leaving him with a 4/2, 2/3 and a 1/1 against an empty board.

[@malango255]

The way ranked should work is your first game is random whether you start first or second, then the next game the opposite. So if you started going 1st next game you go 2nd then game after that 1st again. that would make a big difference.

[@Gromitz101]

I was wondering why they didn't do this when I saw his going 2nd stats video.

[@phineasevilrabbitoak]

Probably because it would add another requirement to matchmaking, always needing to include a going first-guy and a going second-/first game of the night-guy. In other words, it'd cut away half the possible match ups for every player, every game. Still worth it? Possibly, but matchmaking times would be longer, and chances of running into the same guy multiple times in a row would increase.

[@malango255]

The Rabbitoak thats a good point. just really annoys me. I had a 3-3 run earlier where 5 games i went 2nd. I was lucky to get 3 wins. then yesterday i went 11-3 with a really shit deck ha.

[@Gromitz101]

The Rabbitoak The upside is, winning more because you may go first more, facing the same guy could be a blessing cause you know the deck, and I much rather have a longer queue time than my odds of winning reduced. But for me it doesn't matter as I don't play this game much. I merely watch it for entertainment and kripp puts me to sleep at night lol.

[@phineasevilrabbitoak]

Gromitz101 His voice is perfect for having a nap after dinner too, actually. And like I tried to say earlier, changing matchmaking might still be worth it , but there'd be a price is all.

[@boggerinocreepperino3591]

Great idea! As the greatest card in arena everyone would want to consistently draft atleast 3 of me.

[@InvyKing]

What if they did a guaranteed system for Arena?? First 20 cards are common card pools 21-27 are rare card pools 28-30 are epic or legendary card pools Something similar to this anyways, I could see it working and make Arena more consistent I feel.

[@TheRyanK]

100% Agree with the rarity evaluation, Ive always from day 1 thought there was some imbalance here, and its only getting worse. They need to do a pass on all cards and re-categorize the cards to suit there tiers in terms of power.

[@mihkelhint]

That opponent played 24 cards that were a combined 1539 points in the heartharena tier list. Meaning his average deck tier score based on what we saw was 64.1. That's like in bottom 10%, that opponent had a very inconsistent deck with bunch of very weak cards.

[@Manlyman47]

Man I laughed so hard when it turned out that the dragon was deathing. Lol that some magnicifent bullshit right there.

[@Noobie2k7]

Another idea would be to just completely remove the rarity drafting thing and replace it by mana costs. Blizzard can then also balance arena on the fly by simply tweaking the chance of drafting certain mana cost cards on the fly. The most important thing in arena is staying on curve and playing tempo every turn. So have the draft be based around that makes way more sense than any sort of unbalanced rarity quality disparity among classes.

[@Noobie2k7]

If every class has the exact same chance of drafting a 1 drop, 2 drop, 3 drop, 4 drop etc etc.

[@Langolyer2010]

From my perspective only one thing really bad in arena: if one player makes 6-3 run, another player need to complete 0-3 run. I'm not even talking about 12-0s Kripp so common about - 4 people need to go 0-3 to enable that result. Nobody seems to really understand that average result in arena is BELOW 3 wins.

[@LlorracTN]

pretty sure ben brode said they were planning to redo the arena drafting to not work off of rarity

[@Tronarul]

i've been there, a mage shot firelands portal when he was losing hard to my hunter and low and behold he gets halaziel, freaking halaziel and wouldn't u know it, he had a 2nd flamelance to help him win a definite losing match

[@ImFenster]

Ben Brode said they were working on a new drafting system not based on rarities in his Purify video. Fingers crossed.

[@WannaComment2]

Just make arena rarity based on how often the cards get picked. Cards that get picked every time they're an option simply show up a lot less often.That way it's impossible to get a deck full of only good to great cards and everybody would have to deal with some shitty cards as well.

[@myexistenceisamomentarylap815]

I think they should make arena like sealed in Magic: the Gathering, you open X many packs and build your deck out of that.

[@gabrielragum]

That actually could be a tavern brawl :p

[@wellplayed6061]

That chillmaw deathwing was insane

[@doncheto4825]

I predict that kripperino will stop playing hs by the end of this year lol

[@Nightstalker314]

Back to WoW it is!

[@WBlake01]

+Nightstalker314 I wish.

[@CoL_Drake]

wow is dead

[@WBlake01]

Holly let's just forget WoD ever happened and it's fine

[@avananana]

+Metatranscendent Let's just forget everything after WotLK ever happend*

[@solidtank7957]

EleGiggle I'm KRIPPARIAN, and this is my pawn shop. I work here with my old lady Rania and my son, Big Dex. Every minute of my stream has a story and a price. One thing I've learned after 21 years of salt - you never know WHAT they're gonna pay me to play EleGiggle

[@myexistenceisamomentarylap815]

Nice.

[@Yeet42069]

honestly had you not made the misplay at 5:14 and played the hunter+boar to end up with a 4/2 a 2/3 and 1/1 on the board, you would have won, but then again thats a hard play to spot

[@benhanson4199]

As a person whos played a lot of hearthstone AND chronicle runescape legends arena, I dont think its really that much more consistent in chronicle. If anything, I think chronicle is more inconsistent as you almost always have to find cards to combo into killing bigger cards, rather than being able to play stand alone cards like you normally do in hearthstone.

[@TF2PNub]

I wonder how differently that game would have gone if Kripp had killed the Sen'jin on turn 4 by playing Razorfen Hunter and Boar then trading. He would've denied any use for the Lance Carrier, denied a full value off the Acolyte, had enough of a board to contest the Psycho-Tron, and would've been able to play Yeti and Blood imp on that turn, giving him two full turns to apply enough pressure to maybe make a difference. I guess that's just me having a bad player mentality by not ensuring I have something to play the next turn since Kripp didn't know he'd get the Blood Imp, but I would think a growing Councilman is enough of a threat at the time to risk being 1 mana off curve on turn 5. Maybe I just suck and should stay in Twitch Chat where the other Rank 25's congregate.

[@makaramuss]

What I think is only legendries must have lower chance to be drafted when making deck By this I mean epics and commons has equal chance to be drafted But still you will find fewer epics than commons since number of commons are VERY HUGE compared to epics Yet by this warriors can find brawl and your enemy will not say "oh secret... well ice block is epic so most likely its not that" when you play secret as mage

[@tktheking93]

5:15 why wouldn't he play Razorfen Hunter and Stonetusk Boar, trade the 1/1 charge and 4/5 Councilman into Senjin. Definitely alot better play than a Yeti. When you think your decks sucks, you usually make bad plays just to justify it :)

[@BlackwaterPark666]

How about adopting the standard / wild format to the arena system. I think there would be enough people playing both formats. There were also doubts about enough ppl playing wild in ranked, but it is still around and it will get more and more popular over time when people want to have that retro feeling of playing with their old cards. Arena needs something like this sooner or later, like standard / modern / legacy in magic tcg.

[@GamePlayMetal]

I really think it's stupid that the rarity of cards you get in arena is random. I think it should be a fixed number (like 16 commons, 8 rares, 4 epics & 2 legendaries, or something like that)ecause even then there's gonna be a huge variance in card quality. But Blizz wants more random in their random

[@MrJarryd1988]

would making each of the three cards you can choose from have a chance at being above common make it more fair? then there is a 0-90 chance of getting rare or above rather than 0-30.

[@MrJarryd1988]

my reasoning is that if you have a bigger "choice pool" so to speak then you will get a broader average. with less chance of getting a rediculously good/bad deck

[@ienjoychaitea5275]

They should give you at least one choice between Moroes, Moroes and Moroes. That would make it quite consistent

[@Flum666]

The salty tears of Kripp feeds my power, I'm almost powerful enough to take over the entire galaxy.

[@ManeFunction]

The solution is the constant number of rare card. For example, every deck can have 1 legendary, 3 epics, 5 rares and fill others with common. That's it! P.S.: The numbers can be different.

[@rinmathews9337]

What is your favorite Hearthstone class? www.strawpoll.me/10992023/

[@Satherian]

lol, everyone is trolling

[@BaeKasma]

i know dont trick me

[@verrat3219]

Priest ftw. Purify to op

[@Fartuess]

Possible quick and dirty solution: Increase arena occurrance of class rare cards to the level comparable to common cards.

[@City_Hunter]

Kripp thanks for this video. I think you are spot on with the arbitrary rarity determination.

[@mrapplegate4065]

I think Blizzard should experiment with the idea of Arena-exclusive rarities. Only a small handful of Hearthstone's cards are complex enough to justify gating them off with Epic/Legendary status. There's a lot going on with Hearthstone's classes, and it may need to be ironed out with some small tweaks here and there.

[@markem1122]

Ben brode over the twitter Q&A he did a few days back said that he and hearthstone in general might be considering changing something about area

[@markem1122]

like how certain cards will apper and so on

[@Imminent0Demise]

Also,as they add more cards, variance just goes up with each expansion, and the majority of decks seems to get worse and worse. I definitely not the best Arena player, but I played couple of runs last weekend. While my average of about 5 wins seems to have stuck. I got more 10-12 win decks than I ever have previously. It felt like 12 wins or 1-3. The Dream deck is getting stronger and stronger every expansion, not just with the stupid cards they are releasing, but also because every deck that isn't the dream is getting worse and worse with all the trash that gets released also.

[@Trideente]

Kripp sure has fun playing Hearthstone

[@adamfreed2291]

In my last arena run I went 2-3, and faced 6 legendaries: Sylvanas, Cairne, Rag, Grommash, Blingtron, and Shifter Zerus. Is this normal?

[@thrax1920]

the concentration of salt in Kripps tears is too damn high

[@LiamStackLiamStackLiamStack]

I don't really like RS Chronicles but I think the drafting system they have is much better. I believe every player gets the same number of rare cards, but correct me if I'm wrong

[@dposse]

Didn't Ben Brode already say they'd be taking a look at this and making a new system for Arena that's not based on rarity?

[@bulink5087]

every time I watch a kripp vid I get a blizzard add.

[@GilTheCohen]

Kripp loses: "He had every possible answer and he topdecks a whisp" Kripp wins: "Eeeeasy game boys"

[@Soulessnight4]

*opponent pulls chillmaw out of their ass AND deathwing* wtf arena

[@crashl117]

Are there any cards which hasn't been Kripperino-fied?

[@CloakingDonkey]

you could pretty much fix this by giving out 40 cards and allowing the player to bin 10 of them. if that's too complicated for newbies (how it can be more complicated than understanding what is good in arena I have no idea) then add an automated system to weed out crap. Bam. Arena has just become a real drafting format. Congratulations, you have taken your first step out of the RNG shit swamp.

[@ericbess5917]

5:16 - Does anyone besides me think Razerfen and Boar, kill the Shieldmasta might be a better play?

[@strongside4565]

It is obvious that Arena is supposed to be chaotic and random but the class balance is the only real problem. It could be remedied by changing rarities but then Blizzard loses money by making staple cards easy to come by for constructed. The point is supposed to be that sometimes you get absolute shit and sometimes you get a constructed quality deck.

[@TheDevildante92]

i think everyone should have a minimum of each rarity card. Like 2 legendary 6 epic 10 rare and 12 common and draft that way. You can build a realy deck like that because you can build around those legendary of your.

[@TheGameInstinct]

Can you try mabinogi duel? i want to Know your toughts on that Game

[@BuzzaB77]

does he not understand that any 12 win deck must go through all the other numbers first? basic logic dude. you gotta get to 2 wins before you get to 12 you see.

[@nemtudom5074]

I dont think he does.

[@manakin2731]

Lmao u dont get it

[@iitopsii9906]

You look like kripps evil twin

[@PrimeKeroHS]

When he says that kind of stuff during the game, it's simple salt. Taking it literally and presuming he's got the brain capacity and ability to know that much = unlikely

[@danmullen1465]

I guess he meant a 12-0 deck.

[@andromidius]

Only solution is a complete rebalance of rarities and capping legendaries to one with a higher chance to get it (or 100%). But that's a huge amount of work, and I doubt Ben Brode wants to do it.

[@alpharaids7137]

Just played Mage with 4 faceless summoner and 2 portals very balanced indeed

[@DavidsonLoops]

They really have to do something about Mage, even if everything is deliberately imbalanced by design, the fact that yesterdays mage played spellslinger, sunfury protector 2 minions then bolster (created by spellslinger), while I got the worst spell in the game.

[@martymcfly5423]

7:54 "Dude, thats fucking bullshit" ^^

[@rosco3]

That's why I don't play arena, I am so unlucky that I won't get a single good deck and arena seems to purely depends on which deck is better and your card draws/opening hand that plus it being paid and I only do arena in my secondary account (still rarely)

[@tjh149]

They should do it where you open 'X' packs where you don't keep the cards and then you choose a hero based off of the cards you pull and then make a 30 card deck, easy

[@MrFirefox9999]

I bloody predicted that Deathwing lol I had a feeling it was going to be him

[@PedroFelix456]

I don't think cards should have a biger or lesser chance of beeing drafted based on their rarity, I think any card, even legendarys, should have an equal chance to be drafted at any point

[@isavedtheuniverse]

Taking inspiration from DOTA's random draft...what about arena not having classes but rather you get presented cards from all classes, and at the end you get to pick any one of the 9 hero powers available.

[@isavedtheuniverse]

And/or your first pick is always a legendary, then the next 4 are legendaries and the next 10 are rares.

[@ZedJay23]

Ben said that Blizzard was working on something that wouldn't rely on rarity.

[@ZedJay23]

For drafting that is.

[@marcusossowicki2729]

I just got a shaman arena run with a tier avarage of 72.5 with basically everything you could ask for except maybe a few boardclears, anyway... it ends up 2-3... the first game my opponent plays a turn 9 ysera and when I hex it it turns out the secret he played with kirin two turns earlier was counterspell, in my last game my opponent double eviscerated my earth elemental and then plays thaurissan followed by 3 comboed shadopans and a boulderfist and in my and on top of that I only got basic totems out of all the maybe 8 tuskarrs I played... wtf

[@prokoksu7226]

Kripp my friends sayed im fucking noob because i dont have any legend :/ and then! i bought 1 classic pack and i've got GOLDEN TYRION!!!

[@illyrianempire8417]

ok.

[@DesignbyGenjos]

I think i will take it

[@savedroknapp1926]

...and what happened next? We want the full story!

[@pamitri3752]

Legendaries don't mean you're good. It means you gut lucky. But you still can be good.

[@randolauren]

k.

[@NigelFortune]

The Arena mode is broken. Simples..