[Hearthstone] Shudderwock, the Wrongly Convicted

[@iiiikkarakudoge4969]

"Brode made Shudderwock who had no sin to be sin for us, so that in him, we might become the righteousness of Brode" - Krippathians 5;21

[@TheZombieslayer2002]

Sam Miller no this is krippathians

[@joeysung311]

Amen

[@looney4570]

HolyWaterino Kripperino please keep record of all the chapters and compile them into one document

[@iiiikkarakudoge4969]

I sincerely thought about 20min ago to create a website to regroup ALL of the Kripperino sentences. **The Holy Kripperino Bible**

[@TheBriguy1998]

DO IT

[@-drak-8274]

The only thing they should change is Shudderwock animations time

[@samscholey429]

Agreed

[@geebster.]

Just give the opposing player a skip animation button and like a summary in the log. That way the first time they encounter a new situation they can watch and learn.

[@NejatMolla]

And they should stop the battlecry voice-line after the first one. "My jaws that bite, my claws that catch" "My jaws that bite, my claws that catch" "My jaws that bite, my claws that catch" "My jaws that bite, my claws that catch" "My jaws that bite, my claws that catch" "My jaws that bite, my claws that catch"

[@geebster.]

Nejat Molla after the first one he should just say Kappa each time.

[@FatelDarkAssassins]

should just play epic sax after the first

[@kingcoism]

Good Luck: 8:11 Ooze won, got SLAMMED 9:21 Hero Power hit Primordial Drake 5:52 Opponent got healing totem instead of spell damage totem 5:13 Got Cornered Sentry for Drywhisker Armorer Bad Luck: 5:55 Lightning Storm hit for 3 on Tortollan Defender 7:52 Hero Power no SmOrc Net Luckiness: +2 Luckyrinos Lifetime Luckiness: +3 Luckyinos

[@pepinogrande6930]

I think Kripps right on this one. I also think people still haven't completely realized the potential of this card. What if you stop building your deck around it, and just put it in a midrange/aggro deck with few battlecrys to gain a high value lategame card? Maybe even a 2. finisher after Leeroy.

[@HrothgarHeavenlight]

Because people most time not follow what sane individualities say. Vide aggro remnants of old decks - pirate warriors etc.

[@sunnyhvar1992]

Gotta get that value from Leeroy's battlecry, man

[@pepinogrande6930]

Well if its the finisher it doesnt matter.

[@iandakariann]

Midrange would die to aggro though and shaman can't run an aggro build. And doing either slows down the wock finisher even more as you'll have to sacrifice card draw. Wock is the chun druid of the set. It rocked poorly made decks and... That's it. The animation should be attended to, probably just let people concede during it. That's probably it as far as what needs changing for shaman

[@sybriusart6137]

u can concede during the animations i do it when im up against a mirror match and they get their shudderwock off first

[@QuinnRiley360]

Shudderwock wouldn’t be that bad if it was faster. I feel like 90% of the problem is that it takes 5 years to complete the turn. Other than that it’s really not that bad? It’s slow, inconsistent, and overall, 2 turns to kill something that late in the game when the best you have is 2-3 6/6s is sort of...eh. If they have ANY presence on the board you lose.

[@sybriusart6137]

if u have promordial drakes battle cry in the pool they will have no board presence

[@vittoriomiotto2614]

i agree. i also think that in general you can't give people no option to skip animations entirely when you put time limit on turns. not being able to complete your play because every time an effect takes place the fucking bolt has to light up for example shouldnt be a thing in a competitive game.

[@QuinnRiley360]

sybrius art I mean, sure. The turn you’re going to win anyway. Otherwise you’d need to have everything at best at 4 hp, but if you had the time to play 2 primordial drakes AND shudderwock you don’t really need those battlecries anyway.

[@QuinnRiley360]

ScalperKnives I was just thinking about that too! So many animations take so damn long when there’s really no need for it. There’s a bunch of stuff that has random, completely arbitrary amounts of time between when you play and when it happens. Pyroblast is one of the best examples. It takes like 2-3 seconds after you cast it to do anything lol and a bunch of other things that just eat up time when it shouldnt

[@vittoriomiotto2614]

yeah. or think of all those yoggs that take so long you dont know how the board ends up before making decisions (like playing other cards or attacking with minions/hero).

[@TheAbyssness]

I don't think anyone complained about it being OP. They complained because it took 10minutes per turn of the same friggin nonsense brainless animations for them to achieve a board of 3-4 Shudderwocks. Wasn't fun to play against and quite honestly with the little time I have to play Hearth each day, I ended up conceding against shamans the second I heard; ironically "How long must this go on"

[@vittoriomiotto2614]

it's about time we adress the problem of long animations. it's not about shudderwock we should be angry about, instead we should be angry about how long animations take and how many times we get screwed up by the impossibility to skip them.

[@TheGamesaga]

A lot of retarded scrubs are actually thinking it's op and spamming i will stop playing hearthstone on reddit

[@loquek]

Visit hearthpwn, reddit slash anywhere and you'll see people saying it is OP... and they obviously haven't played the deck themselves... standard rank 25 trash : P

[@spooky4320]

I thought Toast had a 90% winrate on it

[@kekkres]

Spooky he did, in the first few hours of the game against a bunch of experemental decks

[@KrippsJuicyButthole]

He fused with Ben Brode

[@vonjynx]

Their bodies became one.. like true love

[@K6mil]

Not even his final form ...

[@ricardomilos10]

That has to be the most powerful person in the hearthstone lore

[@gira5759]

Sexy + Sexy = Smexy sexy smexiness

[@houssemsama1535]

Holy shit i will have nightmares for decades 😨😨😨

[@IsThisMeta]

Damn 3:00 AM Upload I should be in bed but I'm watching a card game statistic video

[@DRK0114]

i feel like kripp has been at this number of subs for like 2 years now

[@Immor7alBG]

DRK0114 maybe im wrong but i doubt the hearthstone playerbase has grown much in the last two years either. Could be wrong, picked it up after not playing for over a year.

[@khazarhay]

No 2 years ago he had 230k subs

[@E-A-Z-Y]

I know that feeling but I’ve been watching it rise, he was at 700k not that long ago.

[@YR2050]

He is at 650k a year ago.

[@slimpwarrior]

He has a ton more on twitch

[@alcazar9266]

i hate how hearthstone has just turned into "who can cheat out the biggest minion fastest?" with spiteful and cubelock

[@TheJamieellis]

Here's hoping they buff bgh back up to 3 mana :p

[@gregsmw]

i honestly think kobolds was the worst expansion to date every single deck that was spawned from it was entirely anti fun roulette garbage where the winner of every game is basicaly decided by who cheets out the bigger minion on turn 6 the majority of the kobolds cards were pretty mediocre but there were some cards that were just so far beyond the curve those decks (cube lokc aggro pally and spitefull decks) will be completly and totaly dominant untile they rotate out making future expansions meaingless unless they too have outrages bullshit if they are going to nerf any cards at all i think the NO1 cards on the list should be spitefull, the warlock weapon, possessed lackey, and if possible baku who has pushed aggro paly to a near unbeatable level

[@gluessb]

gregsmw that sounds almost exactly like you described Mean Streets of Gadgetzan.

[@Snight101]

that mechanic came about to stop aggro from destroying everyone though.

[@Drinkwithclass]

This is the problem with this game in EVERY expansion, It's like the designers create super crazy cards just to attract new players, then nerf the shit thay have created afterwards

[@mcginnercock6545]

Half of this video is krip talking and I freaking love it

[@rentabledwarf578]

Shudderwock's true win rate is probably lower than listed when you account for the people that concede as soon as it gets played so that they don't have to waste half an hour.

[@SkipperinoHS]

4:40

[@Frost059HD]

Skipperino Kripperino its 5 in the morning what the fuck. 10/10 beat me

[@michaelufer7854]

Skipperino is stepping up his game again, love your work!

[@wizardpatrick3142]

You a version skipperino from good game pocket

[@Roman-Sedykh]

Skipperino Kripperino a

[@peetakoutsos586]

This is why I love Kripp, he is able to honestly criticize and improve a game that he loves

[@eelshark12345]

The problem with Shudderwock is that nobody is trying to be creative about it. They're all just instantly using the combo Trump had explained and sticking to it. It's boring and once they play Shudderwock there isn't a whole lot you can do to stop them.

[@TheJamieellis]

I tried running a minion based one, meaning the point of it was to make a lot of shudderwocks to hit face. So, corpstaker battlecry giving him windfury, divine shield, lifesteal, taunt and the making more copies of him. I tried making a cthun shaman in wild, where you emperor down branns and SWs cost, play both, get essentially 3x the cthun buffs, and then drop a 45/45 cthun on them. Never managed to pull it off because everyone in wild is just playing a stronger dude pally with avenge in it, or a combo deck with a faster combo than me. HS really isn't fun right now :/

[@Wavinto]

eelshark12345 Yup, at a low rank all stupid kids that play the game are running the same decklist, gets so damn boring after some time

[@samscholey429]

BaronGaming I know I’m at rank 17 coz I like to play stupid decks, mainly my stone tusk boar otk, and every game I’m running into people playing the same tier 1, tier 2 net decks. It makes me wonder how these people running such broken decks are still at such low ranks.

[@samiksood789]

Jamie Ellis i managed to get my Cthun to 150/150 but never got to play it instead I wasted my time sitting their because I accidentally played all the one mana shudderwock s

[@monochromaticprism9373]

Jamie Ellis For the foreseeable future wild isn’t going to be particularly fun, and that will only increase with time. It is an unrestricted format where the only thing to do is try to win, meaning it will always be dominated by a bunch of very strong decks, and since the way hearthstone is set up fundamentally favors aggro, cool combos and likely all but the most powerful control will remain rank 20.

[@aizensosuke5749]

- Hey Blizzard, why is Cubelock so strong? - None of your business. Stop asking questions. Keep buying our packs.

[@Eggmancan]

I'm with you Kripp. My experience on ladder is totally diff from my experience on r/hearthstone. All anyone can complain about is Shudderwock, but I run into one of those decks maybe 1 in 20 games (if that). I run into a ton of Paladin (a variety of aggro versions), a fair amount of Warlock, and the various oddities people are still experimenting with (Hunter, Warrior, Rogue). Blizz just has to speed up the animation time and Shddrwk is fixed, but cubelock and dudadin are the decks really oppressing the meta

[@simon9902]

that golden Shudderwockerino head bouncing is so dank

[@SimonMester]

People complain about shudderwock because they dont measure their opinion by win percentages and matchups, and meta analysis, but by how FRUSTRATING something is. Shudderwock maxes that category out. Its frustrating how the combo is assembled, you have 0 interaction, you just watch as they play battlecries, without you having any effect on it, once assembled you watch animation for 30 minutes, during which, you guessed right, you have 0 interaction with the game. This is why people complain about shudderwock, and I will still rather do, instead of complaining about what deck has 49 and what deck has 55 win %.

[@d3lverofsecrats193]

I like how people complain about no interaction after losing a game and then go back to playing their baku hunter/pali on ladder. It sure is more interactive dragging your minion to the opponents face. Honestly I'd rather play against shudderwock than aggro pali it actually is way less frustrating because you can just concede once they start the combo so nobody forces you to watch 3 years of animation.

[@SimonMester]

You have your right to your opinion, I'm just saying why most people will disagree greatly.

[@rrteppo]

That's because most people don't know about the fact they can concede since they are used to face deck match ups where people die turn 4-5.

[@Solereaper21]

Welcome to hearthstone, the game where you literally don't need to pay attention on your opponents turn. This is the way it has always been and always will be.

[@christopherlee9026]

BUH MUH FEEFEEES!

[@alittlebirdi]

The saddest thing about shaman is how much they hyped Hagatha the Witch in the expansion announcement...and nooooobody uses it lol

[@lol24q]

Mr. Boling _ it’s great in murloc shaman

[@rrteppo]

it's actually an amazing card. Just no one uses it.

[@A1phaz0ne]

Because its tainted with RNG. The battlecry is amazing. But getting -RANDOM- shaman spells is not. You get fucked over hard if you get ANYTHING related to totems, because you can't generate totems as Agatha.

[@samiksood789]

The saddest thing is the disappointment that is the witchwood expansion I'm bored out of my mind I get that knc introduced cube and spiteful decks but atleast it wasn't boring

[@deamon6681]

Isn't her cauldron played in odd pally?

[@EliaGrady19]

At 4:29 you said shudderlock and I was immediately terrified.

[@claudiob_]

Got the notification for the video today, 6 days after release, gg KZbin

[@littlebigx1106]

The key of Shudderwock shaman is living long enough to draw the cards for your combo. Tar creepers, removal spells, plated beetles and any taunt minions are key for that.

[@frankbauerful]

If they nerf Shudderwock it proves once again that Blizzard's programmers are incompetent, because the problem are the animations. The only reason to nerf Shudderwock would be if their devs can't fix the animation issue. Which would be laughable. There are 100s of solutions suggested on the forums, from unsophisticated (skip animations button) to moderately sophisticated (speed up animations progressively with each card with a guaranteed max time for all of them).

[@samscholey429]

frankbauerful it should be easy. Tess greymanes’ Animation takes only about a second maybe 2, and it’s a practically identical battlecry to shudderwock’s. But for some reason they just felt the need to extend shudderwocks battlecry

[@dmarsub]

If they nerf it it only proves that the amount of people who cried about the deck being OP, is way too high.

[@arithmagendergender594]

frankbauerful it's not the coders it's the the designers who make it a long animation

[@Jonseredi]

Wait if somebody was able to kill Kripp with Quest Rogue on turn 5 why don't we have a highlight of that? That's an actual achievement nowadays!

[@Liger_Rusto]

Because he always shows cherrypicked examples to "prove his point" "See, Shudderwork is so bad, it even loses against control decks who is supposed to be a good matchup"

[@roxorsoxor]

THAT THING ON KRIPP'S STAGE LEFT EYE IS KILLING ME

[@omnislash85]

The shaman shudderwock deck is so shit to watch on stream.

[@raver377]

alot of decks are shit to watch on stream. that doesnt mean its a deck that should be nerfed etc

[@amogus7978]

vhaelen he didn't even mention nerfs wtf

[@raver377]

oh excuse me? did i say he mentioned nerfs? because i didnt

[@ohyeahyeah2384]

vhaelen I think you should go and see a doctor.

[@jesustheangryatheist]

It was funny the first time

[@outroidearinokripperino5785]

David Bowie - The Man Who Sold The World

[@SheepShade]

Outro Idearino Kripperino I would actually prefer the Nirvana version here

[@wo0o0ow69]

this is the best thumbnail lol . FYI the added new cards to the dungeon run

[@modernkennnern]

The problem is not the win rate, it's the round timer. Fix the animation speeds, and nobody (genuinely) would complain about it.

[@Rikasa_chan]

Since it didn't made it into the video, here is everyone's favorite line: My jaws that bite, my claws that catch!

[@raver377]

they should add an option where you can choose between foll lenght animations and fast ones. if you can switch that mid match you can still enjoy the animations during normal matches but when you notice your opponent plays shudderwock for example you simply go for the sped up animations and be fine

[@FunkyM217]

Oh, Kripperino, Captain Kirk never believed in the No-win Scenario, and neither should we.

[@comradepatrick8539]

Blizarrd: we feel that shaman is extremely underpowerd, so were turning shuderwok into a common, 4 mana 7/7 that reads ( destroy opponents life points), and hagatha into a 1 mana 1/3 that reads ( turn 4 kill), we feel these changes are necassary for a more even and fin playthrough

[@Devfede]

You missed the main point. Shudderwock issue is not balance, its just another otk with a long setup. The issue is the time it fucking takes. 10 minutes long turns cmon..

[@rrteppo]

they put a surrender button in the game for a reason. I know you're used to 3 minute face games, but still.

[@adderous]

Yeah, no. The answer to a card taking ten minutes to complete its animation is not "well just concede then". It's something that needs to be fixed, not only for shudderwock but for other cards like it. This problem shows up all the time; the animations they have are not built to deal with massive amounts of triggers. Hell, you even see problems with cards like volcano when there's an acolyte or frothing berserker on the board. It's something that needs to be fixed.

[@swolegolisopod7340]

VengfulDarkness you're probably the kind of person that uses it after your opponent plays call to arms on turn 3. Honestly though if I lose to exodia mage I let them fireball me to death because I know how good it feels to be in that end. But no one wants to sit through 5 years to let someone combo out with no interaction. I know it's not mtg but at least you have countermagic to deal with combo there. The problem aside from long ass animations imo is no interaction beyond trying to mill wock with the coldlight oracle they just removed from standard.

[@alexqwerty5354]

As with any other combo deck, the interaction is beat the shit out of them before they can play combo.

[@zacnyberg641]

K so when they made shudder wock. I’m assuming they made it to be a controlled yog. Mabye with a bunch of dmg spells or minion ramping the whole board. But I doubt they expected this lol. And to those who keep saying they added a surrender button... wtf. How the hell is thAt a reason. To justify a card you say just quit. If a card is made to literally just quit it shouldn’t exist. I get actually genius decks that troll you. But 1 card shouldn’t be literally what concede means. It should be a combo. If you mill or burn shutter this deck dies. Not the same entirely with other concedes

[@absolutetacosgaming3360]

"There will NEVER be a control meta..." - Kripp, 2017 -

[@DaddyDoodleDay]

Salty or not, you're a boss Kripp.

[@Frost059HD]

5 AM uploads. Nice Krippy!

[@traviswoolston8108]

Anyone else find Kripparrian’s voice oddly calming?

[@bernardosilva7306]

I think there is a simple "fix" for Shudderwock, just change the trigger or text to something like "if played from your hand...", so, it would not re-trigger if copied by Saronite.

[@RichD2024]

Kripp is spot on. After two hours on ladder yesterday playing 80% aggro Paladin, 20% Warlock, there's just no point. There's not enough removal in the game to deal with Paladins endless board flood, and Warlock now has enough heal and card draw to survive long enough to do the same. You have no chance if you try to play anything else. This expansion only made the two top decks stronger.

[@erich1380]

Getting taunt quest done at turn six is insane holy shit

[@Anonym-mh7sz]

wow u drew your cards on curve and he was onlucky and had an unoptimised deck. so great play!

[@vvav]

Shudderwock needs to have its animations sped up. Actually, no, wait. Every card in this game needs to have its animations sped up.

[@Mr91Jmay]

Give me Shudderwock over aggro Paladin

[@sparklingicetea9410]

Joe May Pls don't. I like to play control.

[@imo098765]

The only good control decks are Taunt Warrior and Controlock that both can shit on Shudderwock

[@A1phaz0ne]

Really? Just play druid with 2x Spreading plague. Aggro still gets completely curb stomped by it.

[@Mr91Jmay]

Paladin has a 66% win rate against Druids.

[@Anonym-mh7sz]

i beat taunt warrior more often than it defeats me as a shudderwock shaman. get your combo in your first 20 cards and you are fine. and thats pretty average.

[@RedwoodTheElf]

The shudderwock isn't that bad IF you don't have a grumble. They just need to reword Grumble's battlecry to "Return all friendly creatures that don't share the name of this minion to your hand. They cost 1."

[@eezys]

Your opponent is Pista. It is esentially, Steve. Laughing in hungarian.

[@eyezonHim]

I find steal priest to be quite good actually. Getting through the early bit against aggro is possible with small clears and then vs control you just take all their good cards. :)

[@gferrol118]

My jaws that bite, my claws that catch!

[@someone-yw2qw]

" shudderwock will get out of control if control gets back and stuff"kripp 2018

[@peterdafox]

People don't care about broken decks. Just about cards that feel bad to lose to. It's not even a "cheap" combo compared to other shit we have. It just takes too long in game so people hate it.

[@rrteppo]

it's a really interesting combo because it takes 5 cards minimum, and requires you don't run battlecry card draw outside of Sanddreamer because you can make the only cards it pulls combo cards.

[@swolegolisopod7340]

VengfulDarkness exodia mage took playing 6 cards that didn't start in your deck, and 5 cards not counting the Time Warp.

[@tobias97erdt]

Hey kripp have you tried murloc shaman using shudderwock as a hand refresher after megafin? i really does well against conrol and is decent meanwhile against aggro

[@DrAnimePhD]

Shudderwock isn’t the problem. Grumble is.

[@giannisxouliaras5672]

That was actually a very good meta report tbh i feel he is right about everthing he said so lets wait 2 months or so for team 5 to "balance" the game while we go face or play cubelock....

[@ReploidWars]

I use shudderwock with elementals. Feels like playing the rod of roasting 😂😂🔥🔥🔥

[@snickers759]

I see shudderwock kinda like the barnes yshaarj decks from pre witchwood. The deck depends on your deck order.

[@crobdog]

Yesterday - "if this deck can deal with aggro it'll be t1" Today - "guys this deck is bad honest"

[@doubledoverfishing67]

Hey Kripp, love your videos! Shudderwock should be played like C'Thun! Everytime you play a battlecry shudderwock pops up, then when you play it all of it will be much faster. I like playing shudderwock but on ladder it is trash. The only way i can get high in ladder is either paladin or warlock. I like playing with and against them but its getting hold quick. Other classes ate fun to play! What do you think?

[@mateuscarvalho9584]

Baku or Tess ? Which should I craft?

[@Barit555]

I've been slaying with Kripps quest control warrior.

[@robertlupa8273]

That explains why I was doing so well as Aggro (I guess) Paladin.

[@TohoEggbirb]

It seems to me that his jaws will only bite the dust soon

[@SaHaRaSquad]

I kinda agree. At first Shaman was played all the time while recently it's much harder to see a Shudderwock player and they usually lose. I managed to beat multiple Shudderwock shamans with pretty slow decks. First of all many people don't have quite all the necessary cards for the Shudderwock combo(e.g. Grumble) or are forced to play Shudderwock early to not get destroyed, and in these cases Shudderwock is manageable.

[@nintendonchill]

new camera is really guud

[@fakenate2414]

So true, cubelock and aggro paladin dominated the meta for months, and a new expansion is released and they still dominate the meta, a breath of fresh air would be nice

[@LRibeiro97]

Just to throw in my 2 cents: The ideia that shudderwock should RETURN THE HAND (grumble BC) the copies it makes from itself (Saronite BC) it's stupid and the cause of the problem. No one would be complaining if shudderwock would just fill the board with some 6/6s, do some damage to oponents face and heal some health. The fact that it puts copies back in hand not only causes the problem, but it is ilogical. A Battlecry is a battlecry. When he was played, there was nothing on board to return, period. If a minion a battlecry that said: "Summon a 1/1 wisp. Return all minions to hand" The 1/1 should not leave the board. Obviously you shouldn't battlecry something that is coming into existence as the battlecry is hapenning. Shudderwock is just a really really long battlecry, but the principle applies.

[@AugustusOBS]

They will NOT nerf the animation times, Ben Brode said he wants it to be very clear to new players what battlecry is happening and how it affects the board. This means taking the time for every card and effect to be shown.

[@jamesricherson7233]

Thank you for this I fully agr e with u I am 0 and 4 with my shudderwalk deck and I have only loss to one shaman sense the release

[@MrEricThomason]

Witchwood release has been underwhelming in arena too. I have done 5 runs with various classes, and each time I end up with around 3 Witchwood cards in my deck and my opponents aren't really playing any of the new cards either.

[@horner385]

My jaws that bite, my claws that catch

[@noah1535]

I honestly don't see any problem with Shudderwock apart from ridiculous turn times. It's just a combo deck like many in the past. Just speed up the animations by a whole lot so turns don't take 10+ minutes

[@SmallsMalone]

Shudderwock is a marketing strategy and it's working.

[@Thevideogamejoker]

Toast had 95 percent win rate with shudderwock when he hit legend lol

[@brentonstephenson333]

Shudderwock Video? Never clicked faster in my life

[@SirKevin89]

Shudderwock for Smash.

[@madmanlucina]

And if he gets the smash ball he shouts about his jaws for 20 minutes

[@stillprophet7529]

So I made this Shudderwock deck that has a selfface heal and an enemy freeze battlecry instead of lifedrinker. The point is literally just to generate infinitely long turns and decks and I fucking love it. You basically break the game or force your opponent to concede there's no other option

[@nachoneitzscheese]

People complain about how you can't interact with Shudderwock, but you can by killing the shaman before they combo off, or by hitting the concede button once they play Shudderwock.

[@handlenotprovided]

"The only decks that are winning are the ones that were already out" The expansion *just* came out. Most people don't buy 100 packs of cards every expansion.

[@akata007]

The nerf is definitely not because of its win rate. I think it's really due to its Saronitesque interaction -- how it eats up the opponents turn which is unfair. Plus, I think its battlecry still works even after it dies? I think of it as a pre-nerf Yogg aka Our Lord and Savior where it didn't even have such a high win rate yet it got nerfed because of, again, "interactions". Now I wonder why they haven't fixed Scroll of Wonders which is literally broken (returns dead minions to your hand, target Brawl'd minions, etc.).

[@steelblake]

Why would someone change the control warlock? Is pretty cheap compared to other control decks and pretty eficient

[@guccimanes_left_sock]

I dig the new camera

[@vlexi349]

Shudderwock is super fun. Hope they just fast forward the animations.

[@Absynthexx1]

TIL the strategy to beating shudderwock is to have your opponent not draw it. Thanks kripp! I'll try that!

[@npviking]

is the shudderwock battlecry the issue or is it the animations that are taking 10 minutes to finish?

[@Razento25]

in wild. what if you played Yogg..then shudderwock?

[@pmsherndon]

Hit the nail on the head with the meta. I had been saying since all the Witchwood cards came out that Witchwood would do very little, if nothing to the current meta. Turns out I was right

[@AB-dg2tb]

Whats that thing on his right eyelid?

[@salon9417]

Looking at Shudderwock now I get a weird sensation of Lakkari Sacrifice Kappa

[@emilemil1]

Yes, Shudderwock is not the biggest problem, but it is still something worth looking into because it's a super polarizing deck similar to Quest Rogue. Aggro beats it almost 100% of the time, and control (aside from Cubelock) loses to it almost 100% of the time (that guy Kripp played against in the video was terrible). There are also literally zero tech cards you can use in a control deck to help with the matchup. Game health and game balance are two different problems, but both are important for the enjoyment of the game. I expect Paladin to be easily beatable with some tech choices, some cheap AoE to handle the swarm, so I definitely wouldn't touch that class right now. Warlock for example has a 63% winrate against Paladin. Warlock on the other hand does deserve changes because not only is the deck strong, there are very few good counters to it. Even if I build my deck to 100% counter Warlock, I still lose like 35-40% of my games because it's so hard to counter everything broken that class is doing at the moment. The only class to consistently beat Warlock is Hunter, but do we really want a glorious meta of Cubelock vs. Face Hunter?

[@top115]

the Shudderwock card image is mirroring kripps face movement ^^

[@Correctitudable]

Fine with me, I got a golden one and am not super keen on the deck. 3200 dust for me?

[@imreeszenyi9675]

Pista is the short version for ,,Stephen,, in Hungarian :D

[@OMFGcataFAN1]

i havent heard any complaints about shudderwock for a while except the fact that it can drag the game out for hours. which is a problem.

[@grasthube]

the issue is that he stacks with himself. if the card would say "Battlecry: repeat all the battlecries etc etc, EXCEPT this one"

[@beardedaxelive]

Habatha (or whatever) and shudderwock is actually pretty effective vs cubes

[@monochromaticprism9373]

The only reason I don’t like it is that it is a counter to control decks in a similar vein to jades. You can pretty much just play stuff without having to actually keep any cards ( outside 1) in hand to set up the combo, allowing you to compete much more aggressively for board as opposed to relying on stall and board controls. Right now it’s biggest weakness is a lack of good draw/cycle compared to past successful combo decks. It just needs a few better tools for consistency and it will become extremely problematic.

[@andrejjelcic3675]

Fellow people in the comments, Kripp is right. The only thing that is wrong with Shudderwock is the long animation timing. The true problem is the lack of new but strong deck options because of the new year and all that... arena is also messed up for the same reason though not as much as standard. Honestly imagine if it stays just warlock vs paladin for another 4 months. So they should somehow make Cubelock and Dudadin retire to make room for the new guys. ... Also u should all just chill. Time will make everything more clear and probably better.

[@lalujuriosa]

my jaws that AhaaAhaha, my claws that HahahHaah

[@Curranius]

Kripp Brode is fucking terrifying...

[@kylelovett8737]

The problem with shudder is that it straight up dunks on control decks. Therefore that pushes even more people to play aggro. The issue is it makes the aggro problem even worse.