(Hearthstone) UNDEFEATED BLOOD CONTROL - March of the Lich King

(March of the Lich King Theory Crafting) Blood Control Death Knight VS Death Knight, Rogue, and Mage
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[@neawortaha5500]

Kibler playing against Dane's absurd decks is exactly what I needed

[@qwertylello]

Finally the crossover episode we were all looking forward to

[@dodododatdatdat]

y that was an epic game. I saw it was Dane and was like ooohhhh its that guy ;)

[@nightshade6084]

Can we appreciate in that first game, all three patchworks killed only body baggers in the decks. That’s dedication

[@EebstertheGreat]

Patchwerk hates body baggers because they steal valuable corpses.

[@Infinity-0033]

Fun fact - if you start your comment with “can we appreciate…” you’ll greatly increase your likes. If you take that phrase out and start with “in that first game…” it’d have 3 likes

[@nightshade6084]

@@Infinity-0033 at least it wasn’t some “kibler’s hard work” bot comment, I’m just trying to give kudos to Patchwerk’s work ethic

[@Infinity-0033]

@@nightshade6084 okay, it’s just a copy paste phrase used plenty more than what doesn’t annoy me. Really feels out of place many times. Can we appreciate that I see that clearly

[@nightshade6084]

@@Infinity-0033 i can, so you my friend have earned a like

[@165_josephlcna3]

*plays corpse explosion* opponent with epilepsy : *+1 corpse*

[@danilkinilya1242]

I'm scared of Dane. If he can pull this in standard with DR rogue, his wild version definitely would be even more busted

[@GhealachAlt]

14:09 "They managed to eat my As-talore" LMAO

[@kevincorkum2147]

I am dyyyyyying xDD

[@donaldstarkey3364]

i had to check to see if i wasn't the only one lmao, im glad.

[@andrewheyd8429]

Lol came to comment the same thing

[@Zach-sx8cm]

@@donaldstarkey3364 i checked too as im lmao'ing

[@uri8107]

"...That's actually Potentially a problem" XD

[@Tinil0]

The main thing I realized from this is that random spell generation as a DK is really, really interesting because it can get you rune cards not in your deck. I'll have to remember that.

[@MakCuMyM1]

1.game 0:00 - 17:04 : "How long can this go on ?" 2.game 17:20 - 24:42 "Don`t feel pressured, friend" 3.game 25:06 - 32:00 "No hands, lights out"

[@fabe61]

If there’s a lot of long control v control games, then Reno isn’t even that bad of an idea. Savjz put Reno in his Mill Rogue (a long time ago) with great effect because the deck could reliably draw all of its duplicates. I know tech cards are generally the worst cards in a deck, but that’s less relevant when you have 40 cards.

[@DemagogueBibleStudy]

This deck can’t reliably draw all of its duplicates.

[@Miinow]

Reno is simply too slow nowadays and seems to just delay the inevitable. Without Jailer it would see zero play. The problem is that even if it heals for 30-40, it does nothing for board state nor create any value. You will be better off by replacing it with another control card and not sacrificing duplicates.

[@SuperGamerNinja74]

One of the surprising things about the modern game is that the worst aspect of running a Reno like that might actually be hand space. Draw power/card generation is so high that having a dead card in your hand can legitimately really limit you, even if your game plan is slow control.

[@yenthewitch]

Not sure I like the new card frame or the new animated hero thing, but the new set looks cool at least!

[@Satherian]

In the second game, I was so excited to see that Kibler was playing against Dane. The dude's the goat Edit: Dane did not disappoint

[@thecookiemeister5374]

The reason people are saying ashbringer sucks is because in wow, it’s an absolutely legendary weapon. In this game, it’s pretty mundane.

[@BecauseImAwesome73]

“Eat my Astalor” made me laugh harder than it should have

[@rilvayn2577]

Came here to see who else caught it. Wasn't disappointed.

[@florianklatte6186]

What a delightful party...

[@bones4464]

Would love to play this deck during release. Control is my goto in every deck.

[@Wilsbourne]

Hey Brian. The Expansion is called "March of the Lich King", not "Wrath of the Lich King" :) EDIT: Cool, you fixed it

[@Uchihamadarazx]

what a fun deck to play with. will we be getting the code for it in the future?

[@Guitarmonade]

14:09 LMAO

[@brogoyle]

gehehehehehehehehehehe

[@omgfro]

I knew someone would catch it

[@IFrozenPrideI]

Do you happen to have a deck list for the deck used in the video? Would like to try this when it's released.

[@leventeemesz3857]

Deck list doesnt recognize the new cards yet

[@trucro83]

What's the essence cost for this deck? This is like control warrior but on steroids

[@roykeane1922]

Just like when they introduced demon hunter, see you in a few weeks for the nerf when no other class can compete

[@ahaholala]

friYAY!

[@residentofchromatica4787]

They managed to eat your WHAT?!

[@Charibolt]

can't say i agree with kibler on the animated portraits. they look so out of place

[@damienfernando1553]

yeah i agree

[@VerbotenDonkey]

Same. I like the idea behind it but the art direction doesn't match the Warcraft style. If it did, I think it wouldn't be met with so much criticism.

[@Intestine_Ballin-ism]

That, and they literally have to move the damage numbers from the portrait and "pause" the game every time damage is dealt just so they can show off the animation. One thing is when you have cool animations, the other is when there's a coded-in delay lmao

[@arcuscotangens]

They look horrid.

[@TheSquareOnes]

Agree, and I also don't care for diamond or the new grayscale art cards. I get the appeal of fancy variants but when they don't match anything around them it's usually just ugly (plus the animations can be distracting at times in addition to looking silly in a low-action card game), if you could have an entire deck in this style it might be fine but having just a hero or a couple random legendaries look completely out of place is a very odd aesthetic decision. It sells though so we're probably just going to keep seeing weirder and weirder cosmetics, it's a lot easier to slap a $20-30 price tag on some flashy art than to make a balanced game so it makes a sad amount of sense that this is the direction they're chosen.

[@Rawbherb]

14:09 they managed to WHAT

[@darkjackl999]

What happens if a rogue starts as a lich king, can they get corpses? (Or are they not able to)

[@Aldrius]

They should be able to. But then they lose them when they reveal themselves.

[@jrksjrks]

But can they steal corpse cards if they only play neutral cards and steal with Theo? That's the real question.

[@Aldrius]

@@jrksjrks that should work honestly.

[@Kit_Legris]

Kinda feel like the game is overkill about the new class rn. Portraits are too much to my taste, many cards feel way too strong, dude going to 70 max HP, drawing a lot, healing way too much, it looks pretty unfair. I hope it won't do like when DK was out and make you wonder why play any of the old classes at all.

[@schippes24]

Don't worry my friend, druid will still be the king of the hill..

[@NoobTheMexicanNinja]

@@schippes24 hahaha actually so true

[@TheSquareOnes]

It's pretty clear that their entire business strategy at this point is to just push as much power creep and cosmetics as possible until people stop showing up. It's sad what they've done to this great game but the writing is on the wall, this seems like a really good time to bail since it's less likely than ever before that they'll be able to dial things back after adding another new class with "do everything, but better" as an identity.

[@Nortrin]

❤

[@Querterus]

i feel like the new class is a "little bit" (LOT) to strong. in red the +10hp and draw and the 2dmg aoe at the end of turn with livesteal in blue the mana cheat great weapon and green ... yeah its zoo its ok i guess prob better then the other zoo decks out there but i belive the weakest of the 3

[@cschrsore]

Against Concotion-Rogue?

[@burakylmaz3489]

i really dont understan why people not considering blood tap as corpse consumer, its free buff even if is not worth for building around. like double blood top makes your muncher 9 10 lifesteal giant at worst

[@Max-zs6ur]

what is blood top?

[@davidlovesyeshua]

When people talk about corpse consumption, they're referring to when they have 10/20/40+ corpses in the late game and they want a card that can make use of them. Blood tap takes up a card draw, you have to play it for 2 mana but after you've gotten the 2 or whatever corpses, and then if you're only hitting 1 muncher, a couple rando minions, and something you're saving for the right moment where the buff isn't very relevant (like Soulstealer or Denathrius), it's just not really worth it. I've been seeing games where people are hero power passing multiple turns because they already don't have enough early game corpses for Vampiric Blood, or this video had Kibler passing up on playing an active Vamp Blood to save corpses mid-game for Corpse Explosion. Blood Tap is a mid-game card that competes with the limited early/mid game corpse generation Control Blood DK already struggles with, not a late-game mass corpse payoff.

[@burakylmaz3489]

@@davidlovesyeshua huge explanation why it can be irrelevent , i agree most part, but , i said it already , in some cases card itself better than for aspxyciate , or better than 3 2 weapon. like i said its not a card for build around but i ll definetely consider it as replacement in some cases. it ll not be early game tool replecament, i would rather say it is another control mecahnism as a big board creator in mid game through late game, rather tapping hero power

[@burakylmaz3489]

@@davidlovesyeshua also i agre , blizz could make mograine like " if u have 10 corpse double dmg" , but what i ll tryng to make it work, utilizing corpses in mid game and convert em to tempo

[@Aldrius]

Blood tap is more of a midrange card. Probably in a UBB build where you can get those nerubians and some corpse generation.

[@natterbrot]

Isn't the set called March of the Lich King? Video title says Wrath..

[@KhaPha]

Branding. You don't want to make it exactly the same, but an homage to prevent confusion

[@natterbrot]

@@KhaPha I was referring to the video title

[@KhaPha]

@@natterbrot oh yeah I see it now lol

[@BIacklce]

brain is still stuck on the WoW expansion

[@creationzikaz4836]

How come you manage to play early? Isn’t the release in the fifth?

[@Dasheara]

He's playing on a special account. You can see in the first game he's getting the first time player tutorials (like why he has a coin). For a few expansions, at least, Blizzard has been running a sort of preview, having people (streamers, etc) use throwaway accounts with everything unlocked and a requirement for their decks (must have at least 10 cards from the new expansion) to up the hype before release.

[@bumponalog5001]

I can't believe you like the portrait, it looks soooo bad and out of place. I wish there was a setting to disable seeing them.

[@Gameknight4444]

“They managed to eat my astalor”

[@draachen]

Why not add Reno Jackson? Restoring 59 HP sounds like fun.

[@DemagogueBibleStudy]

Dead card in 99% of games but pretty funny.

[@basvanderwerff2725]

cause that means removing all duplicates? wich means he has to add a bunch of neutrals cause there not enough cards in DK that can go in a triple blood deck... not to mention reno is horrible since there no other highlander support cards

[@challengingfate6569]

Isn't it weird that a minion summoned by Visage takes dmg if the opponent has a weapon but other interactions where minions hit face due to their effect don't? In fact, why isn't this concept consistent across the board? Meaning, when minions hit the face with a weapon equipped they take the dmg as if you struck with the face. It's peculiar now that I think about it.

[@blahthebiste7924]

It is consistent. Your weapon is equipped during your turn. It is "sheathed" during your opponent's turn. While it is equipped, you have bonus attack, and thus can counterattack. While it is sheathed, you do not.

[@Aldrius]

@@blahthebiste7924 Makes sense but it's a really weird interaction. That makes an eh card worse.

[@blahthebiste7924]

@@Aldrius It is weird, since "sheathing" is never explained anywhere in the game.

[@challengingfate6569]

@@blahthebiste7924 Thank you kind stranger. Wow that's a detail so subtle it never occurred to me. Nor have I ever heard it referencing as 'sheathing'. Aptly named. Kudos to you sir/lady.

[@challengingfate6569]

referenced*

[@ammaammo4692]

10:23 6 mana theotar HAHAHAHA

[@ratpongkraiwiwat5988]

Feel like corpse count mechanic needs to be shared between 2 death knights as competitive resources. It doesn't make much sense to raise 2 undeads from 1 corpse.

[@basvanderwerff2725]

that whould be a horrible design

[@Kratatch]

Mograin is broken.

[@UserDisconnected]

Hey dont say boom, you might be targeted by criminals.

[@LabTech41]

This class and deck look so good that I almost hate it, because everyone and their mother is going to be spamming this class for months, to the point that any novelty and wonder regarding its capabilities will be lost in a sea of mediocre net decks. This class has been a long time coming, since basically as far back as Naxxramas, but there's a part of me that's going to regret that it happened finally. I just hope the other classes get enough in this expansion that the crystallized metas are at least balanced enough so that DK doesn't predominate.

[@joshdimaggio5764]

As much as I'm excited for DK, being honest this class has absolutely NOTHING to keep up with the better decks in diamond or legend (I only play wild though) too slow to be aggro, not enough early cheap mass removal to keep up with aggro as a control deck, and doesn't draw/discount enough to out combo druid/mage/rogue, the class is fine but it'll take some time for its archetypes to be refined

[@jean-philippetremblay8588]

@@joshdimaggio5764 It's kind of retarded to compare this class and it's decks to classes and decks in Wild since it obviously has nowhere the same card pool.

[@joshdimaggio5764]

@@jean-philippetremblay8588 I mean I only play wild, so my opinion is only relevant there lol

[@udipalles9649]

legendary portraits looks horrible, and it's "animations" are minimal and ridiculous. Incredible people pays for this scam.

[@BIacklce]

20 dollary-doos for 4 repeated animations, 3 of which appear to not loop correctly

[@monosophy691]

Idk. It doesnt seem like this guy to be promoting extravagant, self-destructive wastes of money in the tcg space

[@udipalles9649]

@@monosophy691 he says he likes it, he doesnt have to care about 20 bucks spent being a whale.

[@monosophy691]

@@udipalles9649 Oh, sorry, should have been clear, this was a joke about a one thousand dollar garbage magic the gathering product that he recently helped promote. Yeah the skin looks like shit

[@Tom_Brouwers]

Jeez there werent enough graphics on your screen yet without the Lich King border? At least now I can't see the goal trackers anymore :P. No but seriously this amount of clutter on the screen makes me uncomfortable so I'm gonna click away after writing this comment, even though the content is usually allright.

[@bmkibler]

That was an overlay blizzard sent us to use for the theorycrafting streams

[@creationzikaz4836]

That rogue deck was such bullshit. Holy.

[@onekoff8480]

Undefeated? Rarran would like to disagree.

[@dude11235]

Raran is a lil puss

[@onekoff8480]

@@dude11235 Dude (literally dude), you can't even spell his name right. Also, OTK decks he faced would wipe Brian too.

[@dude11235]

@@onekoff8480 I met raran irl and he was asuch a coward, I threatened him and he called the police so I had to leave, lmao

[@onekoff8480]

@@dude11235 Classic Rarran. At least he's not a quitter, though.

[@ZoltozGaming]

March of the Lich King*

[@JagEterCoola]

Theotar being 6 mana is yikes.

[@lucaslanza4294]

Damn that hero is horrible af

[@danieltaom]

Another expansion, another handful of busted decks that roll over everything. At least I'm not spending money on this game anymore.

[@fabe61]

And yet you’re still salty about it somehow.

[@purpleaki06]

Still crying about it for some reason though yeh?

[@TheSquareOnes]

@@fabe61 Uh yeah, when people invest in a CCG for years (up to a full decade at this point) then they tend to be pretty upset when the game devolves so much that they can no longer enjoy using their collection. If this is a difficult concept to grasp then no wonder you're fine with the current state of the game.

[@danieltaom]

@@TheSquareOnes pretty much. I still play the game. Have lots of dust. I think United in Combo is where I really started to crack. I'll play some but I'll be damned if they're gonna get $80 outta me!