Heartstopper Season 2 Reaction - Episode 2 | GROUNDED???

[@femkemiedema8281]

I love how Josh and Alex would be complete opposite parents

[@meganmcleod6152]

definitely

[@alyssasanchez6745]

Yesss I love that

[@1Lanavis1]

It is fun seeing their differing opinions

[@brocksavage4322]

No Spoilers here, but the issue with Charlie's mom isn't what she is saying but the way she's doing it. Making Charlie focus on his schoolwork isn't wrong. But the thing is that she is so cold. Especially in Ep 1, when Charlie tells his parents that Nick is his boyfriend, there is no "how nice" or "we're happy for you". There was just silence. She feels like one of those people for whom love is conditional. It explains a lot about why Charlie feels so unworthy of love and is so anxious. It kind of explains why Tori is so shut down emotionally as well.

[@graphiquejack]

All of the Springs are quite controlling and overprotective. It’s passed down from parents to children. With the parents I agree at least with Jane it’s distant and cold, even if she does genuinely care deep down that her kids do well and succeed. In Tori and Charlie’s cases, they are fiercely protective of those they love, but frequently neglect their own needs in the process.

[@AmyAberrant]

I was so mad that neither of his parents supported him or said they were happy for him! Their immediate reaction was punishment, that just means that he won’t open up to them.

[@musicalprodigy126]

Thank you for putting this into words bc I’ve been unable to verbalize why she rubs me the wrong way. It’s that parental mentality of “I’m not gonna cheer you on for doing what you’re supposed to do anyways.” It’s the callousness with which she says things that would absolutely cause someone with anxiety (that already feels like a burden) to shut down emotionally. It’s true that she would ground any of her kids for missing their coursework, but to be so cold about his relationship with Nick (even before she knew about the coursework) is troubling.

[@ccasserole5267]

I like that S2 is expanding the themes of mentorship and parenthood present in S1 in a more nuanced way. Particularly, we see how parents' treatment of their kids influences the ways said kids view themselves and how they navigate their interpersonal relationships, for better or worse. For Tao, having an open conversation with his mom is the impetus for him opening up to both himself and others about his feelings. For Charlie, his parents' emotional neglect and domineering attitude exacerbates his own coping mechanisms of self neglect. For Darcy, her mother's invalidation of her lesbian identity leads to her feeling "fake" in her lesbian relationship with Darcy.

[@michellebarry1555]

That’s a really good point! About Tori!

[@thegabrielhyde]

“No one’s died yet” Tao and his mum: are we a joke to you?

[@PokhrajRoy.]

9:11 “Did he just come out of prison?” is one of the best lines I’ve heard 😂

[@danieloneal7137]

Not prison, just Glasgow.

[@johnking5174]

The scene when David meets Charlie for the first time was directed and filmed perfectly. They gave the viewer a tiny bit of hope, because when David introduces himself to Charlie, he was very polite. But that all vanished quickly when the real asshole comes through. But, for a tiny amount of time, they gave the viewer a feeling that David might actually be nice, and then whipped it away.

[@kkyulmin]

I LOVE how Nellie growled at David the moment he came into the room. If a sweet dog like her clearly doesn’t like someone they’re definitely not a good person.

[@guillermosfamiliar]

This season has been so validating for me to watch. I’ve never seen bi-erasure discussed so well or bisexuality really portrayed so unapologetically ❤

[@Einnaginivir]

Starting with David : "hi pretty boy" to "he's annoying" and finally "GET IT OUT & "QUEERPHOBIA"!!! What a journey for us during this episode 😱 I have to say that in Ep2, I hate David as much as I hate Ben for how they hurt Nick and Charlie 🥺💔

[@celkontos7754]

Has anyone else ever pointed out that Josh could be the love child of Nick and Charlie? Lol

[@sophiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiie]

oh yes, lol😳

[@tommiller3017]

But they would have to consumate their relationship first.

[@numtwelve12]

Hahahaha I was thinking the same thing

[@edc1657]

The lack of thirst when Nick was shirtless highlights how much the episode took it's toll on you, lol. Love you guys ❤

[@graphiquejack]

That was so gratuitous and so necessary at the same time. Thank you, Alice and Euros. Lol

[@lorenzoguerrero7520]

​@@graphiquejack Well technically, in the novels, after showering, Nick is always shirtless and in boxers. The pyjama bottoms are for modesty.

[@Gaspar314]

It’s kinda wrong for them to thirst over a high school boy, isn’t it?

[@celly589]

I wish you would’ve left in the part of Tao and his mom talking about losing the dad/husband. It literally explains why he’s so scared of losing people in his life

[@canny_linguist]

My heart shattered when Tao explained that's why he's afraid of being left behind

[@graphiquejack]

Josh is right. Charlie is doing poorly in school presently because he’s spending all his time helping Nick with his classes. Which is lovely, and impressive considering Nick is a year ahead, but Charlie does need to learn to balance things and take care of himself also.

[@tommiller3017]

And on the final day for Charlie to finish his paper, he helps Nick and lies that his paper is done. While he did get it in the last moment, he may not get a good grade.

[@madsunrises]

Reminder to everyone: don't spoil anything for them!

[@canny_linguist]

A few points to take away: 1. Charlie's mum doesn't need unplugging - just a reprogramme to stop being so effing uptight 2. Mr Farouk - DADDY 🔥😍 3. David went from *he's pretty easy on the eye actually* to complete raging bell-end in record time 4. Tao's mum is equal with Olivia Colman as best HS parent and you can fight me over that 5. Elle finding her tribe had me proud asf

[@johnking5174]

Poor Imogen - she really wants to settle down with a boyfriend, and it just doesn't work out for her. Life seems to crap on her eternally. She had a crush on Nick, then that of course had to end. She then was taken in by Ben, who is simply using her to annoy Nick especially. Poor girl. She deserves better.

[@graphiquejack]

Home girl has the worst queer-dar ever. Lol. I love her, bless her heart. On the surface both boys are cute… she and Charlie both had crushes on them, but Charlie upgraded and Imogen… did not… I loved Imogen’s storyline this season and she’s still the funniest character on the show.

[@johnking5174]

@@graphiquejack Hi, you do feel sad for her. Poor girl. Hopefully in season three she will find some happiness.

[@Lucy-uv4hv]

The conversation between Tao and his mum was so lovely - and the new info about his dad also helps to explain a lot of Tao's insecurities about losing his friends in season 1.

[@PokhrajRoy.]

Charlie took on more emotional labour than he could deal with. That’s what I got from the previous episode

[@R989D]

7:13 PMS the musical…”so many moods so little time” 😂😂😂

[@johnking5174]

Charlie's parents are actually decent people with good intentions - you have to look at it from their point of view - Charlie's grades are slipping, and they have just discovered Nick is his boyfriend, which to them explains all why his grades are poor, so they are being tough to be kind. His dad would probably have been less stricter. However, later on in Season 2, we see a more warmer side to Charlie's mum. Won't say anything else to spoil it for you two.

[@jner7149]

The park scene got me in the feels... Season 1, same park, same picnic blanket, behind the same tree trunk, and Nick got panicked when there were people around and Charlie wanted to kiss him, after he asked Charlie how he knew he was gay and saying he didn't know what he was... But Season 2, you can hear people in the background and Nick kisses Charlie without a second thought, fully aware of who he is and what he wants and so full of confidence. It got me. There are so many parallel scenes in S1 and S2 where in S1 it was all confused and uncomfortable and fearful and S2 they have this confidence in their skin and their sexualities that just makes my cold, dead heart beat! 🏳‍🌈❤

[@brondo93]

I know it wasn’t shown in the KZbin version but a couple of fun things about this episode: Isaac’s mum is actually his mum off screen! The resemblance was there and an interview comment (can’t remember who with) did confirm it. And Nick’s French teacher is the intimacy coordinator for the show.

[@katieswan7501]

Alex’s analysis of David’s behaviour actually made me cry. So real. ♥️

[@PokhrajRoy.]

2:14 The worst part about this scene: Ben smiling

[@PokhrajRoy.]

Elle, Naomi and Felix are thé Art Heaux Squad we all wish we had.

[@janeldavis905]

I love that you guys are so aware, so early on, that Charlie is not ok. Great reaction guys! Thanks for sharing ❤

[@lynnhettrick7588]

I *love* the "Paradise" song when they're in the park. Just so lovely!

[@brondo93]

It mirrors the “Dance With Me” sequence from S1 Ep2 so beautifully 🥹

[@himynameisnickolas]

Not Josh being so proud of himself for the “joshing” reference. Lol

[@AStoryWorthTelling]

🥰

[@image9851]

15:09 "If I can get a C, you can probably get an A*" 😂😂😂

[@makncheese9628]

Ive been waiting for this 😭😭 i literally just checked the channel to see if it was posted 😭 i envy you guys and the fact that you guys have so much self control and dont watching all 8 episodes in one go 😭😭😭 i watched it the second it came out from 1am to 5am 😭😭😭😭 edit: i think im with Nick in the situation with imogen. If he told her it would A out ben and B tell charlies story for him. Charlie went through a traumatic event and a traumatic relationship and thats not Nicks place to tell his story.

[@asterierrantry]

hey it was also 1-5 AM for me too!

[@elodiemoriceau7562]

You both absolutely crack me up! The dark humour is just killing me 🤣 But I also love the great convos you share and the good points you make on really serious matters 💖

[@Kadeauxmartins]

I know exactly what is like to have someone saying you're not what you're saying you are. A close friend told me that another friend of mine told him that I was just gay, not bi, cause I show more interest on guys and I'm probably ashamed of saying i'm gay. Guess what, I am bisexual and I am more interested in men than women, but that doesn't mean I'm confused or ashamed. That's just who I am.

[@elektra33753]

When I saw this come up I kid you not I screamed in excitement! The first reaction was so good and I have literally been waiting for the next instalment!!🤣

[@GirlLovesFairytale]

I loved the voice note from Nick. He saw through the text and new exactly the fear Charlie had. ❤

[@isisrose5726]

Thank you so much for specifically calling out the biphobia and bi erasure of David's statements (not just the rudeness, privacy invasion, and homophobia). I really appreciate that.

[@AntonioTC416]

Like many ppl here , I get so excited for your reactions. The balance of humour and seriousness is perfect. Since S1, I've been worried about Charlie, he internalizes everything. Blames himself or takes on everyone's burdens . I see a lot of myself in him and it took a lot of work to feel like I am worth something. Let's just say, I dated too many Ben's. Thank you for noticing the stress Charlie is silently carrying.

[@rebexca3]

(0:40) the look into the camera at the "yet" 😂

[@LizardOfOzzz]

“Put one fire out at a time” -> oh just you wait

[@canny_linguist]

Multiple fires raging in the same forest

[@Jackie1967]

You two are my favorite reactions to watch! Excited to see what you think of in the rest of the episodes.

[@PokhrajRoy.]

I was not expecting the brilliant arc with Tao’s Mum. She’s fab!

[@1MayoCat]

David and Ben infuriate me so much!! I can't wait for you to watch the rest of this season it is definitely a roller-coaster ❤

[@PokhrajRoy.]

Parent Teacher Meetings were just SO AWKWARD: Even if it was good, I would get conscious because I felt people and their parents were judging me.

[@gilly_axolotl]

Fr, I feel like the entire school system is just meant to humiliate children

[@kathleenmansure7416]

I loved them because being a good student was my whole identity and I liked when adults praised me lol

[@MarleneRodriguez711]

Something about Charlie's mom that not a lot of people bring up is just the fact that her priorities are so off? She's so concerned with Charlie not spending too much time with his boyfriend that she never considers there may be OTHER things keeping him from coursework. As someone with depression and anxiety, sometimes it's really difficult to pick up that assignment you know you need to do, and maybe if she would be a little more vigilant than surface level "oh no what if they have sex!" then maybe she'd see he's suffering from multiple mental disorders and past trauma she never thinks to get him to open up about (so she could learn more about the bullying, self-harm, and even (if he felt comfortable enough to speak about it with his now actually nurturing parent) his literal assault from Ben). Charlie is juggling more than any teenager should ever have to and on top of that his mother is taking away one of his only sources of happiness as a solution. It's shit.

[@erikperhs_]

That's really not the case here. The only reason why Charlie hasn't been focusing on his grades is because of Nick.

[@MarleneRodriguez711]

@@erikperhs_ Kinda?? But part of that is cuz he's also WORRIED about Nick which is how they end up meeting in the park. And he's worried because he has his own anxieties about Nick having to face the same bullying he did. There's layers to it yk? And you have to admit she's not very perceptive to everything he's got going on so to add this strict punishment without hearing him out at all.. it's like not rly helping the root of any of his real problems. But that's j how I see it !!

[@erikperhs_]

@@MarleneRodriguez711 Yeah, she's not very perceptive, but none of them are. Nick was the only one to notice Charlie wasn't eating. Even Tori, who's super protective, or Charlie's closest friends hadn't noticed it yet.

[@MarleneRodriguez711]

@@erikperhs_ That's also fair. Again, it is her job if anyone's (obviously his father's too) to notice. But fair.

[@vindifference]

I wouldn't blame her for not firstly thinking of other mental issues because the most recent news from Charlie opening up to them is that he has a boyfriend, and by all evidence he's been really happy. Arguably more happy than he was when he "didn't" have a boyfriend (I doubt he ever mentioned Ben to them). Given that his grades are a problem *now,* but likely weren't a problem during the times when he was single, bullied, and treated like trash, it's fair to reason that the excitement of a new boy is a likely distraction. And let's be real, it is. I was a gay teen boy once, and even without a proper boyfriend, merely liking someone was even more of a distraction than the depression of all the issues that came with being gay in school over a decade ago. That said, everyone's different.

[@trentwilliamson1928]

17:00 this is the most real exchange between brothers and an intervening mother I've ever seen. I had this *exact* argument multiple times with a family member. People who claim Heartstopper is unrealistic idealized fluff are not watching the same program. These are very real people.

[@javencummins1426]

I like how much you both are inturned into Charlie's wellbeing and notice all the signs of its decline.

[@amandaleddy]

Watching you two watch this show that I LOVE is So. Completely. Delightful! ❤️🧡💛💚💙💜

[@debbie1jordan]

Just a great reaction and I really enjoyed the informative discussions you two had during it.

[@mariotorrealba4810]

I have enjoyed SO MUCH the conversations you've had about the episode. It felt kind of interactive. Loved it!

[@andrewr549]

“Nellie loves him…” Oh, Nick 🤭🤭

[@rebexca3]

"Farouked" kinda sounds like an english pronounciation of "verrückt" which is german for 'crazy' 😆

[@Scamander]

Yeah, I was a little confused for a sec, because I thought he was saying the German term, lol.

[@brianmiller3529]

All of the David/Nick scenes are harder to watch for me because of Kit's own experience. David says "Oh you're bi? just admit you're gay". People online say about Kit "Oh you're bi? Just admit you're straight". Everything about Nick's story is heavier in light of Kit's journey. This season is amazing and your reactions are sooooo much fun to watch. Nick/Charlie have the most chemistry, but you guys are up there with the platonic chemistry too :P

[@PokhrajRoy.]

16:55 BEST FREEZE FRAME

[@DoubleBlack2.0]

As a bisexual woman, I really, really appreciate both you guys AND the show for not tolerating bi erasure. 💗💙💜

[@erosheartache2398]

I came to say the same thing

[@glennwalter1969]

Started watching you two last year with season 1! I adore and enjoy you both so much! I’ve already binged the season 2 four times! But will be tuning into see your reactions! Big love to you both! 💋💋. ❤️🛑

[@danieloneal7137]

Plus, they’re acting like this art school is a million miles from Truham, but Elle makes it there for an early evening event on a school day, right? So how far can it be?

[@leaisstillhere]

Adore how you deep delve into these scenes!

[@scottargo2152]

I love that shirt with the rainbow collar almost as much as I love these videos!

[@PokhrajRoy.]

6:01 SAHAR. Leyla was just brilliant 👏🏽

[@Gisechan]

I don't think Charlie's mom is homophobic. I feel she would scold any of her children if they were falling behind their school work. It's not a sexuality issue.

[@lynnhettrick7588]

I don't think she's homophobic but I don't think she's quite comfortable yet with the idea of her son being gay. She's very strict in her parenting style.

[@ccasserole5267]

The problem isn't that she's homophobic. The problem is that Charlie's parents are emotionally neglecting his needs, and thereby fueling the root problem which is his self neglect issues. It is heavily implied that his parents' overprotectiveness comes from an awareness of Charlie being the target of homophobic bullying. Yet, not once in the season does this awareness translate to them ever emotionally checking in on Charlie, or asking how he feels. The only time they seem to even come close to acknowledging it is when they are either punishing him/limiting his autonomy in some way, whilst entirely cutting him out from the conversation. From Charlie's perspective, it justifiably comes off as his parents straight up not caring unless it becomes inconvenient. Regardless of intention, their treatment of Charlie tells him subconsciously that his emotional needs do not matter, unless it bothers other people; and it is this exact framework which guides all of Charlie's actions during his downward spiral in S2. Charlie letting his grades slip, not eating, putting Nick's comfort over his own, and general self abnegatory attitude are forms of self neglect taught and modeled to him by his parents' emotional neglect.

[@thegabrielhyde]

In the comics, Charlie's mum is depicted as having had an outright abusive mum herself, and being critical and controlling of Charlie as a result (which she acknowledges). Based on Tao’s line in season one about Charlie having had self esteem issues since at least year seven, I personally think her parenting style was part of that even before he was bullied, and why it affected him so badly-as well as why it took Charlie so long to stop letting Ben control him. Also, while I don’t know that it’s straightforward homophobia per se, the comics do depict her as irrationally hostile to Nick and Charlie’s relationship (for example, accusing Charlie of secretly having sex with Nick because he keeps and wears Nick’s hoodies), so although there’s a legitimate issue there with Charlie neglecting his studies, I think there are probably also some other agendas there for which it’s providing cover.

[@lynnhettrick7588]

@@thegabrielhyde Well said!

[@nikkil.6338]

@@lynnhettrick7588 I don't think its a gay thing, I think she is one of those parents who aren't warm or close to her kids. Tori makes it seem like there's all this space between kids vs. parents. I don't think she views her kids as entire separate people and thinks the dating thing at his age is frivolous.

[@angietoonz6605]

idk if it's just where i live, but in my school in America we never had these mandatory teacher parent meetings. My mom didnt even know the names of my teachers lol.

[@temporarystranger95]

I love the way you guys love to have fun on these reactions, but you also do a deep dive on what’s happening that is so informative and cool! Thanks for sharing. 👊👊

[@82evene]

I really love the emotional transition during this season. Building a bridge from the light and happy first season to something a little more ...Mature? Serious? While still holding this happiness. It's a piece of art. Not perfect, but wonderful

[@locutorest]

David is just empty inside and is deeply, deeply afraid of that emptiness.

[@lynnhettrick7588]

I love that we see nearly everyone's parents in this episode. It's nice to get more of an understanding of the characters. Charlie's dad is definitely supportive and protective of Charlie, which we saw last season. He's more likely to be more lenient and nurturing with parenting.

[@ineskoivisto]

i've been waiting for this!!! your reactions are the best!

[@stephenkeoughan4994]

Like the reaction. With regards to the mom's punishment. She is holding him responsible and I can't say how important that is. Too many kids/young adults now don't have any idea of what consequences are and it will cause havoc in their future. The mom also gave him an out, he can't see Nick until his work is caught up....he just has to do his homework...no homophobia involved (same with the dad's overnight rule).

[@erikperhs_]

Exactly. It's honestly embarrassing to see people OUTRAGED by the idea of doing a school assignment. It's not the end of the world! Also, [SPOILER] Charlie ends up doing the homework within a couple of hours in the end, so he could have done it weeks before with no problem.

[@Hemlighetsmakeri]

I am so happy your sound has gotten so much better, finally I can hear you good 😂❤ You are so entertaining and a great team!

[@cathymills4175]

You guys make me laugh so much. Love you guys 😂❤ Ive just started watching this show. I binge watched both seasons in a day and OMG i love it.

[@idalusth2928]

Maybe i'm imagining it, but it sounds like the dog growls when Nicke's brother enters the bedroom. Which would be a funny reaction and I don't mean funny haha

[@heidi_d]

Nellie knows what’s up.

[@ksmurthy1148]

honestly my issue with jane isn't that she's homophobic, it's that I think she'd be this cold regardless of charlie's sexuality or anything else. she just wants Charlie to do as he's told and be the perfect son without actually talking to or helping him. she's not homophobic, she's just a shit mom.

[@lesleechristie5870]

The reason why Nick couldn’t tell Imogen of what Ben did that was so horrible was because it involved outing Ben’s sexuality and that is something that Nick wouldn’t do,he wouldn’t out someone’s sexuality despite how awful they might be. But also the other reasons are that it WASN’T HIS SECRET TO TELL since it involved his boyfriend Charlie & Ben. And it would include Ben’s abuse to Charlie. Nick wasn’t being very specific as in Ben did a lot of bad stuff because he didn’t specify as the things Ben did ACTUALLY HURTS SOMEONE. I get that Ben was one of the closet friends Imogen had but when you actually get to know & date the person,you would know how different it is to date someone who is toxic then be friends with them

[@blondzusje]

I love how you 2 disagree all the time and have a good discussion about it :D I think Ben's personal life is soooo messed up... This doesn't mean that what he has done to Charlie must be forgiven, but he deserves to be free and happy. I'm sure 99% of the people disagrees with me, haha! Oh, and David... worst brother ever! At least we've got Tori, the best sister ever..❤

[@mauritious1]

I agree! He's a dick but it's also such a sad way to live. Makes me feel sorry for him too.. Also, I feel like we sometimes forget.. these are literally 15-16year olds! They are still so young. I was an absolute mess at that age! 😂 I kind of (maybe) sympathize a bit with Ben🙈

[@simonorourke4465]

Your not wrong I can never condone Ben's awful behaviour towards Charlie and to a lesser extent Imogen, but as a guy in his late 30s who grew up heavily closeted until his 20s I have had my fair share of internalised homophobia and there were times when out of sadness or often jealousy I was not always kind in my word or thoughts towards my fellow lgbtq people. I can't forgive Ben's awful behaviour but I do feel a bit sorry for him, and sincerely hope that he reaches a place were he can grow as a person learn from his mistakes and just be happy with who he is.

[@marthahammel8543]

These episodes provide so many issues for discussion and to think about. This season is even richer in some ways than season 1. And your combination of insights and humor is the best. As always, Kit Connors acting is A+

[@christophthaler1246]

I see S2 works and make you discuss a lot more with different opinions 😉. Great. Everyone is talking about the mothers. But did you take a look at Charlie's dad? He takes care of him. Remember S1 E3 after the first kiss or E7 after the bullying. And also now on S2.

[@aloudjane137]

8:00 you are aware that the German word for "crazy" sounds very similar to farouked xD

[@freyaf5232]

Happy to see my exact facial expression replicated when Nick spoke to imogen before the maths exam!!!

[@galathynius_aelin]

i love seeing your reactions. i think its really fun to watch with you ❤

[@jipjonnie9088]

My very gay senior coworker told me several times at work drinks very drunkenly (ours are quite wild sometimes) that I should just fully come out as gay. And he was quite adamant I was still halfway in the closet. It kinda pushed me off balance for about a week, I didn't know how to process, and I thought that maybe I was just seeing it all wrong and he might be right. Then I remembered I went through that discussion in my mind 10 years before, and that I know myself, my experiences in life and what I feel better than anyone. No one can tell you what you are, you have to learn things about yourself. No label is permanent, but you put them on and nobody else gets to take them of for you. So the scene with Nicks brother was very personal to me when I read it for the first time and I think I felt seen for the first time ever. I'm glad they did the scene justice, as will the follow up be😂. No spoilers though🙊. Anyhow, if anyone is still reading and wanting a conclusion to the story above, I don't remember what I did after that exactly, but I think I told him to his face the next time he was saying something like that, that it was very biphobic and he shouldn't do that. Whatever I actualy said, he hasn't said anything of that effect since (that was like 4 years ago) and there were plenty of occasions to say it. Later I found out he came out quite late and I was out and about for twice as long as him. Still a nice guy and a great coworker, just needed to do some growing I think.

[@simonorourke4465]

Charlie's mum was in my opinion being a bit too strict, however i dont really blame her for her reaction. After that parents night were multiple teachers told them he was losing focus, slipping behind, distracted and turning up late for classes I'm not surprise that they decided to set down some ground rules. Wih regards to the grounding this was the 2nd time that Charlie had openly defied the boundries set down by his parents. At the end of the day he is only 15 and at a particularly stressful time in his school life where he needs to be focusing on his work and not being distracted. Also he was only originally banned from seeing Nick until he finished his history coursework he only ended up being grounded due to disobeying his parents rules. If he had just knuckled down for a day or so he could have finished his essay and his mum would have been fine with his seeing Nick again as long as he didn't get too distracted. I think Charlie's parents are worried about him, after all they have accepted his sexuality but that doesht mean tht they haven't had to learn a load of new stuff due to there son being gay, they also will be very aware of how awful and torturous the last year was for him with all the bullying ad other associated stuff. This is also the first time they have been confronted with the idea of there 15 year old son having a boyfriend and I'm sure that is a lot to take in especially after the trauma of the last year and the fact that at a surface level Nick does seem to have more in common with the sporty laddish types who bullied Charlie than with his usual friend group. I dont think his mum is homophobic not really just surprised and blindsighted by the news that Nick is her son's boyfriend and there is also the fact that they have been alone in Charlie's room with the door shut so often which i know my parents would never have allowed when i was a kid. Also i do agree that making new friends as you grow is an important step in life, there is no rule that says you have to just forget your previous friends. Elle can make new friends and broaden her horizons but she doesn't have to leave Tau and the others behind, I have numerous friends from different walks of life but my two best friends in the world are two people I have known for most of my life since school. It is however going to be great for Elle to meet another trans person who can relate to the journey she is taking throughout her life, however it did make me laugh when you suggested her friend group could be more diverse considering that her closest friends are already two lesbians one straight man a gay man and a bisexual and possibly an asexual person if the hints througout the series are indeed correct. I would have killed to have a friend group like that at my all boys catholic senior school in Liverpool. Great reaction as ever guys, sorry about the essay length comment 😅, I guess this series just makes me think and want to talk about these wonderful characters, although you are 100 percent right about David he is a proper knob and i hate how h tries to undermine Nick's identity just because he is to emotionally stunted to accept having a bi brother.

[@MicalahOHara]

You have a very adult thought about relationships but as a teenager it was easy to lose yourself by being fully upset in your relationship. I think it’s realistic and reasonable for teens.

[@mayaharwood6843]

Hi boys, don't know if you will read this but i am loving your reaction videos. I wish i had someone to chat through my thoughts with like you do. All i will say is hold on to your hats lol. Look forward to your next reaction. Take care x 😊

[@Howdidyouknow04]

I have one of the same mental health disorders Charlie has and when I was at it’s worse I went from all As and Bs to getting fs because I was so depressed and anxious all the time. I had to get homeschooled for a couple of years. Lucky I started up at a high school and ended up being valediction and getting straight As after I got help for my mental illness. So I relate to Charlie falling behind in school.

[@gilly_axolotl]

Alex may seem dramatic about charlies mom, but he has a point. Grades arent everything, ever. There needs to be actual communication to form boundaries. Teens deserve that.

[@erikperhs_]

It's literally a week. They have to focus on grades for just a little bit. His mom never said he should focus on his grades forever and never talk to Nick anymore.

[@gilly_axolotl]

@@erikperhs_ it's not about the amount of time. It's about the lack of any communication.

[@erikperhs_]

Charlie's mom tells him he can't go to Nick's house and then Charlie spends basically the whole day there. Of course she's gonna be mad haha

[@jasonericson]

The guy that plays Nick's brother is on another Netflix show called "Letter for the King" and he plays a decent character on there. There's also a little queer story line on that show that caught me by surprise.

[@Ollevibev]

If your a bi man you are just gay and pretending to not be and if you are a bi woman you just haven’t found the “right” man yet. 😂 that’s the David type of person mentality…

[@MiJoOc76]

No spoilers BUT some groups need to read the graphic novels which, I feel, do a better job of explaining some of these tough problems the characters are going through. The novels, in combination with the series, are amazing! 👍🏽 Nice work, guys 👏🏽👏🏽👏🏽

[@monotonehell]

There will be Farouk at the end of the Chunnel.

[@davidcwitkin6729]

Josh and Alex would be great parents together because they are so different.

[@michellebarry1555]

It’s so hard to wait three days between episodes…I can’t wait for you to see the whole season. Hearing that Tao’s Dad died really explained a lot about his character and why he has such a fear of losing people close to him 🥺

[@ThetaSigma-vu1sk]

Especially when Tao was only just starting high school when he died. Starting high school is already stressful because you're saying goodbye to some people you knew before and have to make new friends and along with his dad dying, it's no wonder he grew so attached to Charlie and Elle, who he met when he started high school.

[@michellebarry1555]

@@ThetaSigma-vu1sk yes…exactly

[@CyanHope]

I can’t stand Jane. She doesn’t even considers Charlie in the conversation about his school life. Yes, Charlie should focus on his school and he should learn how to balance his personal and school life. Imposing a complete ban, instead of putting healthy boundaries and actually talking to your son about it is bad parenting. She doesn’t even listen to Charlie and puts all the blame on Nick when Nick is only one of the factors in Charlie’s school life. He just came out of a year of relentless and aggressive bullying, he struggles with his mental health, his mother is cold and doesn’t even interact with him. Of course he is distracted by Nick, he is happy for once. Like, genuinely happy and after his past year it’s normal for him to cling onto his happiness. She ignores her husband’s input in regards of Charlie, she ignores Charlie and impose what she feel is right, how Tori has to take on the role of Charlie’s protector all the time is also very telling of how bad she is at being a mother. Charlie’s father isn’t any better but at least he is shown being protective, caring about Charlie and interested in his life like when in season 1 he made sure that Charlie was ok when he took him to Harry’s party and to the Cinema and reassured him that for whatever he needed him he would be there

[@sophiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiie]

15:00 I don‘t understand why Nick doesn‘t just tell her „He assaulted someone“ - he would not have to tell any details because he also wouldn‘t if it was a girl and she just doesn‘t want that people know about her because assaults are still something uncomfortable to talk about.

[@janeldavis905]

15:17 Alex, have you considered that you may have dyscalculia? It's the numbers equivalent of dyslexia, but it's not as well known so I thought I'd mention it in case you've never heard of it :)

[@k1988smith]

I think many people forget to account for events that the audience doesn't see - Charlie's mom witnessed him being bullied and has an extra level of worry. Also, it seems like he must have maintained his good grades even while being bullied, so them slipping now, would be troubling to any good parent. Jack Barton - playing David - is phenomenal and completely different from the first character I saw him as in The Letter For The King!! Alex, I would love to be Farouked all day long!

[@edliwolfstar]

I am gonna re-watch Heartstopper season 1 plus 2 after watching ur video in celebartion that I mannged to read Red White and Royal Blue in 2 weeks before the movie comes out on the 11th and all the little previeuws have me FREEKING OUT how great the chemistry is between the two leads the same as in the novel

[@TalesFromTheHauntedLibrary]

Once again, I LOVE the new logo, but totally miss the fun & silly intro video... It's such a sweet introduction to you boys! Can't we have both?

[@rosac354]

Missed you a lot talking about Heartsopper ❤❤❤ Can I be selfish and say I want an episode every day? 😅 Loved the video!

[@viktormendoza1225]

We call it Parent/Teacher Conference here in the United States.

[@cattyanamontes5724]

Lol the gasp at imogen and Ben 🤣

[@roseanddagger3090]

I agree with Josh about Charlie's mother, and i agree with Alex about Elle's friendships.

[@IzzyofAwembahwei]

charlie and nick at tao's confession be like: let it all out... there you go... mhmm... we know, we know