Heat Treating A Large 5160 Bowie! | Shop Talk Tuesday Episode 105 | Vlog

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Today is episode 105 of Shop Talk Tuesday on The Rivers' Experience! When we do a build series on Shop Talk Tuesday we go into further detail on how I accomplish different steps in the build process and how I choose to utilize the tools I have available.
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[@theriversexperience9383]

Go check out the David Moon Forge KZbin channel: kzbin.info/door/Y_P8sEoXABUnjIQ_BXCP3Q

[@DavidMoonForge]

Thanks for the shoutout Erick! I really appreciate it!

[@user-nv2sv4kj7m]

Absolutely love the knife design, and your grinding skills. 12:51

[@theriversexperience9383]

I'll be forging another one this weekend on a live stream @ 6:30pm central time on Saturday.

[@olivermilutinovic749]

In all of this I can't help but be impressed by the little make shift solutions people always come up with, for instance, that simple, but effective tool, bent nail sticking out of wooden block, to hold the blade while it is cooling after the normalising heats. Some people triple quench harden the 5160,, would that just add more variables and complications ?? I would imagine that subsequent quenches may undo the previous quench results.

[@theriversexperience9383]

Thank you! Yeah, I would just do one Quench. Each time that you heat it up, it ruins the prior quench.

[@bjornronaldson6017]

First off, you and Denis are awesome for shouting out smaller channels. It really makes a difference, numbers wise and validation wise, you are awesome. Next, I really dig the direction you are going with that Bowie. It's looking really good.

[@theriversexperience9383]

Thank you Bjorn.

[@bjornronaldson6017]

@@theriversexperience9383 most welcome

[@mcrich1978]

I'm really digging everything about this blade!

[@123gonow]

This knife is a beast for sure ! Looking good can't wait to see the scales you choose.

[@C.A.Newman]

Really can't wait to see the guard and handle come together. It's lookin crazy good!

[@theriversexperience9383]

I think you will like the Handle A lot. It's going to be a cool setup.

[@davidpugh4527]

That knife is definitely a beast you were the first maker I ever subscribed to I have been subscribed to David Moon Forge since before you shouted him out the first time he does good work he's the master of the coke bottle handle not that I think every Knight needs a coke bottle handle

[@theriversexperience9383]

Thank you David.

[@adelacour]

looks great cant wait to see thge next upload. Thank you.

[@ryanmorman7253]

You produce some amazing work my friend! Very talented! 🤜🤛

[@MBishopsBlades]

That profile is awesome!

[@mcrich1978]

Let's do eeet!

[@bensondrums]

looking great!

[@chrisbrodroy1183]

Crocodile Dundee Voice: Now that is a knife! :) Great work man!

[@theriversexperience9383]

Thanks Chris!

[@a2zblades46]

I’m loving it 👍👍

[@DavidMoonForge]

I'm really digging this bowie and all the textures you played around with on this one and the karambowie. I liked the karambowie too, but I think I like this blade even more. I think the wow factor just goes up the bigger a knife gets 😃

[@theriversexperience9383]

I agree, these larger knives show all the cool textures better than the smaller versions.

[@jasonvliet-odonataknifeworks]

Coolest EDC you’ve made yet!

[@theriversexperience9383]

Thanks Jason!

[@mcrich1978]

That Block again.. 😂 ya need to concave the bottom of that Block so it can saddle that warp in the table better. 😉

[@theriversexperience9383]

I've got a better setup now. I just didn't even think about it until it was to late lol.

[@mcrich1978]

Lmao! Looking forward to seeing it.

[@johnjude2685]

Question? I'm not going to invest big bucks for Parks 40 To go with cheap is the peanut oil the better for the cheaper oils Thanks ahead

[@theriversexperience9383]

Yup, I prefer Peanut oil over the others. The smell is nice and easy on the nose. Other oils give of lots of fumes and smells.

[@wolfparty4234]

My wife used to freak out when I would be talking to her with a knife in my hand and waving it around like a spatula!!!🤣🤣🤣🤦🏻‍♂️💪🏼👍🏻

[@theriversexperience9383]

My wife still gets on to me for it lol.

[@wolfparty4234]

@@theriversexperience9383 🤣🤣🤣🤦🏻‍♂️💪🏼

[@NastyNate-fn6od]

Can you do a video on different angles for the bevels ?

[@chrisnosal2526]

Another fantastic and informative video! Thank you! So, for a stock removal blade- do you recomend 3 normalized cycles also? Is this necessary? Thank you again.

[@theriversexperience9383]

I recommend normalizing cycles for pretty much any knife, you don't really know what the steel you are getting has been through before it got to you.

[@billthomas8635]

How do you know what the temps are for the normalizing cycle in your gas forge? Awesome work!

[@theriversexperience9383]

I use a laser thermometer, it comes in handy.

[@timjohle8876]

Every time I watch I notice the Grizzly sign. What do you own that’s Grizzly. I’ve always liked the lines in a blade and I’m not a fan of shinny. If someone does everything down to a polished look that’s their deal. It looks ok to me but I wouldn’t buy anything shiny. I love beat up character. Looking good brother.

[@theriversexperience9383]

I own a few Grizzly tools but that is actually a small skate board I made for my kid a while ago. Grizzly is the brand of grip tape on it.

[@doubled3300]

I’m getting my stock from leaf springs. I heat it to flatten it out. Would this be incorporated into the normalizing process? Or is it a moot point?

[@theriversexperience9383]

The normalizing process is its own thing. You meet to bring it up to specific temps and then let it cool. This process is done after the forging process.

[@clutelmm]

What about a FULL Hand Guard, for this one? One that protects your Knuckles, and you could smash someone's face with? I'd bet that would look great in your hand or walking down the street in it's Sheath.

[@twells84]

What do you use to test the temperature?

[@theriversexperience9383]

I use a high temp laser thermometer.

[@ridhwaanjogiat1708]

How thin do you take the edge?

[@theriversexperience9383]

It's the thickness of a dime is where I left it.

[@kylemutina7318]

I ordered 3ft of 5160 and I have issue drilling pins holes. Other metals give me no issue. Ive tried everything can you help?

[@DavidMoonForge]

You could try annealing it first, by bringing it up to ~1500F - 1600F and then letting it cool slowly in vermiculite or just turn off your forge and let the steel cool slowly in there. That should get the steel to its softest working state.

[@kylemutina7318]

@@DavidMoonForge it cut maybe 1/4 way through then I got it cherry red and let it cool then used a new titanium bit, nothing but smoke bro. I cut through a piece of 1095 like hot butter. I'm lost af

[@DavidMoonForge]

@@kylemutina7318 it's hard to say without actually seeing your setup. I've never really had problems drilling through 5160 that wasn't hardened. Some things that COULD be possible: 1. It wasn't hot enough and the core wasn't quite as hot as you thought it was. You could fix this by letting it soak for at least a minute or more at nonmagnetic before letting it start to cool. 2. It didn't cool properly (slow enough). Annealing is different from normalizing, and you want your steel to cool at ~20F - 70F per hour. That is WAY slower than in open air, and should take many hours to return to room temperature. 3. Your steel could be some weird variation of metal that is not actually 5160 and thus not behaving like 5160. Just some thoughts. I hope it helps!

[@timcasey6815]

When normalizing your blade, you show us how you let it air cool by hanging it on a hook. The hook is imbedded in a block of wood set on top of a bench. Each time (three total attempts) the block of wood moves and wobbles, making it difficult to hang the blade on the hook. Why not simply temporarily attach the block of wood to the bench with a clamp!? Problem solved. Why struggle with a red hot hunk of metal indoors. Not really that hard to solve a safety problem. Just a thought. Be safe. Don’t burn down your house or drop a hot blade on your foot. By the way, nice knife.

[@theriversexperience9383]

As I'm reading this, I'm just sitting here thinking "this is something I would have told someone..." You make a great point and I have no idea why I didn't do that... I tell people all the time that I get some of the best knowledge from my viewers, thanks.

[@clutelmm]

I was wondering? Are you selling that knife? And how much would a poor boy like myself have to bust out of his piggy bank to have it? With the Full Hand Guard on it, no sheath? Aah, razor blade sharp?

[@theriversexperience9383]

The Bowie is not on the website yet, but will be soon. Check out what is available at theriversexperience.com/