Heat Vs. Cold (Ice) Pack? Avoid This Common Mistake. Infrared Heat?

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[@elizabethnesbitt2243]

I bought the Thermotex far infrared pad on your recommendation and love it! I have fibro and use it on my arthritic hands, lower back, upper back, feet--whatever hurts. It's made a big difference. Highly recommend.

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[@ohyeah3365]

I love using blue dawn in plastic freezer bag. Gets really cold and stays flexible. Recyclable too. Make sure you use good bags though. Not a disaster, but sometimes they leak.

[@suzannekazmiruk183]

Laura Evenhouse Thanks Laura! Never heard of this before.

[@lourdesprudencio5647]

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[@jogriffiths4797]

I couldn’t get my elderly mother to understand why cold packs are used (she called it new nonsense), until I reminded her that cold water is used on race horse legs straight after they race.... then she got it!

[@TotalTennisGeek]

This is so frickin helpful. I needed this video when I injured my wrist and shoulder playing tennis.

[@ruthbircham7340]

Hi guys 😊 i use 2 or 3 hot water bottles on my sciatica lumbar pain and my groin and my outter thigh leg. Wraped in a towel. I spread my quilt on my bed and i became crippled with pain in my back and groin i couldnt walk. 7 heated water bottles later for 4 days. Im at last able to stand up straight and walk to the toilet and go up the stairs. I went so stiff and the pain was painful. But now im able to move. Hot water bottles is better.

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[@WunHungLo99]

I make cold packs from ice cubes crushed down, put into 2 or even 3 freezer bags. It orurrcts the skin, is completely malleable to the shape of the area where the injury is. Put it back in the freezer on that shape. When you need it again, it's rock hard but easily broken up.

[@keegsmum]

I love my Thermotex!!! It is so much better than any other heating pad I have used.

[@miriamfernando8894]

Thank you for sharing this. I have had this question in mind for so long while treating muscle injury and this video helps in understanding when to use.

[@janettempest716]

Thank you 🙏 😇🌟I had bad pain in neck I put 2 towels in freezer and alternating it was good👍

[@Torsdagskvallsmys]

Get your facts right! You two are the most famous in the internet in my opinion as well..

[@psdaengr911]

A thin towel is bad wrap for an ice pack. It will quickly condense moisture which will freeze, negating the protection. What I found that works better is a terry washcloth or face towel covered with a ziplock plastic bag. The combination keeps out moisture and the nap of the terry allows air to do the heat exchange. ut. The secondary benefit of initially using cooling is that it numbs the area.

[@reginaacod940]

Thanks this was helpful for my child doing a video about how to do first aid on a sprain

[@lindywoods6256]

You guys are so funny thank you ( laughing while screaming at the same time with pain) you've given me hope

[@MhetreMudita]

😂 you’re right.. I fell down and my back hurts so bad.. but I feel better and hopeful watching these helpful duo while applying cold ice pack. Thank you Sir’s 🤝

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[@shirleykimberlin7447]

I am not on any social media just on You Tube and I like you alot. No worries Bob and Brad.

[@JanCarol11]

Using heat pack against your back on the recliner will damage the foam on the recliner... same for your bed. I have long term back pain, and used to use heat on the muscles, and melted a few mattresses. Not melted, but over time, that part of the bed becomes mushy.

[@Amy_Stanmore]

I'm in winter now with sciatica and I can't do ice it's too freezing so I didn't do anything, 4 days later either have a warm shower in the evening or use a hot water bottle. I feel more comfy and soothed with a hwb. started walking today and it was feeling better so tomorrow I'll walk morning and afternoon and do the stretching before I have breakfast and before bed. For cold I use a clean tea towel. I'll try the compression strap next time.

[@cindisims5917]

What do you do for chronic pain daily from fibromyalgia.

[@gardengirl9099]

Go to EO Nutrition on KZbin. Look for Benfotiamine (b1). I’ve Had fibromyalgia for 35 years plus and if you go to the max with Benfotiamine and magnesium glycinate, your pain will be gone. I started in June and slowly worked my way up to the max dose. I also took a b complex for a month. By August I was 100% pain free. This really works. I’m 72 and thought I would have fibromyalgia for the rest of my life.

[@sondracee8989]

I've had a lot of surgeries and reconstructive spine surgery and Ice was the only thing that made me feel better the heat generated more pain for me that's how it is

[@jeffdavis5841]

True that ice helps reduce the pain due to helping numb the nerves and of course reduce swelling. However newer info says that heat is better (after swelling)for healing since it increases blood flow to the damaged tissue .

[@reenXsham]

What abput the spinal disc problem? Can we put both at a time? Whenni went to my physio, she put cold pack first on my back newr shoulders. Then she would put muscle massaging machine there and then at the end she put hot pack. Is thay correct? Kindly rep someone.

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[@BobandBrad]

Thank you for the kind words. Hope you stay Healthy and Pain free. Brad

[@mp7925]

Hmm, I agree mainly on all but that pack being put under entire surface of lower back at around 6:00/01. I would always fold it so it covers mainly spine (bone part) as such and much less muscle area. After being folded it is approx my hand and half in width. And btw, when wrapping ice to ankle or so do not forget it there, I did once and had partially frozen skin and maybe even meat and later big and painful blister for 2 and more weeks if I remember correctly. :-) It was worse then heat burn.

[@letmebme1436]

Good idea with the pillow case.

[@damorfresh4268]

Sirs, I do have this question that states... which of these is contraindicated for treating frozen shoulder? 1. Thermal agents 2. Slings 3. Overhead pulleys Please which one is correct?

[@MrHorizonkid]

I get sharp pain in my right leg, in my buttock and it goes down my Hamstring and the calf becomes heavy chiropractor told me the piriformis muslce is the culprit and you should use cold pack because of severe pain due to only standing and walking a little. I used the cold pack it felt better now when i switched to mild heat the pain became excruciating.

[@rollinOnCode]

problem with ice is that it inhibit and prevents the healing process. macrophages are inhibited by ice.

[@AceCorr]

EXACTLY! It sounds like you used Malin method. Have you used HEM? I did to cure my sprained ankle.

[@kalipress4338]

I use my infrared lamp. Mine is near infrared. I also use NeuroMD electrical stimulation. I try to go back & forth between cold and warm.

[@pabali2009]

Really very helpful education to live in good shape

[@JoseRodriguez-pq5sz]

God bless ya. You guys ever wonder why we get injured why this body is so strong but yet so weak. Is just so frustrating I was getting stronger n recently I hurt my rotator cuff been looking n doing the exercises on your videos. Thank you so much. Peace n grace

[@King_David_]

I’m just here for the jingle

[@mihaelaborsosszabo1399]

A great thank you from Romania!👍🙏🙏

[@darkbluematter1753]

What do you think of an ice water bath to bring down overall body inflammation/pain or soaking an effected area in ice water. Seems like the cold would penetrate better that way. Might be really uncomfortable, but if you only stay in the water for a short time, it would be safe. I'm just inspired by the idea of winter bathing where folks of all ages take a quick dip in icy sea water each day. Some people swear by the health benefits. What are your thoughts?

[@darkbluematter1753]

Thanks for the response! I've got fibromyalgia with all over pain and inflammation, low grade fever--heat therapy feels so good at first but then causes a flare and also makes my POTS worse. Ice soaks seem worth a shot. I'll be careful and use common sense 😊👍🏼

[@goodintentions1302]

Wim Hoff is well known for ice immersion. I'm challenged with even a partly cold shower. 🚿 Brr

[@MsGaella]

Cotton handkerchief or bandanna works well under the cold pack.

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[@Limbaugh_]

Is getting the inflammation necessary for healing? Cause if it’s just a pain thing then I’d rather tough it out with heat

[@drtekchandsharma]

Ye inflammation is necessary but .in acute stage .their may be over bleeding ..so apply Ice pack for 4_5 menute .to control inflammation

[@sherry8607]

@BobandBrad ankle sprain ice or no ice? Just happened?there are those who say ice stops the healing process.

[@cmb6780]

What about chronic back pain...every day. Hot or cold?

[@bashirmuhammad4953]

I am suffering from groin injury for 3 weeks now. Please should I keep icing or heat the area?

[@andrewnichols1240]

I can't get any effect unless cold pack is directly applied. Tooth ache. Better accompanied with asprin

[@RedondoBeach2]

If infrared heating pads penetrate so deeply, it seems like using them anywhere on your torso would be a really bad idea considering that they would heat your organs. Please address this concern in a reply to me and another video.

[@Joani161]

I have slept on the thermtex pad and no burn.

[@kimberlyfrancis926]

I had ankle surgery July 27th and now I'm still have to elevate my ankle for 6 more weeks until October 20th when I go back to my orthopedic doctor but he said I can start to exercise so what do you prefer how many times a day should I exercise my ankle

[@deechiodo6738]

So..... correct me if Im wrong, but you said, first 48 hours use cold ..... after that, its your choice. Is that correct?

[@LowtimeCPL]

Sprained my ankle 3 months ago and it don’t hurt anymore but I keep re injuring it by skate boarding. I land with my toes and it feels like a electric shock, it’s not my ankle it feels like the ligaments in the ankle and it’s been a week off my board icing and stuff and i guess I’ll just keep elivating it and icing no hest

[@c.j.9141]

Cold for spasms? New to me. Will try.

[@sreenuAtoZ]

Which is best slipped disk, ic bag or hot bag tell me

[@dh-in8qr]

what about massage for knee or ankle sprains? Thanks.

[@daianepiucco2441]

I have early degeneration of facet joints at L4/L5. The mri says it is mild and due to a tiny synovial cyst which is far from the nerve. I have quite frequent flare ups and they are usually triggered when I overdue at the gym. I also have trochanteric hip bursitis. Atm im exploring exercise modifications with a physio to work around my condition which I would classify as chronic since it creeps up every 4-5 months and takes a few months for the pain to go away. For prevention of future flare ups should I use ice or heat on lower back and hip ? Thanks guys

[@cerato792]

Infrared directly behind the back.. 😳 is it safe? From what i learnt pt need atleast some distance for the infrared to penetrate effectively to the muscles, joint etc..may i ask for your justification?

[@lancecheslock6756]

With severe lower back pain, I have been icing my back for 30 minutes and sometimes 40 minutes. Please say something about the risks of leaving a cold pack on too long, if there are any.

[@brexitfc4298]

Slows down blood flow

[@josemv25]

Nerve damage?

[@thatkingk.roolmain842]

The intro tho. Lmfao

[@venialivelizard]

Its pretty great xD haha

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It's my ringtone

[@wahooooh]

It’s amazing 🎉

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Earned a sub for sure 😂

[@pami4482]

The RICE method is easy to remember when I get an injury-R-restI-iceC-compressionE-elevate

[@pj4092]

OK, when you sprain a joint it swells up. That seems like it's the body's way of immobilizing the joint. Yet they say to put cold on it to take away the swelling. Seems like you're fighting against what the body wants to do. It seems like taking the swelling away would encourage you to use the joint again, which your body is trying to stop you from doing. Why use cold?

[@workwithmechanism5768]

Sir how much the temperature of ice pack

[@Endeavor545]

Yeah, I used to wake up with my back just killing me, lol, then I slept in my recliner….never slept in a bed again.

[@hand4letters851]

Mistake I was making I was using heat pad and heat cream all night and made my butt cheek worse first night doing cold pack so much better now!

[@MusicYoutube-s5u]

Hi doc, is hot compress good for hematoma? Thank you

[@onepoint2320]

Hi, its been more than 5 days my mom fell down , I tried both cold and heat pad at different time on my mom, now she's having pain lower back and its night here so after watching ur video should I apply cold or heat on her now ?

[@bradymoore4900]

I have a good idea for a video. How do you deal with soreness after a workout? What are some things you can do to recover faster?

[@krhodes02]

Brady Moore yes this is a good topic

[@christosemper8715]

For recovery it's mostly stimulating and facilitating blood flow that helps. Hot packs can increase blood flow (day after), compression sleeves increase blood flow, massage and rolling can increase blood flow and break up abnormal muscle tone.

[@StrengthLegacy]

Increase the frequency. Soreness decreases over time with increased frequency.

[@fawsiyoomar7661]

Thanks

[@larkhughes9740]

Hydrate, hydrate, hydrate!

[@ArjunKumar-qn3ex]

What if there is no injury .there is pain in the hip because of prolonged sitting .

[@rjaxxxas]

Statically Stretch hip flexors, Lumborums. What Athlean X.

[@travisnelson9104]

Walk. Take an hour walk a couple times a day.

[@drsareekakatkuriphysiother5376]

Why some docs say... that we shouldn't ice an acute injury.., coz icing stops the blood flow to the area n therefore the healing. What are ur thoughts on it??

[@krisbarnes9083]

Sareeka Katkuri the only way to completely stop the blood flow to an area is a tourniquet, which is NEVER indicated for soft tissue injuries. The ice will reduce the swelling, and therefore the pain. That's why any time you have an acute injury (sudden and quickly developing into possible further complications), you ALWAYS use cold first, then heat to relax the muscles. Any contrary opinion is NOT teaching to International Red Cross standards.

[@farmerblue2002]

Speaking of ice packs; I am looking for good quality (durable) ice pack velcro headband style, one i can walk around with and not hold it on my head......ice packs only thing that really works when i have headaches. The one i can find on amazon, breaks easily and the bluefelt strip that is on one side falls off after a few uses.

[@xanadu1jw]

Farmer Blue I buy Advanced Magnesium from amazon for my migraines and a feverfew product. I take the mag. every day and the feverfew combined with several mag. when I have the rare migraine from the rare times of forgetting to take the mag. One has to start off with mag. very slowly only gradually increasing to 5mg per pound of body weight per day over a period of several weeks. If it gives diarhea back off to last dose that didn’t for a while and then increase more gradually.

[@KathleenHelenLisson]

Thanks for these tips!

[@KevinTersilas77]

Great advice guys

[@mountaingirl1797]

Where on spine is it safe to use ice ❓❓please answer soon 👍🏻‼️

[@jyothiu6482]

We can use at a time cold Nd heat.? Back fr cold pack Nd stamach fr hot. Pls ansr

[@anned1474]

Frozen pees in a Ziploc bag with eg. pillowcase works great conforms to shape of body. Reusable too.

[@user-qx9zn2cj4e]

u can buy a large cold liquid pack for 6-8 dollars...I understand being stingy when you have to, but make an exception if its about your own health!

[@truthiseverything9511]

Frozen peas don't last long and are not reusable. Just buy a coldpack.

[@cheypam]

pees 😂 😂 😂 😂 😂

[@conor-_C]

So after 48 hours u can use heat

[@gjop-xm2xe]

Which is better infra heat as to home unit ultra sound

[@zouzou6424]

than you for all your efforts

[@gisellesuarez6893]

I used hot and cold showers yesterday and I dance, my sciatica has decreased since then, but I feel it is most the dance I think..I practice ballet and Tahitian Dance..Kisses from Peru!!!

[@SummerHawaii582]

Heating pads barely get warm anymore. Even on high. 2 hour shut off automatically.

[@willyb933]

I was told that the real benefit of icing is when the ice is removed and the blood flows back the injured area..thus carrying off inflammation. Is that for real?

[@cherylmcnutt9905]

Do you use hot/cold pack for 15-20 mins. every hour? Two hours? Longer?

[@mewieful]

What about carpal tunnel syndrome? I've been battling it for 4 years I'm trying to stretch and ice and heat plus electro therapy and acupuncture once a week now should i still be icing it is one of the few things that really relieves the pain

[@terrylee5861]

I always sleep with wrist braces and it has helped tremendously. We often bend our wrists when we sleep, this prevents that.

[@keertipotluri2647]

If you can please do meditation. It helps!! My husband had this and meditation really helped him ,now he doesn't have it.

[@michaelgordonsaxophone]

Search the DIY Joint Pain Relief channel. Great for carpul tunnel

[@AceCorr]

How is your carpal tunnel now? You need to get it cured completely or else you will be prone to more injury. Do you still need more help?

[@ss-nc2dy]

Are you supposed to lie down when applying heat? I have one of those heating belts that you can stand/sit or walk around in. I was told by my massage therapist that heat is good for bulging & herniated disk, but when I apply heat it hurts MORE after 10 minutes not less.

[@xanadu1jw]

best way to get a long term patient! Ice, cold, ice, ice ice!

[@bmetz3843]

What about chronic back pain? Heat or ice?

[@Professor-taboo]

B Metz no answers yet?🤦🏻‍♂️

[@julianj.1626]

Question? Why using ice for a injured ankle and lift up? Is it not the bodies natural reaction to heal the injury? Why slowing of the circulation by cooling down the area when the body wants to heal it? Thanks for taking time to explain Julian

[@charlenerue9955]

To stop the swelling if there is swelling

[@newyorkguy158]

I don't see where heat or cold are going to relieve the pain of arthritis for more than a few minutes. Cold might numb the nerves, but the effect wears off quickly. Same for heat. Neither is very useful. Why should they be?

[@sumeetbakshi7636]

What abt knee swelling but without any injury. Should i use cold or hot pack?

[@fakeplasticlovex]

Use a cold pack for 15 mins, 3x a day. It’ll help the swelling and inflammation go down.

[@nietzschesmuse]

Thank you guys!

[@marissalovie]

Can you do a video about accessory navicular bone? I'm struggling so much as I was recently diagnosed but I do not want surgery!!!

[@healthytipsplus1343]

Thank you for sharing! The information and direction provided gives me much needed direction in dealing with my joint and muscle pain.

[@biglou250]

Would like to see a video about your thoughts on becoming PT today. I've been thinking about it but am not sure the loans of DPT school outweigh the modest salary that most PTs make starting their careers. Thanks guys!

[@christosemper8715]

Lou Anthony that depends on the setting. If you go outpatient then yes. But SNF, Acute, home care you'll probably start at 80k and in home care some places 90k+. Alot of DPT students come out with 100k-200k in debt. If you really wanted to pay it off asap you can look into working weekends PRN and you can make an extra 20k-30k a year. It's just a lot of work

[@LunaStargoddess]

Do it and love it, become a blessing for others by helping them to live happy lives!

[@СветланаТевелевич]

Hi to everybody.I am a "physical therapist" inRussia,but i graduated a medical univercity- i was studing for 8 years , now i work in ICU at the regional stroke center. my salary with outpatient is about 600 $ a month.and yes,we have a lot of hard work. i

[@sandralewis6454]

Lou Anthony, if you can see yourself doing this job, then nothing should stop you. The other reply about adding extra hours to pay off debt is smart. At the pet place I go to, there are college students there working as techs.

[@HeavyMentalArt]

I was thinking about getting a standing desk, i do alot of drawing and graphic design. Are standing desks better for back pain and posture?

[@hardushelm6268]

Trying To Art was thinking the same thing

[@maxineboxer9714]

Hardus Helm I raised my art board so I could stand and paint, without any bending. Sitting and leaning forward is deadly for my back. It helped a lot with my lower back pain. I put a bed tray on my desk and it was the perfect height. Keep all your paints around you so you don’t have to reach very much. I think a thick rubber mat would help too, for standing on.

[@Josh-dj9ce]

If I have had long term low back pain is it ok to heat more than once a day

[@BobandBrad]

You can heat yes yes. Icing is good for the initial injury however heat and ice rotated is good for after the initial injury

[@Josh-dj9ce]

@@BobandBrad thank you so much

[@jrvaul2610]

heat or cold pack for leg and/or foot cramps during the night? how to keep them in place when you are in bed?

[@TheBuckoswald]

The bed thing is me 100% I can sleep on my side or back. Neither bed or recliner

[@soultouchingsongs]

You guys are a saviour. Thank u🙏

[@jewel5641]

Liked Video but you did not say how long you should keep ice on a lower back for sciatica pain. Ice feels good but I know I can not keep it long for a long time. (HOW LONG) ?

[@zulemapearce4949]

15-20 min for ice

[@ishtar0077]

I couldn't move my hips have arthritis so as soon i wake up i take super hot shower to help me. Now using heat therapy i use utk heat pad over night to help me . It works

[@mikegainan3702]

ishtar0077 try using cold heat just inflames the body even more

[@missjenny1953]

Agree, hot shower or wheatpack wrapped in a towel just seems to iron things out and get you going

[@ishtar0077]

@@missjenny1953 It has help me to wake up with less pain and stiffness on my hips. It works for me bc I can feel my body with less pain. I sleep with it on low setting over night. Also I'm using new red-light therapy now for my psoriasis and arthritis. Its been 3weeks and i see change . It takes 3months to see results

[@speedsheltie]

What about using infrared heat followed by cold? Or would you do ice and follow an hour later with infrared? Or not mix?

[@CalmVibesVee]

Thank you !

[@ricardomurillo5205]

Confused!