HEATED DEBATE: Haaland Is NOT The Best Signing This Season!

[@joeldepas9928]

"the impact Botman and Casemiro have had is underrated just because they aren't strikers" Truth

[@francie6278]

That’s exactly what I was thinking when he said that, literally the most true statement in this whole KZbin video.

[@benwright3234]

Mate I’m with reev.. yes haaland is a robot but city are second. The way United and Newcastle have transformed their form around due to botman, Casemiro and a couple of other key players. They deserve to be high in the list, the impact is felt more with these players than with haaland.

[@ironheade22]

That is true, but Haaland is still miles ahead. We're talking about possibly the best signing in English football, Casemiros decent performances for 70 million don't come close

[@jonsnow2476]

Yeah they are good , but I don't think even think they could come close the performances of Haaland.

[@wasdrankings1518]

@@ironheade22 what about botman being the best defender in a team that are the best premier league defence since like 2000s chelsea

[@ishaankotecha1917]

I completely agree with reev that the ‘best signing’ is not necessarily the best player on paper who was signed last summer. I think the fee, impact on the club and play style all come into the equation. The ‘best signing’ should factor in how much of a hole the player has filled in a team. It’s not saying one player is better than the other more so that it is the best decision by a club to sign a player based on who has fit in best and performed best relative to

[@sury9500]

the thing is, if haaland had gone to arsenal, united or newcastle. It wouldn't even be an argument that hes the best signing. Its just being debated here because he joined the team that was already the best in the prem.

[@baggiesfan257]

So you agree botman has been a better signing than haaland? Don’t be silly

[@wolvezy]

He's spot on tbh

[@jaydenyoung4851]

@H can’t really change much when they’re reigning champs

[@sury9500]

@H yeah but changing the team shouldnt define the best signing. It should be determined based on the quality and price of the player. For me casemiro is out simply because he was a 30 yr old bought for 70 million. Botman isnt a singular player making an impact. Newcastle has also signed 2 other players in a defensive position.

[@euan2]

I agree that 'best signing' implies best bit of business, not simply the best player who has signed

[@deec.9575]

Yeah and on that investment, how much has the player impacted his club as a return on said investment. The impact is judged upon (quality of player+performance)

[@GreasyGoon]

@@deec.9575 £51.2 million transfer fee for Haaland. He’s already “earned that back” and we’re only halfway through the season. IF he were to leave in 3/4/5 years, the transfer fee would be at LEAST £100 million. Nothing but profit (through goals/titles or money) whether he stays or goes. Best bit of business by far.

[@Nick-cq3sp]

@@GreasyGoon If he were to leave now it would be north of $150M.

[@sury9500]

even then reev is undermining haaland so much. So far the guy has played 19 games and scored in 15 of them. He only didnt score against liverpool chelsea united (2nd time) and brentford. In all of those games the guy didn't even get a chance because city weren't creating well. he's also severely overrating casemiro and botman as signings. While they've had a massive impact, they are one of five different signings that both teams made. Lisandro Eriksen Antony Malacia Casemiro, and Botman Burn Pope Bruno Guimaraes and Isak. Haaland is basically city's only first team signing.

[@talanimlangeni6150]

Haaland was bought for a quarter of what he's worth

[@reev]

Justice for Joao Paulinha.

[@Lozzaleo]

Ball knowledge 🧠

[@thewelshtraingeek4895]

Ball knowledge was on point until top 3, then it plummeted further than West Ham have in the table

[@eg285910]

Man city last year after 20 games (49 goals and 50 point) Man city this year after 20 games (53 goals and 45 points) Haaland has essentially made no difference. The argument of his teammates having a bad year? I my opinion if he is an elite signing he should make everyone around him better which clearly isn't the case!! Love the content!!

[@viktorjohansson8464]

Common oliver W

[@simonwright4505]

Justice for palhinha, casemiro, botman… Reev your ball knowledge is on point

[@TheRandomDudee]

Depends how you look at it. I think City without Haaland would still be in the position they're in there goals would of just came from elsewhere the players who have had the biggest impact 100% Botman and Casemiro

[@mattiknowyourmum7521]

From who exactly ? Gundo , Bernardo, Foden , Cancelo are all off from.

[@TheRandomDudee]

@@mattiknowyourmum7521 There's surely a reason for that though maybe they've had to change how they play to suit Haaland. I don't know man

[@mattiknowyourmum7521]

@@TheRandomDudee that doesn't make sense. Was Haaland playing with them at the world cup ? ,because they were off it while playing for their countries as well.

[@fridtjofsvinddal6526]

Son and Salah have not scored this season. Just because you scored in the previous season doesnt mean you will score next season. The argument saying others would score Haalands goals is so BS.

[@Athena_208]

Agree.

[@joelalex8236]

Reev is speaking FACTS.Defenders get overlooked far too often because they are not in the limelight as much as strikers...REEV knows ball.👏👏👏

[@jacknelson927]

They never get a look in for ballon dor and other best player of year awards like midfielders wingers and forwards

[@houdinilinguine]

@@jacknelson927 It's just simply harder to measure the impact of a single defender because a defense also falls on the shoulders of each and every defender in the team including the goalkeeper and also the manager who develops the tactics. So it's almost impossible to tell. It's just basically all eye test. Not saying I agree that defenders shouldn't be considered for ballon d'ors but there is an explanation of why that is.

[@shepardice3775]

@@houdinilinguine It's also underlooked because it's just not glamorous. Despite how vital and transformative great defensive work can be it's aesthetically unpleasing unless you're Maldini and people are excited about great goals, not great defending.

[@ImAlpoo]

Theo’s football knowledge is actually shocking

[@banditfr]

reev just never misses. also hows no one talking about theo and the geordie putting willian over eriksen. do they not realise he came in on a free as well

[@siiiuuu8676]

Reeve does have a point

[@dylan_A006]

just not a good one

[@deec.9575]

I think he has a very reasonable argument. The best signing can be determined based on factors like money spent and how the player impacted his team. This is why Antony at Utd has been called a flop so far because even though he has impacted Utd in certain ways, it’s not worth the money spent of him. Similarly, Haaland has scored SO much already but City are still second in the league. Haaland has the best performance but his impact isn’t as strong as someone like Casemiro’s

[@25pence]

@@deec.9575 city fucked up, haaland is a crazy diff play style to what city like and grealish on top of that wins fouls all the time, stoping play allowing defences to reset, another massive downfall to city this season, Casemiro is easily the best signing in football this season, strangely followed by martinez and Jesus and zinchemko all tied second in my opinion

[@Amanda-ue6kk]

@@25pencedamn you feel like a fuckin idiot now huh

[@ryanbezer6912]

Completely Agree with Reev - United can't play the same way without Casemiro, Newcastle drop points without Botman But City can Still win without Haaland he's been incredible individually and stats wise but his impact on the Team doesn't compare to the other 2 #Noballknowledge #ReevLove

[@yowasup786]

Theo and that beard bloke dont know nothing

[@rudymccann5893]

Now that city have won the treble who you reckon was signing of that season?

[@Amanda-ue6kk]

Damn you feel fuckin dumb now don’t ya

[@PAVE3]

Agree with Reev's points here can't lie

[@sury9500]

@Harry O'Kane there is no player that can go to city and drastically improve the squad. because they were already the best in the country. If haaland went to newcastle, man united, or arsenal. thered be no debate hes the best signing. Also haaland has improved the squad. The issues are at the back not the front. cancelo is out of form, dias, laporte and walker always having injury issues

[@yoljuma4431]

Haaland wouldn’t score as much in those places theres no kdb feeding him

[@Amanda-ue6kk]

@@yoljuma4431he has at every other team he’s been on shut up arsenal fan

[@yoljuma4431]

@@Amanda-ue6kk 1 not an arsenal fan and his production is proved without being fed he's way worse just watch the athletic who used to be tifo or do research instead of acting like a pigeon with an extra chromy spouting nonsense

[@Amanda-ue6kk]

@@yoljuma4431 he averaged a goal a game at dortmund and scored 16 goals at saltzberg as a 18 year old.. go do your research lil guy

[@stanabbeloos7504]

Theo is already acting like snapshoteye in this video, creepy looking at the camera vibes BTW Reev you are bang on, common Reev W

[@Charlie-in1ij]

Not having Lisandro Martinez is absolutely criminal. One of it got the best centre backs in the league this season, absolutely transformed United’s defence

[@Charlie-in1ij]

If not*

[@jackgillin612]

He’s good but not even the best defender on his team so…

[@sharkfinn7234]

is he not the guy who conceded 4 to brentford, 6 to city, 3 to villa all while playing in one of the deepest back lines itl?

[@MemesOfProduction69]

​@@sharkfinn7234 one of the deepest lines in the league? Are you smoking crack?

[@parry5374]

@@jackgillin612 VARANE isn’t a new signing tho

[@DJRamrod7]

I love how confidently wrong Theo and friends are lol. Reev dub. Man knows ball.

[@Blue_manc]

This aged well

[@ghostk6674]

Broke the prem goal record for 60 mill who was wrong then lol

[@Amanda-ue6kk]

Damn you feel like a fuckin idiot now huh

[@DetBareMikkel]

If Haaland had scored 15 goals until now, which would still be great, I'd back Reev. However, he has beaten the golden boot tally from the previous 4 season half way through. And at 50 mil pounds that's unbelievable business. I know City are a great team, and most strikers would score a decent amount, but he's breaking records.

[@sim0lation748]

Giroud would be scoring double figures in that city team. Not taking anything from haaland, he is insane. The point is about impact you have in a team. Haaland hasn't taken city to a new level imo, but he was what they needed (and more) and 100% a top 3 signing.

[@mattiknowyourmum7521]

@@sim0lation748 chatting rubbish , City wouldn't be able to play those though defense cutting through balls to Giruod cause he's got no pace. Giroud wouldn't start for city.

[@abuhassan8849]

@@sim0lation748 Aguero, one of the greatest strikers in EPL history, never came close to Haaland's level? Why didn't he score that many in Man City if it was so easy?

[@Certi_Baller]

@@mattiknowyourmum7521 mate haaland has one of the slowest accelerations i’ve seen in football it’s got nothing to do with pace and giroud would do the exact same thing

[@Certi_Baller]

@@abuhassan8849 aguero had more to his game than haaland does. he scored a lot more than tap ins and could actually take on defenders

[@ashwinmoorthy6244]

Reev once again showing his ball knowledge is a tier above everyone else around him

[@dnkzimb]

Some shocking ball knowledge on display here, Reev is completely right how can Haaland be the best signing if city are worse than the last few years

[@004TOBY]

City being worse is because of players going out and injuries. Most of these other players have another signing that helps them as well

[@mlg-antz2365]

@@004TOBY no it's not. De bruyne foden mahrez gundogan and Bernardo silva goal tally have all gone down massively because the majority of the time they force the ball to haaland

[@mlg-antz2365]

De bruyne has 3/4 prem goals this season for example

[@limpan9999]

@@mlg-antz2365 While he is on his way to beat the assist record, youre so dumb

[@mlg-antz2365]

@@limpan9999 i said his goal scoring did I mention assists

[@duggs4456]

I think Reev is mad for Haaland at 3rd, but I 100% back him on Palhinha. Definitely top 10, arguably top 5

[@TheJWRB]

Why? Kane has 16 goals at this spurs team that is struggling… 16. Put him in that city team and he is also around 20-25 goals too. Defenders are grossly overlooked

[@ajduckii3699]

Theo is such a child 😂 honestly Reevs ball knowledge is levels above his.

[@Amanda-ue6kk]

Damn you feel like a fuckin idiot now huh

[@parteydzn7194]

Reev is absolutely spot on, don’t know how he can mention Paulinha but not Boubacar Kamara, for £0 I’d have Kamara top 3

[@LoftyTS3]

If we’re talking about impact, Haalands first season at City will be remembered in Prem history for as long as we live. No one else on the list is doing anything near to what he’s doing atm. This is madness

[@adjoub]

Its because ten years from now none is going to be watching every game to se who made a bigger impact but one glance at the stats will show you haalands goals.

[@ConanTheWej]

Yeah but rating transfers has to be based on their impact to the team. It's debatable that City would be better without him where as Botman has improved Newcastle dramatically.

[@hellohi1445]

@KaneyWarriorand also wins them a treble..

[@hellohi1445]

@HarryOKane123 so should we put di Maria as MVP of copa America 2021 since messi was also missing in the finals? Should benzema be ballon d’or for 2018 instead of ronaldo since ronaldo didn’t do anything in the finals?

[@hellohi1445]

@HarryOKane123 no. They wouldn’t have beaten Bayern that easily if at all without Haaland. Against Madrid, they’re not winning 4-0 without Haaland. Like Bernardo first goal, that space ain’t there without Haaland pulling the two CB’s. Also against inter, there was WAY too much space for Rodri. Mainly cause defender is focused on Haaland. I 100% guarantee city would’ve found a way to bottle the UCL without Haaland. They’ve done so for the last 6 years.

[@axhbae]

How can he claim that this is based on performance and then put Trossard on the list? He's played like 10 minutes for Arsenal so far

[@jacknelson927]

I know some people shouldn’t be allowed to talk about football at all

[@aashutoshchoudhary6392]

Reev is spot on with his point, its the impact the players have had on the team overall. City were still champs even without Håland, they still are 2nd. Without Botman and Casemiro, can’t see their respective sides in the position they are. And to call him dumb just because he has a different opinion says a lot about the others.

[@dulogmaz]

Exactly. Theo can be really annoying when he lifts his nose up

[@PremSharma-hh6nd]

Should have heard what the other guy said... U have the opportunity to bring a team from bottom half to the first half... How much can haaland improve man city if they were defending champ..

[@houdinilinguine]

Since when does the number of spots climbed on the table determine a single players impact? Newcastle have changed hands and Manchester United hired a new manager, nearly the whole of the teams themselves have been restructured so how can you put all their success on one player? That is just downright silly.

[@mattiknowyourmum7521]

By that logic no player city sign would be an improvement since they already won the league without them 🤡.

[@houdinilinguine]

@@mattiknowyourmum7521 Exactly, it makes no sense. That's why Tom made the argument that even if City signed God he couldn't win signing of the year.

[@apurvsingh61]

If Arsenal win the league, Theo will be the first one to say Odegaard should win POTY even if Haaland scored 100 goals this season.

[@oblidi123]

Absolutely lost it when Tom mentioned signing god 😂😂😂

[@Chidi_jc]

Ahlie

[@houdinilinguine]

It's honestly such a good point he made though, not even god could have the same impact in terms of spots climbed on the table than Sven has, it's impossible... which is why it's silly Reev used it as his main argument. Plus, Sven hasn't even done it himself. It's honestly just quite a silly argument

[@eeeeeetp]

The distance that Newcastle’s signings have taken their team is further than halaand has taken city

[@adam-z9e2j]

love how confident theo and the other guy were that reev would be crucified but everyone in the comments is agreeing with him hahahaha

[@CutAndStick]

I listen to Pitch Side whist working and i've just thought.. If I got £1 every time Theo had bad ball knowledge, I wouldn't have to work. Also, Reev is 100% correct. Best Signing isn't about goals, it's how they impact the team, City have remained the same and Newcastle are flying high. I'm not a Newcastle fan but their defensive stats this season are incredible.

[@ZxckGeez]

IN A DEBUT SEASON, IN A NEW LEAGUE. 25 Goals in 20 games… after Haaland leaves the league people will realise we had the best striker since R9

[@dangrifdhsbxjs8424]

Haaland has scored lots of goals, but he hasn’t had any impact on City at all.

[@suvampatra9449]

BOTMAN for me is the best signing

[@ITrevor25]

Given Leeds current place in the table im not surprised that Tyler Adams wasnt included but he has been a massive signing this season given his price. Man locks down midfields every week.

[@elliot6707]

the fact no one had akanji is outrageous

[@mrhussain9008]

I'm sure the point of a getting a big signing is to improve the team? Haaland has made City worse imo and for all the goals he scored his big game impact has been minimal recently. The amount of times City's play breaks down because he doesn't drop deep is a big problem why city concede so many chances recently.

[@rudymccann5893]

Do you still back this?

[@enemywithin1295]

Reeve is right - and he stood his ground, good lad.

[@stanley7223]

Tom saying Utd were in the conversation for top 4 at the start of the season is ABSOLUTE bollocks! and he knows it! we were predicted to have a shocking season, just look up PL predictions on KZbin before the season, you'll struggle to find that many that have us making top 4. People predicted liverpool to be at their usual best, arsenal to improve, Tuchels Chelsea to improve with massive transfer window and Spurs under Conte were looking pretty good - most people said we were the 6th best team in the country at that point

[@davidhellyer5632]

Toms argument tactic is just to scream the loudest ahaha common Reev W

[@jameswyatt4443]

The best signing is a question answered from the perspective of the club, and City have been worse with Haaland, therefore from Man City's perspective he is not the best signing of the window. Haaland has been the best player that was signed this season, but not the best signing.

[@reginaldtachie-menson3596]

It’s crazy how reev is always the only one with some sense🤦🏾‍♂️

[@fqq4137]

yep definitely aged well didn’t it

[@Amanda-ue6kk]

Damn you feel dumb now huh

[@Sahota2002]

Tom is spot on. Haaland is having an unprecedented season and it’s not being appreciated here

[@kushalkondaveti5889]

agree with reev, successful signing is not the amount of goals scored its the impact that player has on the team

[@RYID61]

Reev the only one that understands what makes a good signing

[@solgonzalez271]

As soon as someone starts shouting in an argument you know they've lost that argument 😭😭

[@euan2312]

Kane got the most goals and most assists a few seasons ago and didn’t win player of the season

[@MCFCTheMadHatter]

Gents, Haaland scored 25 PL goals in 19 games not 20. He was injured for 1 game. As for City defense, Pep has chopped & changed the backline so many times, there’s not been a single backline lineup and position that has stayed the same for more than 2 games. That’s what is sinking the defense as well as some of the injuries. But Pep hasn’t allowed the backline to build any chemistry or partnerships bc of all his changing to a degree we’ve never seen before.

[@Logan-gz7ep]

I'd have 1. Casemiro 2. Haaland 3. Botman

[@RRich100]

To toms point - city haven’t played with a striker for years. They’ve relied on 3-5 people getting goals and playing as a team. Not a system that creates opportunities for one player. Sterling, jesus, silva and mahrez is very different to Halaand

[@IFlip4wins]

I'm late to the party here but that was seriously entertaining boys! I don't think Reeve takes an L here. I understand the frustration that City didn't have enough improvement to do so Earling's impact but that's just how it is, isn't it... Great episode! Also Pope at #1 LMFAO

[@RRich100]

City will end on less points than previous years despite Halaands goals. Incredible goal scorer and one of the best signings, but it’s possible for other arguments to exist. Well done Reev.

[@MultiY4]

People have already forgotten United were gifted a goal against City.

[@WizzyBoy]

People forget that man United we’re robbed of two against Newcastle. LOOK MOM I CAN BE DUMB TOO.

[@edwardbane4032]

Go do something about it then.

[@Lo33y_]

@@WizzyBoy Wasn't one off side and the other ruled out cause the ref was waiting for the free kick to be taken. Like his arm is still up also known as play hasn't started.

[@dysonmegamind7238]

Reeve has taken an L but you kinda expect Haaland to break the record in this City team, its hardly a shock that he's breaking records 😅 Botman, Caesmiro have elevated their clubs. No one expected them to have the impact they've had so far but you expect Haaland to have the impact he's had. Best signing/best player shouldn't always be most goals scored.

[@TheGamingPanda20]

exactly, so why is it a Reev L when you just agreed that "best signing shouldn't always be most goals scored"

[@jameswhiting570]

As a newcastle fan i would still say haaland 1st because of his record so far but sven botman 100% 2nd and nick pope also top 5, good to see them getting the recognition they deserve

[@BigRake516]

Casemiro over botman only because new castles defense as a whole has been great and uniteds middlefield without casemiro looked awful

[@siddarthpothumudi]

How can Haaland be the best transfer, when he’s made them worse as a team and more one dimensional

[@lenl860]

You my friend do not understand football. City’s injuries in defence has been why they are worse, as well as players not putting in the shift to get back to defend. Nothing to do with how they attack. Playing stones as right back and Ake as left back would play a much bigger role in why they aren’t winning games

[@adamsorrell5098]

So true. Everyone is so stats based. All Haaland has done is score goals and everyone has gone straight to he is the best but the team has taken a hit from it

[@tonycaulfield7818]

Do some critical thinking. He has not made us worse.

[@mattiknowyourmum7521]

u lack ball knowledge.

[@adamsorrell5098]

@@mattiknowyourmum7521 okay.

[@jack-ziade]

Theo Baker tries so hard to make it seem like he knows ball

[@danielgregory7663]

Both Tom and Theo cant cope with being wrong. Reev was spot on

[@TracysTroopers]

One of the best cases to prove Reev is right is Ronaldo last season. Yes, he bought goals and some vital ones but those goals didn’t help the team, dynamic or position in the league. An individual is pointless if their effect on the team doesn’t help/detriments it. Haaland is insane. He’s a goal machine BUT he hasn’t massively (if at all) improved City. They could easily get second at this stage without him.

[@idkimkindadumb7729]

That’s just so different though

[@matthewbelmont8153]

why does the football community see high amount of goals and that makes them better than others

[@Blue_manc]

Because city at the time needed a striker, so they brought one in and he had the best individual season a striker has ever had in the premier league and won the treble in his first season

[@hakonedland2477]

To be honest I was surprised zinchenko was not top 5 in every list? He has been marvelous this season and is a BIG part of Arsenals success!

[@dominiclatham6243]

Reev W as per, only one who actually does these lists correct

[@mastermaestro172]

Surely the best signing, is the best signing for the club and as City are playing worse by trying to accommodate Haaland, and United and Newcastle are much better for Casemiro and Botman they are better signings?

[@archieclements2200]

I agree with reev. Halaand has been mental ye but he joined a team that has already been dominating England , his stats are unreal ofc he’s been sick and you’d be silly to not to put him in top 3 but city would’ve realistically been top 3 anyway . But case and Botman have changed their clubs, no one expected united and newcastle to be where they’re this season. Reev W

[@francie6278]

I think there’s definitely been other players in the Premier League that I’ve had a bigger impact than Harland, just because he’s scoring the goals doesn’t mean he’s the best player also this is why defenders don’t often win the big awards in football.

[@jaydensilver3210]

Theo doesn’t know 1 thing never watches ball reev brilliant

[@r.i.psteez929]

Saliba, Martinez and Stones better than Botman ? GET THAT CASUAL OUT OF HERE. Haaland has made City worse lol, Reev is yet again the most sensible person here. Also, I’m a defender of Haaland being a “tap in” merchant cause you have to be there to score them BUT jesus, it’s not like he’s doing a Luis Suarez, scoring all types of goals, he’s basically only scoring tap ins.

[@ilhamsaharuddin8258]

Love how the last list just take the piss out of Theo and the other guy😂

[@9oakSs]

Cats fucking insurance 😂😂

[@ivanelterrible87]

Reev with actual ball knowledge. Snapshot eye and Tom have that twitter ball knowledge 😂

[@villagorilla9099]

They’re all saying that Haaland has scored ridiculous amounts of goals, but I think I could score 10 for City in a season if you stuck me up front.

[@dulogmaz]

In comparison: Man City have scored 53 goals in 20 games this season with Haaland scoring 25. Last season without Haaland they've scored 51. Not a huge difference imo, so I'd agree with Reev on this one. Botman or Casemiro would be first for me

[@sethwilliams1499]

The best signing has been Casimero. He transformed United and we can see how much weaker without him. He really is the general of our team.

[@jwp.03]

The point of a transfer is to have an impact on the team and make them better, haaland has made them worse but he is still having an amazing personal season don't get me wrong but as a 'signing' he has made them worse so how can he be the best signing when he has done the opposite to what a signing is supposed to do.

[@rhinossss]

I’m sick of people saying this, please tell me why haaland has made city worse because this myth is becoming a joke

[@dulogmaz]

I wouldnt say he made them worse, but I would say he hasn't made his team better as much as Casemiro, Botman, Martinez or even Palhinha. At this point of the season City have scored 2 goals more than last season. Their defence is the biggest factor right now and, hey, Arsenal are just having an amazing season.

[@dulogmaz]

Haaland may be the best player out of all of them (maybe not Casemiro), but he hasn't filled a big of a hole as much as Botman, Martinez, Casemiro or even Palhinha.

[@harrymills916]

1. botman 2.haaland 3.casemiro if haaland made city a better team they would be clear of everyone in the league but they are trying to focus too much on getting him goals

[@timmy5876]

i’d say the best signing is from who gains their club the most positions in the table, haaland has been amazing but without him they’d still be 2nd or at very lowest 3rd, botman and pope have helped their team more than haaland as they’ve taken them up like 5 positions in the table

[@dionb7584]

This argument doesn't work at all. City can't climb up 5 places from last season . They were 1st

[@drdannydude123]

@@dionb7584 in this case we would consider that same jump as being comfortable in first place but they’re not even in first

[@timmy5876]

@@dionb7584 not exactly like that but u get what i mean, if newcastle go from 9th to third then whoever they signed has helped them more

[@futbal_editz6785]

I reckon top three is 3 haaland 2 botman 1 casimiro The reason is because that if you put haaland on a team like brentford or any mid table team he wouldn’t score half those goals the reason is he has the players around to feed him the passes and gets him all the tap ins even if he is in the right areas he wouldn’t get the right passes.

[@shivamnayak7163]

Martinez is the top 5 CB right now in pl and they don't even remember him

[@b3n3j]

City scored fewer goals this season than last season. All they did with Haaland was move the goals around. City won the league "without a striker" and now they've won the league with a striker, just with fewer team goals. This isn't fantasy football, and Reev is right.

[@varrusironfist4335]

And also won the treble... you forgot that part.

[@b3n3j]

I didn't forget that part. He didn't score in the final 6 games of the season. He didn't score in either leg of the Champions League semi final, despite City scoring 5, or score in the final. He didn't score in the FA Cup final. He's a magnificent #9 but I don't think he has been the difference-maker he's made out to be, hence why I don't think he's the signing of the season despite racking up plenty of goals. He didn't drag Man City to a treble, he just took part in it. You'd have a stronger argument if he hadn't scored so many goals but did score the crucial goals to get to the final, then win it. But he didn't.

[@Blue_manc]

@@b3n3jyou don’t think he’s been the difference maker? You’re so delusional. When he’s getting marked by 2/3 players he sacrifices himself to free up other players.

[@ethanw4060]

Completely agree with everything reev has said, haalands personal achievement is great but ultimately when he doesn’t score he doesn’t do anything, furthermore city actually look like a worse team and more one dimensional with haaland.

[@blainewitten3730]

Theo and Tom have had absolute stinkers here. It’s even more funnier because everyone is agreeing with Reeve when Theo said he’d take an L

[@DDfrmda5th]

I actually feel bad for reev having to deal with these bunch of fanboys they just say what everyone else says reev actually thinks about his list to make the show better

[@TheBigHaj]

Hardest job in football is goalkeeper, no idea where striker being the hardest job has come from. Especially with how much more goalkeepers are expected to do now.

[@sethwilliams1499]

this guy in the cap should never come on this show again. United was never in the talk for top 4 or evens top 6.

[@Cs7xx]

Guys an idiot what’s that accent 😷

[@lukemurphy169]

After this, Theo yet again proves his -0 ball knowledge

[@abyeadchowdhury2529]

Reeve can have this one sure because he’s taken a massive fat L. Not everyone plays the same. An arsenal striker plays differently to a Man City one it’s down to play style. You can’t expect Haaland to be doing what other strikers to do because that isn’t his role . Players have different attributes. Yes Haaland can’t dribble like other players but other players don’t have Haaland touch or positioning . Both are good it’s just a matter of preference that the coach wants to implement into their system. If ppl agree with reeve then you can’t agree with benzema winning the ballandore, that man required a lot of service .

[@TheGamingPanda20]

you completely missed the fucking point Reev was making. How many goals did City score last season without Haaland.....loads. How many games did Newcastle lose last season without Botman/pope loads. The point he is making and the point of a great signing is the impact on the club. Their impact has drastically changed Newcastle where Haaland hasn't drastically changed City.

[@jameswyatt4443]

the point is he doesn't fit their system though, Benzema fits Real Madrid.

[@Prime1Wunna]

Benzema also facilitates a lot of Madrids play style… have you see haaland trying to facilitate ??😂

[@abyeadchowdhury2529]

@@TheGamingPanda20 I understand that . However what else would you expect Haaland to do. They signed the best striker this season for 50 million which is a bargain . Plus reeve also said Haaland doesent deserve player of the year because of impact. You should base that on an individual player performance. Other than this pep is a smart manager he wouldn’t get someone who wont fit their system. He isn’t ole gunner only signing big names. Haaland obviously does fit their system. The problem with city at the moment is their defence . So ppl saying Haaland doesent fit don’t have a clue about what they’re saying. Not directly at you Ofc. I understand your point but I just think it’s not fair to just look at impact alone

[@abyeadchowdhury2529]

@@TheGamingPanda20 I would agree with u if say Haaland has scored 15 goals . But he’s broken the goal record of last 4 golden boot holders. In half a season . And only cost 50 million

[@bestfullyy]

he's completely right about Botman and Casemiro being better signings that Haaland based on impact on their individual sides

[@sneakytacos773]

They’re arguing that Reev isn’t talking about the “best signing” whilst the whole point of signing a player is to IMPROVE YOUR TEAM!

[@cbc899]

I like Tom, Theo doesn't have a clue about football but their take on Haaland isn't 100% After 27 games City had scored 1 goal less than the same stage as last season even with all of Haaland goals. They aren't scoring anymore than they were before, they have changed how they play and are simply running everything through him. What he has done is unreal but his impact has changed much for City.. They haven't even increased their amount of goals.

[@houdinilinguine]

Haaland is actually just too world class that people have just adjusted to what he’s doing and actually expect it. They don’t understand that we are witnessing history, we are lucky to be watching this behemoth of a man. He scores goals for fun. I just wreckon no one has a clue the player he is and his spectacular skill level because they don’t watch City games but he doesn’t just walk around the pitch and hit tap-ins from KDB crosses. Just because City lost a few important pieces last summer in the transfer window and have gone down a level as a whole doesn’t mean that Haaland’s exceptional performance has to be diminished? Everyone just expects this type of output from Haaland without understanding what is actually being achieved here. And he was only 50-60 mil 🤦‍♀️ He might not just be the best signing this season but the best signing in the last decade

[@wesleybrown2683]

He’s made city worse because of the focus they put on him, like reev said when he doesn’t get chances what does he do? The goals he’s scored would come from elsewhere if city didn’t have him

[@houdinilinguine]

@@wesleybrown2683 That's a bogus response and you know it 😂 Why does the fact that he isn't getting chances devaluing him as a player or an elite signing? That's just the City team as a whole not being able to create opportunities for him... that's not any of his business. His job is to score goals. It's like saying Nick Pope is a horrible keeper because he never gets opportunities to stop shots, but what you have to understand is that when he gets the opportunity, he's an elite shot stopper. It's the same with Haaland, nearly every single player in the premier league (especially strikers) will play worse if the team around them is playing worse, and that's just simple logic and it's a part of football. That doesn't mean Haaland doesn't impact the game, is an ineffective player, or isn't signing of the year. I don't understand your point. So Haaland is worse because the City team is struggling more to create chances than last year? How tf do you know if he wasn't there than City would be on the same goals, that's just bogus😂 I dare you to actually watch a City game and see for yourself.

[@bujinfujin8603]

No one's doubting his level of skill, he's the best player in all of these lists, but as a signing for this season he hasn't elevated or changed his club in the slightest, City is the same, if not worse, team they were last year in terms of performance, whilst Newcastle and United are doing work.

[@thecarso]

There is a difference between "who is the best player who signed" and "who is the best signing".

[@danielnewman3428]

Reeve actually has class football knowledge, can tell these lot don't watch as much ball as him. Reeve actually explains his points the others just scream and go WHAT.

[@dannymason5873]

Theo how can you have Willian & Pereira for Fulham but no Palhinha? Do you watch football? Palhinha is the best signing of the summer!

[@martinjasper7650]

Listening to the prat saying Haaland is a worse signing than Botman is like listening to the biggest prat of them all - Mark Goldbridge. " United doesn´t need Haaland " Then United pay even more for Antony who are totally crap, and Wout Weghorst, who is a championship striker at best.

[@Hselym]

Kamara is a great shout near the bottom of the top 10, he'd be raved about if he was playing for a traditional top 6 side.

[@jorgecavazosjr2072]

Hardest thing to do is not score goals.. especially when most the goals he scores is tap ins.. clean sheets are the hardest thing to do

[@Nanou811]

The guy on the right sound like Gary Neville

[@ibby197]

Reevs point is completely valid, the toprhy for the most goals is golden boot. Doesn't make you automatically the best player. How can a player who gets like 6 to 10 touches a game but bags a ton of goals be the best footballer if his goals don't win his team the league

[@MalikSameer]

As a neutral who doesnt support any premier league club, i think reev is spot on. In todays world, most of the fans only look at goals which is why in their opinion Haaland is the best signing and you have to respect that but I feel like he hasnt changed the team massively and that City has been playing according to his strengths which is why he is on 25 goals this season so far and in second it is Phil Foden with 7 goals. Where as last season it was evenly spread and not just focus on one man to pass.

[@jameswyatt4443]

Reev has a great list.

[@sethwilliams1499]

I agree with Reev. His goals to game ratio is incredible but anyone can score so much goals in a city shirt. Plus City was better last season than this season.

[@Pdirac9]

If City were top of the league then it would obviously Haaland. But despite all his goals, they are second, so as a signing there is at least the chance that someone has been a better if you view it as the impact they have had on their team. I'm a Utd fan and I'm not certain it isn't Haaland still, but I agree there is a debate to be had.