Heated Gun Debate Between Colion Noir & Co-Founder of Gun Control Organization

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Pro 2A Advocate, Colion Noir, Gets in a Heated debate with John E Rosenthal, the Co-Founder of a Gun Control organization, Stop Handgun Violence.
John E Rosenthal: Is chairman of Stop Handgun Violence that supports Banning the most popular and commonly owned rifle in the country the AR-15, Magazine Capacity limitations, Background checks on Private Gun Sells, Taking Peoples Guns Without Due Process known as Red Flag Laws, and Other Gun Controls. (SHV) was the lead advocacy organization for the Massachusetts Gun Control Acts of 1998 and 2014.
Colion Noir: Is a Lawyer & 2A advocate that creates content that conveys complex arguments perpetuating the ideals of our constitutional rights in America regarding the 2nd amendment in a way that makes them simple and entertaining.
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[@rothandre6497]

Honestly, this wasn't a debate. It was Colion trying to discuss and debate, and John doing mental gymnastics to support his untenable views.

[@johnkolinoff8591]

Exactly.

[@doom2ruler]

John could not answer a single question and had to try to end-round it every time. It was never an answer, it was, "So you want..." He couldn't stop straw-manning!

[@truthcomedy.]

As they do Verbal Judo, Mental Gymnastics...this guys are MMA of logic system, but this guy is worst than McGregor fails on his own logic.

[@capnjs]

His responses reminded me of how the guys who get caught wearing fake military uniforms react when they get called out on their inconsistencies. Grasping at straws trying to sound authoritative while having a complete lack of the fundamental knowledge required to do so. Unfortunately, as these clowns in uniform fool many people, so to will this idiot claiming to be "pro second amendment" while in the next breath saying that women should be banned from owning the most accurate and easy to aim home defense weapon (AR 15).

[@DeusVeritatis]

Fudds usually live like that.

[@HonestTakesAll]

When he said there’s a 5 rd limit for deer and 3 for duck, there is no limit for people. Yes there is… the limit is zero. You’re not allowed by law to hunt humans…

[@BooksNGuns]

Facts

[@kalebcook7215]

this comment is underrated

[@kevinm.328]

True, and if someone is trying to kill me why would I limit myself on ammo? Hold on bad guy, you only have 10!? Let me unload 20 of mine. Now it's fair🤣

[@spencerjensen1993]

Hahahaha! Nice.

[@jimhirka9395]

If you find yourself in a fair fight, your tactics suck. - John Steinbeck His arguments revolve around how many rounds police etc have which indicates some type of fairness debate.

[@Groudon22759]

As a cop we don’t carry 13 round mags. My pistol has a 20 round extended. My Service rifle has 30 rounders plus 50 round drums. 🤷🏻‍♂️

[@Gimpinator23]

John is using the debate tactic known as “if I ramble on for minutes at a time while making countless different points he’ll forget to destroy every single one of them.”

[@AnxietyAttack.]

It’s called a gish gallop. Very common in politics and little kids.

[@RileyPierce_]

He forgot to make points though💀

[@Imnotsurewhattoput798]

@@AnxietyAttack.Thank you for teaching me a new term.

[@zyxwvutsrqponmlkjihgfedcba0]

A friend I used to talk to did this all the time about any topic. Just stopped talking to them one day.

[@zachtretbar7817]

John Rosenthal answered exactly 0 questions, while also contradicting himself.

[@Barefoot433]

I agree.

[@potterj09]

He taught me today that .223 rounds are the ones'what tumble ... hahaha.

[@user-dp2km4zv5f]

Just like Biden

[@zackanderson8942]

All Dems are commies bro listen to what he says

[@user-bq1yz3xr4u]

@@potterj09 yea he obviously has no idea what he’s talking about I think 223 is small honestly and military weapons are automatic weapons amazing how he can start an anti gun organization and have no idea about guns

[@THEKITPLUG]

The biggest fundamental difference is one side has 100% faith in the government to never do evil and the other side does not.

[@mcbean1]

And that the latter side has faith that guns are an effective form of protection from said government

[@padywac1970]

Bingo!

[@bulrydrdan]

@@mcbean1 It worked for the people of Vietnam and Afghanistan.

[@mcbean1]

@@bulrydrdan well seeing what wonderful places those are I have to really question your understanding of the word "worked"

[@bulrydrdan]

@@mcbean1 It doesn't have to be your utopia to answer the question that gun protected themselves from said Government. See I lived in the real world for 50+ yrs and all over this world. While you have lived where? So my understanding of the real world may be differant than your understanding of a small portion of it.

[@TheMoodyLoners]

There's no doubt that guy will never again agree to debate a 2A advocate who knows what he's talking about.

[@mrbm9222]

Don't underestimate stupid people. He came away strutting thinking that he convinced every listener that he a genius.

[@SWZ32TT]

To be honest... most people who debate on the side of 2a are actually way better informed than those on the anti-2a side. Not just because they support guns... but they can actually form arguments on the fly backed by facts with proper terminology. The other side regurgitates talking points with poor or flat out false information and an inability to understand the terminology they use.

[@Zachary-]

"I LET YOU SPEAK." while never actually letting him speak.

[@tr3boz528]

ah yes, the american politician…

[@wakeupatnightable]

Was just about to comment this. He tried to bulldoze the conversation.

[@kelseymcgarrah2858]

I think everybody who's a 2A advocate in this comment section needs to take a moment to really be thankful for colion noir and the fact that he is eloquent enough to put people like this in their place and make them look as dumb as they really are, I personally thank you colion we need more men like you in this cause

[@ryanramos3286]

🙏💪

[@alwaysfreedom9354]

He is a great man! We should also support the authors, like John Lott and John Grit, who support the human right to own and carry guns. Beyond that, they support freedom itself.

[@stevengirardi6542]

Colion is always on point. John however is the epitome of his side. He obviously has no education on guns, "all the tissue damage the 223 does" ??? Sorry, go get educated before attempting to have a conversation on the topic!

[@NB-no7lh]

👏🏻

[@TheBurkey426]

Well said!

[@deebee4575]

“I’m pro 2nd amendment but” -conversation over.

[@ivankrylov6270]

Im not racist but...

[@xGuns0fHonorX1]

No the conversation shouldn’t be over. That mindset is why you have these problems. Do you see Colion ending the conversation when he does that? No! You may make a point that resonates with them after that conversation is long done and over with and just like now, more people may here it and be able to learn from it... Stop treating your individual values as higher than mighty when it is your responsibility to have that conversation even with the worst of them.

[@jimhoover7345]

@@xGuns0fHonorX1 I agree with you.

[@RaspingPompano2]

Agreed!!

[@very7962]

@@xGuns0fHonorX1 we have absolutely ZERO business to do with anti-2nd amendment traitors. The most they will ever get from us, is a laid out “MOLON LABEN” and that’s it.

[@kaleahsol]

The anti guy became unhinged way too quickly. Everyone was having a great conversation, but he quickly turned to "I let you speak, now let me speak." Colion wasn't trying to cut him off, he was just attempting to have an actual dialogue. This is exactly the kind of person I worry about. "Rights for me, but not for thee."

[@TrueHylianKnight]

That was very weird to me too.. The conversation was smooth and going well, plenty of common ground found then there was a cut in the audio. Now all of a sudden this dude was incredibly heated for whatever reason? I don't agree with the guy's stance on guns but that's sus asf

[@willbrink]

They are not logical nor fact based people, and allow their emotions to rule their mind, so no surprises there.

[@blackgazex5873]

Notice how emotional certain types get in normal discussions once their arguments fall flat

[@boogiebam7104]

He sounds like a guy just spouting random things that his echo chamber normally agrees with

[@oronk60]

He's the type to hire armed guards and at the same time take arms from people that can't afford to do that.

[@stepside85]

I think it's funny that John is surprised by the fact that Colion uses a .223 round to hunt and then eat the meat when most hunters probably use a .30-06 round to hunt which is a substantially larger caliber, which was also a caliber of war.

[@LittleGreyWolfForge]

Dude really said it would shred all the meat in the animal 😂

[@nessington3006]

exactly what I was thinking, John probably uses .308 or .30-06

[@nickherigstad4294]

@@LittleGreyWolfForgeprolly got that one from Joy Behar and the rest of The View(less) 😂. But can’t rule out 7.62 either. Pretty sure that would be decent for hunting 😋

[@AnxietyAttack.]

@@LittleGreyWolfForgedude hasn’t hunted in his life. Its always the people with zero experience making these baseless arguments

[@LittleGreyWolfForge]

@@AnxietyAttack. Fr.

[@jonnyjl345k7]

The ‘I’m not anti-gun, I have a gun at home’ excuse is the equivalent to ‘I’m not racist, I have a black friend’

[@MM3Soapgoblin]

I bet his gun, if he even really has one, is still in it's case locked away in closet somewhere. I wouldn't be surprised if he bought one just for the talking point.

[@scottfrazier8105]

Well realistically he isn't anti-gun he's really just against we plebs having them. I guarantee that he and his elitists buddies feel like they are much more mature and responsible than all the people arguing against them gatekeeping our Constitutionally guaranteed right to bear arms. I'm going to go out on a limb here and say that this is the kind of guy that refers to Jan 6th as "The Insurrection". So he is FAR worse than the Anti-Gun people who have been lied to so much by these gutter snakes that they are irrationally terrified of guns. They are just misguided but this SOB and all those like him are DANGEROUS.

[@scooty6410]

Lol...that's priceless lol

[@QueerArmorer]

It's straight up "I don't walk around carrying a gun I have the help carry them why don't you?"

[@jonnyjl345k7]

@@QueerArmorer…what?

[@ryderpaskevich857]

"The AR-15 is not a weapon that Law Enforcement carries" Every cop with a patrol rifle: 😐

[@chevyguyy454]

Thats comment suprised me too

[@austinbarry64]

It just puts things into perspective of how out of touch with reality people like John really are

[@ayomrwhiteigotdrip6235]

James Freeman: hold my camera

[@chasemealor9189]

I was so confused to I was like every officer I’ve ever met has a ar-15 service rifle in the trunk of there patrol car or passenger seat

[@burtbiggum499]

There is a department that carries a tavor in arizona

[@ReaIHuman]

This is why anti-gunners refuse to argue with you. They know they're wrong and are genuinely malicious when it comes to having a debate.

[@speed6407]

I don't own a single assault weapon . Every firearm i own is a defense firearm!

[@SilentKillAirsoft]

“Police only have pistols with 13-15 rounds as their service gun.” More often than not police officers have an AR-15 in their patrol car rather than a shotgun.

[@Urmom-mm6dk]

I’ve never seen a cop NOT have an AR in their patrol car

[@Someguy6571]

Exactly!

[@SilentKillAirsoft]

@@Urmom-mm6dk some agencies that have less funding usually still have cops carrying shotguns. I also know of agencies that require extra training for police officers to be able to carry an AR-15 instead of a shotgun. But yeah AR-15s are carried by a lot of police officers nowadays so this John guy is very misinformed.

[@frustaci9]

@@Urmom-mm6dk most agencies in MA have ARs in their cruisers along with patrol rifle quals in the academy

[@kadoozie3567]

Let's not forget that LEOs are not subject to any of the firearms laws in Massachusetts. They can buy any capacity magazine and any firearm they would like for their own personal use. And even if they quit / retire they are allowed to keep them because Ma doesn't outlaw owning these things, just the purchase. If I can pass a background check to buy a weapon then you're already trusting I won't use it to commit a crime so why put an arbitrary limit on what I can own at that point?

[@rickalexander2801]

Rosenthal: " I don't need an AR-15" Patriots: It's called a "Bill of Rights", not a "Bill of Needs"

[@billgoobinhoffer4705]

Then he says he owns a Daniel defense 5.56. Hypocrite!

[@Dr.pikachuu]

I love this lol

[@Haveablessedday820]

@@billgoobinhoffer4705 it’s different he has money For these people if you got enough money you can own anything

[@joshmueller1212]

Then why does he have one?

[@ponycentaur1456]

when Rosenthal says you dont need an AR. That is why i will buy TWO Ar

[@Turboy65]

The historical application of "militia" has NEVER been as "national guard".

[@thomaswhite5928]

Colion answered every question directly. John sidestepped every question by focusing on his narrative. Mr. Noir did outstanding 👏

[@robbywoolums9071]

For someone who runs “stop handgun violence,” he sure does talk a lot about rifles.

[@fotaugrafee]

Colion said it best in his foreword, that he's nothing more than an anti-gun or gun control shill, regardless of how many or what firearms he owns.

[@kayp.3832]

The left ALWAYS contradicts themselves. I'm sure he also thinks a toddler isn't a full person either. They're literally all a walking joke.

[@hmanontario]

When he described the "devastation" caused by a .223 round, and questioned the ability to consume game taken with that round, it threw his credentials/credibility as a gun owner right out the window. Owning firearms out of convenience to bolster your point, as if to say, "Hey I'm one of you guys, I got the inside scoop" is so disingenuous.

[@fotaugrafee]

@@hmanontario In CN's comical libtard voice, "OMG, it like, turned it into venison shrapnel!!"

[@trivory59]

@@kayp.3832 what's crazy is for the most part I'm a Democrat but believe the 2A is one of the most important ammendment. I stand on both sides depending on the subject but I strongly believe that the 2A shall not be infringed

[@FoxholeIndustries]

John is making every stupid argument we always hear. He doesn’t sound additionally educated on it compared to your average anti gun nut. He became frustrated with colion quickly and contradicted himself many times. He needs to pick a new cause because he’s not good at fighting for this one.

[@joshbechaistron791]

I was thinking the exact same thing and you beat me to it lol. Yeah john is just pounding out the same anti-gun tropes we've all heard a million times. He's uninformed, out of touch and falls back on worn out defense mechanisms instead of presenting a valid argument.

[@kokonanana1]

How about controlling drugs in Massachusetts? Death from guns 3.4/100,000. Deaths from drugs 31.8/100,000. Check the CDC!!! He is not worried about safety, he is worried about CONTROL!!!

[@beargillium2369]

@@kokonanana1 very good point, and I'd bet that drugs are involved (if not the direct cause) in most of the gun deaths as well, in a myriad of ways.

[@sweetiespoon5150]

Logical fallacies abound! This man John is an incredulous hypocrite.

[@factspirate99]

He does it because he knows how to get rich doing it.

[@im-that-guy-pal]

Your billboard did nothing but add add a 250 foot eye sore. Genius.

[@Benjanuva]

Can you give me a definition of "assault weapon"? Proceeds to give an emotional response to the loss of human life by an AR-15. That's not a definition! Then proceeds to completely misunderstand how powerful the .223 round is. "You eat what you hunt with a .223!?" "...Why wouldn't I?"

[@themountainbru533]

“ you going to fight the US government who has nuclear weapons, tanks and drones with your AR15” well the Taliban seemed to do just fine with their AKs

[@qssneaky]

Our military took an oath to protect America against foreign and DOMESTIC enemies. It would only take a couple of generals to side with The People to turn things around real quick.

[@uppastdawn7627]

My thought exactly.

[@brentsaylor1725]

Well to be fair they got their ass kicked. They were able to inflict plenty of carnage. But they cannot win a straight up fight against the US Military.

[@getitdonegarage]

Epic

[@shadowfyre8265]

So did the koreans and vietnamese, if the can do it we can too

[@jeffro1643]

So, if the 2nd amendment doesn't apply to modern firearms, why does the 1st amendment apply to television and the internet? 🤔

[@wethepeople2933]

BeCaUsE a TeLeViSiOn CaN LaUnCh iNfOrMaTiOn FaStEr!!!!

[@jasonisfamous6544]

Cause they are private platforms?

[@Ellis1993]

@@jasonisfamous6544 any platform public and private must adhere to the constitution

[@ICantBelieveItsButters]

you have to be careful making that argument because the left is looking for any reason to tear down and rewrite the constitution because it is "old" and "dated". If the left can trip you into saying things like "why does the 1st apply to TV and internet?" and you are fueling their desire to change the 1st amendment also. Just like the left tripped the right into this whole "mental health" so they can backdoor your med records (Right to Privacy) "to see if you have a history of mental health issues" and then your right to due process of needing to actually commit a crime to be held accountable for doing one. Why did the left lean into Mental health so hard? because the right didn't have enough foresight to realize the play wasn't to advocate for better mental health services (nothing has been done to remove negative perspectives of mental heath issues, and getting mental health services hasn't been made easier.) In fact, its been harder to get help and IF you do get help, you are instantly looked at as a threat to society because you may "pop off". The biggest reason for the left not just attacking gun and decoying people onto mental health? it also throws people off of the trail of the real societal problems. Studies on studies have been conducted and researched to show that 2 parent houses with a father and mother are less likely to have anxious children, less likely to have children that get into crime, more likely to graduate, more likely to be kind etc etc etc. Society is doing its best to paint men as "toxic" yet numerous studies show and support that FATHERS are where their children learn EMPATHY... let that sink in. Removing fathers from homes has removed EMPATHY, has increased mental problems, increased crime, reduced educated children and the list goes on. Why decoy to mental health? Because it removes the lefts responsibility to fix the problem they created by attacking the nuclear family AND it lines the pockets of BIG PHARMA (and politicians) by pushing drugs... It also infringes on your right to speech, right to guns, right to privacy and right to due process. To many are focused on the little picture of "but keeping guns from mentally unstable will save lives" and not realize they are advocating for removal of natural rights.

[@kool4209]

@@Ellis1993 except for the govt.

[@randallhackworth421]

Apparently I need to move, I’ve lived in 3 states, never bought a firearm without getting a background check. Didn’t even know it was possible.

[@chadreddish4002]

I love how John felt so entitled to talk without giving you a chance to respond. This happens on every debate I see. That’s not a debate.

[@JohnDoe-lx3dt]

I love watching these from the UK, where we banned all guns for self defence yet gun crime is on the rise. Don’t give up your rights and freedoms to these monsters

[@dnandez79]

Howdy from Texas. They aint takin anything from anyone. The second they start a door to door program the free men of America will rise up.

[@saongpark2423]

not to mention crimes with knives and other objects. And 60% hot home invasion because criminals don't worry about armed home owners.

[@jedeckert9525]

Thank you.

[@chetsjug]

No kidding like when they took the handguns from Australia crime went up and again when they had their BuyBacks for all long guns the home-invasion robberies increased tenfold!

[@Mike_H76]

I recently saw a 2018 article about a knife terrorist (Jihadist) in London... immediately the "bobbies" armed up with their AR's and patrolled the subways. They literally looked military, far more than US police. Of course, nobody was there to save the people knifed to death.

[@GarryReyom]

Every gun control advocate starts off with “I own a gun too”, yet they want poor people to be defenseless

[@robertsmith2956]

and then show they know NOTHING about guns. You can outgun cops. So what, then they better not try and choke me to death.

[@GOTBADRAP1]

And yet they seem to believe that a 223 will do more damage to a human than a 300 Winchester Magnum.. This just proves their ignorance of firearms..

[@williamcash231]

“Have a black friend” lol

[@robertsmith2956]

@@williamcash231 My black friend has a white gun, while I have a black gun. We are equal. Although my grips caught that michael jackson disease and are turning white slowly.

[@klivityloja3067]

Or they have a .22

[@johndotter351]

To buy a gun legally everyone goes through a NCIS Background check from an F.F.L. Dealer!

[@krazyCat556]

The minute co founder said he’s a business man that told me all I needed to know .

[@DustinSilva]

This didnt age well...Just today, Smith & Wesson announced its plans to relocate their Massachusetts gun manufacturing facility to Tennessee, purely because Mass's gun laws are too strict.

[@slypperyfox]

What took them so long? Many gun manufacturers and accessories manufacturers (think MagPul) began moving to gun friendly states 5-10 years ago.

[@asphaltannihilator157]

Should have saved on moving costs and came up here to NH to join Ruger and Sig.

[@Devildogs1775]

SO DID GLOCKSTORE

[@Devildogs1775]

GLOCKSTORE LEFT CALIFORNIA TO TENNESSEE

[@moreforme74]

@@asphaltannihilator157 but it's colder up there.🥶

[@joeyruth5224]

Ah, so we have the “I’m a gun owner but…” guy. He doesn’t support the 2A.

[@screamingwarhog]

Yup ban for thee not for he

[@reesyman8354]

So similar to when someone be like “I’m not racist, my friend is.....”

[@darthkahnobis]

You know a gun debate hasn’t started well when the opposition claims to be a gun owner. As this somehow means something. Is every car owner a “car guy” Pretty sure Chipman owned a gun too…before he LOST it!

[@wingsclippedwolf]

He's the jackass who sees himself as a member of the "elite club" of selected gun owners.

[@notallthatbad]

"but I just want 'common sense' restrictions, blah blah blah." That fallacy often follows. It's often employed by people too lazy to think things through.

[@mattpolinsky4234]

This guy consistently saying he’s pro-2A and not for gun bans but says he wants to ban AR-15s is both the funniest and scariest thing about this entire debate. Also the fact that he said he owns one and admitted to the purpose of the 2nd Amendment and then claimed it would never happen.

[@rickludwig184]

So if i meet a guy at a gun show and he sells me a firearm -illegally-without a background check, that’s “the gun show loophole.” Does that mean if I meet a guy at a Walmart parking lot and buy his gun-without a check-then it’s the o’l “Walmart lot loophole?”

[@batmanstrike8287]

I think it's ridiculous that John keeps dodging every question. Props to Colion for being the only one who gave straight answers

[@yknowiknow5937]

Not just that, John's clueless, about the meaning, of the CONSTITUTION and he's a LIAR, his info is nonsense, wherever, it came from.🤔😒

[@debravictoria7452]

Seems like no matter what the question is, he just repeats his talking points. And, did he really, seriously quote the cdc?🤦‍♀️

[@spencerwarren9219]

Notice john isn't a politician. That's why he answered the real questions.

[@gdknght9581]

when you dodge questions... YOU ARE DODGEY !!!

[@grimfandango6137]

John is a typical Boston Liberal, and as I live in Boston, I have seen the huge billboard he has been responsible for for years, right facing the Mass Turnpike at Fenway Park. On this billboard he has posted every virtue-signalling leftist cause you can think of. The current anti-gun campaign is just the latest. He claims to be a "gun owner" He claims to be "a proud owner of a Daniel Defense 5.56 and thousands of rounds of ammunition". He claims to be a "hunter". I will bet my house to a jelly donut that this Boston liberal has never owned a gun in his life, probably never even touched one. He would be ostracized by his circle of Cambridge liberals if he did. This is merely a debating tactic and it does not fly by me.

[@chikkenbonz]

Man that wasn't even fair. Colion was having an intellectual debate with an unarmed opponent.

[@jasonmacneil2256]

🤣

[@quartqwertbudisgood]

Cops don’t cart AR15s bahahahahahhahahaha so many cops have ARs in their cars

[@cjwessels8612]

@@quartqwertbudisgood this comment has nothing to do with what you are talking about lol

[@haydenlanning5674]

It was John's right to arm himself. It was his mistake that he didn't. He'll probably propose some kind of intellectual disarmament bill. "How could your level of education combat government intelligence??? Why do you need to be literate."

[@geraldmantanona6116]

Colion versus this guy in this debate is like Explaining astrophysics to a whino.

[@Imugi007]

Lemme get this straight. This guy works for an organization called "stop handgun violence," but thinks that "military style assault weapons" are the problem? What?

[@glenncharles6622]

We need more of these discussions

[@iridium1118]

I'm reasonably certain it isn't legal to hunt humans with ANY size magazine.

[@MinnesotaCouchpotato]

When I heard him say it, I had to rewind the video a few times, I couldn't believe it. 12:15 if anyone is interested.

[@robn2666]

😭😭🤣🤣

[@cliffyknight]

Yeah, that was a dumb fucking thing for him to say. Equating hunting ducks with being a murderer of which you don't have to get a license for.

[@itsirish9582]

@@cliffyknight he pretends like any AR-15 owner is going down to the sheriff's office to apply for their murder license lmao what a moron

[@JanstonCordell]

It's a damn good thing then that Communists aren't human.

[@karlchristie1856]

John, who “hunts:” You’d eat a dear shot by a .223?!?!? Colion: Uh… yeah?… This right here says it all. Colion I’m sorry you were put through that cringe fest.

[@nickmeyring7888]

that was Hilarious

[@chris.3711]

Boy, should I tell him that I hunt with a .270 and .308?

[@brianpartlow5530]

He thinks that little 223 round explodes like a nuke because it's fired from a "military style" rifle.

[@sanangelo7926]

These people somehow think that the 223 is some sort of magical round they doesn’t follow the laws of physics and causes what ever it hits to disintegrate.

[@tinkhama1088]

Well he’s more than likely unable to place a good shoot and is probably use to tearing up a front shoulder or back strap. He is also the guy that probably doesn’t know how to ethically harvest a deer and then pays some one to process for him, just an opinion.

[@kneeltojesus8600]

John was not arguing in good faith and he was simultaneously intellectually dishonest.

[@scottmckenna]

You’re a hero Colion. Thanks for being willing to speak the truth with respect.

[@hezi6034]

Why did his “I’m a gun owner! I support the second amendment!” Statement sound like “I’m not racist! My best friend is black!” Just because you own a gun doesn’t mean you support what the 2nd amendment stands for

[@donnieeck3176]

It sounded more like the "It's okay, I'm with the Government, I'm here to help." To me lmao

[@taramoon9307]

Hitler owned guns, so Hitler was pro gun ownership for all the plebeians.

[@ah64dbeast37]

This guy believes it's legal to hunt humans 12:15

[@donnieeck3176]

@@ah64dbeast37 that is the most dangerous game ☺

[@ThaTruKru]

😂

[@Mr.Solomon0]

12:05 Damn, 23 years on this Earth. And I never realized it was legal to hunt humans with 30 round magazines. That's got to be the dumbest anti gun statement I've ever heard in my entire life.

[@onpoint2292]

That was one of many mask-off moments for John Rosenthal. He views the 2A as a privilege and wants to limit the gun-owning population as much as possible. He is too focused on tragic stories of people dying, and not considering the ramifications of limiting people's ability to defend themselves. The calls for more regulation after a mass shooting will never stop. The 2A community needs to stop ceding ground in an attempt to appease the emotions of grieving parents and victims. The more people have direct experience with guns and gun ownership, the less these BS emotional arguments work on people. The most effective solution is to encourage eligible citizens in our sphere of influence to own guns. Take them shooting with you. Educate them on Gun topics when it pops up in conversation. Take them hunting with you, if you're into that. Demystify the concept of normal, everyday people owning "assault weapons".

[@mattseifert8061]

I love how he says it with confidence too.. he says "where's the logic." I'm thinking, where's the logic with that statement.😂😂 I'm very surprised colion didn't call him out on that stupidity..

[@onpoint2292]

@@mattseifert8061 he would have been accused of "interrupting". You've got to pick your battles in timed debates. If you address every single point of disagreement, it quickly turns into a "nuh uh - yuh huh" type of exchange.

[@mattseifert8061]

@@onpoint2292 you're right. It would have been very satisfying though. That dude literally said when he hunts humans he's not limited at all.. but in his mind, the correlation of hunting humans is illegal, therefore no new law is going to prevent someone from doing something horrible, somehow didn't connect in his head.. I'm almost lost for words I can't even wrap my head around something that stupid.

[@RobinMasters-zx1uo]

@@mattseifert8061 it would be a distraction; like focussing on someone taking a pawn in chess rather than focusing on protecting the king. But great point on the appeal to logic.

[@xDirmeyerNFL]

Was hoping this was longer honestly

[@codybruce6510]

“Look I’m not gonna answer the question, and keep repeating the same thing over an over”

[@xcal_99_industries32]

“Stop handgun violence” *talks about why we can’t have Ar-15s*

[@insidethefire1]

exactly. the left is full of double speak and hidden. ill never vote democrat againl.

[@qcdsticks]

It's because he's not trying to save lives he's trying to ban guns. Every single time I hear "I support the 2nd amendment, but..." I immediately know they actually don't. They "try" to level with us true 2nd amendment supporters. They use straw man arguments and try to use emotion to push laws it's all a face

[@funnyfack9854]

Dude's arguments are weak af Colion strong with it

[@taylorsessions4143]

Colion: I win if I present a sound argument John: I win if I don't let him speak

[@jordanvalle6389]

He really did cut him off a good 30 times but good forbid if Colion had a point to add to his stuff.

[@salinora0]

sums up not just this debate. but the entire gun debate as a whole

[@robostyle9773]

Such a great video thank you!

[@SavedbyHisGrace73]

Subbed and thanks for what you do, Colion. 🙌

[@mudbucket1650]

"I support the 2nd Amendment" goes on to discuss how he would infringe upon it.

[@turkey1337]

That's the new tag line from Anti-2a. I figured if you support 2A, you wouldn't need to declare it. If you don't support 2a, you would need to say it to help disarm the other side.

[@TheOfficialJayP]

it's the same logic with "christians" who start out saying "i believe in God BUTTTTT" and then go on to describe a version of god in their mind who is okay with some sins 🙄

[@lukedavis8912]

“You can hunt humans with 30 rounds but ducks with only 3” is the dumbest thing I’ve ever heard

[@menamiller50]

seems like I saw somewhere that hunting humans is illegal, is he saying we should legalize it?to be fair the guy was consistent with his stupidity so he has that going for himself

[@SuperUnemployable]

I had a "WHAT" face when he said that

[@whiplash5026]

That's how they do it and get support from the masses ... They emotionally rattle the weak minded by saying idiotic shit and what really sucks is people actually support idiotic statements

[@gen3kali877]

It’s genius! Because defending yourself against someone trying to kill you is the same as hunting a duck!

[@SuperUnemployable]

@@gen3kali877 THATS RACIST!!! LOL

[@scottysupermoto69]

I commend you for your knowledge and patience ❤

[@jacoblussier999]

“Cops don’t carry rifles!” The rifle in the trunk of the cop car: 😐

[@DeltaBravoOpr8r]

The FEMALE moderator just demolished John’s emotional arguments at the very end by calling him out.

[@Cjusmc28]

That was my favorite part of the whole thing! Perfect illustration of his inability to be reasonable.

[@TheCoolwhipped]

I was pleasantly surprised by the moderators, though the standard radio format ruined the flow.

[@southerninterloper4107]

Both of the moderators were surprisingly reasonable (perhaps even pro-2A). I expected this to turn into a "The View" style crap-fest but it didn't even come close.

[@turkey1337]

@@southerninterloper4107 Agree! The moderators were surprisingly reasonable and fair. I just didn't like the format of it though.

[@762x69]

John was childish and ugly there at the end having his arm twisted to say Colion doesn't want people hurt. Money and a nice neighborhood doesn't buy class. John is in short supply of such.

[@nonnacssalg8616]

"He thinks it's okay to own a Tank" Founding Fathers: "I'm sorry, I can't hear you over the sound of my privately owned canon"

[@christophervanoster]

And warships

[@Secure_It_T]

Lmao exactly

[@kingscairn]

If the govt owns tanks - I want one - I pay for them and just might need one to defend my family - FROM THE FCKN GOVT !

[@handsometall28]

Founding Fathers: Colion is considered a property, he is a slave. The abolition of slavery is unconstitutional

[@RNKel1]

@@handsometall28 you didn’t have to say that…

[@A.Navarre]

Where does he buy firearms because I’ve always had to have a background check when purchasing a firearm.

[@TheDirtyyoungman1]

Thank you, Colion. PLEASE keep doing what you do.

[@Void304]

"I support the Second Amendment, BUT..." They always, ALWAYS start their bullshit the same way.

[@Mr.Rogers91]

The other one that irritates me..... I'm a lifetime member of the NRA but..... anything after that sounds like gibberish.

[@n3r0wolfe]

everything said before the word 'but' doenst mean anything

[@DavidBrown-qh5cr]

"No offense...... BUT"

[@nathanhamberg6733]

or they talk about hunting or constantly saying that the AR-15 is a military weapon when people start with that there argument is done because they do not know what they are talking about

[@revike004]

How can YOU compare a civilian AR-15 to the Vegas shooting senerio? Talk, TALK .TALK. MAKES NO SENSE !

[@original0c]

He said "when you hunt humans." We're not hunting humans, we're defending ourselves from humans.

[@OutlawRemy86]

Yeah, that made me physically pause when he said that.

[@towakin7718]

Nono, it is important that when four people come to kill you and do unspeakable things to the women in your house, you only kill a maximum of three of them. After all we have to be careful the population of criminals will not be endangered. Also make sure it's criminal hunting season or you'll get a fine...

[@erikjimenez5851]

I laughed internally when he said that "You can have large magazines to hunt people!!" and I'm like... hunting people isn't legal though lmao

[@mavhunter8753]

John understand the power of words. This is the same reason he calls his org “stop handgun violence”.

[@kennethmarkwith4678]

Yeah, what an insane statement. This John guy is an idiot. What I thought when said that was 'it's kind of already illegal to do that buddy'....

[@PsychoC4rnivore]

“Whats your AR-15 gonna do against a government with tanks, planes and nukes?” All those things have operators who can be taken out by AR-15s.

[@efreutel]

Rosenthal in passing states he has visited Warsaw and European WW2 concentration camps. How many European Jews ever said “Thank God we have no guns!” Rosenthal should be ashamed of himself.

[@spikedwk]

This guy has literally no idea what he's talking about. Him owning guns is a terrifying thing, he is the type of person who should not own any weapons since he refuses to educate himself on them.

[@tedubadu2536]

If I'm at the range and an instructor says "ok now put the ammunition magazine in the handle" I'm revoking his NRA instructor badge 😂

[@bradcallahan3546]

but but... the government has nukes and so you can't use an AR-15 against it... therefore you don't need one!

[@kemohere]

You guys are crazy. He taught me so much. Im ditching .223 and using 30.06 from now on. Im gonna have so much more usable meat. These squirrels are gonna be delicious.

[@rebchizelbeak5392]

He likely “owns” a gun in the same way most people have only the minimum $5 in a savings account. He has a gun, unloaded, locked, in a double safe that has never been opened.

[@rebchizelbeak5392]

@@kemohere Cannons are legal. And don’t even need a background check. Use them instead. You can fire golf balls, beer cans, or bowling balls. For about $300-$700. Less than a Glock. And it saves time tenderizing squirrel meat.

[@potatosniper5340]

"I support the 2nd Amendment, I have firearms," is like saying "I'm not racist, I have a black friend."

[@billbennett9537]

Was thinking the very same thing.

[@Mike_H76]

Valid point, but what if I have 5 firearms and 5 black friends?

[@masonmainpage4105]

Its more like "Im a man and my "girlfriend" is transgender but Im not gay"

[@wompadoompadoomp9487]

@@masonmainpage4105 take my like!!

[@nachoakajrod]

Amen

[@senorgogagog]

From a 2016 survey, only 7% of the estimated 287,400 criminals who possessed a firearm during their offence legally purchased it under their own name, and even fewer used it during their offence. It's not typically the _guns_ that are illegal; it's that the _owner_ doesn't legally possess them. I'm not even American, and yet it baffles me how few of them actually do any research on the matter other than looking at death statistics!

[@danielwharrison]

"John, can youdefine what an assault rifle is?" John- "hold on, let me stand on these dead childrens bodies because I don't know what an assault rifle is."

[@staticivi]

So the answer is… whatever he decides. Because there was no actual definition. We should ban a hammer… because you can literally make someone unidentifiable with that… or a rock… assault weapons…

[@danielwharrison]

@@staticivi more murders are committed with hammers/blunt objects every year than with AR-15s, so don't give them any ideas.

[@kylelloyd700]

@@staticivi 'aye, you got a permit for that brick, son?' smh...

[@myles3856]

@@kylelloyd700 yup

[@reggaetonjones1988]

The grandstanding is so bad with this guy.

[@BlackOmegaWorks]

John is basically an NPC reading his programmed script. He kept saying "when I hunt" when every educated person knows 2A isn't about hunting.

[@drillsgtdad9371]

Exactly

[@TM_Stone]

John is a batch file. He double clicks on himself because he doesn't have a brain.

[@davidedwards1914]

He is framing the discussion. He knows that if he can relegate the meaning of the second amendment to hunting he can shut down the entire discussion around legitimate uses for force in defense of life, liberty and property. The fact is the second amendment is a right. Hunting is a hobby. The constitution has a bill of rights not a bill of hobbies.

[@honkbeforeitstoolate587]

Negative. Juice program NPCs. These are the creators, unfortunately.

[@_JC3_]

That was terrifying…. The man just described what an “assault weapon” is by appealing to horrific bloodshed of children. That is not a definition. You cannot say “I want to ban assault weapons” but refuse to answer the question “what is an assault weapon?”

[@LuisPena-mx7lg]

U were the right guy for the job 100% thank you!

[@sawyer4981]

"When you hunt humans" - this clown is literally assuming every gun owner is a mass murder out looking to slay everyone in their neighborhood, when in fact it's quite the opposite.

[@billenglish2804]

He claimed large capacity magazines were "legal" for hunting humans. Nothing about hunting humans is legal.

[@chrislosee4152]

@@billenglish2804 Nothing is legal for hunting humans! 20 rounds are illegal to hunt humans with, one round is illegal to hunt humans with!

[@MrAgentEcho]

He got his talking points right out of the mouth of Dianne Feinstein during a 2013 meeting. "We have federal regulations and state laws that prohibit hunting ducks with more than three rounds. And yet, it’s legal to hunt humans with 15-round, 30-round, even 150-round magazines." She also claimed that it's legal to hunt humans.

[@brkbtjunkie]

Typical leftist troupes out of that guy

[@kittengaming2746]

Haven't seen human tags yet when I go hunting hmm..

[@rabidsbr]

No surprise, John didn't even quote the 2nd Amendment correctly-- he omitted "of the People" when reciting the 2nd Amendment! This was intentionally dishonest.

[@Lotekrednek83]

Ya beat me to it…

[@Ujiyo]

Of course he's being dishonest. He's trying to push an agenda down Colion's throat and Colion isn't having it. He's throwing it right back in John's face and John has no idea how to respond in a meaningful manner.

[@vikings_hooligan79]

Being pro-2A and being a gun-control advocate is not possible. If a person truly understands the meaning/intent of the 2A they cannot be a gun-control advocate

[@kittikat3113]

I heard that, too. He purposely omitted “of the people “!

[@jameskazd9951]

there are multiple founders with quotes specifying the militia was made up of ALL THE PEOPLE. the militia is anyone fit enough to fight and with the tools to do so

[@joshualebovitz]

Rosenthal lost all credibility when he stated that he not only owns a firearm, but own an AR-15. Hypocrisy at its finest.

[@kevingraham3317]

This guy is trying to stop handgun violence and talks about at 15 the whole time typical politician

[@stephenmccaffrey199]

OMFG. The “it destroys meat” argument is ALWAYS made by someone who has no clue what a .223/5.56 round does.

[@Dr.pikachuu]

So does a slaughter house

[@peterlowell7963]

Timestamp?

[@KyberKommando]

@@peterlowell7963Starts at 20:47 Colion Noir destroy John's dumb AF argument.

[@r6dave807]

I absolutely agree!!! Somebody who was familiar with the .223/5.56 round or hunting in general, would know that there are much more powerful rounds used for hunting game than the .223. .308, 30-06, 12G slug, .44 Magnum, and so on and so on. This guy has no clue and his poorly constructed arguments make this crystal clear.

[@burtrandolph1745]

@@r6dave807 .44 Magnum is absolutely not more powerful than .223/5.56. Go shoot a .44 Mag and a 62 grain 5.56 out of a 18” AR barrel at some ballistic gel and tell me which one has a bigger/more dynamic wound channel.

[@deathmetalrudiments]

"Every single state, that has background check requirements, makes it a little harder for LAW ABIDING CITi...criminals" The most epic Freudian slip ever!

[@williamflowers9435]

Exactly. Gun control is not to make people safer. It’s to make the population more vulnerable and usher in more draconian laws and government dependence. Protect the criminals, for without them, the Democratic Party has no platform upon which to stand every 4 years in these cities where violence persists and, despite decades of Democratic leadership, no improvement has been made.

[@bigbroman5927]

Lol.. caught that too.

[@beargillium2369]

💯

[@outerspaceman7534]

What the time stamp?

[@deathmetalrudiments]

@@outerspaceman7534 26:46

[@jimh6763]

Where can you buy a gun without a background check? No where that I know of?

[@r3d0ubt]

only good hosts ive ever seen on a topic like this

[@LastT0mat0]

"Could you define what an assault weapon is?" "No but here's an emotional story" 20:00

[@AliAlhussaini]

Capitalizing on people’s loss

[@patrickjr80]

Too bad it was pistols used in Sandy Hook, the Ar15 was found in his car.

[@lordreku]

I'm thirty minutes in and I don't think John has answered literally a single question asked. "How do you define an assault weapon?" Changes subject. "How would you enforce a universal background check?" Changes subject. "Do you really think a volunteer army would nuke its own citizens?" Changes subject.

[@alkatmsu]

I gave up halfway through for the same reason... only one side actually answers questions!

[@cypher1o1]

He spent the who time building a strawman and spiting slogans while bringing almost nothing of substance

[@smacksmacksmack]

I know, and no calls him out

[@melvinshannon4742]

Non that spoke to the topic

[@randallrogers6350]

The way liberals and leftists are. Deflect, deflect, deflect.

[@TheATFcanSuckmyDicc]

18:02 bro just made that up. There are ZERO states that don’t require background checks. IT’s federal law that background checks are required to buy a firearm

[@andrewcharles6489]

That guy was extremely disingenuous and argued from emotion. Look at how he doesn’t define an assault weapon and chooses the emotional response.

[@Knightmare239]

John talking about “what’s your AR15 gonna do over a sophisticated military?” That same military has been fighting men running around in scandals with their AKs for decades.

[@northwestgaming4049]

Oh that is good my friend. Hahahahahah

[@mustangstevegt]

Yep. Iraq, Afghanistan, Vietnam ect. Not to mention the atomic weapon thing he's saying, would never happen because to military is going to detonate those on their own cities on their own soil.

[@ilovebutterstuff]

Then he implied that the government could just drop a nuke on the American public if it decided to. Yeah, we know exactly where you stand, Statist summabich.

[@williamadams8353]

John doesn't know how civil war happens right in your neighborhood and not on some distant battlefield? How people who have used what ever means it took to deprive people of their constitutional civil rights are not immune from the consequences of those actions? Public employees who ignored the desires of their constituents for years and actively strived to remove constitutional guarantees by pushing illegal and unconstitutional laws that did away with due process and assuming the accused is innocent until proven guilty in a court of law. Red flag laws and laws that make secret decisions that affect the free movement of a person by putting them on a no list without due process. All these groups who have this delusion that they know whats best for other people need a large lesson in minding their own business. That lesson starts with illegal unconstitutional laws being declared null and void, and the people who voted and passed those laws need to be sued for depriving US citizens of their constitutional rights under color of authority and conspiracy to commit treason. When you set about destroying the foundational legal bedrock of a country after having taken a sacred oath to uphold and defend that same constitutional law, then you are most certainly in need of a long time out to contemplate your betrayal of your fellow citizens. Breaking big rocks into little rocks at Fort Leavenworth federal day spa and retreat sounds like a wonderful destination for these public employees who have forgotten who they work for.

[@MyFunnyVids888]

@@mustangstevegt yeah the whole nuclear weapon argument is asinine because any nuclear radiation would most likely be blown up north or south and affect other countries or the federal government not to mention carpet bombing and the likes dont work against non concentrated targets and mostly destroy infrastructure in this situation which lets be honest infrastructure in the us is already poor. We'd also have to take into account the amount of defectors in the federal military there would be and how many would be willing to nuke their own home or attack civilians

[@kens4729]

John: "And you eat that meat after it's received a .223 round???" Colion: ".....Yeah, why wouldn't I?" Favorite response had me laughing too much.

[@Theelosa07]

I was left a little dumbfounded by that question

[@Shorn_]

.223 is on the low end of acceptable for hunting small deer, and out of the question for larger game than that. Wait 'til this guy finds out about the .308.

[@guitarguru210]

TWO-TWENTLY-THREE ROUNDS?!

[@TcWilson0]

That whole exchange was hilarious. John about to slap his assistant that told him you cant hunt with .223.

[@I_like_turtles_67]

@@Shorn_ a lot of states require a minimum of a .243 to shoot deer. .270, .308 & 30-30 are the most common rounds for medium sized game in the United States. I'd love to see this guy's reaction to a ballistics gell video. Showing what larger hunting rounds can do to you. 7mm, 300win mag. 45-70... He would faint 😆

[@exxpo7870]

John is a master of the Gish Gallop. Making 40 points, letting the opponent take down 2 and then interrupting to make 40 more

[@user-fi1xi5vw3v]

The federal government requires a background check on every gun sold

[@ricecakes6688]

Most people see through John’s arguments, this is why people have purchased more firearms than ever before.

[@dustinperkins9886]

His mask slipped when he started to say he wanted his laws to apply somewhere else that he's never been

[@jasonkome9734]

What a joke this guy is. Talking out the side of his face.

[@manictiger]

It always puzzles me when minorities like "Rosenthal" align against their own interests. Maybe call me a warmonger, but I'd rather go out with guns blazing, than in some damn ext3rm1n4tion camp. Or did "Rosenthal" forget that part of history? Maybe he thinks the U.S. is immune to devolving into that kind of leadership. Maybe he's a fool.

[@enarandyr9122]

And more democrats than ever before? They lost this argument years ago.

[@ML-ks2lj]

He trys to hit heart strings and play the "knee jerker" and run off emotions. He is narcissistic and manipulative, just like 99 percent of the politicians out there.

[@joek8620]

I’ve never seen an LAPD officer without a service AR and a shotgun in their vehicle. And that’s California

[@LukeNineK]

I just came down to comment exactly this, about every cop care I see in LA has an AR in the front seat.

[@tybot1980]

I was thinking this the whole debate. The gun grabber kept saying police have 17 rounds and that’s it. They all have an AR in the trunk.

[@jennyromero9041]

Exactly. Just look up a video of police shootings and you will see most of them respond with rifles. Plus I wanna know all these states and gun shows that aren't doing background checks to buy a gun because I have never seen one.

[@mikkalbreeden956]

I didn’t see your comment and wrote that I used to keep an AR-15 in my patrol car.

[@Appalachia_Ape]

Yeah most Maryland counties are like that too. It's a useful tool, no reason they shouldn't keep a rifle on hand. As to rosembum's point, there is literally an entire subset of AR market known as "PATROL rifles/carbines".

[@schneidersreptiles843]

He is so wrong here in Iowa regular public servants have a secondary firearm that is a ar15 in their vehicle

[@gasad01374]

i think background checks and mental health checks should be a thing for gun owners BUT both of those things are easy for a government to change behind the scenes with no proof, they can easily manipulate the results to give themselves a reason to take away your firearms. every gun owner should go to atleast 1 safety course.

[@mik4209]

How about more people carrying. It works, it prevents more than it fails.

[@n3r0wolfe]

its funny, to me, since ive started open carrying i havent had a single person get in my face (when i lived in cali people got in my face for no reason all the time) an armed society is a polite society (btw i live in az now, again and finally)

[@mik4209]

@@n3r0wolfe wow that’s weird, I’d think Cali ppl would be laid back.

[@n3r0wolfe]

@@mik4209 it depends really.. all my friends are chill, most randos are chill.. but the road rage is so baaad, assholes are everywhere... they need more weed :D

[@mik4209]

@@n3r0wolfe no THC for the, put em on strict CBD to calm their asses down.

[@krotchlickmeugh627]

@@mik4209 california is one of the most dangerous states to live in. In almost every way. Rampant mental health and homless people roming the streets with no legal recourse for their actions. I bought a legal A.K. in 2016 and the very next year i became a felon for owning it. So for gun owners its hell. I had a hand gun stolen from me out of my truck and was arrested for "not storing it properly" even tho it was to the t and thats why my case was dropped. The "normal" people here are so uneducated neo fascist liberals that they have voted their way to the point where it costs me $1,500 a year to register my truck with the dmv. The average californian pays $847 in state taxes a year. Dirt bikes are now illegal. You have the fear of being prosecuted for the most absurd things. But if someone literally robs you at gun point if they even get caught they will be out before you make it back home. Rad flag laws are used by the police here like its the only law they can use or enforce. I was speeding 10mph over and was pulled over. The cop said i was doing 90 in a 55 and was doing me a favor by marking it down to 85mph. I took it to trial, lost and had to pay $1,800. Why would your average californian be laid back when were being extorted by the state to the degree that we cannot leave.

[@youbecha64]

When John Rosenthal 'quoted' the 2nd amendment...he left out this pretty important part... " the right of the people" which had been determined as an individual right, not a collective right.

[@chuckcpass]

I just noticed that too.

[@Void304]

Yes. An INDIVIDUAL right. The people who wrote the Amendment had just finished fighting a war that came to blows because their enemy tried to DISARM THEM. Why would they word their own constitution to only provide the GOVERNMENT with arms?

[@krotchlickmeugh627]

How did no one but three people notice that!

[@edwatts9890]

@@krotchlickmeugh627: I would wager that a whole lot more than three people noticed.

[@LEP021085]

I’ve broken the 2nd amendment down so many times for people to understand it’s mind numbing.

[@renee6351]

You cannot compare firearm deaths with urban shooting deaths and inner city shooting deaths. The whole hunting part where he asks, you eat that meat. Dude isn’t a hunter, he would have never asked that question if he did!

[@dannysoberon1154]

Colion must be protected at all cost

[@Brad-ut1ro]

Gun control guy: “Why isn’t there a limit on hunting humans?” Me: There is a limit. Zero. That’s y murder is illegal. Smh

[@Ty-vn3cu]

Why do we openly give access to mentally unstable people though.... I.E. the latest school shooting....

[@VueiyVisarelli]

Right?! Totally detached from _reality,_ only using absurdities and trite talking points...and then also getting condescending.

[@jerryg.5923]

I have heard the anti-gun people say this before and it leaves me flabbergasted along with the statement like "What about those of us who got no 2nd Amendment, who is going to protect us?"

[@keithwilson9378]

lol but if they ban the guns the criminals will follow that law lol ya right its like they brained washed too common sense criminals do not follow laws

[@Ty-vn3cu]

@@keithwilson9378 It will surely make it harder for psycho 18 year olds to purchase rifles...

[@rperry70]

As soon as someone brings hunting into a gun rights debate, it is impossible to take them seriously. Hunting has nothing to do with gun rights.

[@jamesbowling9293]

" ...and you eat that meat? After it's received a .223 round? After it's been destroyed?" xD dudes a total fuckwit

[@richwilson7619]

@@jamesbowling9293 So you don't know what you are talking about either. Thanks for showing who you are.

[@nhwynter]

@@richwilson7619 - he was quoting Rosenthal. You need to pay better attention.

[@treyriggs2217]

@@richwilson7619 the fact you can't even comprehend the fact that he quoted the guy in this debate shows who you are.

[@richwilson7619]

@@treyriggs2217 So who am I? That is exactly why you don't say things that are confusing or that can be used to confuse.

[@gregryeii403]

Thank you Colion for this. One discussion I would like to hear is how do we keep guns away from the bad guys and crazy people WITHOUT infringing on the rights of the general public. Colion if you have any suggestions please make a video.

[@hrafnagu9243]

Every single time Colion asked "how are you going to enforce private sale background checks without a national registry" John acted like he didn't even hear the question and just said "background checks are effective" or "people don't need 30 round magazines to outgun police". Neither had anything to do with the question. Also does John not realize that lots of police departments provide shotguns and/or rifles to their officers' cruisers?

[@jessejohnson85]

"Do you think people should be able to own tAnkS!?!?!" "People can own tanks in the United States..." Good work Colion. This guy made a fool of himself.

[@rangersmith4652]

IT IS legal to own a tank. Rosenthal immediately went for the hyperbolic, emotional response about someone going around with a tank blowing up cities, as if owning such a thing would always lead to using it to break laws. It's illegal to blow up cities with a tank, just like it's illegal to blow up cities with a pipe bomb. And it's illegal to use an AR-15 to kill people randomly, just like it's illegal to use a revolver, a knife, a hammer, or a car to kill people randomly.

[@fun4sinclair]

@@rangersmith4652 Well said!! The strawman is strong with this one. The irrational fallacy that "... owning such a thing would always lead to using it to break laws." must be illuminated and defeated. Stay frosty my friend.

[@tekkblade82]

If I had the money and the land, hell yes I'd own a tank.

[@gokezv2215]

@@tekkblade82 that’s like a no brainer , why not have 3 fucking tanks

[@tekkblade82]

@@gokezv2215 it would be good to have a spare for when the main battle tank is in the shop.