heating the gasoline on lawnmower

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TheVaporkid

TheVaporkid

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@NoFear4XJs
@NoFear4XJs 10 жыл бұрын
New design rocks !!! Great idea, the simpler the better... Cheers, Terry
@F8LXEPSHN
@F8LXEPSHN 10 жыл бұрын
You need to get a horizontal shaft motor connected to a generator head and run it under load. The ultimate test IMO. Good job. Great work.
@TheVaporkid
@TheVaporkid 10 жыл бұрын
i will hook on to my wheel horse generator that will be the test to run the house
@F8LXEPSHN
@F8LXEPSHN 10 жыл бұрын
Looking forward to that video.
@GolfMotionAcademy
@GolfMotionAcademy 7 жыл бұрын
did it work okay, pm me thanks
@Bleachanna
@Bleachanna 8 жыл бұрын
wow they need this on all gas motors, this is amazing.
@lendoggy2
@lendoggy2 6 жыл бұрын
VAPOR KID, thanks for all your videos, they are highly educational and very much appreciated. p.s. don't sweat it with the people who don't get it. they either get it or they don't - who cares?
@Nemo_IRL
@Nemo_IRL 6 жыл бұрын
Nice job! I've seen allot of people trying the vaporizer but they missed the main element. Tom had it all figured out.
@vidhouse
@vidhouse 6 жыл бұрын
Hey, man! It's been fun watching your improvements all through this build; from the original bubbler to this creation. Saved me some trail and error, time and money, for sure. I downloaded and studied the Tom Ogle patent, and gonna build a very similar setup to yours on my 8hp rider mower. Love the ammo box idea! It's even got a rubber seal, and Harbor Freight sells them pretty cheap.
@inferiorfetus4128
@inferiorfetus4128 9 жыл бұрын
you say 90 hours. is that on a gallon. this video is got to be the best one I have Sean yet. and I have looked at many. it sounds like it runs better with a wick. the warmer the fuel the better the vapor. try putting the box longways next to where the exhaust port is with less bends the better air flow as well. I honestly think you have this whooped. I wish to chat with you one day I have some Ideas
@rick31869
@rick31869 8 жыл бұрын
WWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWOW PURE GENIUS ESPECIALLY WITH THE HEATING AND WATER VAPOR !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
@laj1452
@laj1452 5 жыл бұрын
One of the best videos I’ve seen so far. You should get a better camera my friend and go into more detail on the water vapor set up. Those temperatures are amazing.
@mikew642
@mikew642 7 жыл бұрын
I have tested this, it works, I run a 13 horse Honda gtx 390 with about a 1/8-1/4 gallon, for about 30 minutes. then the gas is milky brown from the humidity in the air, I use a bubbler configuration. sad to say, without a valve system like yours, I think I get longer runtime from liquid, UNTIL I prefect it.
@jeffreydieterich7711
@jeffreydieterich7711 8 жыл бұрын
Can you do a how to build video. Something with every part what it is made out of. What it is for (such as the ball valves you have). How to make the part or make it fit. I want to do this but i want to do it right so i don't mess something up or hurt myself.
@odecoyote9540
@odecoyote9540 9 жыл бұрын
Adjusting RPM by leaning out the mix, lean burns hotter and that's hard on exhaust valves. A lean mix also "detonates" easier...could hole a hot piston or burn a notch in the valve. BUT water vapor slows the flame front to prevent detonation and cools the combustion chamber to protect valves..and some of it heat cracks to lessen fuel demand. GREAT JOB on design, Dude! So..when evaporating volatiles out of gasoline, I'd think the solids would stay in the tank ["varnish"]..and that's a good thing not to be making abrasive ash in the engine, but do you find you have to clean the tank now and then? But then, using an ammo can makes that pretty darned easy. Lacquer thinner cuts varnish like magic...a little rough on rubber fuel lines though.
@JustAlanIsCool
@JustAlanIsCool 8 жыл бұрын
Now that's being efficient! Using that otherwise wasted exhaust energy (heat) to work on the fuel. I'm confident that after just a few of your videos that I've watched, that I understand 99% of how it all works. How it's put together, too. (I'm a long-forgotten machinist but I still know a thing haha)
@digitalfun59
@digitalfun59 10 жыл бұрын
Awesome work, keep moving forward, thanks.
@WJCTechyman
@WJCTechyman 8 жыл бұрын
Pretty cool setup. Gasoline vapours make sense considering CNG and Propane-fueled internal and external combustion engines have lower rates of emissions.
@jobesten7117
@jobesten7117 8 жыл бұрын
Nice job! It would be interesting to convert a 4stoke generator to fume powered one. I would like to see how much fuel you use to produce 1kw for 1 hour, its also nice to produce electricity while testing in stead of mowing the garage.
@brianmoody9514
@brianmoody9514 8 жыл бұрын
Ok didn't know if you kept the carb on there. I couldnt tel from the video.I have messed around with such plans. I eliminated the carb though. I just used ball valves for air & fuel regulation. I believe you have the basic principal tom ogle used. I will keep messing around with some ideas.. You keep up with what your doing. Good luck & take care.
@benbrewer5853
@benbrewer5853 3 жыл бұрын
I like your close up shots
@benspragge33
@benspragge33 8 жыл бұрын
This is awesome! Where could I get an antibackfire valve like you have? This last week I made a super simple bubble type vaporizer. Starts my lawnmower up with one pull! Usually takes 3 or 4. I then tested it on my 86 Mercedes Benz and it started up faster too! Although it didn't run very well because I had no way of adjusting air amounts etc, plus the bubbling method seems to be very inefficient in comparison to wicking.
@DirtGearTv
@DirtGearTv 7 жыл бұрын
What ever happened to the Vapor Kid, how come no update posts in last year? My question is when using heated gas yes your producing great vapor but what's to prevent over pressurization? If the gas gets hot like a tea pot wouldn't it be a risk for leaking or over pressurization?
@gingerbread1032
@gingerbread1032 5 жыл бұрын
DirtGearTv . Vapor kid got shot down, man.
@benbrewer5853
@benbrewer5853 5 жыл бұрын
I think heating the fuel is a big plus for the system I tried a few small little made shift to Vapor carburetors but I noticed a lot of water was getting in the gas but you know when you heat that fuel like that you probably don't get very much water in your gas
@kusnezoff8705
@kusnezoff8705 3 жыл бұрын
if you put some cooper bubbliers in their run off of the exhaust it would vapourize the gas even more. that may be enough to run larger engines.
@rick31869
@rick31869 8 жыл бұрын
BY THE WAY ,THE AMMO BOX IS AN AWESOME IDEA FOR A FUEL TANK ! PROB BETTER THE STEEL GAS CAN RIGHT ?
@prototype9000
@prototype9000 10 жыл бұрын
ive noticed in my car just having the container near the manifold is good enough for vapor
@nolanmods7172
@nolanmods7172 10 жыл бұрын
This is awesome!! BTW can you show us the oil next time you change it? I've seen some talk about the oil sludging from the water mist.
@workspc
@workspc 9 жыл бұрын
I'd like to try this with my Geo Metro. I wonder if it could produce enough power to run the car
@TheVaporkid
@TheVaporkid 9 жыл бұрын
Kevin Smith you bet it will, if its fuel injected, just by running it in to the intake manifold as a extra supply of vapor the o2 sensor will detect a rich mixture, and the computer will tell the injectors to cut down on the fuel being fed to the engine causing it to get better fuel mileage, remember this gas vapor is heavier, it will travel along the floor, hydrogen gas is lighter then air, it will rise upwards. if anything hho gas would cause it to run lean, gas vapor would make it run rich, not lean like some people think.
@fred306801
@fred306801 7 жыл бұрын
Would like to see more where did you go ?
@climbers1376
@climbers1376 10 жыл бұрын
Your videos are great
@terryhatch5709
@terryhatch5709 9 жыл бұрын
How does the lawnmower work under load?
@dronegressive7035
@dronegressive7035 9 жыл бұрын
How long can the engine run on one gallon of gas, and what is the engine size?
@thevikingwolfpack836
@thevikingwolfpack836 8 жыл бұрын
what if you have a 50/50 blend of gas an diesel ?
@mikew642
@mikew642 9 жыл бұрын
I agree with your statement, and KNOW this is possible, and vapor burns COLDER than liquid, Chemistry Fact. If this engine was ran from DAY ONE on Vapor there would be NO Carbon Deposits.
@46lfries
@46lfries 7 жыл бұрын
exaust temperature will go way up under full load
@cwalters6464
@cwalters6464 6 жыл бұрын
im wondering if they make an ammo box big enough that i could run a 454 big block chevy like this? imagine a house boat that goes around the entire great loop on one 200 gal fill up. 6000+ miles. thats 30 mpg. doesnt sound too unreasonable does it?
@rawiri9802
@rawiri9802 7 жыл бұрын
God bless you valid kid your awesome
@benbrewer5853
@benbrewer5853 3 жыл бұрын
I like your con Capt too
@tobiastessin314
@tobiastessin314 8 жыл бұрын
I see you use water to cool down, and to make better bangs etc.. But, what if you use ethanol? Many racers use it for better cooling capabilities (and also because it obtains higher octan) . Or does the cooling capabilities disappear when vaporised?
@robertbiesecker9613
@robertbiesecker9613 8 жыл бұрын
can magnets on the fuel input, by the engine, make it even more efficient?
@doubleooh7337
@doubleooh7337 5 жыл бұрын
the only reason why i don't want a wick i feel it'll evapourate to quickly unlike the fuel pump on a car vapour has no shut off so i think that plays a part in not getting so much mpg, do you reckon the output of the vapour could be connected to the input of the pump to stop so much vapour being sucked in?
@marctrudeau1856
@marctrudeau1856 8 жыл бұрын
can this work in the winter time with a snowblower ? if so would the winter temperature be enough for cooling or would you still need water ?
@NoFear4XJs
@NoFear4XJs 9 жыл бұрын
Hey Vapour Kid, I wanted to share my findings with you regarding a magnet and my liquid gas line. I`m not sure how much this would affect a vapour design but I`m thinking it would only increase the combustion. I bought these magnets to restructure the water in my home for my washing machine water hoses, kitchen tap water lines and shower by facing the north pole to the water lines. This gives my more soap suds and a smoother flowing water with the sent of chlorine diminished !! Back to the fuel, I read and researched magnets on fuel lines and found they only sell trinket sized novelty magnets for fuel system sales. Those will just not do !!! Try the ones in the link, just place the south side of 1 of the magnets so it is facing the fuel line and listen to your engine. Only takes one to notice I have not tried 2 yet as these are very strong and can fracture or break finger bones if you not 100% careful and have a strong bracket to keep them from spinning around smashing into each other. Give these a try, one for your vehicle south pole facing the fuel line or try using the north pole for a bit then the south pole to see if you notice a difference I`ve only used the south pole due to my research but will soon give the north a go and see. For your dinking water only use the North pole facing the water. Hope you give it a try I`m sure you will be surprised, thanks again for sharing your experiments great work :] www.magnet4less.com/product_info.php?cPath=1_5&products_id=965
@TheVaporkid
@TheVaporkid 9 жыл бұрын
thanks, i know what your talking about on the magnets, i have them on my rider lawnmower and also on my truck and my car, and they do work a lot. it gives the engine more pep.
@NoFear4XJs
@NoFear4XJs 9 жыл бұрын
Cheers
@NoFear4XJs
@NoFear4XJs 9 жыл бұрын
The magnets I posted have a pull force of 147 lbs vs the 5 lb pull force most sell for the fuel line. That said it will be not very likely you will find an answer that makes sense without a lot of digging. So far from what I have dug up and believe is that the molecules are being realigned or broken into smaller bits allowing the oxygen to get at all the hydrogen molecules making a more explosive reaction. Think of filling a bowl with marbles, now lay that bowl full of marbles on a cookie sheet easy to see that all the marbles are now exposed. Check out hydrocarbon molecules on Google image search and dig around for a more detailed image of the negative and positive polarities and you will have more insight to comprehend how it works.
@NoFear4XJs
@NoFear4XJs 9 жыл бұрын
Let us know what you find. Cheers
@NoFear4XJs
@NoFear4XJs 9 жыл бұрын
Sounds just like what I found, I`m still digging around it would be cool to find images that show what exactly is happening. Sometimes a picture or image really can speak 1000 words without the clutter or confusion some people can put on things. That said the above stated explanation pretty much sums it up, the fuel molecules are being realigned due to a magnetic field breaking up or neutralizing the static charge that put the molecules into large clumps...?
@jrmyfair
@jrmyfair 10 жыл бұрын
Great work. I want to do this with a generator.
@rick31869
@rick31869 8 жыл бұрын
WILL THIS WORK ON 2 CYCLE ,I WONDER IF THE OIL WILL VAPORISE IN THE GAS ALSO ?
@ellenorbjornsdottir1166
@ellenorbjornsdottir1166 7 жыл бұрын
Needs to be sump 2cyc, rather than premix 2cyc
@sellihcra8874
@sellihcra8874 7 жыл бұрын
what happens when your vapor tank gets overfilled with vapor? is it sealed?
@MechanicForGMCCars
@MechanicForGMCCars 3 жыл бұрын
Does that thing start to disel when the fuel is hot enough? In some case's engine's on a 4stroke are prone to pre ignition and cold diseling my car does it even with out spark plugs in centrain condition's that thing shuld by capabel to act as a disel engine basicaly🤔
@thercrv8202
@thercrv8202 8 жыл бұрын
What's the purpose of the water injection? How does that functionality tie in with the gas vapor system
@jassmandidgeridoo
@jassmandidgeridoo 6 жыл бұрын
Triumph did this with there cars in 60s worked but when you turn it off water vapour is left in the cylinder creates rust
@brianmoody9514
@brianmoody9514 8 жыл бұрын
Wandering about the air mixture? How do you adjust it? Did you keep the carb on there?
@TheVaporkid
@TheVaporkid 8 жыл бұрын
+Brian Moody the carb regulates the air as it needs it, and also i use it as the throttle
@kennethmeggers5843
@kennethmeggers5843 8 жыл бұрын
+TheVaporkid How did you mount the ammo box to the lawnmower, What is your best wicking set up, I want to build one, How hot do you have to get the gas 350 degress ok
@thercrv8202
@thercrv8202 8 жыл бұрын
+TheVaporkid So in reality, you can just use a system that employs a butterfly valve to control airflow? It doesn't HAVE to be an actual carburetor?
@ThePearsch
@ThePearsch 9 жыл бұрын
You've pretty much duplicated the Pogue carburetor, except he used the bubbler method through brick material before the exhaust heater vortex.
@WallStreet749
@WallStreet749 7 жыл бұрын
Would let us know the pipe sizes and the size of your ball valves.
@WallStreet749
@WallStreet749 7 жыл бұрын
How did you connect the copper to the exhaust port....
@richardlove4287
@richardlove4287 10 жыл бұрын
Hi vapour kid, great to see all this working! Just a thought but have you thought about vapourising diesel and running a diesel engin? I know that it's a compleatly different thing but from what I can see it may just work as when the piston comes up on the compression stroke instead of the injector injecting the diesel, the diesel will already be in the air sucked in through the air intake, please keep making these videos as its really inspiring, many thanks, Richard Love.
@southwestsage
@southwestsage 7 жыл бұрын
Is that CELSIUS OR FARENHEIT?
@therickoshae
@therickoshae 10 жыл бұрын
hello.i had two h h o kits on my 2.2 fuel injected renult camper van .when i took it for the yearly mot test they said the emisions tester must have be broken .more like they didnt belive the readings ,
@TheVaporkid
@TheVaporkid 10 жыл бұрын
its amazing how much better the fuel burns with the hho gas added to it, same as when you burn straight gas fumes, there is no emissions what so ever because you have complete combustion of the fuel, as i have said in my videos the on burned fuel is what causes the co and hc.
@therickoshae
@therickoshae 10 жыл бұрын
TheVaporkid it gave me noticeable touqe up hills.i had a pipe come off one day and knew immediatly. i messed about with the injector timing witha thing called an E.L.F.I.E. then i noticed a slight improvment in mpg.over all it was great learning experiance,im learning about edd leaskelden an his coral castle at the presant. your vids are great ane an insperation thank you rw
@youeladamas7840
@youeladamas7840 8 жыл бұрын
Great job next try a home genarator do better then the power company stay safe build on
@rlvarcoe
@rlvarcoe 8 жыл бұрын
Is that 1/2 inch copper?
@bobpackard9527
@bobpackard9527 7 жыл бұрын
Vaporkid, research a guy called RAY COVEY he made something very similar back when leaded fuel was normal. I tried it with a 1964 3 litre 6 yl car and achieved some 60 MPG (Imperial gallons) stock carb would give 30 at best.
@roybuckle7576
@roybuckle7576 3 жыл бұрын
You'r lying at best
@bobpackard9527
@bobpackard9527 3 жыл бұрын
@@roybuckle7576 no. Not even a little bit. Why, because you dont belive me, you assume I am lying?
@laurapichon7623
@laurapichon7623 3 жыл бұрын
ya i remember reading about Ray Covey and the super-carbs of the leaded gas days. leaded gas, while murder on the environment, was less prone to uneven ignition and pinging, which in turn probably helped the heated gas super-carbs as heated gas vapor is more prone to pinging and uneven burn
@MrKscollier
@MrKscollier 6 жыл бұрын
Theres a additive called HEET Gas-Line Antifreeze & Water Remover. Add some to the bubbler and the Vapors should last longer.
@nerog3136
@nerog3136 11 ай бұрын
I agree its not running lean .its running ar stoich ie 14,7:1.thez no computer here to control air fuel ratio.and the rpm is healthy.it will hunt as fuel level drops cause supply of vapour drops. With it.all cars run on a constant pressure of fuel always.a float added to the supply and a drip fed tank supply shud cure this by creating rhe constant pressure reqd.
@aterack833
@aterack833 7 жыл бұрын
if only you could run it with some load so we could see that it's not losing power when it slows down like that, or lock the governor in place and have the idle be smooth without major variation
@robertbiesecker9613
@robertbiesecker9613 8 жыл бұрын
with vaporized gas, if you put magnets on the gas line going into the engine, is it possible that the lawnmower will run longer, because of making it more efficient to burn gas, just like magnets would if you were burning liquid gasoline. I would like to know, that would be a neet experiment, to see if it would align the molecules, just like it does for burning liquid gas. if the vapor would align it's molecules then the mower should run for a longer time, because of being more efficient by aligning the molecules to burn them. TRY MAGNETS ON THE FUEL INPUT, CLOSE TO THE ENGINE AS POSSIBLE! that would be a neet experiment. I would like to see the results. it might make the engine be even more efficient with gas then it already is. TRY IT PLEASE!
@rickmaza3675
@rickmaza3675 4 жыл бұрын
Good one I like it🤯
@46lfries
@46lfries 7 жыл бұрын
96 hrs on how much fuel
@makepeace2850
@makepeace2850 5 жыл бұрын
I like this.
@benbrewer5853
@benbrewer5853 3 жыл бұрын
I thank you can use diesel inn sted of gas used oil
@plasmaguy5
@plasmaguy5 10 жыл бұрын
Awesome vapor kid
@VoeViking
@VoeViking 8 жыл бұрын
Is this engine 2 stroke or 4? If it is a 2 stroke it needs the oil mixed with the gas to lubricate the engine...
@thercrv8202
@thercrv8202 8 жыл бұрын
+VoeViking Duhhhh - LOL!
@rick31869
@rick31869 8 жыл бұрын
WILL THIS WORK ON 2 CYCLE ,I WONDER IF THE OIL WILL VAPORISE IN THE GAS ALSO ?
@finemyu69
@finemyu69 8 жыл бұрын
VoeViking if you can't tell you don't need to try this lmao easy way to tell two stroke does not have oil in the motor it get the oil from the gas. Four stroke has oil in the oil just like a car you have to check it change it... oil will not vape think about cooking how hot it has to get to smoke gas will catch fire/explode before the oil smokes to get into the motor. Hope that helps
@VoeViking
@VoeViking 8 жыл бұрын
New Generation WoW you're so smart, no the other thing.
@benbrewer5853
@benbrewer5853 3 жыл бұрын
Check out marcello bartolotta his devise he runs the carbrator through the exhaust
@ElDiablo-vk9ue
@ElDiablo-vk9ue 9 жыл бұрын
is the amo box air tite
@TheVaporkid
@TheVaporkid 9 жыл бұрын
+diablo son yes
@ElDiablo-vk9ue
@ElDiablo-vk9ue 9 жыл бұрын
nice, awesome work bye the way. i was thinking about what u said about, u haven't had a back fire yet, i think that is because it goes in as a gass not a liquid, keep up the good work but i am sure u know
@charlesbarnett4240
@charlesbarnett4240 9 жыл бұрын
I don't believe this greatly improved mileage claim. This makes no more sense than the HOH cells do ( it takes more electrical energy to break the water into HOH than you get out) Here is my problem with with your vapore system you are not doing anything that a carburetor does not do. The carburetor atomizes gas into a vapore it by spraying it through jets gas does not enter into the cylinder only vapore dose. This whole thing sounds bogus to me.
@jeffreydieterich7711
@jeffreydieterich7711 8 жыл бұрын
+Charles Barnett no it doesn't the fuel goes in as a mist. very fine but still liquid
@abskc
@abskc 10 жыл бұрын
Nay Box ??
@roybuckle7576
@roybuckle7576 3 жыл бұрын
Please people don't be fooled, this guy is trying to convince you, you can create energy out of nothing. Fact is, the ideal air-fuel ratio (stoichrometric ratio) is 14,7:1 for gasoline engines. Anything higher = too lean = Los of power Anything lower = too rich mixture = unburnt fuel Either way you lose. Do your research before wasting your time and money
@stinger5800
@stinger5800 9 жыл бұрын
Smarty pants HI5
@benbrewer5853
@benbrewer5853 3 жыл бұрын
Concept
@marcustrue1213
@marcustrue1213 2 жыл бұрын
Why not cut all that crap off and use an ultra sonic vaporizer boom ps when did you film this 1992 damn your camera sucks and I’m sure you’ll say that your design is better but it will damage your engine I mean no air fuel ratio gauge I mean no offense but don’t you think that if this were viable that even a small scale company at the very least would put together a kit there are other things you can do to increase your fuel mileage without going to the extent that you are going to
@robertbiesecker9613
@robertbiesecker9613 8 жыл бұрын
can magnets on the fuel input, by the engine, make it even more efficient?
@TheVaporkid
@TheVaporkid 8 жыл бұрын
+Robert Biesecker it helps
@chrismofer
@chrismofer 8 жыл бұрын
wait why's that? does fuel have a lot of ferrous metals in it?
@ellenorbjornsdottir1166
@ellenorbjornsdottir1166 7 жыл бұрын
Probably not
@robertbiesecker9613
@robertbiesecker9613 8 жыл бұрын
with vaporized gas, if you put magnets on the gas line going into the engine, is it possible that the lawnmower will run longer, because of making it more efficient to burn gas, just like magnets would if you were burning liquid gasoline. I would like to know, that would be a neet experiment, to see if it would align the molecules, just like it does for burning liquid gas. if the vapor would align it's molecules then the mower should run for a longer time, because of being more efficient by aligning the molecules to burn them. TRY MAGNETS ON THE FUEL INPUT, CLOSE TO THE ENGINE AS POSSIBLE! that would be a neet experiment. I would like to see the results. it might make the engine be even more efficient with gas then it already is. TRY IT PLEASE!
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