Vapor Fuel Combustion Speed

[@RLBJR1666]

Put a hollow metal ball between carb and intake manifold atomizes and vaporizes gas doubles gas mileage and cleans up emissions this is how Poque did it possibly Try this it works ,please please try this ,Small engine first to prove

[@ecopegasus]

I'm well aware of the various Pogue Carburetors and vapor fuel. Been studying these technologies for decades. I invented a 200+ MPG fuel system that will work on today's 'cracked' fuel. You might want to check out my books: eagle-research.com/product-category/fuel-savers/

[@Journalistification]

I have a couple or three of your books/booklets and. They Are very interesting , the story about you and your brother building a mini refinery fuel cracking system on that old pick up truck was pretty cool and almost hard to believe. But it is time to come up with something different, very efficient and affirdable. Like burning water mist or fog inside the combustion chamber instead off injecting it with hho gas. I've been wondering if high voltage ignition coils and resistorless spark plugs would be capable of doing the job. Weather plasma ignition or simple high voltage low amperage coils 40kv 200. Mlliamp. Current. What is your opinion?

[@gtoboss1992]

Been with you for 4 years it seems much longer thanks for all your knowledge G I appreciate you man your definitely a Wise_man

[@Benny-dv7xm]

1996- a time capsule😳

[@eby6114]

Been following you for at least 30 years.

[@787brx8]

With my anti-knock prototype I can advance the ignition timing to the maximum factory setting. However the engine cannot run closed loop with this setting. The car needs A stand alone computer to maximize the full potential of the anti-knock device. A short test run video is on my page.

[@waterfuel]

Still tinkering with the circuit for Nathren's water powered mower engine. I spent 3 months designing replacement for the old style dual coils Relays that always worked before in Georgia. The sealed carlon box is in vacuum with DC high volts, with Tesla type magnetic spark gap + Cap, with series Crossover inductor 1.6MH, as per originals. The idea is that radiant Energy is generated, kept in by vacuum, and follows wiring out to spark plug. He said they were worth their weight in Gold. The shop technicians back then could not replicate homemade relays to work efficiently. That's why no final papers were ever released. He was in jail during 2020. The original traffic signal lights poles relay were new replacements long ago. It was only the smooth running V8 engines and Pinto 4cyl WITH EGR + the Relays, and the magnetic field at plugs tips, that were acceptable. The Nitrogen compound in exhaust gases back into intake was the key to non surging engines. Website was studied and data copied before it was shut down. Currently working on the Briggs mower engine conversion only. I changed low volts to positive, and also the ignition volts to positive. This way one battery can be used, and starter motor can use engine casting for negative ground. My Power Supply is halfwave DC voltage doubler voltage from 500Watt open board 20Khz Inverter with fast diodes. Requirement is ISOLATED source power from secondary side, and then use series blocking diodes. Therefore the coil L in series can have back EMF higher volts pulse. One L coil in vacuum with high volts, while other coil L is mounted outside with low volts. The Georgia shop technicians and Nathren said that circuit required 100v and 6-7amps through spark plug. (Very small electrodes surface area) There is a back EMF higher volts generated from inductor that could be used for that purpose. Magnetic field carries all the way to plug, while I also added neodymium ring magnet at plug. The field is exactly at plug electrodes. Water in Carb was to change to water vapor pressure at -34degrees ATDC timing with some Hydrogen gas formed and fired for piston pressure. The S1R9A9M9 triple coils assembly serves 3 functions and is NOT a transformer. I built about 40 different models over time until I figured it out. His original spark plug of 4000ohms was replaced by Champion 125ohm plug. It COULD have been taken apart later with resistor replaced with copper segment. This way plug is Zero ohms and and can carry 6 amps. The S1R coils had formed "Leakage inductance" in 7t+13Turns, so that superimposed higher 1300 volts over 12v would push 10amps through spark plug. The 15Amps first capable,..was reduced to 10amps with the reactance induced in 7+13 turns coil from the electrical field of the ignition cable line pulse. He gave example in his website called - "the 60turns coil test". With battery disconnected after engine starts, the dual alternators under flywheel ran the conversion circuit for spark plug amps. In 2008 KZbin videos S1R9A9M9 1 and 2, he neglected to say the 18HP Briggs engine was self running, and was to be inferred!

[@ThePaulbilek]

I got your hyco2 book back in 90's and experimented on 87 astro 4.3l

[@Benny-dv7xm]

Great, now help us run vapors on a computer controlled fuel injected engine that defies leaning the car out. Currently 6mpg. I just tried some new disconnect combinations clearly proving that the 2.156v reading on the upstream O2 sensor is some fault between the computer and the wiring harness because I have it disconnected and it switched the reading from a steady lambda of 0.999999 and 2.156v to 2.151v with no changes clearly indicating that with these damned computers you can never get proper fuel economy and it tells the scan tool false values while not even operating the car from most of the sensors and solenoids with various inefficiency.

[@tonyvanntruth2969]

The engine is not running on water, it is running on either Hydrogen or Browns gas which is Hydrogen + oxygen. derived from water.

[@ecopegasus]

Correct. It would only be running on water if you put water in the fuel tank and added NO OTHER ENERGY. The demo in this video is adding 3 kWh from the Grid, to idle the engine. Running on water wasn't the point to this video... Here I show that the combustion speed of hydrogen is compatible with any normal IC engine. For this demo, it doesn't matter how the hydrogen is made. My current technology does not 'run engines on water'. The best I can do is use water to enhance carbon-fuel combustion as per the PDF you can download here: er4u.info/cms/node/443

[@SpenserRoger]

George Wiseman I thought the problem was u can idle it with browns gas but if u try to make power with it the browns gas will actually pre-ignite from the heat of the intake valves?

[@ecopegasus]

I've never had nor heard of anyone having that issue. Just the opposite; if the engine is running too slow, the mixture will backfire. To prevent backfire I had to wait to add the BG until the engine was turning over (starting). If I add the BG before starting the engine it will often backfire. Once the engine is turning over, it runs very well on the BG.

[@tashannon1745]

Hey there, thank you very much for sharing your studies. I am very interested in this research and development. I am currently in the middle of a very ambitious phase for developing ways to increase efficiency for motors in the aviation world. I am heavily involved with experimental aircraft. There is so much that goes into designing systems for aircraft as compared to other engines, yet i still think that the Hydrogen supplementation ideals in internal combustion are very valuable, and with aviation, relatively untapped. I am currently trying to devise a feasible method of supplying on-board hydrogen supplementation to the engine. My hopes are that after calibrating the amount of fuel provided to the cylinders to be less, the hydrogen would be able to replace that lost power and perhaps supply a little bit extra. The system needs to be able to withstand extremely rigorous reliability testing (as this is for an aircraft) and would need to continue to supply hydrogen in up to 5G conditions, which shouldn't propose much of a problem. The problem may be withstanding negative G's, we'll see. My main crossroads right now pertains to which method of producing hydrogen would be best for this application. Simple electrolysis with some sort of cheap catalyst? It is hard for me to assume so since I have not tested anything yet. Another benefit of hydrogen is in high altitude. If my prospecting is correct, hydrogen can provide burn exceptionally well compared to gasoline where there is less oxygen. Burning hydrogen at high altitude would be the motherload of efficiency for an aircraft, as high altitude cruising is the most efficient. This would be a great introduction for the experimental aviation world, especially when 100LL (AVgas) is $5-6.00/gallon! Any thoughts, contributing ideas, or advice would be GREATLY appreciated

[@ecopegasus]

+TAShannon1 First, you are correct in all your thinking, but this isn't the venue to discuss it. Contact me via my website: www.eagle-research.com/cms/contact Second, I've written a whitepaper that may help you: er4u.info/443

[@craigcarpenter2069]

I have, in the last couple of years, begun to play around with cold vapor production and have been using a small vaporizer on my Toyota for a good while now. I was able to effectively double the mileage by using a small vaporizer I built and letting the PCM do the work for me. I have also built one slightly larger cold vapor unit which I used to run my 1976 Nova with. All of this info is in my videos under Craig Carpenter. I am fixing to begin using ultrasonic heaters and dc voltage regulators to build a mid-sized heated vaporizer to install in my 2001 Jeep. I don't intend to reach the point of cracking the fuel but only in achieving a boil as to make sure that the lesser volatile components are burnt as well. I looked through a lot of the videos you have posted and noticed that you primarily work with HHO or Brown's Gas and I was wondering if it is just your preferred system or do you combine the production of BG and fuel vapor? I have built a few smaller BG generators but since the vehicle I was testing on was not compatible with an EFIE I desisted in that line. It would be my wish to provide enough vapor production and BG combined to easily run my 4 liter 6 cylinder at maximum output. Would you have any suggestions as to the size of the individual units that I should build to achieve this?

[@ecopegasus]

+Big C You've done a lot of good work. I prefer vapor fuel but Brown's Gas (HHO fuel from water) is more sexy (sells these days) so I go where the money is. I DO combine fuel vapors, BG and water injection for maximum gains. Just boiling the fuel will not get rid of the heavy ends and other crap they've put into it. That sludge will build up in your boiler if you don't have a system to get rid of it. The EFIE works with ALL combustion enhancement technologies, because they all have the same 'side effect' of more oxygen in the exhaust than the computer (CPU) is programmed to allow. It's good your vehicle achieved gains without the EFIE (some do, most don't). You do not need a large onboard electrolyzer, you want enough BG to act as a CATALYST, not a fuel; see this document for more info: Proof that BG assists carbon-fuel combustion, download PDF here: er4u.info/443

[@eby6114]

Big C he has a lot of great information on vaporizer , and other fuel systems. He's been around for a long time doing this

[@doriotclaine]

So the vapor bypasses the fuel injection system? Been reading your hyco2a manual, probably a bit out of my league but I enjoy learning.

[@ecopegasus]

Yes, the vapor goes in with the air. Which is WHY you need a controller that shuts down the regular fuel system in ratio to the vapor input. CEIT like the Electronic Diverter.

[@melvinpaul9302]

what volume would be needed to power a 4 cylinder and what about a V8 in terms of amperage

[@ecopegasus]

While I do use amperage to make the hydrogen, it takes FAR more energy to split the water than you get back from burning it in an IC engine. 'Running on water' ISN'T the point of this video. The point here is that vapor fuel does NOT detonate, even vapor fuel (hydrogen) that burns many times faster than gasoline. Amperage has nothing to do with making vapor fuel from gasoline. Generally I use evaporation and vaporization techniques. Depending on the efficacy of vaporization you use 1/2 to 1/4 of the fuel to achieve the same power output of the engine. For REAL gains (over 400 mpg in a 4 cylinder and over 200 mpg in an 8 cylinder), you'd use a cracking system like that described in my 'Extreme Mileage, 101' book, but that is costly to build...

[@ChrisMcNeely]

Fkn hell … after like 2 years I find this video …

[@cpufreak101]

2 KW, i once seen a 3500 watt inverter, so i guess it *could* be possible to self sustain an engine, you'd just need a ton of alternators to do so

[@ecopegasus]

+Justin Noker While I know that it is possible to self-run an engine on water (because I have files on several people who have done so), I personally do NOT know how. The engines in this video are running off BG generated from Grid electricity; the engines would NOT continue running if you put a load (alternator) on them big enough to generate that gas. So.... Whatever technology could make an engine run on water will take VERY LITTLE power to make the gas (or the load will be too great). So any ordinary alternator will do the job. The KEY is to re-discover the technique(s) that help water 'fall apart' using very little power.

[@cpufreak101]

George Wiseman well i do know a friend of mine had limited success in running cars off of water, so maybe he can be of help

[@TheRunningPuzzle]

+George Wiseman oh god i have searched far and wide for this answer. the best conclusion i have found is radio wave transmission at the right frequency but even that is too much power to make. i've also seen people turn water into plasma with a laser for combustion but it dead ends.

[@stefanosandri7077]

pretty cool the thing it that this is where efficient engines should be going and that extra energy can come from a charging station on route. with the advent of supercapacitors there is serious potential to see this tech on the roads in the near future

[@allandulles7108]

@@ecopegasus So really, you yourself are also "vested interest"

[@777cayman]

How does this work with fuel injection?

[@ecopegasus]

I'm not understanding the question. Combustion is the same for all types of internal combustion engines and fuel systems. Are you asking how to APPLY this knowledge to vehicles with fuel injection? If so, that's what my books detail. You'd need to know what fuel you are using (such as methane, propane, gasoline, diesel, HFO), what type of fuel injection (like mechanical or electronic) and characteristics of your fuel injection system (like what sensors, programming, etc.). Once you know these things, you can apply the knowledge in my books to substantially increase fuel efficiency and reduce noxious pollution.

[@robertspear888]

the new bmw works. check it

[@gingerbread2875]

The gods that have possesion of all the secret knowledge of mans first age of millions of years of compiled discoveries will not allow anyone to DeTHROWN THEM.

[@herbienbrian2]

The God's didn't account for car guys that are sick of high gas prices.

[@exoticcreature3059]

2 KW to power that HHO generator? Well I think my old deceased friend Nikola Tesla can help me make this power, self sustaining, so I can run any engine I wish on HHO.

[@ecopegasus]

+Bone Drone First, I don't appreciate profanity. Please don't do it anymore or I will delete your comments. Second, I'm not sure what your comment means? Are you dis-believing that my electrolyzer only uses 2KW to make enough gas to run that lawnmower? If you doubt the efficiency of my electrolyzers, check out this page: www.eagle-research.com/cms/node/620 Third, I do NOT claim that this video is demonstrating self-sustaining 'water as fuel'. In fact, in my literature I specifically state that the power required to make the BG (aka HHO) is greater than the power you get from burning it as a fuel. Here's an example of that statement: www.eagle-research.com/cms/node/443 Fourth, This video is about demonstrating that vapor fuel does NOT detonate, that the 'vapor detonates' miss-information is a myth instigated by the Vested Interest and propagated by the ignorant. Fifth, although I think you were being sarcastic, I DO develop and share technology that both government and big oil consistently suppress. For example, I just doubled the mileage of my 2003 27' Class C RV, saving myself over $750 every time I cross the country (2400 miles). I've helped over 200,000 people get 25% or better fuel mileage.

[@exoticcreature3059]

+George Wiseman I edited my comment. No swearing. Second, I made a snobby remark to the power usage of the electrolyzer. It was unnecessary. But, 2 KW in a vehicle's electrical system might be difficult. My idea is a tesla coil (Be a believer) in place of the alternator and a set of ultra capacitors to replace the battery. The tesla coil is not 100% perfect. There is a parasite within the coil that slowly drains the coil's power producing ability which would require and external power source to bring the coil back to it's top state of charge. That's what the capacitors are for. Supply power to the coil when the power runs low. When not in use, the capacitors would receive a charge from the tesla coil. AC power rectified into DC with the voltage stepped down. Third, you're right. But I do wish to power an engine on HHO alone. I have come to notice that an HHO generator that operates on electrolysis is not the most efficient. There are breakthroughs however. The application of magnets can raise a cell's efficiency level as long as the magnet's poles are aligned with the powr and ground of the cell. Pulsed DC current alongside resonant frequencies are the best I have seen. High voltage and low amperage, with significant HHO production. Example: 60 liters per minute of HHO gas with .9 amps at 75VDC. Fourth, this isn't news to me. I have known about this for quite awhile. Trying to tell others though is like talking to fish. Fifth, Awesome! Anything you can show me with E85? Who says I have to use gasoline or diesel only? Ethanol would be very easy to evaporate due to the lower boiling point than gasoline. The octane rating would allow me higher compression ratios. Water injection or some HHO could aid me to lean out AF ratios to levels no one would have ever thought possible with E85. I do not believe ethanol must be used in rich mixtures as it has oxygen in it's molecular structure which is easily capable of supporting lean combustion. Lastly, plasma ignition. I gotta have it.

[@ecopegasus]

+Bone Drone Thank you very much for editing out the swearing. Second, I wish you luck on your Water as Fuel concept. I know that it is possible to run an engine with water as the only fuel because many people have done it in several ways. I personally haven't done it but have researched it and compiled my research into a book, Water as Fuel, Book 1. www.eagle-research.com/cms/node/219 Third, there are many ways to raise an electrolyzer's efficiency. I see you are familiar with many of them. Personally I have not achieved the efficiency you quote above (60 liters per minute of HHO gas with .9 amps at 75VDC) which would work out to 0.02 Wh/L. The best I can do (at this time) is about 1 Wh/L which is about 200% Faraday. It'll take at least 400% Faraday to actually be able to attain Water as Fuel using electrolysis with an internal combustion engine. Fourth, Vapor fuel does not detonate is the focus of this video. All this other is off topic. I've been in the fuel saving business since 1974. I know how it is to try to tell people that they've been lied to. Fifth, Adding alcohol and water to carbon-fuel are ways to increase combustion efficiency and lower carbon-fuel consumption while maintaining full power output. I don't cover alcohol too much in my books (yet) because there is a lot of really good information on that application out there already. However, as you imply, pre-vaporization of any fuel, including alcohol, will increase it's combustion efficiency. Plasma Ignition. Too True, everyone should have it. Research Peter Lindemann to find what I consider to be the best technology.

[@TheRunningPuzzle]

+George Wiseman why are you selling your book... make it free so i can read it

[@ecopegasus]

+Pierce Newby I am giving it away. Just use the coupon code on the eStore 'sales' page to get a 100% discount. www.er4u.info/3921

[@gasolinevaporsystems9022]

Hi George Wiseman, I invite you to join the Gasoline Vapor Systems group on Facebook ! I think you will like it ! Thanks, Michael Vannozzi

[@ecopegasus]

What's the link?

[@gulfy09]

Hi Michael did George wiseman ever connect with you on Facebook..btw my son is getting involved with you on Facebook.. 250 straight 6 Chevy

[@MrSohn2000]

I tried signing up for your free book, but it requires a credit card for a $10 purchase.

[@ecopegasus]

+HHO Sailing Use the Coupon Code that is in the text on the 'sales page' to get the eBook for FREE. I distribute (even free) eBooks through my eStore because my eBooks are customized for each reader; so ignore the $10 'price' and use the coupon code.

[@cookie19292]

What happened to the hyco cold has vaporizer video?

[@ecopegasus]

Sorry, I'd need more information to know which video you are talking about. I designed two different HyCO 2 systems, one is the HyCO 2A (for gasoline) and the other is the HyCO 2DT (for turbocharged diesel).

[@cookie19292]

hyco2a i see the video when you google it but you press play and it says the video no longer exist. the video showed installation of the hyco2a

[@ecopegasus]

Sounds like someone was posting one of my copyrighted videos, which you can buy from my website. er4u.info/cms/node/246

[@cookie19292]

Gas

[@TheRunningPuzzle]

I've read all your comments and replies, stop trying to sell it, if you want to help people give it away dude.

[@ecopegasus]

+Pierce Newby I am giving it away. Just use the coupon code on the eStore 'sales' page to get a 100% discount. www.er4u.info/3921

[@alfresco4976]

What mpg are YOU getting wisecracker?

[@ecopegasus]

"Wisecracker" comment seems disrespectful so I'm not sure how to appropriately answer you. My literature quite adequately covers my personal mileage gains in various vehicles since I started working on fuel saving in 1974. Actually saving fuel isn't the hard part. The hard part is accepting that you've been lied to by the Vested Interest. Once you accept that, and are willing to do something about it, fuel savings depends on how much money you are willing to pay and/or your skills and resources. For a quick 'rule of thumb', based on my decades of experience and the practical fuel saving information I've helped over 200,000 people to apply, I'll propose four 'stages'. Stage 1: It's pretty easy to get up to 25% with up to $200 investment (driving for fuel efficiency and building some simple fuel savers yourself). Examples would include hypermile driving, fuel pre-heating and simple water vapor injection. Stage 2: The next 50% will run you up to an additional $500 (assuming you've already done the first stage). This stage applies what I call 'Combustion Enhancement Interface Technology' (CEIT) like the EFIE and Electronic Diverter, along with some additional practical fuel saving technology like the HyZor, HyCO 2A and HyCO 2DT. Buying kits ups the cost but cuts learning and installation time. Stage 3: The next 25% could be $1500 (this stage requires you to have a good understanding of fuel saving technology, which my books teach). You would be adding 'heated' fuel vaporization technology. Stage 4: Extreme Mileage > 200 mpg is in the $20,000 range. You would be cracking the fuel before it goes into the engine. You would need to purchase my consultation time to do this correctly. I know how to get (and have done) extreme mileage but it's complicated, expensive and you can buy a lot of fuel for $20,000. I deal with over 500 emails a day (including SPAM), so please accept my apology for this brief response. To answer your questions faster (and minimize my time), Please view my FAQ pages and get back to me directly (the website allows communication with me) with specific questions that are not addressed. Note that there is a 'self-guided' PDF flowchart to help you choose the right fuel saving technology for your vehicle. www.eagle-research.com/cms/faq/fuel-savers-general www.eagle-research.com/store www.eagle-research.com/fuelsav/FiveYrCalc.php