Heating the workshop with saw dust

[@patriciovenegas2105]

My grandfather used a sawdust furnace to heat their home in Chile. We used to eat grilled cheese sandwiches that he would heat on the furnace top. This video brings back some wonderful memories, thank you for showing that this technology is still relevant today.

[@omertalas3706]

We do live in different parts of the planet but have quite similar memories. We all miss those past days..

[@cliveclapham6451]

@@omertalas3706 especially since all the governments have declared war on the people that voted in in.

[@nathsharman4064]

Hope these videos never disappear

[@mmanut]

Amazing, I have a wood burning stove in my 2 car garage. I go through several cords of hardwood in winter & throw away my sawdust, planet chips. I think I just bought my last cord of hardwood. I'm going to buy one of those stoves. Thank You , Vinny

[@anthonyderosa5181]

I can see that no grass grows under your feet. My dad used to say this about someone who was awesome. I have learned so much watching your videos. Please keep posting them.Best wishes in your new shop. Peace.

[@TimothyWilmots]

Thanks Anthony, I'll remember that one!

[@AlexM-vt5pu]

Damn Anthony, it's awesome to read a nice comment in a KZbin video for a change. You made my day brother. It's nice to see good, happy, positive people are actually out there.

[@villain1409]

That was so simple & very effective,even the dog lo0ked proud,you also have a lovely workshop,it is very nice to see people getting on in life,thanks for your video.

[@thra5herxb12s]

Great stove and great video. I burn my waste sawdust in my regular woodstove by wrapping it into tight balls with newspaper, it still holds the ball shape after the paper burns away and burns pretty slowly which avoids having to send it to landfill.

[@TimothyWilmots]

That's a nice low tech option, in my case it was well worth investing in a special stove because I have enough sawdust to heat myself exclusively with that. If yours is worn you may go looking for one like this, it burns solid wood just as well.

[@thra5herxb12s]

I used to rent a cycle hire shop in the woods owned by the Forestry Commission. There was also a Visitor center and cafe on the site and all were heated by one large auger fed woodchip burner. The woodchips were supplied free with just a small extra charge on the rent. It was so efficient we had the windows open when it was down to minus 7 outside.

[@omarfarsha5886]

Perfect and inexpensive way to get rid of your waste and to provide some nice free heat. I've got to make something like that for my everlast welding shop.

[@Nerd3927]

These workplace heater sell for $79,- on ali express.

[@willford8475]

Your shop is so neat! No mess anywhere.

[@3niknicholson]

Me too, when I have sawdust. My stove is a Spanish copy, cast iron top main piece but steel circle and concentric ring (PM3) and steel air flaps. I've had a few of variants of these stoves, they're excellent, provided the primary air tube has the cast iron protector, otherwise the heat at the nozzle just burns the end away. I always take the grills out for campfire use and keep a good bed of ash in the bottom. When I'm feeling lazy, I start the fire with an eggcup of petrol. No more than that!

[@philippesebastien497]

Hello,I don't know how I ended up watching your vidéo but I enjouée it a lot. My friend who is a carpenter in the town of LIVAROT (Normandie-France) has been using this type of stove for +/- twenty years. Instead off digging with his hands, he temporarily puts his broomstick in the sawdust before compressing. This allows a higher compaction while leaving an air chimney once he has removed the broomstick.He doesn't use Sand but always leaves ashes above the grill level.I falled on my Butt when I saw the film of your workshop !!! Beautiful indeed.HAVE A NICE DAY and bonjour from Normandie :-)

[@TimothyWilmots]

Bonjour Philippe, I tried a few times inserting a tube before adding the sawdust, but usually the sides collapse after removing the tube. My sawdust is mostly planer chips so it's unstable. The sand was added before the first use as I didn't have ashes yet, it's only done once. Glad you liked the videos!

[@duggydugg3937]

wish I could be as clean and neat and squared away is this guy

[@richardsandwell2285]

What a neat idea, and its great that its being used in a wood working shop, right near where sawdust is produced..

[@BeasleyStreet]

my job as an eighteen year old in my first job was to set up a similar stove,it was called a "fulgora chelsea" or something like ,it had removable centre that allowed a good drawer of air ,when all the gates were adjusted right would go all day.

[@shakdidagalimal]

thumbs up for the end shot and telling what it heats

[@Norwegianwoodworker]

Hello again. I just recived and mounted the Deom turbo #5 in my shop. Holy hell what heat output :) :) Thanks for the demo of the stove. I ordered it from the Netherlands at 1/3 the price with vat and shipping compared to only the pipe in my country.. Love it. TR

[@TimothyWilmots]

That's great to hear, have you used it with saw dust also?

[@Norwegianwoodworker]

Yes I have :) and it is pumping out heat .. I have probably only needed the #3 but when I extend the shop it will be the right size. Once again thanks for the idea. This Easter it is "only" forecasted -10 deg but that will be a good test of it. Have a nice holliday. TR

[@jackiegammon2065]

People were heating their homes with sawdust back in the 40's and 50's, great to see again!

[@aspektx]

That's one well insulated shop.

[@jeremyludington9796]

Beautiful shop. Very well organized.

[@timwillett9121]

Just got stove not ran yet. Video shows how easy and cost affective they are. 😊

[@christschool]

Thanks Timothy for making this video. I really didn't think it was possible to get a good fire from saw dust. I can see the stove has a very strong draft.

[@TimothyWilmots]

I was dubious at first but could only find positive feedback on forums, these stoves have been in use for decades here, but I never had seen one working. You need to close the valve at least 90% with saw dust, otherwise it burns so strong that the stove glows red.

[@volundrfrey896]

You have great floors in you shop. So much nicer than concrete.

[@CodChickz]

that’s awesome. thinking about getting one myself. since my shop is quite chilly.

[@tweakerkid]

That is a NICE workshop, envy 🤘

[@TheRealElDiablo]

I really like your shop a lot. I think I'm going to look into this and having 1 in my shop

[@glenntownsin2110]

Great stuff... New work shop looks fantastic., look forward to seeing some more !!

[@S.R.L6600]

Great video sir. And beautiful shop you have .

[@bigjer62]

That is a beautiful shop!

[@davidelliott8571]

Beautiful shop! Glad to see you posting videos again.

[@markrigsby2425]

Looks like a good design

[@liammiller4758]

Wow that is a great furnace. I'm thinking about what kind of furnace I should make with my everlast welder for this winter.

[@utai4571]

one small thing like this can heat up a 160m² shop !! Wow i'm amazed ! you would try it with those cheap electric heaters that you find in every appartement and you'll freeze with a huge electricity bill !

[@ceedaddy]

AWESOME looking SHOP !!!

[@TheKi11erj]

yer stove is pertty cool but that shop is amazing!

[@jimzivny1554]

Nice burner, free heat is great!

[@kipl3380]

Looks like it works great👍 love the floors

[@MrFlyTWA]

I have an trash incinerator built in the 50s same type lid/door difference looks like a missing baffle system. I think you would benifet from this. Install a metal baffle that forces draft and chimney to draw from bottom of barrel. Your fire will burn better and less smoke. PM me and I can send pics of what I'm talking about.

[@redC16]

This is my lottery win workshop. Absolutely love it

[@josephcogar1519]

Great videos, you should find a way to use the saw dust and make like a brick or bricks with it. Like charcoal and maybe get more burn and heat. But who has time for that. Take care and enjoy the heat

[@TimothyWilmots]

That's why I got this stove, because it doesn't require time and energy consuming bricks. It would likely burn longer and be easier, but it just adds additional steps for the same result.

[@JanHilt]

Bedankt Timothy. Tijd at mijn houtkachel in de werkplaats plaats gaat maken voor deze tubo kachels. Zaagsel genoeg. 😉

[@danlaplume4942]

je me chauffe avec un Deom Turbo PM 4 depuis 1987...sans jamais avoir changé aucune pièce. ...ce sont des poêles EXTRAORDINAIRES !....

[@TimothyWilmots]

Bonjour Dan, c'est très encourageant. Après un an la buse d'entrée d'air s'est un peu effritée au bout. J'ai l'impression qu'il faudra la remplacer dans quelques années?

[@danlaplume4942]

ah tu veux dire le bout rond en fonte qui est au bout du tube de tirage ( le tube qui descend dans le foyer )....ça je me suis débrouillé en faisant un système pour le changer facilement. .en trouvant 1 tube + gros qui s'encastre par dessus celui d'origine. c'est vrai que ça crame assez vite. ..

[@AlphaChimpEnergy]

That’s awesome. Is that stove homemade or something commercially bought? I’ve never seen one that looked like that. It looks super efficient the way it rockets fire up into the outlet pipe.

[@s.u.2412]

That's a thing of beauty. Ever try loose sticks or scrap wood in it?

[@TimothyWilmots]

Yes, it burns scraps or solid wood just as well. But I prefer to burn saw dust and give away solid wood scraps to people with normal wood stoves.

[@oldsteamguy]

Greetings Timothy. Is there a link for a manufacturer's website for these stoves that you could share?

[@frugallandlord6974]

Awesome never seen this kind of stove before.

[@catfeline1530]

That's fantastic. Looks like you need a kettle on top of that thing, make some coffee or cook dinner!

[@TimothyWilmots]

They actually sell a version with a built in oven, but we occasionally heat stuff up on this one.

[@tomcarpentier7963]

beste Timothy, als je ooit eens een opendeurdag doet bel me dan, ik ben zot van je atelier, het is echt prachtig man !!!

[@TimothyWilmots]

Wie weet, maar als je op de hoogte wil blijven dan kan je beter op mijn website je inchrijven voor mijn newsletter.

[@tomcarpentier7963]

Timothy Wilmots Zal ik zeker doen ;-)

[@richardmasters3571]

I love your videos, and one of the highlights is the cameo appearances of your dog! :-)

[@danc101]

Look like a great way to use sawdust. Can you mix small offcuts with the sawdust to help it burn for longer?

[@Wordsnwood]

can you add more sawdust while it is burning? that seems like it might be risky.

[@jeremyrock9305]

Wordsnwood (Art Mulder) i was wondering the same thing if not it pretty much useless!

[@mlangfordoutdoor]

That is a very nice shop

[@picanexus]

I really enjoyed this series!! Make more vídeos, you do such a great job!! ;)

[@Roadsaftyslowdown]

Cool, have a look at the way Ishitani furniture dose his.

[@offyguy112]

AM I right to assume, that you let the stove burn out completely before refilling? I would think that throwing in saw dust or chips into an open flame would cause it to flare up, that's what happened when I threw saw dust onto a bonfire. I only did that once though!

[@TimothyWilmots]

Yes indeed, when I'm burning saw dust I have to wait for it to go out completely before refilling, or you can start adding solid wood. That's how I do it now since I'm almost out of saw dust for the winter.

[@indianatone218]

Gr8 idea n vid ! Why are there 2 little flaps near air intake you used only one to control flow of air what's the other ?

[@TimothyWilmots]

The other one is supposed to help getting the fire started by letting more air in, but with sawdust it gives too much air and causes back draft explosions so I don't use it.

[@bufford14]

Tim you aren't no slouch, I've never seen a stove like that before. Do you have to get up in the night and put more fuel in or does it last all night. Hey I like your channel, keep them coming. Your an awesome woodworker. mark

[@vanguardcycle]

nice looking shop too!

[@DeWaltManZ]

Being that the door to add the sawdust is on the top, can you add more to it while it is burning? If so how and does it fill the shop with smoke? Looks like a great stove! I have been kicking around ideas for burning sawdust but haven't made any solid decisions yet. Thanks for the great videos!

[@TimothyWilmots]

I was fearing this but you can in fact open the top at any time, the smoke will always go straight up the chimney pipe. It's strange but it works that way. You can't add sawdust while it is burning, that kills the fire. I always start the stove on sawdust in the morning and then when it's almost out I start adding solid wood scraps and continue that way. If you want to keep burning saw dust then you have to let it burn out before filling it again.

[@FamilyFlow]

L'atelier rêvé 👍👌 j'adore !!!

[@plemieux7237]

Luv your shop dog!

[@6brettes]

i been doing this exact same thing here in france for last x2 winters in my workshop except i have a different design of stove a deauville with glass fronted doors & main door seals that are leaking fair degree of air in out of so my stove smoulders far more than this efficient pot belly design! which looks like it has got a tremendous sucking draft on it compared to mine i open doors up and dig up sawdust underneath top stuff to reignite rejuvinate the burn on it very labor intensive compared to this burn i notice how big clean well equipped your workshop is what type of work do you do? it looks like it pays you to do it ive never seen such a neat clean tidy workshop dont come over here visit mine youll get a nasty surprise real shock!! its 56ft long 14ft wide and looks like a junkyard!

[@sascharensen8783]

How do you refill with sawdust during a day? Must Theo stove cold out? Great videolessons, thanks tr Share them.

[@TimothyWilmots]

Yes I either let it burn up, or start adding solid wood for the rest of the day when it's still burning. Depending on what I have.

[@mcluvinole9098]

Great video. Is there any smoke that is vented into the inside of your space during the burning? I'd like to do this but I am concerned about breathing the exhaust. Thanks for the help.!!. =)

[@TimothyWilmots]

Nothing at all, not even when you remove the top lid when it's burning. When you enter the workshop you can't tell there is a wood stove burning.

[@simpleman4196]

Very good use of saw dust. I really like your floors what did you make them out of?

[@waltervisciano8006]

Hermoso y espacioso lugar que tiene, me gusto mucho el concepto abierto.

[@ekim955yt]

Nice! Good to know.

[@javierdeleon1259]

Nice shop also 👍

[@gemmel3197]

Brilliant use of a waste product.

[@JoeCubicle]

Nice shop. Newly subscribed, suggested by Matthias Wandel.

[@bluejfarm9098]

Tim (if i may be so bold) May i ask where you acquired that stove?

[@TimothyWilmots]

There is a link in the video description to my site with that info and more.

[@Billahori1]

Beautiful shop.

[@cdouglas1942]

Bigger than the 3 br house I live in!

[@666russevans]

wish i had a space like that

[@michaeldvorak5556]

Great shop. Good use for your sawdust. My only concern is the buildup of creosote from burning pine. I was watching the flaming sawdust being drawn into the flue and became worried.

[@TimothyWilmots]

That would be an issue if you burn pine, but in my case I hardly ever work with it. And when I have some, I keep it in separate bags because I use it for animal litter. It's not great in the stove as it burns too quickly.

[@michaeldvorak5556]

Thank you. Couldn't tell what type of wood.

[@mrx.2233]

I miss your videos, what’s happening these days. Also where do you get the stove

[@trueshaftarchery6995]

Hi, could you please tell me what make and model of stove that is, Many thanks Wayne

[@NoToPCBS]

If you can see smoke coming out of your chimney then you may be able to make this more efficient by adding a second chamber and feeding it a preheated fresh air supply and therefore you'll get a second burn.

[@TimothyWilmots]

It only really smokes when starting up the fire, once it's running you can't see any smoke coming from the chimney any more. I think it has to do with the air pipe, which brings oxygen to the centre of the stove and makes everything burn at extreme temperatures. The pipe glows red/yellow which indicates a 6-700 degree temperature.

[@NoToPCBS]

Great, sounds like it is burning well. what is the temp of the flu gases at the top of the pipe. if it is still hot you maybe able to get some extra heat by adding fins to the pipe (near the stove) and using a stove fan to blow across the hot pipe. All the best

[@AllenGoodman]

Very cool, thanks !

[@manilovefood]

great video!

[@3dmomentous343]

Nice i am from Australia and i love everything japanese.

[@VladanJovanovic]

Hi, great idea! I have a question. How deep is airing pipe, or does it perforated?

[@TimothyWilmots]

It's about 35-40cm long with a hole at the end. The end is thick cast iron because it's exposed to intense heat, it wears out after a few years and needs replacement.

[@VladanJovanovic]

Timothy Wilmots Thank you for quick reply.

[@mrmajestic345]

What do you burn now, since quitting woodworking, hay?

[@Brian-mc4pd]

Is that hooked up to any duct work? how does it heat the whole shop? is it a radiant kind of heat or can you pipe it to other parts of shop?

[@TimothyWilmots]

This one is purely radiant, technically it shouldn't be able to heat a shop this size, but it does, and rather rapidly. Being well insulated probably helps. You can use the black pipes as a heat source, but there are regulations regarding the angles, thickness and insulation. As soon as it reaches the ceiling, it has to be insulated.

[@stovelover63]

How big is a big bag, Thanks for the video; al

[@pinefighter1]

Great video! What is the make of that stove? Thanks

[@sinvaldoalvesribeirofilho8657]

Very greatfull for your info.

[@jerrybobteasdale]

I would think that you'd want to move air to distribute that heat around the shop. If not an air handler, then at least have a fan to push the hot air around the shop.

[@Mill....1965]

Does it matter if it's sawdust from abricht or something?

[@blainemitchell]

Seems like a lot of heat is just flowing out the pipe. Would it be a better heat source if there were bends in the pipe instead of straight?

[@TimothyWilmots]

It would heat more, but if the exhaust fumes cool down too much in the pipe before reaching the end, then there will be condensation and creosote build up inside the pipes, and ultimately chimney fires. Also you always have to make the chimney as optimal as possible, straight up with no bends unless for some technical reason that is not possible. Bends create turbulence and reduce the draft.

[@mihailmihaylov3631]

What kind of stove are you using / brand name and model? Thanks

[@KatherineUribe-1]

Do you ever make little bricks from the sawdust? I've seen other vids of folks doing that, and they burn wonderfully, and for long periods of time. Cheers!👍🤠

[@TimothyWilmots]

I could, but that would cost time, energy and money. The advantage of this stove is that it burns saw dust directly. An electro-hydrolic press costs over 15k

[@TimothyWilmots]

@kristof polleunis I looked into a pellet press, but it requires saw dust with an exact amount of pine and moisture, otherwise it won't become solid. Operating the press also required constant attention, in that regard, a brick press coupled to the DC is far more practical.

[@isaklukkarinen5331]

very beautiful shop but aren't you afraid that the fine saw and sanding dust would explode?

[@TimothyWilmots]

You mean in the stove? It needs to be airborne and in a very precise proportion to explode, these conditions simply can't exist in the stove. I have had some backdraft explosions after running the stove too warm and then closing the air supply too fast, but any stove does that.

[@TimothyWilmots]

It would depend on your insulation, the model I have is designed for 120m3 while I have over 500m3. So I suspect a model like this would work for you, but they have bigger ones and smaller ones as well.

[@Jeremy-lu3nx]

Quick question. Since you have the Felder Dust collection couldn't you buy the saw dust compression attachment they sell for the RL series?

[@TimothyWilmots]

I could, but in my situation it doesn't seem worth the huge investment since my stove can handle the loose dust. It would be nice though, but that thing costs as much as all my other machines combined...

[@kieronbower8549]

Thats cool. Just 1 question. Why put the heating on if your wearing shorts ??

[@TimothyWilmots]

Well it's because I prefer shorts, so I stretch it as far into the autumn as bearable. I heat the shop in the first place to keep the air dry and warm, so the furniture doesn't go whacky when moved into a house.

[@ryananthony4840]

Impressive..... MOST Impressive

[@markmullin1177]

dream shop right there

[@bushcraftrebelknifes8970]

Nice stove good idea

[@woody844]

Where can you buy a sawdust burner like this?

[@Orangatangerine]

What if you compressed the wood chips into a block like a paper log/briquette?

[@TimothyWilmots]

It would be an additional step that costs time and energy to finally have the same result. The benefit of this stove type is that it works without all that.

[@michaeld954]

can you just use the saw dust and make presto logs using an old trash compactor or a press and a jig

[@TimothyWilmots]

I tried in the past to make logs for a classic stove, it doesn't work. You need tremendous pressure and heat to form a solid brick. This solution is low tech and doesn't require energy or work.

[@aldredcricketbats6953]

are these stoves available in the uk?

[@williambarnes274]

Brilliant!

[@metalmicky]

Whilst I don't doubt the stoves capability to burn most things it stretches credulity that two buckets of sawdust will heat the size of your work shop to a temperature that would comply with factory regulations,especially if it was near freezing outside.

[@TimothyWilmots]

Believe me it has no trouble heating the workshop in the coldest of winter, plus the apartment above. It's well insulated though and we have a temperate oceanic climate. I'm always trying to average 22C (72F) inside, it's important for the wood and furniture to be made in the same conditions as where they will be used.