HEAVY BOWGUN IN MONSTER HUNTER WILDS

Heavy bowgun is awesome in Monster Hunter Wilds. The info here is based on the recent Open Beta Test for Monster Hunter Wilds.
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[@AngBata11]

Bring back scope gameplay so I can forget that my Laptop can't handle the game properly.

[@Vyo1983]

Hell no. This is the first time I like hbg as much as lbg so far. If scope is coming back and optimal again, this weapon is dead to me.

[@Lianthrelle]

Eww pass. I loved the damage bonus but man did I hate what it did to the camera. I'd be okay with the scope as a visual change only but scope spread was just awful to look at.

[@Tpachal]

Don't worry. People with 4090s couldn't run the beta properly. Actually never mind, still worry.

[@VadeInSpiritu]

No! The scope was almost as bad as clutch claw!

[@roar104]

can confirm the devs have said perfect guard makes power clashes more frequent. Not sure if they ever said how much more or not

[@D3Vlicious]

"Wyvern Ignition" went from the name of a Great Sword to a mode for HBG

[@ryryryot]

Need that ballistic skill maxed out against Doshaguma / close range attackers. And looking forward to see how Spread build will work in WIlds, it was my go-to braindead build for grinding and easy mode.

[@SpecLeader101]

I might be one of the only few players thats going to run HBG and LBG at the same time.

[@AngBata11]

Nah. You’re not alone mah man. Not alone

[@Sockscalibur]

Nah, i'm with you buddy. Might play with Gunlance here and there but mostly just HBG and LBG.

[@Grim_reaper-ft6cp]

I see I have found my bowgun brothers lol 😂😂

[@Xyonon]

I'll join you on that front, altho I always want to maximize team dps, having access to demon ammo and all status / sticky and perhaps recovery is a must for me. Then again demon ammo AND hunting horn sounds like you become the guy everyone wants in their team. X)

[@scorpionemfe4038]

​@@Sockscalibur me too

[@LorisNoKami]

"Just give it time" Bruh HBG felt good from my first shot

[@AngBata11]

ahh cultured

[@NickAnderson357]

Really wanna try a shotgun build this time around. Just torn between doing it with LBG or HBG

[@DukeKayn]

getting a charged shot on a. wound does crazy damage actually. swear i saw like 300 when i did it

[@AngBata11]

seriously? hmmm

[@idkwatimdoingtbh]

if you were in a multiplayer hunt, keep in mind that the wound pops do more damage based on player count to compensate for the monster getting more health

[@blisszero1]

From what I saw, when there is no recoil on the sticky, we will become mounted cavalry

[@GeorgeK340]

I'm currently playing HBG in World and Normal Shot feels good to use during HR hunt. Now Wild's HBG can use Rapid Fire Normal? Hell yeah I love that. Hope Normal2&3 can rapid fire in Wild. Also the counter is 😮

[@Dr_Philliam]

this guy is insane in MH, better subscribe

[@AngBata11]

This boi sexy. Subscribe we must

[@Dr_Philliam]

@@AngBata11 youre not a boy, youre a MAN

[@pn0ydrgn]

As always very informative bata you are my gunner Kuya keep up the great work cant wait till we can play again in wilds !!

[@Raglandguy]

I think they did a good job with hbg except for the wyvern ignition counter. I didn’t really bother using that too much since it takes time to set up and then you have to hope that the monster will target you with an attack instead of your friends.

[@firecannon8588]

So i've used the Focused shot vs the charged focused shot and on average the charged did more, however the conditions for the damage always felt random. some shots only did 150 and my highest shot did 600 something (probably with with every raw buff i could get). I wanna say maybe because a single shot hit multiple weakpoints at once? Also if you haven't noticed, the shot once dealing damage also has a extra projectile once the wound pops and shoots off in a straight line. That projectile also does piercing damage akin to Wyvern snipe without the added sticky afterhits. Focused shot is definitely weird but stands to deal a great deal of damage if i can just replicate those really fat hits on weakpoints.

[@firecannon8588]

i'm surprised that you didn't hit up the fact Demon ammo now shoots in an arc akin to clusters and gives its atk buff in a small cloud on the ground for others and yourself.

[@AngBata11]

covered that in ammo in the video before this. that’s good to know about focus shots!

[@rjparsons3664]

I won't lie, I like the idea that we have more mobility but it feels like LBG but heavier. No crouching fire? No charge shots? And this would have been the chance to make wyvernheart change between lines and have unique properties based on the monster its made of. I feel like i waited for almost all of MHR's update lifetime to get crouching shot, just to lose it immediately again

[@idkwatimdoingtbh]

After finding out that it's not as cheesy as it looked and that ground combat is still optimal, I'm more willing to give this weapon a try in Wilds. Although as an SnS main, I still think the LBG will probably suit me more just because I'm used to the mobility. Slow-walking and fat-rolling is definitely gonna be the hardest part of getting used to this weapon, as someone who's never really played it.

[@Xyonon]

The only issue I have is that multiple abilities use the same gauge while wyvernheart still has ramp up damage, making it worse the lower the bar, ultimately causing me not to want to use it for anything else. I'd rather have 2 gauges, one for wyvernhear/snipe and one for the rest OR get rid of the ramp up of rambo time. I also feel the focused strike lacks player feedback in the sense of impact - it feels like a non-rapid fire normal 3 has been fired. :/

[@AngBata11]

Yes get rid of ramp up of rambo time and make using it more “light” removing the ramp up time means we can utilize switching from wyvern heart to wyvern counter more and even switch to charge focus shots rather than fully commiting to wyvern heart once you start ramping it up. And yehp focus shots do feel that way!

[@GBugden]

Did you notice if you can dodge out of charging the focus shot to save it?

[@AngBata11]

you can dodge out of focus shot and also the wyvern ignition counter.

[@biggiecheese2004]

Scope needs to never ever come back lmao. Wyverncounter sucks, I hope they change it before release

[@AngBata11]

If we have rocksteady it will be an easy way to proc that doshaguma’s might for sure though

[@biggiecheese2004]

@@AngBata11 yeah just the counter itself is absolutely awful, it feels so bad compared to something like Lance counter or CB/GL guardpoints. Takes forever to come out, they really need to speed up the activation timer on it imo. I am also not a fan of how risky wyvernheart is for not really that big of a damage increase. I don’t know why we can’t just instant dodge out of it, we already have to spool it up

[@AngBata11]

@@biggiecheese2004 at this rate they should just remove the ramp up time for wyvernheart - i mean LBG has that fast fire rate thing right? why not make wyvern heart fast at the start no build up and allow us to easily hop out of it

[@lyotesharaia4829]

The only thing i am not super excited with on HBG is the Focus Shot. Maybe it was just bugged for me, but the secondary wound explosion always shot up and away from the monsters and did no damage lol. With seemingly no mechanical advantage to doing a Focus Shot (like how other weapons get gauge or buffs from it) i cannot see myself ever actually using the Focus Shot when I'm Hunting with a melee friend. Other than Focus Shot, I am really loving the new HBG.

[@AngBata11]

I'm thinking we just do focus shots to open up wounds and not to pop them lol. It's breaks the gameplay of hbg so i share the sentiment with yah

[@virgindeadgirl7333]

We can create wound with focus shot? ​@@AngBata11

[@foremanhaste5464]

Focused shot is also for "temporary weak spots" like Rey Dou's horns after an electric discharge or Chattie's tongue when he sticks it out. LBG and HBG are both uniquely suited to hit these because it doesn't require a reposition, just adjusting aim. These will likely be the places LBG/HBG use the limited focus shots as they do mad damage, cause flinches, and save wounds for other players.

[@user-hq8pe7yf9c]

Are we getting a video for the LBG as well?

[@AngBata11]

of course

[@boon3772]

Offensive guard 😈

[@yasinachekzai2567]

I think I will still do a lot of mounted gunnery, simply because I love the concept! ^.^

[@ancestraldragon]

What i hope in full ver. 1. More ignition mode. We got rapid fire normal hbg with , machine gun ignition. I hope we got rapidfire pierce hbg with wyvern snipe and rapid fire spead hbg with new kind of ignition mode 2. All ammo are viable. Im the demo, only normal ammo ase useful lol 3. More explosive ammo to differentiate hbg from lbg

[@Moshca]

+5 cent video, hell yeah

[@Ryoga_Roronoa]

Very good news as I only play HBG and switchaxe.

[@ultimasurge]

Love yah bata brota

[@LodestarLogado]

People can be salty about Ranged Seikrit strats but I’ve been waiting for mounted combat in MH as a Hunter with a Disability from the start of my journey with MH in Tri - I tried soloing a monster in Rise on the Palamute for the sake of it but now I can finally go for a full on Mounted/Cowboy build. Just wish Lance got the ability to Joust

[@arstulex]

I imagine the problem people have with it isn't necessarily that it's 'cheesy' or performs too well damage-wise compared to its safety (since it likely doesn't). It's probably more to do with the issues it can cause for the other hunters who are also trying to play the game. Ranged are already kinda infamous for kiting monsters away from everyone else, causing melees to have to spend much of their time chasing the monster around while it chases the ranged who refuses to stay in roughly one spot. (Not saying all ranged players are like this, just that it's a commonly known thing). It also creates a sort of 'feedback loop' where the melee aren't able to do damage due to having to chase the monster around while the ranged are free to keep shooting it, meaning the ranged retain aggro of the monster, meaning the ranged continue to keep kiting it, meaning the melee can't damage it, rinse and repeat... Shooting while mounted exacerbates this somewhat, since the ranged can now kite the monster around much more while mounted. I think that's a genuine concern to be honest.

[@LodestarLogado]

@ for sure, that’s where the new lure pod comes in to solve the issue - you can maintain aggro and melee effectiveness while ranged hunters kite, plus you’re not allowed to move quickly on the Seikrit while firing so you won’t be turning the monster into a spinning top without one. Either way I’m excited to go full Mongol Horde in Wilds.

[@AngBata11]

wait a minute.. GL can joust… Lance can’t?

[@arstulex]

@@LodestarLogado Completely forgot about Luring Pods to be honest. Hopefully they last a good amount of time and you can carry/craft a lot of them on a hunt.

[@LodestarLogado]

@@AngBata11 I was thinking along the lines of sustained combos on the Seikrit, rather than the one-off attacks. I was pretty sure that was only a Ranged weapon thing but if GL can that’s *Ahem* W I L D

[@lexiii3435]

Nice

[@cixotrmGaming]

HBG SHOULDER TACKLE IS GOAT

[@dregnoff9361]

Didn't need time for me feel good immediately Also I don't miss shoulder tackle, feel like the new manual block fills that niche What's to not like about shooting off Seikret, u don't wanna turn into a mobile turret xD?

[@alibanimalek3578]

Please no scope.

[@Xyonon]

"I miss scope play" - i love you, but ain't noone is gonna agree with you angbata, sorry 😂

[@TheNoMoreGamer]

Wait so HBG gets rapid fire now too? I'm confused, I thought that was just a universal change to normal ammo. The bowguns get closer and closer to eachother as these games go on. I still miss siege mode

[@AngBata11]

universal change to normal ammo

[@RuijsNL]

The gauge best being used for the minigun is kind of a shame. Because of the ramping damage you really want to dump it all, and the charged focus shot and counter feel so awkward to use. I like the idea but they just don't feel worthwile to use you know? Which is a shame because it makes the HBG way-to-go just be rapid fire into rapider special gauge fire which goes against the fantasy of the weapon IMO

[@mkv2718]

i guess Guard and Guard Up will officially be viable gunner skills now with the always shield. i do hope wyvernsnipe, or some kind of equivalent is back. with how fast the special ammo meter recharges, having some kind of snipe attack would be really cool. yeah, we got the R1 attack, so maybe there’s a way to swap those out for the old wyvernsnipe, since those kinda feel like the “weak point only” mod from Iceborne. guess we’ll have to wait and see 🤷‍♂️

[@AngBata11]

it’s always been viable! 🫣 Wyvernsnip should make a come back. I dont like the focus attacks - but it does make dunks easier!

[@calebcentek9583]

Could you cancel a reload with a shield?

[@AngBata11]

Nope.

[@calebcentek9583]

@AngBata11 whomp whomp.