Heavy fighting across Donbas & the Ukrainian experience in Britain | Ukraine: The Latest | Podcast

Day 359.
Today, we discuss Russia’s latest strikes on Ukraine as the Munich Security conference gets underway.
Plus, we talk to Ukrainian journalist Maria Romanenko and her partner Jez Myers about their journey to the UK, work with Ukrainian refugees and the cultural challenges faced by those making Britain their home.
Contributors:
David Knowles (Host). @djknowles22 on Twitter.
Dominic Nicholls (Associate Editor, Defence). @DomNicholls on Twitter.
With thanks to Maria Romanenko (@rommari on Twitter) and Jez Myers (@jezmyers on Twitter)
The Yale report into Russia's program for the re-education and adoption of Ukraine's children can be found here.
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[@mateuszdziegiel6630]

The generosity of the Polish People brings tears to my eyes

[@wolfiemum461]

Well they have been taken in all over the world esp the UK about time they gave rather than take

[@markamiller1970]

My ex-wife's grandfather on her mother's side was Polish. He and his brother were the only members of their family who survived the war. They lost 9 brothers and sisters in addition to their 2 parents to the camps.

[@mateuszdziegiel6630]

@@markamiller1970 My Great Grandmother from my mom's side hid three Jews in their basement. Two would go out at nights and convene with other Jews to trade news, food, etc. But one night they didn't come back, and the surviving one migrated to New York after the war and sent my great grandma his wife's wedding dress as a token of his appreciation. Story like out of a movie now that I wrote it out 🤣

[@imaginemetoo]

SLAVA UKRAINI HEROES 🇺🇦 DEFENDERS OF FREEDOM ✌️ 💙💛💙💛💙💛💙💛💙💛

[@KarasMP]

Incredible journey description by Jess. Graphic, conveying the 24 no food, no water journey. Real life. Not shown on TV. What a tragedy.

[@Rod732]

when people complain about the country hosting them i tell them that it is, in fact, a different country and things work differently and in their country too! we can't compare countries/ cultures ever. I am an immigrant myself!

[@sir_spenj3465]

Her husband sounds exactly like the kind of bloke who would run off from his mates to save himself if they were getting a kicking.

[@fredsas12]

Yeah, I have to agree. He's whinging through the entire monologue in a very entitled way, even telling everyone on a public broadcast how Maria had to bleed through her jeans. Almost like he is trying to over compensate with explanations on the reasons for his actions. I was shocked when Maria said he would actually leave without her at the start during the bombing.

[@Tmb1112]

@@fredsas12yeah shocked they’re still together after he said that to her.

[@adamandersson4951]

Especially with a girl of that country!

[@charliec5339]

I was gonna say the same thing. I was thinking Maria was being a b**t* when she first was talking about him but no, he's fragile and whiny. I imagine if Maria's dad said anything about what a baby he is haha

[@mrspoon6742]

Disgusting isn't he? Pretty condescending about her mother too tbh

[@wesley135]

Listening from Detroit Michigan 🇺🇸

[@Aothis]

As an American, i would like to know more about the Yorkshire pudding politics.

[@aj225]

Well, I'm an independent and make my own Yorkshire Puddings. Keep a few in the freezer in case I want to make a roast beef sandwich with one! Some people (common people) eat them with jam? And, apparently, Ukrainians have them for breakfast with yoghurt! I would say there is probably no limitations, depending on taste!

[@matasha8038]

Yorkshire puds are basically made of a batter - akin to pancakes, blinis etc. In England, they're eaten in a savoury form and typically served with a roast meal (mainly beef) alongside vegetables and roast potatoes. They soak up the gravy made from the juices and fats of the meat.

[@obriets]

@@matasha8038 I would have said about the same thing, except gravy would be at the top.

[@wesley135]

I Love the podcast ❤️

[@williammorris584]

Give that guy a ticket back to Ukraine.

[@michaelbarwick7813]

Great up-to-date news of the war in Ukraine keep up the good work, From Adelaide South Australia 🇦🇺

[@ruthcheshire1310]

We have hosted a Ukrainian mother and 7 year old daughter since May. The sheffield city council have been excellent and offered a lot of ongoing support. We have found that our visitors are very mentally based back in Ukraine. They spend a lot of time with digital communication back home and are not so interested in spending time with new acquaintances here.

[@Balmorax]

Yeah, they're not travellers. They fled. Want to be home like everyone else.

[@uribensh]

Glory to Ukraine, glory to the Ukrainian army

[@SuperHuia]

Maria needs to find a new partner. One that stands by her no matter what. The idea he would flee Ukraine with or without her very revealing.

[@heater5979]

I gather from a Ukrainian pod cast that Benny Hill was popular in Ukraine. That might surprise many but I already discovered Benny Hill was very popular in Finland. Of course no English language skills are required to appreciate Benny's shows, they have other attractions. Good old pre woke, pre politically correct humour.

[@patrickfordyce2958]

God bless Ukraine always!!! Amen !!

[@markamiller1970]

I really appreciated hearing from Maria and Jez. They gave a perspective of the initial days I had not heard before. I also appreciated hearing about the history of Ukraine. Some I knew but some was new to me. Many thanks!

[@monsieurgrigny]

Great to hear Maria & Jez's story.

[@sherrillwhately7586]

I wish Ben Hodges was part of the USA 🇺🇸 administration.

[@cheriemorey4728]

I am in Australia and I love listening to your programme

[@drreaganeliedithphd6526]

Excellent description Analysis de Ukraine et Manchester et Euromaidan

[@HungryGhost999]

RuZZian bots in the chat as always 😂❤️🇺🇦🇺🇦🇺🇦

[@Tina-yu1ze]

I just didn't want read only pro russian Comments here 😊😘❤🇺🇦🇺🇦🇺🇦❤💙💛✌✌✌✌✌💪💪💪✌✌✌✌✌

[@HungryGhost999]

@@Tina-yu1ze it’s the same old Ruzzian bots talking 💩💩💩

[@Tina-yu1ze]

@@HungryGhost999 yes, but perhaps they can influence some people, if only russian bots talking here💩💩💩

[@Tina-yu1ze]

@@HungryGhost999 and they are here to make pro Ukrainian people to look bad and to shut up. They want to seem to be like majority and winners💩💩💩

[@user-fz6wx2zk6p]

Hello to ukr bots!🥂

[@James-gd7ts]

Jezz really needs to get his priority's in order. Imagine war breaking out and thinking about running away without your wife and then complaining about how they left thinking only about himself. The sense of entitlement is astounding.

[@oleksii8182]

That may be so, but keeping such people tied down only makes them more problematic. Let those who want to go, go. Less issues.

[@adriangregory1471]

Great episode We have hosted for 7 months and alot of what Maria and Jez said ring true, the gravy made me laugh as that was the same in our house

[@SL-sd3sg]

Crimea is Ukrainian, they can kick out orcs as they see fit to.

[@mrgraham9007]

Thanks guy's

[@jimgraham6722]

The ruzz convicts are a cost to state that can be conveniently removed by a uke bullet

[@newyorkskier]

The podcast I wait every day to come out. I listen to it religiously. Spot on target, Commendable job

[@adamandersson4951]

It is the best to run away with a girl like her from the war!!!

[@duncanbirnie4158]

I don’t know about England but here in Scotland bairns when they are young go to bed through the week when at school,are put to bed at suitable time,weekends can be different as are holidays 🤔

[@HungryGhost999]

Same in England

[@peterpaul7932]

Dom asked the most important Question of all - 46:36 to be ultimately answered and centuries of disputes about it can be solved once and for all !

[@jannarkiewicz633]

As a 57-year-old, I have never been criticized on social media so I do not understand how people get upset. DO NOT GO ON SOCIAL MEDIA. See... No one criticizes me on Twitter, ever.. I am not on Twitter..

[@drreaganeliedithphd6526]

Ukraine est très diverse

[@marinaclarasanchezsuarez2905]

Id rather hear the story of the ladys Father Who Joined the Defense of Ukraine,... rather than those cowards

[@Balmorax]

Guys, hate to say it but the video has not been uploaded. Ukraine will win.

[@velvetmagnetta3074]

I wish Putin and Lukashenko would stop begging for a "peace" deal (read: time to regroup RU army) and just gtfo Ukraine. Seriously, it's that easy.

[@adamandersson4951]

Did he say Maria started to bleed down there where it normally bleeds?

[@albertnobbs5049]

Yorkies and yoghurt. Why not?

[@anthonyalfredwhite]

Oh Dominic.

[@peterchapman6282]

TMI on the period front!!!

[@hanneahmedi7917]

It's always sad when war arrive anywhere,we are all mixed and have moved around the globe since we were created, we should learn more about geography and history and where our different languages developed over time, in short we are more alike than different.

[@SL-sd3sg]

Why should anyone meet with pootin puppets?

[@Anthony-tq9so]

I hear about Russian casualty estimates everywhere. Nothing about Ukranian casualties. Why is this? (ps. I,m a Scotsman, really)

[@Rod732]

bc this is pro Ukrainian content duh

[@Jablicek]

But they do mention Ukrainian casualties.

[@andrewyap8697]

Bullshit

[@Tmb1112]

The Ukrainian figures are harder to get because most sources we in the West have on the ground are Ukrainian, and they’re being told not to give their loss data to keep up the fog of war. So we do sometimes hear Ukrainian loss data, but we are always going to hear more about Russian casualties.

[@robertorzech8922]

Your KIA is way off !

[@AliBaba-fu8oy]

Dentist!!!!! we all can't see a dentist who was born here

[@dahlak3739]

Russia losing at this war becose lack of modern weapon

[@APW554]

Combined with a lack of skill.

[@tezinho81]

They overestimated themselves and underestimated the Ukrainians. Zelensky has also proved to be an excellent wartime president while Putin and the Kremlin were apparently counting on him and his govt running away on day one.

[@IMSiegfried]

@@APW554 That and lack of good logistics and maybe even more importantly lack of good moral.

[@eurojamsound5133]

Good idea all three president meets.i hope that the agrsser admits his mistake.

[@mrspoon6742]

The husband is a joke and I'm pleased to see him being rightly mocked in this comment section

[@drreaganeliedithphd6526]

Ukraine a commencé son histoire depuis Kyiv Rus 988 et Russie a essayé de éliminer la culture ukrainienne de Catherine la Grande , Piele Grand Ivan le terrible, roi Alexander III et union soviétique en 1921 dessus Lenin

[@eddiej6195]

Why is there no effort to bring this very dangerous war to an end

[@tubthump]

Because USA wants it to continue

[@oleksii8182]

Because russia won't stop until we're no more.

[@tubthump]

@@oleksii8182 the NATO - Russian War will end with the western half of Ukraine becoming a NATO enclave like Kosovo. Edit : this phase of the NATO - Russian War ...

[@tubthump]

2:50 British intelligence defence report estimates Russian casualties? Why no mention of Ukrainian casualties? Why is journalism absent from this podcast?

[@Tmb1112]

Because they can’t make estimates on information they don’t have. They’re given figures for Russian losses by Ukrainian allies, and they make their own estimations based on that. The Ukrainians don’t give their own loss data though. This isn’t bad journalism. It’s war. And not all the information is readily available.

[@Harry-wb7uv]

This isn't real journalism...

[@mike1117777]

Really, there's a war on

[@HungryGhost999]

I think we know that. What’s your point ?

[@drreaganeliedithphd6526]

Joy Division est New Order

[@Harry-wb7uv]

When will this war end?

[@HungryGhost999]

When RuZZia is defeated ❤️🇺🇦🇺🇦🇺🇦

[@chandrankalavathy4166]

if zelensky surender to RUSSIA this war will end

[@HungryGhost999]

@@chandrankalavathy4166 no surrender comrade ❤🇺🇦🇺🇦

[@annapodpora5493]

@@chandrankalavathy4166 why he should do that..🤔😳😳😳😉

[@heathermccall8015]

​@@annapodpora5493 Russians always talk like that right before they lose.

[@izkormvach-prazoiad]

I think the Americans are more interested in the toxic cloud in Ohio right now!

[@IMSiegfried]

Ya, because Americans are incapable of thinking about 2 things at once. /s

[@christophervaughan2637]

I try to listen to this report often but more often than not I can’t get passed the horrible introduction of music and excerpts of politicians pontificating. Why not just discuss what listeners are tuning for and stop wasting their precious time?

[@drreaganeliedithphd6526]

Je suis prof du marketing peut-être je peux aider étudiant(es) ukrainien(ne)s

[@Centurion101B3C]

Great human aspects issue. Makes want to become separate from the human kind. Soggy!!! It is important to project a light on humanity and human aspects, but is THIS the way to do this? In fact, I felt my empathy melting into insignificance and my reptilian instincts increase their influence on my personality.

[@suzann2531]

How to bring Countries down to their knees. ? They how many life’s lost and displaced. Why didn’t they continue with peace talk’s ? Who’s benefited from all this ?

[@HungryGhost999]

@@evolassunglasses4673 not RuZZia. RuZZia has become a global pariah and it’s finished.

[@annapodpora5493]

Independence and freedom cost

[@Tina-yu1ze]

@@evolassunglasses4673 They benefit ALWAYS, not only from war!

[@suzann2531]

@@annapodpora5493 For who ?

[@tinawilson4120]

I agree there has been enough bloodshed

[@krazyswede11]

👎 The Telegraph 👎 👍 Slava Z baby 👍

[@devilishdeed]

Ukraine is losing.

[@chandrankalavathy4166]

RUSSIA 🇷🇺🇷🇺🇷🇺🇷🇺🇷🇺🇷🇺💪💪👍👍🇮🇳❤️

[@madserbz4912]

🏳️‍🌈🇺🇦🇪🇺🇺🇲👺🪓😉🎻⚔zov⚔🇷🇺

[@Tina-yu1ze]

🇷🇺👹👹👹... 🇺🇦💪💪💪❤💙💛👍👍👍

[@HungryGhost999]

❤️🇺🇦🇺🇦🇺🇦🇺🇦🇺🇦🇺🇦🇺🇦🇺🇦✌️

[@Tina-yu1ze]

@@madserbz4912 Pawel Filatjew: ZOV💔

[@lockedandloaded6522]

@@Tina-yu1ze the Kurwa from the colony of Poland

[@badwolftx2139]

What is the plan for what happens when the US / NATO abandons Ukraine?

[@Sheddweller419]

Wrong question, what happens to Putin when Russia is pushed out.

[@badwolftx2139]

@@Sheddweller419 Right now, Russia's worst case scenario... WORST CASE... is they just go ahead and blow the bridges over the Dnieper and take over everything in the east. From Russia's point of view, however, this would be a problem because it would leave Odesa isolated. Russians have a tremendous emotional and historical connection with Odesa.

[@Sheddweller419]

@@badwolftx2139 I have travelled all over Europe and have seen many historical and beautiful places , some with important connections to my country but I have never felt the need to own them.

[@badwolftx2139]

@@Sheddweller419 Strategically and tactically it makes the most sense to just cut off the east and the west at the river. It would effectively end the conflict in the easr. That is probably the internal debate.

[@Tmb1112]

@@badwolftx2139lmao Russia is nowhere near the river in most of the country, and that’s not up for discussion. Only RuSSians actually think the west is at all close to giving up on Ukraine or pushing them to cede half their territory to invaders 😂😂. Live in reality for a moment. We’ll see where the lines sit at the end of Spring, maybe end of Summer, then we’ll talk about this.

[@Interglacial_optimist]

Anthony blinken says Crimea will remain with Vladimir Putin. Ukraine must listen to its American overlord.

[@clarkeorchard2304]

Twaddle

[@heathermccall8015]

Who's that?

[@Aothis]

@@heathermccall8015 US Secretary of State. Pretty influential dude.

[@carelgoodheir692]

​@@Aothis The US as the biggest supplier of weapons to Ukraine, and the main voice in NATO, will of course influence the outcome of the fighting but that doesn't make it Ukraine's overlord. A huge majority of Ukrainians want to be independent of Russia. That determination is what is lord in UKraine.

[@APW554]

When ?sounds like Russian BS to me Crimea is Ukraine since 1954 another fact that Russians choose to ignore .

[@prodigygirl1]

Contact Russia! I stand with Russia!

[@marksweeney6260]

Negotiations? Only negotiation should be a dictation to Russia to get the hell out of Uktlraine, pay massive restitution for rebuild of Ukraine and load all the war criminals in the busses we have out front. Sign here!

[@234cheech]

music is one of the biggist things about british culture embrace two diff cultures itl be hard to fit in hear if ya dont like music

[@jasontye3307]

Russia? Peace? Lol