Heavy Metallurgy Presents: Episode

[@kingfowley9481]

had a great time. cheers to all for watching/listening in. marty and alan do a great show. ;)

[@BIGRGreenEyes]

Hey King, is the Deceased catalog gonna be reissued?

[@kingfowley9481]

cheers. all albums are available on cd through hells headbangers minus maybe the eps. vinyl wise they keep coming back little by little. supernatural just came out. blueprints is next. @@BIGRGreenEyes

[@TheGreatBaronOBeefDip]

Hey King, my name is MacCauley, I work with Hessian Firm records and the Occult Abyss podcast, and would love to interview you, I am also in the bands GIGER and Predation, always look forward to when you do these things on this channel, I go back and re watch a lot, I also messaged you on Facebook, no idea if it went through, thank you for your time.

[@mattbrink5399]

Hi King. Just wanted to say thanks for the music brother. A long time big fan. The Deceased music is just f**king amazing. Super stoked for the new album children of the morgue 🤟

[@kingfowley9481]

@@mattbrink5399 thanks for the support :) cheers

[@billvenner25]

Holy Terror - Mind Wars has such an amazing production and mix. So smooth. The reverb alone is legendary. The greatest lyric in thrash history. "The evil chariot swinging the mace of hatred!"

[@harrr5427]

i love Do Unto Other lyric. Give me a blindfold, give me a smoke Hang me at dawn, watch me dance as I choke" superb...

[@metalneanderthal]

King Fowley is always a joy to listen to. I may disagree with 80% of his musical opinions but the man is one of the most knowledgeable and passionate in the whole scene. Thanks King! Although I will admit sometimes listening to him discuss his favorites and least favorites I wonder…Does this man even like metal? Haha just kidding.

[@HeavyMetallurgy]

I’ve always respected king for his no bullshit opinions on metal and though I may not agree with everything, he backs up his criticisms with decades of know how and dedication to the music.

[@kingfowley9481]

right on :) that's why we get our own names, to be ourselves. to each their own always :) cheers @@HeavyMetallurgy

[@kingfowley9481]

loveeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee me some heavy metal! :)

[@jamesgwarrior1981]

Listened to Holy Terror and Deathrow afterwards…awesome records, my privilege kicking it with yall and cool music thanks to tuning in as well…you guys rule

[@robertmorris8371]

Thanks once again for a great stream so good to see King back on the show love his stories! 1988 another solid year in metal didn't realise how many albums I had in the collection from that year seventh son still remains my favourite maiden album and I like half of ram it down! thanks fellas!

[@vuzkoth]

Kudos to y’all for letting King roam free on these videos. He’s a force of nature on these casts🤣. Great episode

[@damianp564]

Love getting King's input. What a great episode. Very influential time for me. Will be replaying. Cheers!

[@JDJD666JD]

Great episode again. More King to the people. Best guest ever. The Maiden, Saxon, Kiss dicography episodes are some of the best stuff on YT. I'm mostly into the record collecting aspect of heavy metallurgy but the episodes with Fowley rule.

[@CinemaATTACKS]

Always a pleasure when King is on. I used to live by the Record Convergence in Fairfax

[@kingfowley9481]

p.s sorry i couldnt answer viewers questions as we were going along last night. would of gladly done so but obviously with the format of show it's just go go go. :)

[@martymartin2894]

Any idea when your documentary will be released, I love those types of documentaries.

[@kingfowley9481]

its still over a year out. @@martymartin2894

[@kaptaink1897]

I gotta show some love to Megadeth: So Far, So Good... So What! Album of the year, and the album I credit for making me a metalhead.

[@andrearabar3252]

Anacrusis is a fantastic band. And the last Kenn Nardi album is just stellar

[@yorpshard]

Shout out to King’s Dee Dee Ramone reference!!! Top notch songwriter!!!

[@kingfowley9481]

dee dee forever! :)

[@hmetaljustin]

Great episode! So many good albums from 88. I would also add Flotsam and Jetsam- No Place for Disgrace and Suicidal Tendencies- How Will I Laugh Tomorow...

[@walterwhite4366]

I agree on the Flotsam album! My favorite from them!

[@cbn6635]

Num Skull: 'Ritually Abused' 1988..🤘🤘 ..a highlight for me that year. Their 'problem, just like with Sadus, was that they were too brutal for your average thrash metal listener, and too thrashy for those into the burgeoning death metal scene, but I just love it! It still to this day makes me wanna randomly break stuff, when I listen to it. 🤗

[@mattbrink5399]

Can't wait for the new album have all there albums. Super good band 😊

[@recordmass6298]

A lot of 'opinions' all over the place. Agreed with some, disagreed with a lot, but in the end it is what it is: personal perceptions, experiences and tastes. My pick for major 1988 favorite: probably Slayer's South of Heaven. Very unique, special album with a lot of personality, excellent performance (10 / 10 record for me). Cheers

[@symbolic_acts_95]

Good episode! Always like to hear people talk about and discuss about classic albums, even if it’s the 195th time😆I would add maybe To Dust You Will Decay by Angel Dust, I like that one quite a bit.

[@MrLando0]

Killer stream, surprised with the 'meh' reaction to Leprosy. That's my all time fav death metal album, ha.

[@sixzerothreeonesevensixnine]

Great stream was good to hear about your picks for the year. Definitely a big year for me.

[@jayletter5209]

Man i love that Stone album. The guitar work, songwriting, production are all incredible. Really HEAVY for the time. Another under the radar album from 1988 i would have mentioned is Turbo - Last Warrior. It also has great production & musicianship.

[@kingfowley9481]

right on about stone. turbo is fun too :)

[@kingfowley9481]

yeah they are good :) @@jayletter5209

[@mattbrink5399]

Every album by deceased is just killer

[@biestmann516]

The year I got into Thrash big time...

[@amber-dawn]

I'm right there with you guys...Operation Mindcrime and Dimension Hatross being my top 2. Seventh Son is number 3. It's crazy that I just found this because I am on a journey through classic metal right now by year and I am in 1988. I just listened to that Helloween album and I definitely liked some of it.

[@AUTOPSY666]

I am right in between Marty and King age wise, I was 18 in 1988.

[@Iainmaclennan70]

Same. What an incredible era to grow up!!

[@hattorihanzo2275]

Killer metal & killer cinema in '88.

[@robertburch1998]

My favorite "album" from 1988 is Deceased "Birth by radiation" demo. As far as legitimate thrash metal albums go.... Probably Rigor Mortis debut album would be my pick.

[@kingfowley9481]

;)

[@andrearabar3252]

Deceased albums is probably better of South of heaven, The new order and No Exit

[@thomasphilbeck6082]

STIKKY rules supreme! I believe DECEASED covered one of their tracks aeons ago.. (It's DTP from the Lapland days btw)

[@HeavyMetallurgy]

Hi DTP! Glad to see ya here. Marty here from the Lapland era. Thanks for watching!

[@kingfowley9481]

cheers brother

[@mattbrink5399]

Metal. 🤟

[@mattbrink5399]

Artillery hell yeah

[@jefffloyd9671]

Nuclear Assault - survive and Helstar - Distance Thunder

[@mikevillain666]

Great episode. What a shame I couldn't be there live. The 80s album shows are always a highlight for me. I admit, I usually appreciate it when someone has contrarian views and doesn't celebrate everything the majority likes, but I personally can't understand King's opinions on Metallica, Megadeth and Anthrax - especially in the 80s - in general. Doesn't matter, it was a similar moment I had to shake my head like when Alan rated "Somewhere in Time" as a mediocre album and ranked it behind "Fear of the Dark". My personal highlights from that year were definitely MAIDEN's "Seventh Son", RIOT's "Thundersteel" and QUEENSYCHE's "Operation:Mindcrime".

[@kingfowley9481]

the three bands in question two of them never did anything for me (metallica/megadeth) and anthrax 'fistful' record is fantastic but they strayed and went another way which 100% lost me. to each their own. we did both love 'operation mindcrime' so we have some middle ground. cheers :)

[@mikevillain666]

@@kingfowley9481 Of course, man, appreciate it. At the end of the day it's all a matter of taste and the discussions are for the fun of it. Some people shouldn't take everything so seriously. ;)

[@kingfowley9481]

exactly. i mean no need for more than 1 host/guest etc if everyone has the exact same mind and thought. why we all get our own names, to be ourselves :) @@mikevillain666

[@mattbrink5399]

Mortician just needs to drop a new album now lol

[@Nope2022HugeTheWarningFan]

Your guest's take on Metallica...? Woah. I guess I shall throw out my CD of Deceased that I got about a year or so ago. And it's the one with the Black Sabbath anthology Drop of Water on the cover. Not being a horror fan, one might not know what that is nor how much it means to me. But that picture was what got me to order that CD... Everyone has the right to their opinion. And mine is that King Fowley's (spelling?) opinion sucks! But he has the right to it.

[@Nope2022HugeTheWarningFan]

I saw the chat saying the Deathrow album is from 1989. They're right per discogs.

[@kingfowley9481]

cheers., yeah i never got into metallica at all. just never did much for me at all. but by all means always love what you love. it's all opinions and honesty to me is always the best policy. wishing you well, mario bava forever! cheers

[@Nope2022HugeTheWarningFan]

@@kingfowley9481 So glad you understood my tone wasn't disparaging, rather a friendly jab in the ribs. Metallica had a way to be really thrashy and yet at the same time very melodic. Their song structures were slowly becoming what I can only describe as progressive. Progressive thrash, I suppose. The longer length as their output went along didn't discourage me from listening. Although I went backwards through their discography from Load on back. So, I have a different experience. But thinking about where they were and where they started going, I love the journey from a somewhat hardcore delivery into less thrashy and more metallic structures. They didn't necessarily abandon what they were doing, just more along the lines of maturing. With their self-titled album, they didn't really sell out to me, but knew that they couldn't do the thrashy stuff much anymore. Listen to Kill 'Em All and Master of Puppets. They do not sound the same at all. I know everyone who was there from the beginning feels they sold out, but I just think they were growing their sound to what they were feeling. No longer kids, they went for what they thought was a natural route. Now adays? I think they really aren't very good any longer. Marty said that he's played Death Magnetic more than ...And Justice. Well, I cannot stand when a band who knew they were branching out with a different delivery because of their new shortcomings in the scene getting less and less hungry, tries to go back to their roots when they are no longer the same people who created the 80s material. With every subsequent album they were growing. Now they're just trying to recapture that which they naturally lost. I've heard that one cannot pretend to be something they aren't, much like trying to redo what you've done before catching lightning in a bottle. It just doesn't sit well with me. Death Magnetic's "What don't kill ya, make ya more strong" is such a devastatingly ugly glimps into something that cannot be again. Anyone has the right ot love that album if they do. But it's very strange lyrically. And Hetfield's voice just cannot do thrash now. So, your take on Kill 'Em All and going forward, I understand. But it took a while for my tastes to change. As I mentioned, I went backwards. But knowing what I know, I wish they had gone with country rather than going back. Yes, they should be making simply rock albums. But I would much rather listen to Hetfield sing a country song that to listen to their new version of thrash. Yes! Mario Bava! Love horror movies!

[@kingfowley9481]

cheers and all the best :) @@Nope2022HugeTheWarningFan

[@Nope2022HugeTheWarningFan]

@@kingfowley9481 Thank you. You, too.

[@thegrimmfluencer]

ThoughMarty woulda picked Extreme Aggressions...?

[@HeavyMetallurgy]

Extreme Aggression is 1989.

[@thegrimmfluencer]

@@HeavyMetallurgy Aye? I was sure it was '88....Ah well.

[@scapegoat5978]

Gotta say, I agree with pretty much all of King’s takes here. Metallica sucks, Megadeth sucks, don’t give a shit about Death post-Scream Bloody Gore, only Sheepdog-era Razor is real. Also, great mention of Fingernails. That album rules. Great stream, guys.

[@martymartin2894]

I think Metallica are overrated but Megadeth are great.

[@kevinlyon7716]

1:21:01 Great f##kin episode. Marty funny you said what you did about Metallica. The greast known cover band of all time. I've said that for 30 years.

[@MB-oc1nw]

I can't stand Helloween. Sounds like a German rip off of Iron Maiden without the quality song writing.

[@martymartin2894]

I can't get into them either.

[@DominicMedina-h7m]

So Metallica sucks and queensryche rules huh?

[@kingfowley9481]

for me they did til 'empire'.

[@billvenner25]

King Diamond Fatal Portrait is a bore fest. Totally not the 3rd MF album. MF songs were written guitar heavy, with massive riffs and structures similar to Judas Priest. KD seems the guitars take a back seat and all focus is on Kings vocals. Not a memorable riff on the album. Guitars are power metal and seem to just provide mood behind the vocals. Later King Diamond is way better. A Mansion in Darkess on Abigail is when things get better. Conspiracy is the best KD album

[@kingfowley9481]

i'll stick with 'fatal portrait'. for me the hooks and choruses were still there. :)