Heavygun Development History

[@kakarot197]

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[@theonehowasket3719]

Hi

[@MasterSwo]

One thing you might have forgotten to mention is that, while on paper, the G-Cannon was superior to the Heavygun in every way, in practice, it's performance was actually LESS then it should have been. This is because when they produced it, AE used ready made in house parts rather then producing the SNRI approved ones, which dragged the G-Cannons stat-line down a few bars. Whether AE did this to save time and money, out of spite towards SNRI or both, I'll let you decide.

[@BioGoji-zm5ph]

@@MasterSwo Don't forget that when both cannons were mounted, the F71 G-Cannon couldn't turn its head very well either. Not enough space between the head and the barrels. Although, it *was* capable of operating without the cannons attached, as seen during the Crossbone's incursion into Frontier 4 early in the film when an F-71 G-Cannon is seen without the cannons while holding a beam rifle. It's easy to mistake for a Heavygun at first, until you notice the wrist-guns on the side, along with the red lines on the chest above the front vents and along the sides of the torso, both of which the Heavygun lacks.

[@YukitoOnline]

Still waiting for that promised Lore video of the *"ALICE SYSTEM"* Ever since the *"5 Gundams You'd WANT to Pilot (As An Average Person)"* video.

[@thepugchugzchannel4511]

Hey man! I got in and I just wanted to thank you for the content. It’s relaxing and motivating as well somehow. I always get into a crafting mood whenever you talk about gundam. Keep up the great work and thanks for the skill share free trial!

[@goufr3540]

No matter the generation in the UC, the main way to fix an outdated MS is to make a Full Armor or Full Equipment type and just toss everything available onto the said MS. When in doubt, just add more guns.

[@andrewowens4421]

That only works for the Gundams.

[@lostShadowLord]

I just had flashback to that part of Zoids CC, where the Republic put every gun they had on a Command wolf to fight one of the Empire's Aces, and the 'Upgrade' just made the CW slower and more of a target. only for later in the series said Ace, get defeated by a Rookie pilot in a basic Shield liger that was rusted to crap at the start of the series.

[@theneef174]

@@andrewowens4421 psycho zaku...

[@TY-PO]

@@theneef174 Zakus too

[@GojiraFan-in9oo]

3:48 Jegan upskirt shot

[@theguy3851]

We get closer and closer to a gm development history.

[@MegaMegaman87]

Soon I hope

[@DanDaFreakinMan]

Me over here still waiting for aquatic mobile suits development history ToT

[@ryuuohdeltaplus7936]

I can't wait for it

[@miceltusav88]

You want the development history of the GM? Simple. "Zeon is using big robot suits...we need our own, those space balls with cannons on top are basically flying coffins!"

[@tuckerfromwotblitz3649]

I want ut

[@fishpop]

The whole "Better tech along with being more fuel-efficient" thing was why the characters of Beast Wars were smaller than their Great War predecessors. That and there was an energy crisis at the time.

[@tyaty]

Not was was becuse Japanese toy manufacturers wanted save money after the Japan's bubbe economy crashed in the 90's.

[@fishpop]

@@tyaty I wasn't referring to an IRL energy crisis.

[@berandom2000]

@@fishpopI know what he means. The smaller the mass of any machine, the less energy it needs to burn.

[@mercenarygundam1487]

Guess you could say, miniturized Mobile Suits are the definition of big things, come in small packages. Hope to hear about Mars Zeon's Mobile Suit development history.

[@midgetydeath]

Most miniaturized mobile suits were only like one to three meters smaller. So, only relevant to bean counters off-screen.

[@pouse4]

The suit honestly reminds me of a Hi-Zack. In the sense that it wasn't a great MS, but it was easy enough to build / pilot. They're suits of convenience to say the least.

[@kakarot197]

That's a nice way of looking at it.

[@JWTan84]

sounds about right, it's like a T-34 equivalent

[@vali6717]

I would say it was designed by complacency and the overall better performing unit that was its 'support' was designed once an actual conflict was considered.

[@tyaty]

@@JWTan84 T-34 was the most effective tank in WW2. It outclassed every light or medium tank fielded by Germeny whenn it was introduced in 1940. Penther whic was regarded as the best medim tank in WW2, was reverse engineered from the T-34.

[@Zeromaru42]

The sad thing is that the Heavygun is one of my favorite Mass Production units but also one of the worst in terms of combat records. I didn't think it would be super High on the list but seeing how it actually did beyond the Anime actually makes it look almost as bad as the GM II. That's saying something, if the GM II is the Yamcha of the GM lineage this thing is arguably the Tien. Still better in a lot of ways but definitely carried by the skills of the pilot rather than the unit. The one thing I can say about the GM II is that it at least had an excuse for it's bad combat record and all things considered it wasn't nearly as bad as the Anime made it look. The Heavygun is the exact opposite in that it's way better on paper but it's always on the back foot and no amount of techniques can save it from being wildly overpowered and pushed out of the fight. No matter how many weapons it gets, the core itself just can't use them as effectively as anyone else can and it gets murdered.

[@MasterArchfiend]

Development History videos are like finding a good coupon just when you realize you're short on cash. Immediately mood lifting.

[@briansilva3765]

I imagine it would be very research intensive, but I would love a broad history lesson about Anaheim Eletronics, they are always there and in Unicorn are very important, but not much background are given to them, also the way they always work with both sides, mostly screwing both sides with Gundams, is very fascinating, especially how they never see repercussion for their actions.

[@tyaty]

The real problem that Annahem could not sell MS for the enemy faction.

[@rightsideup6304]

@@tyaty They do double dip though its mainly from under the table dealings. I mean Mafty shouldn't have a gundam-type but they essentially made the Xi, a better version of the Penelope

[@tyaty]

@@rightsideup6304 The Geera Doga/Zulu models were made for the Republic of Zeon though.

[@rightsideup6304]

@@tyaty But still manufactured by Anaheim. I mean they also manufactured the Nemo and the Marasai back in the Zeta days so its basically like Lockheed Martin making planes for both the US and the Taliban or ISIS basically

[@hieronymos_lo]

Take a look at the story that took place in UC0083 and you'll see what Anaheim Electronics had been doing. An RX-78 GP series has been prototyped and guess what? GP01 to GP03 were handed in to Earth Federation Forces, while GP04 was "further developed" into AGX-04 Gerbera Tetra and went to Cima Fleet.

[@signalhunter2290]

Heavygun: Who are you? G-Cannon: I'm you, but better and can Suppress those dirty rebels better than you. Heavygun: Then why do you use casings rather than caseless shells? G-Cannon: TO SUPPRESS THE REBELS BETTER!

[@BioGoji-zm5ph]

And to produce orphans who can grow up into more bitter rebels for us to fight later on, ensuring that we have a reason to continue existing.

[@TheBigExclusive]

I think you are overlooking the fact that with a mobile suit being smaller, it meant that the armor was much thinner. So much so that it was vulnerable to Vulcans and smaller weapons.

[@Venator631]

You can think of it like choosing a small light yet very fast intercepter compared to choosing a big slow but heavily armed and armored heavy fighter. I know thats not exactly what this situation is but it's close enough.

[@reform-revolution]

it has a beam shield and its armor is "good enough" to hold them at range ..... think of it like a Leopard 1 MBT hard hitting, fast and not really meant to sit still and take a bunch of hits

[@Venator631]

@@reform-revolution I didn't think of it like that your comparrison is definitly better than mine.

[@thespikeheadboy3164]

It's actually better armoured than you think it is. Its armour is a mix of Gundarium and titanium ceramic composite thus mixing defensive capabilities with a good cheap price. Armour won't do much with beam weapons becoming insanely strong in the UC 100's

[@TheBigExclusive]

@@reform-revolution - A beam shield is just a "beam saber" in the shape of a shield. It's not as powerful as you think. If you watch Gundam F91, there are scenes where the beam shields of the Crossbone Vanguard fail against regular beam rifles and the whole suit is destroyed.

[@swordimpulse07]

I could imagine the prototype Heavygun using the Jegan's side skirt grenade rack with 3 hand grenades since there's probably a huge surplus but then AE developed smaller grenades appropriate for the Heavygun's smaller stature so that it can carry more

[@ShadeNightwolf]

I'm curious to ask if you may do a video about this in the future, but would you ever consider talking about the Pros and cons of each mobile suit manufacturing group? (Aka Zeonic, Anaheim, and SNRI).

[@Sierra-208]

Okay, now I want to pilot the Heavygun Full Equipment Type, but not before I get someone to mount a more powerful reactor onto it

[@Elphazo_O-two]

And more powerfull thrusters. And more fuels

[@anzaca1]

5:45 Or as that mobile suit that killed an innocent mother with one of its spent shell casings.

[@MidoriNatsume]

For the history of the Formula series, I imagine that the variants of the F90 will have a separate video, both for more time to explain and to wait for all the alphabet letters to come out. 😅 Also, the more videos we get the more happy we viewers are! 😜

[@robertdrexel2043]

I could have sworn Kararot already did a video on the F90 Series?

[@RamzaJinnRuu]

@@robertdrexel2043 He did it's in the video that explained what the model numbers means. He covered the F90 in it.

[@robertdrexel2043]

@@RamzaJinnRuu Ah. Now I remember. Thanks.

[@MidoriNatsume]

@@robertdrexel2043 He explained the possible meanings of the letters, not in the in dept way he does in Development History.

[@johngavin3180]

I can see the lead engineer on the RGM-109 Full Rquipment type, "The answer is a gun, and if that don't work... use MORE gun." In a thick Texan accent.

[@takeruhuy2343]

As a Gundam Saga fan , it's always a pleasure to see this type of content in your videos on all differents MS :)

[@LowellLucasJr.]

Thanks for covering the Formula mecha! Absolutely loved this art direction and feel its an overlooked art!

[@itsgab5745]

Huge sucker for late UC, hope we see more development histories from around this time. Like the Formula series, Mars Zeon, Jupiter and the Zanscar Empire!

[@spacegaming001]

Federation : we need more improvement in heavygun ! AE : (slap everything in heavygun), here you go

[@demomanchaos]

I rather dig the G-Cannon variant. If they had a HG/RG version of it I'd grab it and see what I could kitbash it into (Got a lot of spare 1/144 scale bits leftover).

[@zettovii1367]

Interesting thing to think about, is that while the brand new company that is SNRI produces the Forumla series which looks very similar to the Earth Federation designs made by Anaheim Electronics.... The actual competing mobile suit of Anaheim Electronics looks very different than any previous MS made. Would think that it'd be the opposite considering the lore, but I guess the protagonist faction are the ones that tend to stick with the Gundams.

[@tyaty]

Jegan was designed to resemble to a GM or a Gundam. Same for the Heavygun and Formula series.

[@lamlam-bw7ev]

If Gundams are so successful, why would anyone not design anything not based on a Gundam?

[@zettovii1367]

@@lamlam-bw7ev Maybe so that they can make a name out of themselves, instead of associating themselves with someone else? It's more weird that the company that created the Gundam doesn't try to milk off its notoriety, when trying to build their best unit yet.

[@Gundamry]

What about the HardyGun variant? I'm surprised you didn't bring that up given you talked about the Formula Wars and showed the F-90. I had built several HardyGun kits in the mid 90's and I loved that machine! Poor kit suffered from the weak knee joints all Bandai Gunpla suffered back then, but hey, still a lovely design imho. :D Nice work as always and great to see this series growing. Thanks for all your hard work mate!

[@berserksamurai]

I think the Hardygun wasn't mentioned because it was developed from the F70 Cannon Gundam

[@RocketChickArt1]

Since you're the one that brought it up I would love to see you go more in-depth with MARS Zeon. Seeing how pretty much there almost non-canon nowadays in the Gundam War. However seeing that the f90 kits came out recently does smile to my face

[@demi-fiendoftime3825]

One of my favorite grunt suit designs

[@zeterzero4356]

Heavygun: Designed, at least in part, for keeping rebellions from happening. Also Heavygun: Is phased out by a new model so is sold on the civilian market to militias that may or may not have federation interests in mind. HMMMMM NOTHING BAD COULD POSSIBLY HAPPEN.

[@mephosto]

i need to go watch f91 again. using some of the full equipment gear seems like the way to go. it really is a suit that needed that something extra to work.

[@CassDaMan1138]

RIP Birgit

[@angrypineapple1]

Fuck yeah I just watched F91 and thought "These miniaturized suits deserve their own Development History."

[@johnashley-smith4987]

Thanks for this video. I consider myself lucky to have bought the 1/100 Heavy Gun and G-Cannon kits back in 91 , when they were new releases. Built the Heavy Gun, the G-Cannon is still in the stash....might be time to build it! Thanks again!

[@warhawk4494]

Hey thank you for doing a video on this suit and time frame of the UC war. I remember seeing this anime along time ago and pretty much forgot about it. Lol but remember these suits and always wonder why they made them smaller and what they were called.

[@halotitanmrkprimal0001]

They should be reborn/100 model kits. Their designs and weaponery are outstanding to be seen and hold.

[@Mykenai]

Underrated grunt suit right here. When I first saw it pop up in F91 I immediately fell in love like: "whoa?! What's that? Some kind of souped up Jegan...?"

[@Damitsall]

Videos like these is why I come here.

[@wulfyhowls1678]

I forgot how interesting all of these machines were.....thankyou for your work and insight!

[@zakhaevshub4735]

Well I have to say that Heavygun is the most handsome small GM variants out there

[@Mr.Mosquito89]

The fact that SNRI just show up, poop out a first product that ended up lasting for decades that they can't even MANUFACTURE, and just thoroughly trouncing the AE presentation is hilarious. One part Accuracy International fiasco, two parts Gundam bullshit, one complete punchline.

[@BassGosple]

FUCK YEAH, HEAVY GUN! fave suit in F91

[@miceltusav88]

The Jegan being replaced filled my heart with sadness, as it was my favorite non gundam mobile suit

[@LagunaShirogane]

I favored the Zaku 3, 4, and Geara Dogas over the Jegan and others in its line. I also favored the Hizack and the Marasai as well. I guess that makes me lean more towards Zeon MS.

[@SudrianTales]

​@@LagunaShiroganeagreed, the Jegan feels meh, I feel a Federation hybrid small suit (GM3/Geara Doga Hybrid) would've been the better suit than the seafoam blandness of the Jegan

[@zacharydenning7481]

Awesome video! I love your development videos

[@zyemionzsglobalconcerns]

Love your channel ✌️ my fav always been ez8. d50 c is cool to but love jonhyblaze zuku2 but the amazing rx to zeta was a fav of mine to rock On. keep making amazing Gundam vids. go gundam. ✌️☕👍

[@gamerhalim4717]

I like the design F71 and RGM 109 and very unique. Even they outdated.

[@TheJasonBigdaddy]

This suit makes the Aries look good

[@filipjudar4781]

6:34 i remember that one from guardians of the galaxy

[@alexmakins9496]

I still wish we could get some modern high grades of these

[@BryantR372]

Pretty cool video

[@doc_havoc00heavywing37]

Rhm-109 Heavygum FE type, when the answer is more doca

[@fadedtiger3181]

Ive been waiting for this suit for a while.

[@zakhaevshub4735]

Finally the moment I've been waiting for ❤️

[@joncandib1721]

That Heavygun full Equipment reminds me of the Full Armor Gundam Thunderbolt version because it has extra weapons and a surprise attack on the enemies.

[@AFlyingEwok]

Maybe a video on the Formula series in the future? The MG F90 is a work of art and the A-to-Z Project makes the Strike series look cute.

[@ilullumaki4563]

Huh, a have a new found appretiation to birgit now, the guy push the heavygun so hard, crossbone vanguard suits being better, i'm not surprised cause they are probably some of the best quality when it comes to a late century suit

[@wr1ght939]

I really like these late UC mass production units. I hope they get high grades in my lifetime.(Okay maybe my grandkids’ lifetime)

[@MGBandit75]

I remember the g cannon as the MS that dropped a shell casing on a woman’s head.

[@williambenedictalava2634]

Hathaway suits looks lit (either the Federation suit to Mafty suits) Anyway the full equipment type finally uses the apfsds.

[@megagundamva2694]

Looking forward to the Javeline history kakrot

[@luminusprime]

Gundam Heavyarms: puny arms, giant guns RGM-109 Heavygun: smol boi close-combat MS 🤔

[@rob1223l]

Keep any gundam material coming !

[@LagunaShirogane]

I came here looking for development history on the Full Armor Gundam and the Heavy Gundam but didnt find one on your channel. I was lead to this video by KZbin and it refers to a different set of MS. Could you please do a development history on the FA Gundam, Heavy Gundam, FA Gundam Ground Type, and others in the Full Armor project by the Federation?

[@simiosinople2045]

I'm just here as a MSA-120 Draig stan

[@hks071]

At 5:00, that's a strange face on the right 2nd from right 2nd row up

[@versebuchanan512]

I like the Heavygun in the same way I like the Zaku II- it may be lacking compared to top-of-the-line suits, but in the hands of a skilled pilot, they could still absolutely bring the hurt and keep up.

[@cipherthedemonlord8057]

I regret not getting the old model.

[@notani3533]

Late UC isn't my favorite timeline since it doesn't have the spacenoids dilemma, but at least they're having interesting smaller MS which also doesn't use big fuel pipe exposed all over its design.

[@henry-bl3wr]

When in doubt add more dakka 👍🤣

[@ghostofrandom]

We just got the loto in GBO2. It's so smol.

[@BarelyDecentProduction]

Fuck yeah! The best MP suits ever! Thank you!

[@badwrongfun5541]

Isn't the MSA-120 supposed to be a high performance Heavy Gun variant? Then again I guess that is why it's here.

[@robertdrexel2043]

Really? It looks nothing like the Heavygun though?

[@badwrongfun5541]

@@robertdrexel2043 thats what the translated write up on Zeonic Translations about it says. And there's official art of the Heavy Gun wearing parts of 120's armor cloak/shroud (Perhaps the Vaporizing Applique Armor being tested?) with art of the regular Heavy Gun and 120 surrounding the hybrid unit. So that does also reinforce that there is a connection. I'd assume the internals are similar but it's the armor that's completely redone.

[@kakarot197]

Just dug a bit deeper and I can confirm that the MSA-120 is almost certainly an advanced version of the Heavygun. (Rough translation of the Japanese blurb I found: "Despite looking very unique, "it is said" that the MSA-120 is an upgraded/advanced version of the Heavygun". And in my experience "it is said" is commonly used when they want something to be true) As for the crazy appearance, it's apparently made by the Zeonic section of AE. Thanks for the comment. And even though it's too late to be included in this video, I'm going to do my best to remember to include it when I get to the F91 Development History (because the Vaporizing Applique Armor's concept was carried over to the F91)

[@badwrongfun5541]

@@kakarot197 it's a very small detail that is really easy thing to miss, so I don't blame ya. I didn't even remember it until the suit was shown in the video. And thank you for doing these vids.

[@andrewmccall837]

I wish Bandai would make some updates to the kits from F91. Besides the jegans and the gundam f91

[@Hektols]

It would have been interesting to see this smaller mobile suits fighting against the mobile suit of the One Year War and show the advantage of mobility and a harder to hit body.

[@Animeaddiction]

Have you done a history for the Jegan?

[@Gingy_2006]

The heavygun is the GM 2 of late UC, not terrible but its obviously a stand in until a proper next gen suit is made

[@crytex6441]

Is it confirmed that the Macedonia colony is pronounced "Mah-kah-doe-nee-ah"? I thought it would be the same pronunciation as the country "Mah-si-doe-nee-ah".

[@jeff1238191]

This is awesome could you please do one about the jegan

[@benchui580]

Still waiting for the RE/100 or HGUC heavygun and G-CANNON Bandai!

[@TheKing-qz9wd]

Just sounds like Jegan 2.0

[@andrewmccall9446]

bandai should do some 2.0 master grades and revives for the other f91 kits

[@MechaTheSpider]

Very long story short F91 kicks fucking ass

[@sethbennedetti753]

Great vid. Maybe some 00 content?

[@indystriesplaylist970]

Can we talk about Jupiter Empire MS? Or maybe "Thousand Custom" MS pleasee

[@heavyarms55]

Late UC content is harder for me to get into. It's pretty obscure and it can be difficult to find the content. I want more of the era to get anime or at least for the Manga to get official international re-releases. I'm not comfortable digging through some piracy site to find some old fan scans of them from dubious sources. And I prefer to enjoy content in a way that benefits the creators, if only slightly. Speaking of which, if you did lore videos like this just a little more often, say at least 1-2 times a week, I'd do that joining thing for your channel in a heart beat! But even as is, I try to at least like everything you post. And when I say "like this" I don't mean only super in depth development history vids only, I mean just lore focused videos, like this series, or even your QOTDs or What if Amuro Got the Alex - that series I'd love to see more of, I love what ifs like that! - or even if you just did some off the top of your head "Let's just talk about this cool Gundam thing" videos. :)

[@johnc2631]

Very cool info! I wonder how much better jestas, stark jegans, and rezels would have fared against the crossbone vanguard

[@MrRe-pg7fj]

They still wouldn’t have faired any better than the three modern Jegans in F91. For example in the F90FF manga three Rezels go their ass handed to them by one heavygun.

[@johnc2631]

@@MrRe-pg7fj awww thats too bad

[@thespikeheadboy3164]

F90 E type was disrupting their radars while the 3 Heavyguns were ready to ambush them in that test

[@stephenlussier9243]

Dude what are those suits @4:17

[@Fred1032MC]

Well F 91 it's like a Star Wars movie so, basically the Heavyguns are the Stormtroopers of the movie 🤔

[@lucaszeroimpactgamer4476]

i have a Question in the Cosmic Era universe o know thanks to you that the Alliance have 4 know Frames the 100 200 300 400 and 700 Hundred so do you know about the 500 and 600 and their funtions?

[@blackshadow37_Wraith]

well say what you want about the heavygun it along with the jegan are still 2 of my all time favorite grunt suits that and like stated in the video beargus was a greater pilot than he proclaimed to be

[@mobiuszero1018]

Two questions: 1-why does the gundam f90 look like the alex? 2-"Beam Launcher"? wouldn't 'Energy cannon' be more appropriate(but then again,i dont work at sunrise lol)?

[@viperinvoke9502]

What about the Hardygun? It is a variant of the Heavygun

[@gnxjoe9955]

Would like to have a video on Gundam Wing oz mobile suit development😁

[@HeirOfSparda]

Gimme an updated Heavygun kit!

[@freshbanana9948]

I wish they did more variants of geara zulu

[@sambellerose620]

No G Cannon Magna?!

[@ultimateknight4667]

Hope we can get a history on Mars zeon

[@marcosdheleno]

i never understood why anaheim went with such a ludicrous design while sinri went with a "traditional"(well closer to carbon copy) gundam design. shouldnt they be swapped?

[@SudrianTales]

Anaheim tried to be different to show off counting on their fans to keep them above their competitors. SNRI kept to a simple design but making it good and that's why they won.

[@romankvapil9184]

I look at the RGM-109 and I'm just wondering what black magic the engineers had performed to keep that suit upright with it's hardware placement so fucking lopsided like that.

[@captainrex6038]

If you make the ReZel or the Delta Project or the GM development history i'll give you a cookie

[@setsunamarina1566]

8:15 would buy the PG/ MG kit if Bandai releases it in the future... but chances are super low LOL

[@brunnen1]

more f91 mech coverage please

[@MegaMegaman87]

Anyone else hoping we get a master grade heavy gun at some point