SCUMP WAS SUPPOSED TO BE HIS BEST MAN, HOW IT CHANGED EVERYTHING.

[@justwilky7368]

Crim has been brilliant since the end of the season in his interviews. He's done well to keep his mouth shut all these years as painted as the bad guy and just kept his head down and keep playing. Props to him

[@BilalKhan-ph3sk]

Yh in an interview after beating Chicago at their home series he said I’m not gonna say anything and be professional and it’s in the past respect him for being the bigger person

[@matthewjones9956]

Facts

[@traetuusplays8987]

Main problem here? Young minds. Their first tangible brotherhood, and when that comes to an end. Both are the villains in their own story sadly. That is the precise moment when innocence fleets, and real life emotion sets in on being wronged, or doing the wrong. Any group of young men, that are this close, when that chapter closes this is the usual effect of those events. Nostalgic feeling for us older cats.

[@williamgriffith2016]

Under appreciated comment ^

[@adilbaccus6562]

This is perfect.

[@Seanself363]

Truth. They'll grow up and hopefully become wiser - I'm nearly 30 and I remember the exact kind of thing you speak of when I was similar age to crim and scump. A lot changes and hopefully they'll salvage their friendship

[@andygarcia9477]

okay edgar allen poe

[@traetuusplays8987]

@@andygarcia9477 uh....Not sure you used that in the right context there holmes. I'll let you think about it for a moment. 😅

[@gizmo8453]

Love seth, but this whole ordeal was some hs drama bs. Granted, the lad is still young and no one is perfect. But, there comes a point in time where people have to be professional. Nonetheless, I hope water is under the bridge in the coming future.

[@BigHeadFredTV]

I think it had more to do with Seth's gold digging ex Kenz. He was being a asshat in that situation. Glad to see him doing better in a healthy environment.

[@GrizzlyGrippz]

he aint that young anymore man lol maybe when he was like early twenties. isnt he like 26 now?

[@ateague01]

I think Seth has matured a lot since those days. He’s lived and learned as we all do. Oh my what the Optic dynasty would be today if they were able to stay together

[@HitManRickyTan]

He did it with nade too. I can't stand him

[@nickniehaus1763]

We’re here, they’ve made up

[@lotty4006]

I 100% see crims point

[@lofipro8584]

Exactly I like seth and all them but I could see them fucking him over I can see it, just how they act and how they screwed that one guy over 5-6 months ago took him off the starting line up he wasn’t that bad

[@anikenclem5926]

@@lofipro8584 gunless has a horrible attitude when it comes to certain people, but yes

[@ouwchy]

This is a business they just need to grow up.

[@BlooFlow]

@@ouwchy he found out the hard way loyalty isn’t a thing

[@bmugs_24]

Hopefully they can work things out! The Dynasty needs to be cool with each other again!

[@adamk9571]

It be cool if they patched things up

[@bubba1504]

No shot man all there egos are massive it’s just going to be let bygones be bygones

[@iDrexcy]

BUBBA I mean Matt, Seth, and Damon are good with each other and so are Damon and Ian. Matt and Seth just gotta work things out with Crim and they’re good

[@Sephiroth32vergil]

Nade and Crim didn't like each other for a long time and now they're cool. Maybe in time they'll learn to move past it.

[@ThaTruth223]

Seths too much of a man baby

[@adammatschullat195]

Thats real though, i thought he was the "bad guy" and didnt like him. Then i looked more and more and i feel bad for him. He lost friends and that sucks......almost makes the championship even more sweeter

[@puncher2453]

I would like to see scumps full side to this story

[@anikenclem5926]

@Vulpix haha ur mad

[@santosproductions2018]

@Vulpix scump carried them that’s why they mad 🤣

[@KW_94_25]

How people actually give a fuc about this is hilarious get a life

[@puncher2453]

@@KW_94_25 I mean you are here soo....

[@KW_94_25]

@@puncher2453 recommendations didn’t watch. 1 second loool

[@tunechifa]

When he said Seth was undroppable I felt it

[@HuzzxR]

Absolutely fantastic for Hecz to get Crim in and nice to see Crim explain his side really changes peoples views on the whole situation that happened and even better is Hector not taking sides and to hear it all out without taking his players sides.Fantastic episode!

[@Dan-zp4os]

LoL it doesn't Optic fans will be optic fans....

[@Samjie]

I always have the biggest respect for Crim. A brilliant competitor and great person.

[@teekgawd3728]

“ It was atleast a 100 less “ 100k? Damn!

[@joeybs4972]

Hecz is deffo a influence on me, I caught my self chuckling “then you got me, a great player. Another big ego”

[@ItsIntensityVX]

Imagine if they stuck together and let that WWII season go by and focus on the next one

[@GaryRichards813]

We can only imagine

[@fadingclipz2182]

Gary Richards yup😐🤧

[@matthewperez8387]

😢

[@EdgeKnox]

That would be a sick ass BO4 team

[@cxnx3371]

Who would they have picked up for 4th? I imagine Formal on main, Karma Crim flex and Scump and someone else on sub. I don't think Karma or Crim would have went to saug if Dashy was there, so its gotta be a sub. Huke maybe?

[@joshski85]

I love that Hecz does these but my guy, please stop making stories about you and let the person you're interviewing finish what they're saying. Once again, thanks for the content. Just trying to be constructive.

[@danyal4806]

So annoying

[@paulharwood3137]

It's his brand and you have to understand that. Hecz has been a shingle example of what we need . Still I digress he should shut tf up

[@jarettmillikan3680]

@@paulharwood3137 its not an interview lmaooo its a conversation, if he just asked questions this podcast would be dry as fuck

[@paulharwood3137]

@@jarettmillikan3680 I was probably out of line. You make a very good point .

[@josh.romani5345]

It’s not an interview. It’s a podcast. They’re just having a conversation

[@jimmytumbles9640]

*Crim describing breakdown of his friendship, that everyone wants to hear about and understand from his perspective* 1:20. Hector: Lemme tell you about mexican weddings, dog. 3:15 Lemme take this moment to address some of my critics, Crim. How about letting him talk, Hector? XD

[@perry2017]

Agreed hecz always interupts all his 'mates' to talk about himself, only interviews he doesn't is with more established geusts

[@johnnytest3230]

It’s a conversation about an experience both of them went through together, you can’t just expect only one side

[@perry2017]

Yeah just mean in general if you've watched most of his stuff you'll realise its not a dig he just likes to jump in on his freinds when they're explaining stuff

[@eduardodelgado2204]

Perry Way it’s called a conversation for a reason bud.

[@blainesider5217]

@AnticommentWarrior A clip of 12 minutes of the podcast l;mfao.

[@JohnnyEase]

Hecz interrupts too often. Disturbs the flow. I know he has something to say on the matter too, but hey... let a man talk

[@kwizzlerz]

true... difference in a good interviewer and a great interviewer

[@charliebledsoe2749]

not an interview

[@codith7456]

Jesus Hecz, would you let people finish what they're saying rather than constantly interupt and trying to make what theyre saying about you.

[@sebdeef1086]

Thank you

[@AyupChuck]

For real!!!! He’s got a real ego problem.

[@Ascendment]

I mean that's how podcasts usually work lol you gotta make conversation about both sides

[@AyupChuck]

Arsalon X Yh but you let the other person speak instead of constantly interrupting them....

[@EnkeiTenjin]

Called being rich as fuck and being able to do almost whatever you want in the industry and manipulate anyone you want. That is Hecz

[@cloudrehzii]

Damn crim really does love them. I hope they put the past behind them . Brothers aren’t supposed to be mad at each other forever

[@hustler666100]

I remember in a house vlog scump said he would never catch crim in titles or champs cos they was brothers and gonna team until they both retired. Then in the first crim podcast when he was still in optic Hecz asked him who is best teammate was and before Crim answered he said you cant say Scump cos i know ur gonna say it and Crim was like damn i cant say scump cos he was gonna say it. They were so tight. Then the best man thing. Hope it can all be sorted one day. Crim got a title out of it thats a positive from his side.

[@PyskoDude]

its kind of crazy to hear seth was supposed to be crims best man. their current divide is a real shame. hopefully it resolves similarly to the seth and formal divide. honestly the seth and nade divide too. seth is always getting into beef with valuable people in his life. real unfortunate

[@mrminiature11]

hmm seeing this written out is kinda eye-opening. People call Crim toxic but the common denominator here is Scump maybe it's him and not them.

[@BennieVredestein]

@@mrminiature11 good point bro

[@cookiesnruntz]

Because crim is a passive aggressive manchild

[@clemsin]

It really shows how great Crim is.. he is a winner and just brings the winning culture with him. He really is the goat... he helped OG become the powerhouse that it was... they weren’t really winning a lot..

[@sufferrng1717]

When you have 4 giant egos on a team, you have to make sure each player truly understands that they're in a situation of leading a losing team or being a piece of a winning team

[@moegerms]

Tragic story all jokes aside. Scump was HIGH AF off the HGH hormones....Héctor needed to check him. Formal just didn't give af at that point, that man was babysitting a bunch of whiny privileged bozo's.....but it did make for a sick 'villain' origin stor, it really helped Crim's career. Not that Porter needed it, but it made for the best drama/breakup in COD history. Crim is funny, Seth is funny, but him and Seth on a podcast isn't gonna happen until they both retire. Which won't be until they're in their 30's. It'll be cool to see Formal moderate that conversation for 'fact-checking'. Paperview shit $$$ 🤑🤑🤑

[@smithman013]

Yeah and taking way too much of that crap can cause various problems..

[@samb5358]

Formal babysitting a bunch of whiny privileged bozos? When he was on Luminosity?

[@jessewright7259]

I agree, but I'm pretty sure Scump was already off the HGH by BO3. It was only early on in his career that he was on it. You can tell because during BO2 he was super jacked and he was a ball of rage half the time...

[@maxc1214]

lol

[@JretnuH]

Yeah you don’t get “high” off of hgh lmfao. And Matt hates Ian so there’s no way he’s going to “moderate” anything he says, it’s probably mostly bullshit any way

[@farmall2403]

Hecz - the moxy you bring to this scene is refreshing. Not sure I could handle working with all those kids. You fill the role of mentor marvelously

[@r.j.b1065]

Dude thats why Dallas won the chip. 3 young insane Cod players with 2 experienced players. Crim and clay does all the work when it comes to strats and young kids give inputs to better those strats rather than ego clashing and then they just let illey and the boys slay it out.

[@hugoruda9049]

Crimsix, scump, karma and formal would've been the god tier team if they would've known how to play together. I guess that's what happens when you have too many goats on your team lol

[@Seanself363]

They were the galacticos (real Madrid) of cdl teams lol (you need to watch soccer to know the reference)

[@PRPLXD]

@@Seanself363 spot on

[@Revn47]

@@Seanself363 The Real Madrid right now. Is shit :)

[@abdiahmed1024]

More like the old Madrid with Zidane.ronaldo,figo and roberto Carlos

[@buddhastl7120]

Take it further. Crim and Karma have always known how to play with talent. Karma sacrificed to a role player and Crim gave up his main AR to Clay this year and ran a sub for most of the season. Those guys have teamwork. Narrow down who’s left.

[@axerluxe78]

I love how Crim starts off by saying there isn't a bad guy or a good guy in the situation yet the comments are still trying to make a good or bad guy out of it lol

[@garfieldslasagna9075]

if I took a shot every time hector dropped the f bomb I’d need 17 liver replacements

[@thetruffle123]

facts wtf😂😂😂

[@zaywill]

lightweight

[@garfieldslasagna9075]

@@zaywill WeirdChamp

[@BumN8]

i like the tape covering the chairs lmao no free advertisement. love this podcast tho

[@azahisalvador9702]

wait what, I’ve never seen Crim as the villain just a team breaking up and little beef

[@Alex-co7cq]

I think he was referring to the way that some of the “journalists” were covering/spinning it like Dex.

[@Sephiroth32vergil]

The community painted him as the villain in the situation which probably stems from Seth being more liked by the COD community.

[@anthony7440]

I see it as there’s rumors scump retiring so hec is talking to crimsix to get him back.

[@ThaTruth223]

Vittorio Fabregas yup and i was one of them, but noticed how much of a child seth was and it showed this entire COD season. and what’s funny is no one wants to say anything to him

[@isauced_]

Vittorio Fabregas nah it was just that when they talked that much shit and then started out with 3 L’s and the matches weren’t even close it looked sad especially after hastro saying we fucking shit on these guns online why are we below them in power rankings and then they got smoked

[@benh2428]

Just hope they can eventually become friends again. Never understood why crim got painted as the villain, apart from the fact that scump’s massive fanbase often get blinded in their fandom. I’m sure they will eventually as they get older, but can see why crim wouldn’t want to.

[@xaninite8247]

I've been thinking about how it all happened and went through kinda every perspective of it, and it really just seems like the Dynasty folded inwards during that time. Ego's were clashing and losing already makes it tedious but Seth's internet really was the last bit and he's even admitted that and hindsight is 20/20 in that time period. Follow that up with it breaking apart it's not hard to see that the shake up kind of destabilized the foundation- and then the whole franchise split hit everything and I do agree that Crim has every right feel like Seth chose others over him. I think really what put the actual wedge there was the "good guy/bad guy" narrative that took hold- it's a GREAT story but I mean had it not been for that I think that division wouldn't have been as bad. I guess my hope overall for this is one, fans stop going for peoples' throats in general when things like this happen (fans absolutely contributed to making the divide even more hyped up) and two, these two (and the dynasty in general) can become friends again. I do not want them teaming again, personally it should be in the past that we look back on and team wise it wouldn't work with Karma retired and Empire/Huntsmen teams are solid. But if there is a chance to at least see these boys reconcile and resolidify the old brotherhood outside of competitive I think it'd be a much better storyline than "good guy/bad guy".

[@MegaSoccerboy8]

Crimsix and Seth need to hatch this shit out . Brothers fights all the time man . We need y’all back together

[@MrMinzo55]

When they come back together they will be stronger than ever

[@petertheniceguy]

Can someone tell me like the story behind all this what actually happened ?I’ve been away from the scene for a couple years so I have no idea

[@solix5207]

Basically Scump had a bad year in WW2. Crim had a bad year in bo4. Scump didn’t stick with him after Crim stuck with him after scumps bad year. He texted formal after they lost champs but waited 6 months to tell him he didn’t want to play with him. Funny thing is he found out from Hecz and not from Scump

[@marcelsilva4348]

dude literally same, after BO2 i stopped keeping up w pro COD and last i remembered crim was a big dick to seth back then so to me it’s crazy to hear that he was supposed to be crim’s best man

[@nikhildabas2685]

don't forget crim will never forgive and never forget

[@RambinoYT]

Imagine, let me Brain storm! H3cz bought OpTic back....Seth and Formal is in NRG, but let's imagine he buys them or transfers them over somehow....and let's imagine...somehow Crimsix forgives Seth and join back onto OpTic and Karma returns....Just Imagine!

[@DeEj10414]

You honestly weren’t overly far off

[@RambinoYT]

@@DeEj10414 i know 😂 so close, just needed 1. I like this line up tho we have now

[@DAREDEVIL503]

I would normally hate these type of talk show things, but for some Fucking reason I’m in Love ❤️ with hecs show!! Idk why but keep up these Dope discussions!!!!!

[@James_2213]

“I was gonna take care of you” HECZ.

[@nitrosaur]

10:49 & 11:30 Crim: Rarely any single player changes that elevate a team immensely from T12 to 1st 100T Preistah in BO4: *hold my beer*

[@isauced_]

Nah that was crowders coaching he’s the best coach cod has ever seen a better one is clayster going to denial or formal going to envy

[@richardmcdonagh2595]

Hekz constantly turning it back to himself

[@Tehsniiikiiininjaa]

You’re right, mayor distraction from the points crim is making... stfu already

[@natric2948]

I'll be the first to admit without knowing the full story, Crim became the bad guy in my mind. Everywhere I just saw him being "the bad guy", especially eSports news sources. But because of this podcast I see how very very wrong I was. In this situation Crim was actually the victim, but everyone made it seem like he was the one who caused it all. Definitely sorry for the things I thought about him.

[@michaelreader2929]

Objectively speaking Seth was in the wrong, until Modern Warfare was about to start, then Porter was.

[@hugoruda9049]

Crim was just salty that he got kicked out of his team after 5 years. Dashy and tjhaly were pretty much directly responsible

[@hugoruda9049]

@Xplode exactly. They literally destroyed optic gaming lol. Even if Crim wouldn't have won this year you can discredit his wins. Now huntsman is gonna recruit dashy for cw which is pretty funny if you ask me

[@hugoruda9049]

@Xplode sorry I meant to say you can't discredit him

[@theycallmegod3084]

Kosmik Debris I think he was mad because he stayed loyal to Seth when he was a bot in WWII but then Seth didn’t want to play with Ian after BO4 and didn’t tell him till a couple months later.

[@wesselvdstarre]

Yeah but he did the same to nuke tho he was in nv for a long time and then decided to drop him without telling him

[@fpsessence7645]

Crim is talking about what I always been saying let’s make cod teams better by getting better not talent sniping and roster switching

[@TheCarfanatico]

This was great thanks for clearing it up

[@bubbles4eva700]

They both talk about the dynasty egos, how no one wanted to do the dirty work and admit what they where doing was in the teams best interest, but crim didn't give him self a negative either

[@fiction1249]

Give it time the dynasty still has a chance to reunite

[@Spryze]

I doubt it, i just hope they stop having beef with each other

[@MRBigWhite57]

I can’t see Crim ever leaving the team he’s on until he retires or they drop him. I hope they end up friends again too though. Sucks to be a part of one of the best teams ever made and you can’t even talk to them anymore

[@fiction1249]

JD057 I think they will become friends again. It just needs time

[@LudzillaJ]

The thing is, I watched a tonne of, if not all of the games they played and they often took turns carrying each other. WWII being the exception, they should have stuck together, tried their best and looked past what they knew was a shitty year. They all need personal growth on how to be a team. You can't succeed all of the time, but you can try to. Doesn't mean you quit on each other. That's immaturity. The team and brand was in no danger even with them losing in WWII.

[@codexj5645]

The commercial crimx was super great and nice

[@RambinoYT]

How do i hear chairs squeaking in the background at times....like what?! Am i the only one hearing that shit??

[@MrGregasaur13]

Lol @ the Villains World sticker on the laptop 🤣

[@and1chewy1]

Someone has to be the bigger man there. If you refer to your relationship as a "brotherhood" the someone needs to reach out. Family fight its facts but you suck it up and talk.

[@iggytheNiggy]

At the end of the day, its the end of the day... but at the end of the day, at the end of the day. You know

[@JSp8]

Don't be comin around here comin round here buddy..

[@iggytheNiggy]

@@JSp8 come on, just let me bang man. Let me bang again.

[@CENATHON]

H3CZ please let crim finish his sentence holy fook

[@SinlessDays]

Can someone tell me where the full podcast for this is please?

[@SUM0909]

Just look up crimsix eavesdrop

[@cxnx3371]

I lost respect for Scump right after it happened because of his work ethic and the way he drops people, but this made lose all of it.

[@seal-65_gggg39]

Ok cool

[@tannerwatters4879]

I know that there are probably videos for what I'm asking. However ill ask it anyway, I would like to see something breaking down how heck lost optic and what ever they are talking about the "two people" and just that whole situation. I stopped watching competitive cod after I.W. and then came back in this year. And wow at the changes

[@switchmaster5860]

He was talking about Dashy and Teej

[@ThunderDownUnder28]

Hecz lost Optic when Optic Jay (they never mention him anymore) sold Optic to the company who runs it now. I believe Jay had a little more power behind the scenes. Considering Hecz tried to buy Optic around the time Jay tried selling, but they didn’t let him buy. So after that, hecz was told how to run it, and this is why the dynasty is no longer a thing. Obviously on top of a lot of other bs between the team. But that’s what happened

[@tannerwatters4879]

@@ThunderDownUnder28 Is there a reason they didn't let Hecz buy? Also if there was beef with TJ and Dashy, has that passed now since Stump and Formal are playing with him again?

[@Frosty_RpT]

Seth is lowkey sly af, we just dont know it lol

[@s1qd103]

Shy or salty?

[@shawnii9833]

I think we all knew it

[@armexful]

@@s1qd103 silly

[@scottschleicher3865]

How is he sly?? TJ and Dashy said they didn't want to play with Crim last minute. Put Seth in a spot...don't play with Dashy n TJ or don't play with Crim. He picked Crim. It is what it is. Only thing Seth should have done, especially being Crim's best man was call him and tell. Even if he wasn't Crim's best man...teaming that long, Crim deserved a call.

[@qLStanzah]

Scott Schleicher you can see how he’s been sly since he left cos HECZ wouldn’t kick nade and then joined NV, kid has a ridiculous ego and is sly af to get his own way

[@xstacz297]

Bro crim keeps saying he wanted the team to stick 😭

[@imjeiku8758]

At the beginning, is he talking about T2P or Dashy and TJ dipping and renewing their contract with Immortals OpTic?

[@paroxysm1069]

@@switchmaster5860 WHO and Teej?

[@switchmaster5860]

Nicholas Beekham dashy lol autocorrect

[@lamusicadelblas]

Switch Master that’s sus🤣🤣🤣🤣

[@WidgetWagyu47292]

Switch Master sus as hell lmaoo

[@DinoQuixote17]

@@switchmaster5860 Bro you gotta delete that whole comment.

[@photosbyant]

Oof is all I got to say

[@ultraspank8479]

lol he is arrogant and Toxic and has a HUGE ego

[@iiEchelon]

@@ultraspank8479 and has the most wins. You wouldnt get there without having a massive ego

[@MrJamb0ree]

Hahaha

[@juIceGoD14]

UltraSpank karma?

[@ultraspank8479]

@@iiEchelon Crim said in another interview with Hectz that players including him are only good because they are placed around certain teammates...That was in Crims own words he said including himself

[@alb12crippin]

C6 you the goat dude

[@snakerooni]

I'm coming late to the party on this subject... but honestly... I think the current roster has the best chemistry I've ever seen in OpTic. Envoy, Scump, Formal and Dashy don't seem to have ego fights.

[@udownwito.p.p4153]

Crims the goat of cod.

[@afzalpatel]

What are they talking about in the beginning?

[@Alacuzam]

My respect for crim 📈

[@dannymane7228]

De que parte eres de Mexico hecz

[@bryangarcia3925]

juarez

[@TehMrClipz]

At least 100 less???!? How much is the salary god amn

[@joshuahack3231]

No cap scump seems like the bad guy in this situation

[@noltec420]

I wanna hear his side and compare

[@corybouch1720]

Love the COD drama but there must be deep bad blood. Seth was supposed to be his best man at his wedding bro that's bigger than COD. Fuck! Hope these 2 can figure shit out after they both retire

[@giovannivergara94]

Fuck, this mans just won Champs, and a big dub at that, and he still says optic shouldn’t have split when they did. That shit hurted

[@toasttoasted3492]

Crim start your own crew!!

[@CODFactory]

well, obviously we don't exactly know what happened, but with just the information that is out in public, it seems like it is mostly Seth's fault. Crim left him, Formal wanted to leave him and left him later on. Nadeshot had a fight with him. He had some ego issues, and I can understand why. When you are the best at the game, you will have some ego. But it looks like he now knows where he went wrong, that's why I like him as a player now. And they were all kids, that is the main problem in COD right now, people at the age of 18-19 are playing this game full time with very less money. They are not even mature enough to play in a team envt, they don't even know what are they going to do when they retire cause surely there are more examples of people who don't have much money once they retire from COD. This is still an up and coming field of esport, and I hope people like Hecz can change the whole envt of competitive cod so that pros are mature and can earn money. When I look at the pros twitter page, it looks like bunch of dogs fighting to be honest, taking digs at each other, so how can I respect them. I only watch them because COD is entertaining, but I cannot follow them

[@shawnii9833]

We all knew Seth has a bad ego

[@Redman_30]

Crim and clay now have 3 rings man clay is so underrated it’s not even funny

[@buddhastl7120]

And Clay usually played with lesser known talent and groomed them into stars. No doubt Crim, Clay, and Karma are the greatest 3 players in COD history by a huge margin.

[@hustler666100]

i actually agree but you cant just go on rings, thats one tournament over a year and look at JKAP lol hes terrible. if it was like a actual league and no knockout at the end the Dynasty would of had it every year until WW2

[@michaelfellner9822]

And in all the interviews, if everything is true but i strongly believe so, you get why Crim and Karma are the GOATs of COD and Scump isnt on their level: Theyre not just skilled but smarter from a player perspective. Crim always had the right ideas, his mindset was so good, it was him and the other guys who really took the team to the next level. Sure having a gunskill freak like Scump next to you is helpful but at the end of the day brain wins championships.

[@Butwhythoo]

Who were the two dudes?

[@sinatrashotya]

When is this guy gonna run some x-cross seminars? We need the training.

[@drewescobar2]

CHILL THEY BOTH MORE MATURE NOW. AMEN 🙏🏽

[@dominiksiodlok6870]

Good on yea crim

[@donnyheinze]

One day Crim,Scump and Formal will run that shit back for the times. Get under the optic name and just have the time.

[@thetexastickler5698]

Even tho I'm a Dallas fan "Dirty D represent" I've always kinda seen Crim as the bad guy honestly, until he just cleared things up with this pod cast.

[@paulharwood3137]

Doesn't make sense. From a career point how is he bad guy bro?

[@2guys1gun2]

Scump never speaks about the downfall of the dynasty because he was the main problem with the toxicness and excuses.

[@andresrobles5651]

These guys can rekindle their relationship for sure. But let’s get shit straight. If anybody thinks across the board Scump didn’t bring more value to the squad y’all trippin. Crim is a good pro, Scump is an elite pro. When we compare primes anyways. They’re both old now but I’d be willing to say Scump is a top 3 if not the top SMG Ever in COD. Crim isn’t top 3 anything by a long shot. I know he’s GOATED with rings but he’s always been surrounded by elite talent. People get upset with players like Scump, octane, Abezy.. but when you’re that good you have a certain type of stubbornness/cockiness that gives you an edge.

[@trevortorbeck2910]

I would love to see crim and Seth work things out and be friends some what again

[@MrAlex327]

Take a shot every time H drops the f bomb

[@HarmotiixHarmotiix]

Yo this is recent right?

[@jogonyachickennugget4911]

So are they still friends?

[@markduffield1489]

The fact all that shit got in the way of scump being crims best man is sad af man i can see why crim is up set they were his boys man and they shit on him i have huge respect you crim your the true goat i love scump but the fact scump and formal talked shit about you is shady all of you guys got me through hard times watching yous play cod you gave me something to look forward to either way i hope yous sort it all out huntman/OG?? for life

[@therealdc6098]

Dude I’ve fought friends over some bs next day hit each other up to go to a BBQ shit happens

[@crushedice9427]

Damn he took a 100k pay cut jeeez!!

[@sunnyg4261]

How much do these guys get paid :o

[@crushedice9427]

Top pros are easily taking 200K plus off of contract alone. That doesn’t include streaming money, tournament earnings, or endorsement deals.

[@toniioo6668]

so who actually dropped everyone from optic ?

[@JimboJamboYT]

People think this is drama? remember when Aui_2000 got kicked from EG after winning an $18.5 Million prize pool International for Dota2, even after making the game winning play with Universe to close off the bo5 none the less...

[@notlovescars]

Reunite the Dynasty please.

[@quotes6107]

I just got into FOLLOWING COMPETITIVE GAMING SO TO TRANSLATE THESE DUDES WAS LIKE THE WARRIORS WITH KD ? 🤔😂😂

[@Yousmellikemahn]

4 most winning players of all time on one team.

[@quotes6107]

TOD 🔥🔥 damn bruh wish u would of been gotten into watching shit smh 🤦🏽‍♂️ started off w scump ran into one of his vids and kept watching

[@markduffield1489]

I wish formal would sort his anti social behaviour out too its not good the fact he shys away from team bonding and shit that really gets to me him saying no to getting a flight to Chicago for champs is silly man he needs to grow out of that shit man

[@jxstified7558]

He had a girlfriend and said no one wanted to scrim on optic and they needed a scape goat to blame the losses on and said it was formal not hanging out.... he already spoke about it check it out before you blame formal

[@mikehoncho3015]

Yami you still have to admit formal is still extremely weird and antisocial at times which took away from their potential chemistry

[@jxstified7558]

@@mikehoncho3015 I mean I think crim made the chem not that great he bitched at the team a lot. Scump and formal have the best chem right now I think they had some probs a while ago but seem fine now.

[@shafialanower3820]

Yami it doesn’t help if crim constantly throws shades at his past teammates

[@lozicrazy]

?..

[@colinreeb5317]

please be friends again yall were so funny together

[@eltoro764]

Wow great insight and pretty much exactly how I saw it at the time. I feel scump costed huntsman this year with selfish plays as well. To make it clear I like scump but you gotta call it how it is.

[@stoney3-_-6]

You high? He made mistakes just like every other player... but... he had an amazing year. I don’t think he costed He honestly had a fantastic year

[@stoney3-_-6]

El Toro ya like I said.. obviously everyone makes mistakes. You could say he was worried about stats because everyone was.. or.. maybe in his head he didn’t think he had the angle. Or maybe he was thinking he wouldn’t win the fight.. who knows. But his year was actually incredible. Not trying to dick ride him because I’ll be the first to say when he he played like shit at an event. Or the whole year seemed off. But this year was not that so.. just my opinion.

[@ThaTruth223]

Stoney3 \-_-/ nah scump was on some nut shit all year including his attitude

[@cooper2973]

Imo Crim kinda labeled himself the villain I always just thought everyone was tired of teaming and broke up bc of that

[@Micael8000]

4:15 ”had to take a cut [...] at least a hundred.” A hundred dollars less a month or a hundred grand less a year? Or what?

[@stetsss]

100 grand less per year

[@Micael8000]

@@stetsss yeah, I figured. Thanks. But that just sounded crazy when I thought about it...

[@JimBob-rm4jz]

BO3 team was elite 😪