Hedningarna - Täss'on Nainen

Täss'on Nainen by Hedningarna from their 1994 album Trä.
Translation from lyrics.wikia.com.
Background painting by Robert Wilhelm Ekman (1808-1873), "Ilmatar" (1860).
The subject of this painting is the beginning of the Kalevala, the birth of the world, and the Finnish goddess Ilmatar.

[@mistouko]

I saw them twice in Portugal. Still one of my favorite bands.

[@nicolas__788]

Fun fact: the word hedningarna means ''the pagans'' in swedish

[@moisuomi]

Meaning any pagan even Egyptian

[@Carolinenor]

Heathens. People of the heathen grasslands, herders.

[@oscargarciamiguel6745]

Música folk sobresaliente. Espero que perdure eternamente. Un saludo a tod@s desde España.

[@chimgeebaatar7966]

The Hu brought me here. Beautiful tune and I love it. Greeting from mongolia

[@urbankotto9685]

I love The hu.Try out the Swedish band Avatar.Not the hu but funnier.

[@martonjuhasz1544]

wow :O this gave me goosebumps, lots of love from hungary

[@Joonavainio]

Yup. Synti is a perverted loanword from the "sin" of the Indo-European languages. Here it means indeed synty (birth). The spellsong is about Ilmatar who gave birth to the world and Väinämöinen, the first man. Impregnated by the sea and the wind. The tuuli/tuli (wind/fire) is a recurring pun in their songs with multiple other meanings, too. As in "came", etc.

[@freddiejupiter1833]

the concept of synti/sin is christian and precedes pagan culture this music trying to portray.

[@finnicpatriot6399]

Ilmatar is not even real, Lönnrot came up with it. Not part of the original authentic poetry.

[@worldtv5848]

@@finnicpatriot6399 what is original authentic poetry, some examples?

[@finnicpatriot6399]

@@worldtv5848 The actual collected poems and not the edited compilation? Is that not obvious? SKVR (Suomen Kansan Vanhat Runot) is authentic, Kalevala isn't.

[@ripa30]

Gandalf = Väinämöinen ?

[@Guitar101Ramstein]

One of my favorite songs they have done, and still is since 1994.

[@RZAJW]

The last minute and a half gives me so much fucking shivers ..

[@adamjones3818]

Sabbath 🙏

[@gaialunerousse9288]

Un chant sorcier d'une grande puissance.

[@IljaThePerson]

This is mesmerizing...

[@leonschmidt4265]

When singing I was sitting with crossed legs and moving forth and back with my upper body. It is so relaxing because it is one whole sooth breathing out with focus on the moment.

[@thorvalld]

Whenever I listen to this, I feel power raging...

[@rakhanthanatos]

Fucking love Hedningarna.

[@ChuckDeFuque]

Täss'on nainen tuulen tuoma Tuulen tuoma ve'en vetämä Meren aaltojen ajama Meren tyrskyn työntelemä Kuin mie käynen laulamahan Laulan mie meren mesiksi Suoloiksi meren somerot Meren hiekat hernehiksi Yhen vyöni vyötännällä Yhen paitani panolla Solkeni solittamalla Polkimeni painamalla Nouse luontoni lovesta Syntini syvästä maasta Syntini syvästä maasta Haavan alta haltiainen.

[@aarnilapsi9336]

The song is actually about controlling the sea, as the sea is associated with many Goddesses and feminine power. I chanted this while swimming in the Mediterranean Sea and I recommend it!

[@davidus9702]

But it is also very harsh and masculine. We have kings of the sea, not queens that rule. Poseidon, Njord, etc...

[@pyromorph6540]

@@davidus9702 Ahti

[@davidus9702]

@@pyromorph6540 Thanks, I didn't know about Ahti!

[@finnicpatriot6399]

@@pyromorph6540 Ahti is a king, Väinämöinen is the God of waters.

[@scythianking7315]

Isn't the Ocean almost always associated with Gods and the Masculine? Water and Sky are usually male. Fire and Earth usually Female

[@EneriGiilaan]

There is probably a translation error here. AFAIK in general "synti" in Kalevalean poetry doesn't mean "sin" but "birth" ("synty" in modern Finnish). "Sin" is a "modern" Christian concept - and of course "birth" makes much more sense here in any case.

[@alarik36]

Eneri Giilaan Then it could be a chant that is asking Ilmatar and groundcreatures, who live under the aspenroot for a easy delivery/less pain etc..

[@timomastosalo]

Sin is not a modern concept, it was in Judaism before Christianity was born. And actually it has been known the world over 1000s of years. It's the debt you owe someone, when you wrong him or her. That's why people in the religions seek to appeace God or gods. That's what we try when we hurt someone we're in contact with - we try to compensate. We can also you words like debt, mistake, bad, fault, wrong, evil. My bad etc. = My sin.

[@freddiejupiter1833]

judaic culture is still very recent compared to ancient post ice-age finno-ugric cultures

[@Fear_the_Nog]

@@freddiejupiter1833 there were no "finno ugric" cultures during the last ice age. In fact, one can argue that truly anatomically modern humans hadn't reached Europe at that time. Cro-Magnons, perhaps, who were completely unrelated to Finns. No, Hebrew culture has been attested to at least the first millennium BC. Whereas Finno-Ugric culture had no recorded historical records, until at the earliest, the early middle ages. you can say that Finns were much more primitive and hence give off the appeal of being more ancient, but truth is Judaic culture was there long before the Finns even split off of the Sami.

[@finnicpatriot6399]

@@Fear_the_Nog Finno-Ugric cultures have existed long before written record, as shown by archeology. Metallurgy had been achieved thousands of years BC. Not sure how peoples with advanced metallurgy, oral tradition, high sense of hygiene etc could be called primitive.

[@trappaskunk]

Sing this during Sauna for full effect.

[@collectionoftheinternets6873]

Sauna? Can you educate me?

[@nicolas__788]

@@collectionoftheinternets6873 do you not know what a sauna is?

[@collectionoftheinternets6873]

@@nicolas__788 gotta be maximing my full effect here. Par is the force of a thousand suns

[@nicolas__788]

@@collectionoftheinternets6873 wut

[@collectionoftheinternets6873]

@@nicolas__788 exactly

[@Joonavainio]

Oh, and in the Karelian dialect "synti" may also be a an imperative of "get born". As always, Finnish spellsongs are full of puns. But otherwise a nice translation.

[@kalevala29]

Is Karelian different from Finnish?

[@ルシラムス]

@@kalevala29 Karelian and Finnish are from the same language family, have a alot of common words, and sound really similar, but are different nevertheless. A person speaking Finnish and a person speaking Karelian would have some difficulties understanding each other, but it is possible. I'd say it's way more similar to Finnish than Estonian.

[@mikkolappalainen_]

@@ルシラムス Finnish is strange language in many ways, because there is also dialects in modern Finnish, that are heavily different. The capital slang and lifetime Savonian might have almost similar problems in understanding eachother.

[@finnicpatriot6399]

@@ルシラムス It's a dialect

[@Vargsk]

@@finnicpatriot6399Karjalan kieli ei ole suomen murde

[@Espada500]

I rememmber having this song on my Mp3❤❤

[@ChuckDeFuque]

Translation by Google Translate, anything wrong it is their fault! Here is the woman brought by the wind Brought by the wind, pulled by the water Driven by the waves of the sea Pushed by the sea's cod Like I'm going to sing I sing the honey of the sea Salts from the sea The sands of the sea into peas One belt at the waist With one of my shirts Snapping my buckle By pressing my pedal Get up from my nature slot My sin from the deep earth My sin from the deep earth Elf under the wound.

[@ChuckDeFuque]

My pleasure.@PirkkaPekkaErareika-dn2wi

[@EneriGiilaan]

One common translation mistake here - they are singing about birth/origins not sin. Another one is *probably* the 'wound' - I guess the last line should be: An elf from under an aspen (tree).

[@thelightning1919]

0:01 - 0:30 this part is so good I would like to hear sounds like this

[@rickleblanc8900]

Never heard this band before. Very tribal, chanting native American-style music with a strong European celtic feel. Don't know how else to describe this. Hypnotic as fuck

[@uadhlagash7280]

This is neither Native American nor Celtic. It is distinctively Finnish, and based on Karelian singing. Completely European, but nothing to do with the Celts. It's Finno-Ugric.

[@pyromorph6540]

@@uadhlagash7280 Probably refrencing the style of music.

[@scythianking7315]

Oh boy here we go again. No it is NOT Native American in any way, and it doesn't even sound similiar to Native American music. Pure European Folk music You people have been so brainwashed you can't recognize that Europe has it's own Culture and music, it's sad. EVERY video related to European Folk music is full of people commenting how it sounds NatiVe AmeriCan or AfriCan. It's getting old.

[@Atheneastro]

Awesome!

Uf, jsou to ale šamani!!)

[@fr4nbl]

Song in elven qenya :)

[@CyanWyrmie]

Speaking of Tolkien, the suffix -tar is feminine in Finnish. Keep that in mind next time you read about Eru Iluvatar creating the world with the ainur or Sauron disguising as Annatar

[@theexistentialist.5530]

Wow

[@АннаПивень-э9ъ]

🙂👍

[@gunaybil630]

best

[@bloedearse5320]

Wyśmienite

[@eimeta1948]

Nainen tässä on Ilmatar. Nainen here is Ilmatar

[@int19h]

Somebody needs to make a theremin cover of this.

[@Voondubah]

x0.50 speed O_O

[@ИринаУтешева-ю2д]

Hail FREYJA !!!!!!!!

[@statostheman]

She is Ilmatar. You can say she is mother earth.

[@tp-vz7od]

Täss´on miäs vm 1947

[@Transterra55]

Makes my Scandinavian DNA spin around like a proper pagan...

[@moisuomi]

This isn’t Scandinavian don’t you dare say we are Scandinavian you 😡

[@pyromorph6540]

It's Uralic

[@scythianking7315]

@@moisuomi Yes, it is! Finland is in Scandinavia, and the population's DNA is, and always has been, a majority Scandinavian(Germanic), with the rest being mostly Eastern European(Baltic and Slavic), then to a smaller degree Eurasian(Uralic). So, yes, they absolutely are "Scandinavian", with a small amount of Uralic influence

[@moisuomi]

@@scythianking7315 We have more Baltic ancestry than you would expect. Very similar to Estonians. Are Estonians Scandinavian? FUCK NO

[@leonschmidt4265]

I am on the way of finding out where my roots are. Idk, I could sing pretty fluent while singing Finnish for the first time. I cannot even speak the language. I believe it could be in my DNA. Looking forward to the test. Quote from comments: talvetar3385: "yes, that is one example. It is synty, birth. And it all about the Kundalini energy rising all way up to the crown chakra for shamanistic purposes. This is a spell. It does not mean only sexual energy. It is also haon alta haltijainen. The energy is rising from the earth, metaforia for ground chakra, Hako is a tree already fallen down. So the energy is rising from Mother earth."

[@valentine7276]

kaipaan niitä päiviä...

[@jrsgarage7623]

Here again

[@talvetar3385]

These lyrics are funnily wrong 😂

[@EneriGiilaan]

Old Finnish folk poetry - quite hard to translate exactly. One big mistake - the term 'synti' is translated as 'sin'. Sin is not a concept that belongs to the ancient Finnish world view. The meaning here is 'birth': syntini = syntyni = my birth or my origins.

[@talvetar3385]

@@EneriGiilaan yes, that is one example. It is synty, birth. And it all about the Kundalini energy rising all way up to the crown chakra for shamanistic purposes. This is a spell. It does not mean only sexual energy. It is also haon alta haltijainen. The energy is rising from the earth, metaforia for ground chakra, Hako is a tree already fallen down. So the energy is rising from Mother earth.

[@EneriGiilaan]

@@talvetar3385 Hmmmm ... I guess I agree in principle . However I must say that I find it kind of baffling or even objectionable if you try to combine concepts of ancient Finnish shamanistic world view system with some totally alien - like 'chakras'. It seems as appropriate as mixing the concept of ''sin' in to the mix..

[@talvetar3385]

@@EneriGiilaan oh I am sorry. But it is all about that, spirituality, like shamanism anywhere Else in the world. The spell is about rising Kundalini energy. When it stays in lower chakras,, so it is only sexual energy. Fysiologia fact too. 💚

[@leonschmidt4265]

@@talvetar3385 Thank you very much. This is very interesting to me. I am a practicioner of this spiritual practicion. Awesome to read about this randomely. All the best on your paths!

[@redgreen6436]

Arvoton lunttu jolla ei oo sanomista mihinkään.