heejin "vivid" theory | loona

[@lgbtitzy354]

Loona stans are genius, I’m scared.

[@lilyophelia7369]

omggg ahahah

[@nikkiustares778]

I love FBI Loona stans

[@lilyophelia7369]

HAHAH aye that's me

[@beldinlov13]

...you have no idea how much I (and might be most Loona stans) have been waiting for 1/3 theory vids. And yours is genius one. Can't wait for your next analysis on other 1/3 girls. The right odd eye may indicates the "woke" member of unit (ones who are aware of Loonaverse & possibly Mobius): - HeeJin - Choerry - ViVi (although ppl said hers are alien-esque & in galaxy pattern, not moon like the OEC's) - PERHAPS, THE 12TH GIRL

[@lilyophelia7369]

thank you so much!!!!! i really appreciate it :) and yep those are who i believe so far too!

[@lilyophelia7369]

also maybe yves

[@TicTacMI]

Something I noticed a lot in Go Won's MV is how they play with the concept of shadow vs. light. Go won, at first, is afraid of the light and would rather remain in the dark... I'm guessing it alludes to playing dumb, "being in the dark" on something. Idk if that saying exists in Korean language tho. But anyway, Heejin's MV plays a lot to being in the light... In fact, there's so much light coming through it produces rainbows, reflects off of confetti (bathtub scene), pokes through windows (bathroom glass-hanging scene), her dance shot has all the lamps on, she is shown sitting around lamps, etc. So it makes sense Heejin just came from Eden and is now in the light fully. Also, Heejin's right eye is covered by the red spider (red is, of course, Kim Lip's color. The first girl unveiled in OEC), and her dance move "BE OKAY" has her circling her right eye.

[@lilyophelia7369]

LOVE THIS THEORY YESSS

[@unbothered5240]

I have been commenting this exact thing. 😂 They kept saying heejin would introduce the world of loona.. and he video literally explains the creation and process of the loona loop. The only thing is i think the woman wearing black that tells her to clean up is symbolic of her mobius girl.. and the 12th member literally makes heejin set it all into motion. Her job being to create a vivid array of colors in her "bland world". Vivid literally held all the secrets we'd need.

[@lilyophelia7369]

exactly!

[@7cupoftea]

I'm getting goosebumps from this. 😱 amazing theory! maybe the 12th girl rang the bell or stalked her.

[@lilyophelia7369]

thank you so much love!! it's possible the 12th girl followed her into this world?

[@idktbh6413]

ah ah imagine fallen angel...

[@bbangssaz]

how might this be possible? Didn't Olivia Hye join Loona one day before debut?

[@bellalalala3327]

@@bbangssaz no she didn't. Olivia Hye was a trainee for one day before joining loona. the loonaverse is a story; even though at that time they hadn't revealed Hye yet, her arc was already being thought since Heejin's mv. that's my guess.

[@bohosoul851]

There's a theory video about how Gowon's mv is connected to Heejin's(I don't remember yt channel). They compared how Gowon's seemed to lack color and how the house was empty, while Heejin's was more colorful and the house had stuff in it. For some reason I haven't really seen a theory video on any of the 1/3 unit besides ViVi, so thanks for posting this video up.

[@lilyophelia7369]

yeah that's what i was noticing in this video too! i think because the loona 1/3 videos were the first so the loonaverse was unknown at that point, it was harder to make videos back then. but now we know more about it and can see the old mvs in a new light! thanks for the love

[@bohosoul851]

lily kim no problem and I can't wait 😃😃

[@girlgroupstan2767]

i notice that in the scene at 6:03 heejin has a lamp over her head, just like gowon had a chandelier over her head for most of one and only

[@lilyophelia7369]

i noticed that too! yeojin has one in her mv too

[@ДаняТаргарян]

or like Go Won has cat in her video

[@timingmile7030]

Great video - I was watching Heejins MV the other day as well and noticed how much it links to the LOONAverse now. It is funny how much you can pick apart their videos now and see that so much was missed - exciting!

[@lilyophelia7369]

i knowww! never would have been able to make this video back then, but with every new mv we can learn more and then see past mvs in a new light!

[@sacha5985]

Eight months later, but, when we see HeeJin turn around (to look at herself) it reminds me of the ending scene of Egoist MV, from Olivia Hye, when Olivia turns around to look at HeeJin. This is supposed to also represent the mobius I think??

[@dasha786]

and now we have heejin appearing at the end of the last member, olivia hye, mv soOOoOoo !!

[@lilyophelia7369]

exactly!

[@alanma1588]

8 => infinity => cycles, passage of time, evolution; 8th member is choerry, which is why she can be in all 3 worlds? :o

[@madiemaelou]

This group has the most complicated story and I love it. ❤️

[@JustSomeGuyWithAMustache886]

You gave me goosebumps, chills and blew my mind.... amazing I am speechless. I semi thought in my head that Heejin (my bias) was to innocent to have a huge part in the lore but holy.... I don’t even know what to say 12/12 video

[@allanbrogim1074]

PLEASE, make a review on others MVs from 1/3 era!

[@lilyophelia7369]

I would love to!!! I will try my hardest

[@moonlitgalaxy5940]

after this vid i immediately subbed to you because this theory makes so much sense!!!! keep it up!

[@lilyophelia7369]

ahh thanks so much!! lots of love

[@knifeson2136]

idk where this theory originated but i have heard people speculating that oec is incomplete and is supposed to have 4 members. i assumed this meant one of the eden girls would be a part of oec somehow but with the way youve been relating heejin to oec in this video makes me think that she is the 4th oec member. we all know that heejin is of course 1/3 and not oec but as you say in this video, she seems to be sort of traveling from eden to 1/3, its not that much of a stretch then assuming that she will some day trvel to oec. all these things linking her to oec like the spider over her eye etc. Also, before i got into LOONA i had seen heejin w the spider over her eye in my recommended and i had also seen jinsoul with the eyepatch. that made me think that those two mvs were related before i even watched any of their mvs. Anyway, my point is maybe Heejin is the rumored 4th oec member in one way or another? EDIT: and now we have olivia (love her!!!!!!!!!!) who not only had tons of references to oec in her video but also had references to 1/3 i specifically have seen a theory that olivia IS heejin (in fiction of course lol) in the sense that when olivia hye fell from eden and hid in the world she hid in the 1/3 world and became heejin. thus she is both the first and the last! this fits well into my theory!

[@7cupoftea]

I read some theory that said it could be vivi. reason: first, her solo mv focused heavily on her color. second, she have an odd eye but it's not identical to oec. she's the only member in 1/3 with different hair color, in yves mv her hair was blonde.

[@knifeson2136]

Oh you're right! I forgot all about vivis eye! thats super interesting!

[@lolunlilly4044]

Speaking about skills, she would definitely fit the concept of OEC, so she might actually be a part of it.

[@tiaroksurworld]

i think vivi was supposed to be in oec but bc of yeojins age, she had to be apart of 1/3 instead

[@elle_na619]

my theory is Olivia is The Devil (fallen angel) and when jinsoul was a fish (a.k.a prisoner) she made a contract with the Devil (olivia) for granted her Foots/Feets (you can see an image of fish tail becoming Jinsoul feet in her Singing In The Rain MV), but in exchange she gave her 1 eye to Olivia (which is why we can see Jinsoul wearing eye patch in the sweet crazy Love, and it also why Olivia is connected or could gain access (eye) to the OEC (also explain why at the beginning of the MV it was Gray/Black n white or no colors (Olivia color is Black/Gray right), but it doesn't mean Jinsoul is one eye blind it just mean that she's some kind of spy or an eye for Olivia to the Underworld Girls (more theory below) and so in Loonaverse i think it contains 3 universe: 1. Human (Our World/Real World) = Sub Unit Loona 1/3 HEEJIN (Rabbit), HYUNJIN (cat), HASEUL (Bird), YEONJIN (frog) Their spirit animal also represent an earth or normal animal. VIVI was a human before (Deer) but she was dead/killed possibly by Olivia (The Devil), and now Vivi is an Android. she has 2 MV which 1 of them showing story when she was once a human and the other one is when she became Android. 2. Underworld (Fictional creatures/Myth) = Sub unit OEC (Odd Eye Circle) KIMLIP (Owl) Owls are a sign of death in many cultures, including some Native American tribes. so KimLip is a dead soul a.k.a Ghost (this explain why her MV shoot in an actual haunted building in Korea. if u want to learn more about owl Myth click here www.mnn.com/earth-matters/animals/blogs/5-myths-and-superstitions-about-owls JINSOUL (Fish/Mermaid). she is also the eye for Olivia the Devil, in Disney movie The Little Mermaid Ariel also made a contract with a devil gave out her voice in exchange for feet to be able go walk in a normal world to chase her lover/prince. same as Jinsoul she then could walk or enter human world to chase/lure CHOERRY who also normal human or supposed to be part of Loona 1/3 but then enter the Underwold because of eating a Cherry from Jinsoul (whom is an Underwold girl). CHOERRY (Bat), her character also similar with Alice in wonderland, whom got lurred to another dimension or another world, even tho she is human she could travel to the Underworld and join Kimlip & Jinsoul they becoming OEC. the sub-unit OEC represent 3 different moon (world) that is collide became one condition called Odd Eye Circle, this is also explain how 3 of them is came from 3 different world. 3. Eden (The Angels & The Devil) YVES, CHUU, GOWON, OLIVIA (they are all fallen angels) it started with angel Yves (Swan) who eat her forbidden fruit (Apple) on purpose to be exiled to the earth and build her own squad (the last 4 members).Yves also met Vivi in Human World where they became friends when Vivi was still human. CHUU really like Yves so she end up eating her forbidden fruit (Strawberry) to get Yves attention and join her squad. GOWON (butterfly) she actually doesn't want to join Yves & Chuu, so at first Gowon try to hide from them, but tricked to eat her forbidden fruit (pineapple) OLIVIA story is a little much darker, she possibly the first Angel that Yves wanted to recruit but Yves change her mind after seeing her real intention, Olivia spirit animal is a Wolf afterall (predator), so instead bring Olivia to human world Yves let go of her (thrown) her to pit of hell instead or some kind of basement (in the MV), however she found her strength when she too eat her forbidden fruit (blood plum) then became the one and only DEVIL in this LOONA universe, she then climb up to the human world, on her way up (to the human world to follow Yves squad she encounter Jinsoul from the Underworld (which is why we can see her rapping in olivia MV) and this also conclude my theory of Jinsoul made a contract with The devil (olivia) to get her freedom (feet to walk in human world) in the MV Jinsoul still in her Neon Blue lighting kind of Prison. (we don't see this blue prison anymore when she gain her freedom and join the OEC), there is also possibilty that Olivia order Jinsoul to kill Vivi (this is where Vivi met Jinsoul in her MV in hongkong), which is why the words `Fallen Angel` in Olivia MV written in chinese. and why Olivia want Vivi dead possibly because of Revenge to Yves for throwing her away. back to Olivia, after she met Jinsoul and granted her wish she then finally reach the top (or means she arrived in the human world where she met Heejin in the end. now this is how LOONA is created (3 universe finally met) and how they are all connected.Mind Blown. who is ur fav story / character / bias? , my bias is Kim Lip & Jinsoul, i love the Underworld, but my fav story is Olivia because its sad and sinister, i kinda dig in the scary vibe.

[@landrigray9100]

The loop also makes cense because of HeeJin appearing in Olivia’s mv

[@yeoreumyo]

I'M INLOVED IN YOUR THEORIES!!!😍😍😍 I'M SUPER EXCITED FOR YOUR NEXT THEORIES!!!

[@lilyophelia7369]

YAYYYYY THANK YOU SO MUCH! X

[@lilym1797]

Woooop I love these so much. So good!!!!

[@lilyophelia7369]

thank you omg!! means so much to me :)))

[@lilym1797]

lily kim yeah literally I watched that video like 10 times looking for things and couldn’t find anything 😂😂😂 You’re so clever for coming up with things like this :)

[@lilyophelia7369]

ahh thank you! means a lot :)))

[@kannayoshi9772]

Loona.. loop.. the eden girls leaving eden.. and heejin preparing and cleaning the place for them. Will the girls be reunited and group together and go through the loop again together? And they debut the loop will represent each of their concepts?? Innocent, girl crush and whatever the next subunit concept is??? I have so many questionS I CANT WAIT FOR THE DEBUT

[@pleh861]

Okay but WHAT my world has been flipped right after I watched the Möbius strip theory HOW CAN SUCH A COMPLEX THEORY BE FORMED IN MERE 3 MINUTE MUSIC VIDEOS HOWWW

[@lilyophelia7369]

hahaha i knowww it's too much yet so amazing !!

[@cynthia8043]

I really like your theoriess 💕💕

[@lilyophelia7369]

that means so much thank youu

[@icedmomotea2876]

At 1:24 you mention the possibility of the blurred person being Olivia but at 5:40, Heejin is in the same position and seems to be wearing the same outfit of the blurred figure you believe could've been Olivia. I'm wondering if that really was just Heejin from Eden or she's seeing a loop of herself, as she is explaining the loonaverse through imagery.

[@ivi1ful]

Ahasisla evgwiajs. I dont know what to think after this:-: bbc has truly blesses us with an amazing concept! Thanks for the video :)!

[@lilyophelia7369]

thank you so much!! x

[@smoothkidd272k6]

2:43 u wanna know why u cant find Yves, Chuu, and GoWon because they are in the same realm as HeeJin. HeeJin is in the Eden world in this video. Also Olivia is there. Olivia and HeeJin are the two that makes the loop. (Common sense lol) while others can jump to there places, like Hyunjin, Haseul, ViVi, JinSoul, Choerry, and Olivia(did she jump to the real world at the end of the video???). 3:50 u might as well add Olivia to her top cause her OFFICIAL color is gray. NOTE: im looking at the strip in the name LOONA/⬅️that thing, thats their official color mark.

[@manuelilass]

omg i love your theories

[@lilyophelia7369]

thank you so mucchhh eeeep!

[@remvalk991]

i luv your videos!! pls do more of all the mvs!!:D

[@lilyophelia7369]

thank youuuu!! i'll try ;)

[@regretregret956]

4:54 I agree, it was stated that Choerry is a fruit bat and that she can travel between the three worlds

[@muhammadimamnajiyullah1420]

Please do more, I really love the theory

[@lilyophelia7369]

thank you ah!

[@ДаняТаргарян]

2:48 You are right, in yyxy the intro is black and moon is reversed 4:57 Choerry's mirrors are circles and when she danced in her mv there were holes above her, that's like Yves threw an apple to Choerry in new, through round mirror above Choerry. Also everything reloves around number 8, it is when Choerry is the last member before members of yyxy who are in eden

[@totolo3851]

i don't think that the other girl is the 12th member because the 12th member wasn't decided yet at that time (i think) it's probably hyunjin

[@soyedgar1831]

I get vibes that Heejin is the creator of Loonaverse. As she knows what will happen at any time, like an omniscient kind of good.

[@barefootskyAJ]

3:52 omg and then black striped whatever it is, IS OLIVIA

[@lilyophelia7369]

probably! since she is black but also used grey !

[@dannylavender]

For the shoes, I think the "orange" ones are actually red and for Kim Lip. The shoes next to them are YeoJin's because YeoJin is given them at the start of "Kiss Later". The white ones at the bottom are for Olivia.

[@chaeyeonlee1156]

U are so freaking smart,😭🥺 THIS IS TOO COOL I CAN'T EVEN HSHSHSHS

[@maneetsodhi4449]

Hey, about the mobius strip, since it is a loop and it’s possible to get to opposite sides of the strip as it’s continuous, I would think that multiple members could be at the same point, just different sides. It’s kind of as though they’re on opposite ends or are mirror images of each other? I don’t know but I thought that maybe looking at it this way could be interesting.

[@elainekay1912]

Ohmyghaaad im waiting for thisss!! Thank you so mucch moree loveees to your channel 💕 and im hope you make from hyunjin to gowon hihihi. So much appreciated thank you so muchhh!!! 😙

[@lilyophelia7369]

awww yay thank you so much!! i will try my hardest

[@elainekay1912]

lily kim hihihihi im your fan nowww!! Thank you so much for sharing your ideas!! Fightiiinggg!!! :)

[@lilyophelia7369]

awww thanks love!!! fighting tooooo

[@nishanisrina]

Love this so much!!

[@lilyophelia7369]

thank you !!

[@vivianliu752]

I just realized something! Pay attention to how ViviD is written. The D is capital, representing a different part of the word. And what's left? Vivi. Is this foreshadowing or something...more?

[@gghgh5882]

I'm so shook. wow

[@chaeyeonlee1156]

OH Hyejoo was still yet to be announced back then as well😁

[@karlwendell5416]

Maybe she went to japan to find Hyunjin.

[@sutomuarashi]

Karl Wendell yes

[@-tfu-4113]

I know you made this like 4 years ago, but I noticed something with the 3 mirrors. The only time all three Heejins are looking in the same direction is right before the music video goes black and white again for a few frames, showing Heejin in the bathroom, which I think is acutally really intresting. It could be symbolizing the other girls maybe uniting as one and possibly going against Heejin?? This could be like super out there and I'm just goign insane or something. Anyways. Love the video.

[@katscratxh]

im not even 30 seconds in and im shook on the spelling part/// time to blast off yall

[@jaybheejin9816]

HOLYSHTIAVSUSHSKKAAB OMG ITS BEEN SO LONG I JUST KNOW THAT MY QUEEN HEEJIN MV GOT THIS KIND OF STORIES BLESSS YOUR FELLOW I LOVE U THANK YOU ALL YOUR MAKE REALLY MAKE SENSE

[@ashigosi]

omg so heejin and choerry have a right odd eye so maybe that’s why the two of them can travel to the three worlds of the loonaverss

[@ДаняТаргарян]

how heejin can travel?

[@acryingfan9324]

BRO the 12th member is a spider confirmed

[@bohosoul851]

ACryingFan Where did you hear that?

[@acryingfan9324]

its a theory but i totally forgot about the spider in heejins mv

[@bohosoul851]

I almost got excited because I thought they finally released the 12th member pictures. But I also heard people speculating that the 12th member was a snake.

[@acryingfan9324]

mm tru tru ah idk what to think tbh

[@bohosoul851]

ACryingFan me either. It's so much info and theories floating around that I can't keep up. The struggle is real.

[@fasyaafifah5618]

but yo what if at the end of the 12th girl MV BBC put a glimpse of heejin's VIVID MV and then the continuation will be their debut MV

[@lilyophelia7369]

that's exactly what i think will happen!!

[@ДаняТаргарян]

Heejin and Olivia making a loop, Hyunjin is a cat in Go Won's video, Haseul was in the Chuu's video at the end, Idk how Yeojin and Yves are connected but they are opposite if you will look at the debut of girls and set them oppositely, but i think that Yves is opposite to Vivi since Vivi was in the mv'New', Yeojin is lost, Choerry and a Kim Lip and Jinsoul alone because she is the first who wanted to find all the members and was aware of everything i guess she is maybe a moon in mobius, if still Yves is opposite of Yeojin, Then Choerry is opposite of Vivi and Kim Lip is opposite of JInsoul. Only first girls match, other girls dont.

[@tkcx3]

in my opinion, someone must have been at the door in the end and i think it's the 12th girl. since the loonaverse runs in a loop, heejin was initially just a maid who lives in a boring life until that 12th girl came and helped her escape fron her misery and tells her to explore the loonaverse and find the other loona girls... :0 i suck at explaining but i hope you can understand. xD

[@malenaoliveira2231]

What if the girls start exchanging subunits in a loop???

[@셋둘-d9x]

OH MY FUCKING GOD IF IN THE END OF 12TH GIRL'S MV OR EDEN UNIT'S MV SOMEONE IS KNOCKING ON A DOOR I WILL FREAK

[@kannayoshi9772]

MY EYES HAS BEEN OPENED. Im wokE

[@mobus5242]

What's the name of the soundtrack that you used for this video? I really like it :)

[@lilyophelia7369]

ginseng 'she' and juan rios 'perenne' :)

[@mobus5242]

lily kim Thank you~ :)

[@belluzinha7004]

that makes a lot of sense

[@chaeyeonlee1156]

Yahsss someone compiled itt

[@your-regina]

I don't think we should analyze any Loona MV before KimLip's. It is kinda obvious that BBC came out with this idea more or less during Sonamtime era. You just have to check their videos, the lyrics, the description, the teasers, the images. They were just introducing the members without any story in mind. Actually, when someone started writing weird stuff in the description everyone was like "someone spent too much time on Wattpad lol". So if we are going to analyze stuff we should start where BBC started, obviously they are probably going to find a way to link all the other MVs but we'll see how they do it.

[@lilyophelia7369]

i don't think that is true honestly. you're saying the loona story started with kim lip's mv, but the reason it looks so different to loona 1/3 isn't because it is when they figured out the story, but when the mobius strip flipped. i think each world has a different look because they are in different realms, not bc bbc didn't at first know where they were going with it.

[@iloveyou202]

Woah 4:37 is Olivia when her eyes go red

[@saturnlex]

I love this ❤ and what is the backgrounds music ?

[@lilyophelia7369]

thanks so much !! 💕 I used ginseng 'she' and juan rios 'perenne'

[@saturnlex]

Thank you ♥

[@haydennelson7426]

What if the last members color is white, because isn’t the color white supposed to be all colors combined? And her animal would be a spider relating it back to her making the web like you mentioned in the video :o

[@lilyophelia7369]

yeah! or black? interesting!!

[@cyrusrayray]

lily kim but I barely remember there is a talk about loona oec and say that white and black are referred to oec choerry and jinsoul☹️ i am curious

[@romaeraegan]

Wow... It was all planned from the beginning

[@April_Vicious]

I'm shooookkkkk

[@kuso9757]

wtf is loona unm omg i just clicked on this mv and there’s a bunch of theories im so clueless

[@lilyophelia7369]

loona is a kpop girlgroup with 12 members. they haven't officially debuted yet, because they have a very unique debut process where over the course of 18 months, they introduce each member with their own music video and solo song. the first 5 members formed a subunit called "loona 1/3" which promoted for a while. then the next three members were released, forming the second subunit called "odd eye circle", and they promoted for a while. now we have had the last four members revealed, and their unit name hasn't been established yet because the 12th girl was only just revealed with her music video "egoist". they will form a subunit, and when they finish promoting, loona as a full 12 member group will debut and joined the kpop world! each member has their own colour and animal which represent them, plus a month in which they debut and promote, hence why loona's korean name translates to "girl of the month". this theory video is for the very first member, heejin! the names of the members in order of debut are: 1. heejin 2. hyunjin 3. haseul 4. yeojin 5. vivi 6. kim lip 7. jinsoul 8. choerry 9. yves 10. chuu 11. go won 12. olivia hye the world in which loona exists is called the loonaverse, and there are so many theories because there are many links between music videos which tell the story of how the loonaverse was created. when they debut, their first music video will no doubt answer all of the questions our theories have attempted at!

[@kuso9757]

lily kim okwoahh thanks for the explanation! Loona sounds interesting!

[@kuso9757]

lily kim Oh. And alsoo.. is the ViVi in ViVid a reference to ViVi?

[@lilyophelia7369]

it is! but i am not sure why yet, they don't really have any other connections other than the song name!

[@msriiko8666]

Nah..... looks of thoughts are like too much thought into them. Like the shoes onnthe wall... or her cleaning at the end?

[@mobus5242]

What program do you use to edit videos?

[@lilyophelia7369]

final cut pro X

[@mobus5242]

lily kim thank you!

[@Rik-mf4dr]

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