Heels Are Too Cool In The Modern Era.

[@Luke21-xk7uh]

Nothing worse than the pretending not to care Gen Z or millennial who has to fake being socially distant or awkward so they can come off eccentric. He's even wearing the silly hat because he's just so zanny. He doesn't even care what he wears. He's so different. Yuck.. I agree with some of his points, but my god he comes off so phony. Pretending not to care, isn't gonna protect you from criticism.

[@ienjoygarfield]

It’s a hat brother who made you so mad LOL

[@Luke21-xk7uh]

@@ienjoygarfield I'm a wrestling fan. We're always mad.

[@ienjoygarfield]

@@Luke21-xk7uh fair enough brother, have a good one

[@GlocksAndWock]

@@Luke21-xk7uhweirdo

[@Luke21-xk7uh]

@@GlocksAndWock I'm so weird and quirky. Look at my crazy hat I'm wearing. That's not normal. Lolz Garfield is funny because random.

[@willwnck]

when the final boss called the crowd crackheads and brought up the drug problem in the city was pretty good

[@ienjoygarfield]

@@willwnck that’s the heat we like to see, instead of the same fat jokes over and over

[@Luke21-xk7uh]

@@ienjoygarfield But those were just reused jokes that the rock had already made plenty of times. Not to mention that those promo segments were needlessly 45 minutes long and most of the time only like one or two things were really said. This is the biggest problem with promos right now, especially when it concerns the judgment day. Nothing is really said, they're all just continuing to exist in the same space as each other. Rhea Ripley cuts terrible promos that go nowhere. Liv just ends up saying the same thing over and over again. Dom's booing gimmick has gotten really boring and makes every promo segment he's in pointless. And then when Finn is about to make an actual point, they end the promo way too early.

[@SanFran21]

As an Arizonan who was there at the show. He was not wrong AT ALL😭I was at the mall yesterday and I saw two dudes snorting coke😭

[@romxxii]

The Rock does it when he's dealing with hecklers (e.g. slapping the herpes outta that one fatty) or to quickly reverse the pop he gets because he's the Rock (e.g. telling the crowd they set an attendance record, but then swerves them and says it's the crackhead attendance record).

[@BLACKSTA361]

​@@Luke21-xk7uhThe Rock going over time for 45 Minutes will always be better than anything wwe has to offer anyway

[@gingeta5961]

I think Gunther is an old school heel too, he's got strong style, he's character is menacing, egotistical, can be slick too, can make the crowd boo him, has a style of being better than everybody, especially that promo he did on Damien priest

[@TheOnirayju]

The big problèm with Big G is that he's probably the best wrestler in the Fed rn so we can't hate him 😔

[@Messwithmitchie]

His bill goldburg comment to Bret on raw last month was pretty great 😭

[@Csoleno]

I agree, but the way how they book him to be world champion after losing the Intercontinental champion with a bum, it's AT LEAST embarrassing and anticlimatic.

[@LucasAlves-jr9wq]

*"Be in the streets is a choice...."*

[@ndi7365]

Solo is actually probably one of the best heels we’ve seen in a bit The guy is so frustrating it works well and as you said he’s a true real heel

[@Hollglove2000]

Him and dom are great heels

[@luckasneo2089]

Sorry but making people legit want to change the channel isnt being a good heel. Dom is a great heel because you want to see him lose, Solo... i just want to see him flipping burgers.

[@BigmanDogs]

Smarks hate being worked, so they go insane when a heel like Solo actually works them.

[@easypeasy5219]

Yep

[@Kfields1234]

Solo is def not that

[@Kfields1234]

No

[@Kfields1234]

Solo does not work them id say baran corbin worked them and grayson was and the miz

[@unblockabledrum4134]

Solo sucks bro u bloodline stands d ride anyone that's Samoan in wwe. Like your going increase more to that family tree

[@dropstinsch7993]

Edge pre 2011 retirement was such a FANTASTIC heel, also a good example of what you said

[@dropstinsch7993]

I just realized that i wrote 20111 😅😅😅

[@matthewsengendo6302]

I hated Edge with all my guts when I was around 6 years old

[@OGamelon]

does this mean that tonga loa's the greatest heel ever because i never want to see him in a ring again?

[@ienjoygarfield]

yes

[@tman2741]

Nahh that’s that X-PAC heat, not the JBL heat 😭

[@rgbarrios0331]

💀

[@BChainz1]

You are painfully unfunny

[@vinmulf171]

​@@ienjoygarfield there are good heel and simply just bad wrestler bro

[@dalesabandal9113]

ey shoutout my mans Dom too. I bet he didn’t expect people to boo him out of the building but he’s learned to embrace it and now they be making bank of of their storylines. Good for him and solo

[@gabemyers4516]

I think the 2010’s damaged the perception of heels in the community for a long time

[@GiddyGiddyGosh]

people were cheering Nwo. fans were throwing trash in the ring when they’d lose people have always gravitated towards them and WCW had Goldberg, DDP and sting who were beloveded

[@MisterPeckingOrder]

I think we’re damaged as a society

[@yourfriendlyneighborhoodsm4708]

Nah It was the 90s bruh. NWO are the archetype for cool heels. And Rock and Austin, arguably the two biggest stars in the history of our business were heels that were so cool, they were forced to turn

[@michaelelohiminnocentmadia8128]

No Stone cold steve austin and the attitude era ruined the heel gimmick

[@hungryalmighty7156]

I think one of the main problems with heels today is wwe just doesn’t have any good baby faces with great stories to tell with great heels. Example 2008-2009 Jeff hardy was one of if not the most over baby face of the company at the time. But what makes his stories great we’re the heels he was up against. Jeff hardy vs edge the story of 2 guys who started off as tag wrestlers but 1 went on to become the ultimate opportunist while the other kept failing his opportunities. Jeff hardy vs Matt hardy a story of a jealous older brother costing and hurting his younger brother. Jeff hardy vs cm punk the straight edge guy who doesn’t do drugs constantly making Jeff look bad for being the junkie who failed multiple drugs tests. We need more stories like those.

[@ienjoygarfield]

hit it right on the head man couldn't have said it better myself

[@tj-23]

Saying the wwe doesn’t have any good babyfaces when most of their top stars are babyfaces is hilarious lmao

[@zaymclemore]

@@tj-23 yeah, his missed this one.

[@Evan-i4e]

@@tj-23 They don't; they have people with the personality of paint, whose charter is based on a reddit data scraper to play a charter created by an ai to be as over as possible, who are too corporate and pr safe and create no culture. Modern WWE babyfaces have as much charter as a modern nascar driver has a personality or the diversity of color in cars owned in the us or creativity of modern NBA jerseys. Cody is the only good babyface only because he's an outsider that didn't do the WWE formula and built a charter on retro wrestling, gaming and anime and people complain about it and want him to a tacky sloppy uninspired home lander charter. Believe it or not given the opportunity to only eat as much candy as you want for the rest of time will get old in an hour and you realize how much you like brisket more.

[@tj-23]

@@Evan-i4e yea all that is well and good but the facts are babyfaces are doing just fine in wwe because people genuinely care and like them. The small majority who dislike them will never matter especially if they’re not effecting ticket sales lmao

[@YooThatsMike05]

I think what makes the heels likable is that their heel turns are justified. Drew, Roman, and eventually when Kevin Owens and Randy Orton. No one’s ever just turning heel just for the sake of being bad guys. 2010 Orton was a menace simply for the sake of being a menace. He didn’t have no reason to be a bad guy, he just wanted to be a bad guy. But on the other hand they make babyfaces pamper to the audience way too much. Cody wouldn’t be as bad of a baby face if every single time he comes to the ring he pampers to the crowd and thanks them for having his back and so on. No one wants to hear how thankful you are every time. Also they keep making the babyface an underdog. Like Sami Zayn main evented wrestlemania and beat the longeat reigning IC champion and even when he was Champion HE WAS STILL ACTING LIKE AN UNDERDOG. U cant be an underdog after looking at your accomplishments

[@ienjoygarfield]

right on the head with it mane

[@ArtseyHayton06]

​@@ienjoygarfield I think eyepatch wolf has an excellent video on Roman its pretty good.

[@snakeeyes2551]

That’s why I say you can’t just turn a wrestler face or heel anytime you want, but the turn has to make sense.

[@mathjones5845]

I always love when people make that point about Cody cause yall be so wrong The rock did the same thing Cody did. He just did it cooler lol

[@AdrianM865]

Tbh this all started with The NWO. This is also an era in wrestling where fans don’t like good people because honestly a lot of them ain’t 💩 anyways. They would rather be insulted by someone than be empowered by someone. I see the effort in Solo…but EVERYONE is gonna look boring in your crew when your crew has a walking talking tactical nuke named Jacob Fatu.

[@randomnerd3402]

WWE really should've paired Guerillas of Destiny with Finn cause they play off of him better than they do Solo

[@anonymous_5016]

Pro wrestling is a form of live entertainment that everyone knows is scripted and rehearsed. People that attend wrestling shows want to be entertained rather than just simply be "empowered". If a heel is getting cheered, that doesn't mean that they're doing a poor job. It means that the audience is entertained and they want to see more. As long as the audience is engaged, I don't see a problem. The age of kayfabe has been dead for a long time.

[@AdrianM865]

@@anonymous_5016 so who are we supposed to get behind if the bad guy is getting cheered and the good guy isn’t? Technicos (faces) are supposed to be heroes, but how can anyone stand out if everyone is trying to be a rudo (heels)? That’s why I said what I said. Wrestling fans these days just let anyone talk to them any kind of way and cheer lol.

[@anonymous_5016]

@AdrianM865 The best way a company can solve that is by making their top faces equally entertaining. Unless it's a beloved veteran like Bryan Danielson or Randy Orton, being a generic wholesome fighting champion won't take you very far anymore. I'm not saying they should be antiheroes. They should at least have a personality or gimmick that allows them to stand out and contribute to a well-thought-out storyline. Keeping faces as they are while downgrading heels so they would be on King Corbin's level would do massive damage to the ratings. Viewers today are far less tolerant of content that tries to make you legitimately hate certain aspects of it.

[@AdrianM865]

@@anonymous_5016 you lost me at rating my boy. I don’t give a f**k about that since I’m not getting a check from any company that worries about them.

[@kadharefinley224]

I got to agree on the “edgey heel” part. Just throwing up the middle finger and saying cuss words is so overplayed. Especially when the put more emphasis on the word for example: I don’t give a “SHIT!” if you don’t like me. Also the “you people” is annoying

[@randomnerd3402]

A better form of cursing in promos is Eddie Kingston without needing to abide by TV rules. Him cussing out Gabe Kidd in New Japan is a sight to behold

[@Bernard-vu4vu]

Christian cages heel work the last few years has been steady and amazing

[@pellet1167]

I became an instant fan of Kevin Owens when someone was cutting the "you're sports team sucks" promo, and KO just flat out says that he doesn't care because he doesn't watch sports (or something along those lines, it's been a few years)

[@NVIEK]

CMLL’s Hechicero spoke about this on an interview not too long ago, he pretty much said that times change, and so does the audience. People simply get behind who they resonate or identify with nowadays, regardless of what side they’re on, whether it’s face or heel

[@nicktasteless360]

I agree on the Solo part. The only reason why Roman can be the “babyface” that he is today is because the HEAT Solo was able to bring.

[@nin_tendo6458]

I mean, there's a million heels in history that worked well and did everything you said was bad. Maybe you think those things suck or are bad but they're effective and even The Rock has gotten cheap heat, hell even in his Final Boss run earlier this year he did it. You just need to have charisma. MJF has it, Solo doesn't. I get where you're coming from with the Solo working people thing but it's really a childish argument because you've basically made it impossible for anyone to have a real discussion with you about it. If I say he's just not an interesting character then I'm getting worked, if I say he's boring you'll just say it's on purpose. You've created a circumstance where it's literally impossible for you to be wrong no matter what anyone says. But the reality is there's been many heels in history that got a ton of heat, but people didn't find boring. I mean monster heels are great examples of this. I'm glad you like Solo but he's basically just "Samoan wrestler no.1" MJF can talk, he can work, he's got a great look. Guy's just a born heel. I agree that the you people thing is way over done though.

[@ienjoygarfield]

no i def see where you're coming from with solo and thats my fault. You made a lot of good points man.

[@nin_tendo6458]

@@ienjoygarfield Listen I feel you too. I do think cheap heat is overused and I think overall we're seeing a move to more traditional heel booking under Triple H. I think a lot of this stuff is holdover from Vince's era and as more time goes by and the industry moves on from him we'll see a different type of heel start to emerge. It will take some time though, there's a whole generation of fans that think this is what a heel is.

[@ReFLexX_ii]

SOLO, I LOVE YOU MY TRIBAL CHIEF 🩸🙏 📿

[@ienjoygarfield]

@@ReFLexX_ii YES WE DO MY TRIBAL CHIEF 👆🏼👆🏼👆🏼👆🏼

[@Abridgimation]

Damn, I remember when Roman used to do that dope submission move, wish he kept using that and ditched the Spear and Superman Punch as a heel.

[@ssgjulian1110]

Yeah, it was the guillotine choke, he used to win matches with it. He made Braun Strowman of all people submit with that move.

[@libandualeh7621]

Imagine he dropped the SP and the spear up until he faced Cody in WM40 and brought it back at Summerslam. The pop would have been even more insane than it already was

[@hezekiahthomas837]

"MJF not a bad dude" are you sure about that 😊

[@ienjoygarfield]

he doesn't give me that bad dude aura yk?

[@hezekiahthomas837]

@@ienjoygarfield mjf gives me every wall street trust fund baby. That lives of the "old money" esthetic with a mix of a high school jock compensating for the fact he's not six Foot like the rest of the team

[@GiddyGiddyGosh]

@@hezekiahthomas837he’s a cry baby. Every well known promo he’s done is him sobbing and crying. When he faced Samoa Joe it killed him it exposed him as a midcarder at best

[@hezekiahthomas837]

@@GiddyGiddyGosh him getting injured exposed him as a midcarder🧐🧐

[@GiddyGiddyGosh]

@@hezekiahthomas837 no when Joe was face to face with him and left MJF crying in the corner of the ring 🤣 it looked like men vs boys. Destroyed MJFs credibility

[@SaulClaudio-xw2od]

Are fuckin with us? The rock?! Hes the one who fits in all your categories

[@ienjoygarfield]

@@SaulClaudio-xw2od maybe 👉👈

[@GiddyGiddyGosh]

Rock makes sense though because he’s Hollywood. His whole gimmick was he was too good for wrestling and looks down on everyone in it 🤣 he’s a legend 💪

[@rbikidportland]

the exception to the rule

[@pjvaz1985]

This guy is getting turbo worked into not liking the people he's not supposed to like because he doesn't like people he's not supposed to like.

[@ienjoygarfield]

As long as I’m getting worked brother

[@christhomas1970]

Thank you so much for this bro you’re the only person on the internet I’ve seen to feel the same way about Solo Sikoa. He is what a heel should be! Him and Dominik give me hope for the future of heels lol

[@DonnieDaise]

very true on the looks thing. That's why it was so easy to dislike umaga and snitsky when i was a kid, they looked awful. i never wanted to boo batista when he was a heel cuz he was buff and cool. Same with Theory and Gable today, they are buff and cool i don't want to boo them.

[@GiddyGiddyGosh]

Not true at all bro. You’re forgetting that Randy Orton, Edge, Booker T, Triple H were the biggest heels that era 🤣

[@DonnieDaise]

@@GiddyGiddyGoshyea they were good but i cheered them as a kid cuz like i said they were cool. I actually disliked heels that that were uncool like JBL or Chavo guerrero or great khali or viscera

[@jeromelancashire3278]

4:40 JBL: Not cool, Great mic worker, Dirty Dom: Not Great Mic worker, Solo Sikoa: Bad at both. He needs a Bobby Heenan, a Paul Heyman, or an Almando Aléjandro Estrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrada,

[@pt5728]

0:57 bro says this casually whilst I was cheering for Thanos the entire time😂

[@DanielDeLeon69]

Wrestling Heels Are Too Cool For Modern Wrestling

[@TheLostSheep578]

Ever since I started watching WWE I always gravitated towards the heels. Randy Orton, HHH, Seth Rollins and more. And it isn't just in wrestling to, I always gravitated towards the villans in all kinds of media. They are just, like you mentioned, more interesting and fun then the good guy (face).

[@Darthn0va86]

I clicked on this video thinking I would hear something typical and uninteresting and instead...I agree with everything you said 🤣🤣🤣 100% spot on!!!

[@trinex3332]

I think a good example was Kurt Angle. Kurt Angle was as uncool as you can get. But because 1. He OWN it. And 2. He wrestle better than everyone, he became a guy too cool to be hated.

[@jeromelancashire3278]

11:41 The Rock cut a "You people," promo, swore like a sailor, was incredibly cool and was built like a greek god, he was everything you are criticising wrestlers for doing, WHAT ARE YOU TALKING ABOUT?

[@ienjoygarfield]

deez nutz

[@ienjoygarfield]

also not this run, he did the you people but it was funny and he just merked cody chodes

[@jacetheboss5680]

@@ienjoygarfieldY2J also cut you people promos as well

[@ReeferRumbles]

Came here for this lol

[@jayvoor]

@@ienjoygarfieldrock did multiple you people’s lmao he embodied everything you criticized as much as MJF does but ofc you’re gonna let nostalgia for Dwayne blind you. Hypocritical af proving to be as dumb as the IWC

[@whereisfox]

“MJF, not a bad guy” cool cool. Same heel that threw an alcoholic drink into a kid’s face btw

[@jamisonreynolds9949]

This isn’t really a bad thing, it’s just how wrestling and storytelling is evolving. As others have pointed out, characters are more shades of gray than they have been in the past, and that reflects how we have come to prefer villains that are more ambiguous. While everyone loves a villain, it adds more elements to the story when we can understand and even empathize with why the villain is the way they are.

[@bobbynem3152]

You sound like an IWC smark you're the "I understand the villain" type

[@jamisonreynolds9949]

@@bobbynem3152 In modern storytelling, many villains are being written to have an actual, legitimate motive to be doing what they do. Saying you don’t at least somewhat understand their perspective means you’re just not paying attention

[@djsav688]

@@jamisonreynolds9949that’s bull sh1t. Antagonist should always be flawed.

[@jamisonreynolds9949]

@@djsav688 Read what I said again and you’ll see that I never said anything about being flawed. First, antagonists aren’t always villains. Second, understanding the villain’s motivations to some level doesn’t mean they aren’t flawed. We all understand why Voldemort is the way he is (if you paid attention to the lore) and we also know Voldemort is flawed. We understand what made Darth Vader the way he is, and Vader is EXTREMELY flawed.

[@uriblaketheriddimprotege]

8:22 Rick Rude would like to have a word

[@mdjhjisan]

Randy savage

[@Bossman22211]

Great video. People need to go watch Triple H in the year 2000. Probably the greatest heel I ever saw. He made Rock, Foley and Jericho look like money!

[@FlowzArtTv]

The “you people” worked with Daniel Brian 👌🏾

[@HeyPaladin]

YOU-FUCKING-MARK™

[@mister54336.]

By MJF

[@bhhdty2272]

Seeing Solo Sikoa love is great, everything u said here is so accurate, people literally explain how good his heel work is through there criticisms 😂😂. Solo 100% does this on purpose, watch his Indie work his moveset is insane similarly to Jacob ( not as crazy) but he dumbed it down for this role ( don’t just say it’s because of his weight he can still do most of the moves and does them occasionally. This man made 20k people chant “ F*** you” at him by saying 2 words 😭😭😭

[@alancotter4825]

We’re in a different world today than before. Wrestling is just an indictment on the current state of pop culture, and in today’s culture the most interesting characters aren’t good nor bad, they are grey. If you have two characters who have both good and bad characteristics, then finding stories to explore these different paths and possibilities is fresher then heel vs face again and again and again.

[@kyleway8513]

"No one was sitting around during Infinity War going 'msn I love Thanos'" Its me I am no one

[@almightytowerdiveking4636]

This has been a thing for decades. The top babyfaces always start off as heels that just happened to get over 💯💯

[@NuclearWintr]

Solo is a traditional heel.

[@underthependulum3484]

Roman started most of his catchphrases, including the spear chant, when he was a baby face.

[@TopJazzCat]

Heels being cool is nothing new. It goes back to the Horsemen, but they were kinda half and half because they actually got heat by doing evil stuff. There was Razor Ramon, HBK and Diesel in the early 90s when they were supposed to be heels. But it really kicked off with the NWO, Austin and the Rock in the mid to late 90s. Traditional heels were heels because they were underhanded weasels and cheaters. That's what made fans despise them. Even to the point of assaulting them. And they would cheat so much that it made you angry, begin sympathizing with the babyface and what him to go off on the heel. The problems were the fans and the lack of rules. The fans started to continuously cheer the heels and boo the faces, so they started to blur the lines. And the promotions stopped having their referees enforce the rules. With little to no rules to break, the heels cheating meant nothing.

[@UltimateHibz]

This is why i loved the Cm punk and drew feud 2 anti-heros

[@kadalsaurus6232]

actually i agree with thanos during infinity war, i root for him

[@KishanAnrude]

You explained this perfectly, u might be my new favourite channel, classic beats and open minded aware commentary

[@Iamthegroblin]

Tanga loa is so good dude. He is the best heel!!!

[@asrarsheikh64]

Most liked superstar are actually like in grey shade ( Drew McIntyre, OTC Roman) Drew is heel he thinks he is the good guy Roman is heel he says he is still the same Tribal chief heel

[@powersurge_beast]

Love this casual "Homie started cooking and is having a laugh about it" vibe of this video

[@charlieramondt]

Dominik is my tribal chief

[@infiniteinfamy]

Spot on… I’ve been saying Solo might be one of the only few true heels in wrestling

[@ancrathjustice8516]

Chad Gable's heel turn has been pretty good imo. It's all within storyline for teh most part

[@frodo3556]

I stopped watching Wrestling about 10 years ago and I never thought I'd come back just recently to people actually liking Roman Reigns 💀💀

[@MatheusB.SdeFreitas-sn3pj]

Christian is so Underated with his '' Father" gimmick if he end Edge came back to WWE they would be so over Right now.

[@Halloween74]

nothing is wrong with heels today they do a perfect job of making the audience hate them Roman Reigns and Christian Cage was the best heels imo

[@ashalexander9167]

The rock literally called the crowd crackheads, cursed more than anybody and played a god in Black Adam how is that different? There isn't one verifiably correct way for a heel to exist. Get booed, draw money, wrestle safe. Everything else is just dressing.

[@kingfredo1161]

God I loved this video. You verbalized everything I been thinking forever. I think Dom Mysterio is the greatest heel in the game rn because all of his heat is organic. He makes you hate everything about him, not to mention he sucks at wrestling. I HATE cheap heat by just insulting the audience

[@ienjoygarfield]

you da goat mane

[@Br3nzz]

off topic but i love your background with the school orange juice carton and the random pops on the floor and the banana plush

[@georgeparasol6797]

GARFIELDEIANS RISE 🗣️🗣️🗣️🗣️🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥

[@ienjoygarfield]

YESSSIRRRRRR

[@Bzzy225]

I liked Randy Orton as a kid so I was destined to like heels lol

[@Acedegenerate07]

Its Cuz babyfaces aren't Cool anymore. All of them basically say the same thing every episode. We was blessed with babyfaces like Cena, Batista, Undertaker, Stone cold growing up.

[@life0093]

John Cena is the reason why bad guys get cheered.

[@carnagerulez312]

​@@life0093he was literally going against the greatest heel of the mid to late 2000s, no one is booing Edge.

[@life0093]

@@carnagerulez312 Cena was getting booed/mixed reactions since 2005. When Edge cashed in on him, he got cheered. Just because wwe edits reactions on their network doesn’t mean people weren’t sick of Cena.

[@michaelelohiminnocentmadia8128]

Stone cold was a heel that took out his aggression out on his boss. He was not a natural baby face hes more of a natural anti hero

[@Acedegenerate07]

@@michaelelohiminnocentmadia8128 Thats my thing Babyfaces back then had edginess to them. Best example of that in the current era would be CM Punk.

[@ralphdesbordes6798]

Bro's casually playing the Heart pt 4 by Kendrick in the background 😅

[@blackestyang7528]

gripping about modern heels being too cool when everyone from the NWO, Shawn Michaels, Chris Jericho, Eddie Guerrero, and many others were running around thanks for broadcasting you're one of THOSE guys

[@Bagbwe]

Christian cage, Dominik mysterio,Solo,The Rock are good examples in my opinion

[@us2299]

i haven't watched wrestling in 5 years or so, now that i think about it, only time i've watched wrestling in the past years is when rock came back and shitted on cody . And christian cage heel work compilations on youtube. LOL , so you're right.

[@D1ckCh33se42]

That De Lander impression is so hilarious

[@emmanuelforeman5339]

Even as a kid I always loved the bad guy more because of how much freedom they had and btw during infinity war and endgame I was actually rooting for Thanos

[@koji6745]

Jokes on you I was sat exclusively for Thanos

[@akatsuki5504]

I know a great many people who sat there and loved Thanos, myself included! I lowkey rooted for him lmao. And in the end, Thanos was RIGHT!

[@erikbrown7209]

It was pretty iconic when R Truth did the whole "you people made me do this" thing though but I agree most people can't do it well

[@moses0686]

With Roman there's also the fact that he still has cancer it's just in remission. That guy will never be hated. In general with heels, in wwe you aren't allowed to get heat which triggers hate.

[@KRob10]

I agree with mostly everything you said...in the late 90s is when the heels started to become cool with NWO, Stone Cold and The Rock. The Rock did insult Philly and if not mistaken Arkansas.

[@ultraexcalibur1728]

Roddy Piper and Triple H are two of the Greatest Heels of All Time and they'd probably be considered cool as well in this Era. I think the lines between Kayfabe and Reality have been crossed so much and Social Media has just become so prevalent that it's really impossible for most Heels not to be cool without being a terrible person (Logan Paul) or a terrible wrestler (Tanga Loa)

[@WillyD]

La knight’s hype doesn’t work as a baby face. Love your video and your take.

[@eddiestefon7041]

MJF denying the Civil War happened and pulling his promos from 4chan... wouldn't say he's very cool these days. 2018-2022? sure!

[@GiddyGiddyGosh]

Adam Cole story killed him. It was bad before but after that it ruined him 🤣

[@galaxy6251]

I agree with everything except the physique thing. That we should be cheering for the people who look better and dislike the people who just physically look worse thats just kind of a shitty thing to do. A problem we already have in society about people naturally liking or disliking people just for the way they look, its just kinda fucked up, and i like when entertainment media doesnt perpetuate that grim aspect of society

[@isleofredemption]

We need another Million Dollar Man. Hell, we need another Bobby Heenan.

[@DreKnowWell]

I was cheering for thanos 😂 thanos was extremely over

[@friendsinfaithpod]

My guy the Rock did exactly the opposite what you said he came out he obliterated the crowds yes he murdered cody on the mic but he did the same shit to the crowd called people redneck idiots And other stuff MJF may nit be your cup of tea but he's actually great When it comes to heels it's cheap heat it's typical it's old but it works and when heels are in great physique makes you want to hate them more cause some other faces like Otis are relatable

[@juliusjohnson8046]

I enjoyed that you talked about Solo actually being an effective heel. It's so tiring hearing the IWC complain about him when he's literally doing the job he's supposed to be doing: making the most hardcore of fans hate him. I do think it's ok for heels to have interesting movesets. In the least, a badass finish helps make their victories feel even more deflating, and then the Babyface kickouts more powerful. I also think heels having Greek god physiques can still work as long as the guy is a dick, because then you're mad that this POS has everything. But overall, I agree and think more heels need to actually try to be heels and not worry about being "cool."

[@vampchannel]

I agree with everything's except the parts about how their bodies look. The way they look is the last thing on my mind if they're out doing villainous things.

[@Hellwolf36]

I think the problem is its a combination of the smarks, some of the wrestlers doing the heel work coupled in with modern times that has caused heels to not be the same way they used to. Fans now cheer for the effort and coolness, even though back in the territory days, some of them would be reviled or attacked by drunks with bladed weapons. If you also decide to pull off a reviled heel move, odds are you would be cancelled by the outrage mob, like with what happened to Juice Robinson when he did the quarters segment.

[@sonic5993]

I think Austin and the NWO really ruined the classic heel/face dynamic because from that point onwards, it became cool to boo the face and cheer the heel. Faces were seen as dorks and geeks while heels were cool and badass.

[@asaadz4241]

Dominik is a great heel. Nothing likeable about him. Fun to see him get beat up and not afraid to look like a fool

[@WolfeOCoin]

I think Austin Theory is a great modern-classic heel, knows how to sell, move set isn't flashy, not trash on the mic but still enough to make you mad

[@perezhernan32]

The rock was forced into that situation though because he wanted to come back a face and it wasn’t recieved well at all

[@mr.nobody3066]

Chieftancy, the word you're looking for is chieftaincy. And it's great hearing some praise for Solo, he's such a pr*ck he's hilarious 😂

[@zaymclemore]

i would even say in the modern era.... heels been to cool since the 90s with NWO and The Rock. Before this, some heels were cool but they were kept to a minimal like Macho King and Razor Ramon but 1996 afterwards, the cool heel is the top heel. Which is the reason why some people dont like Gunther, theyre not used to seeing a non cool about his business heel anymore.

[@SShaBazzz]

That's completely not true. Many people wanted Thanos to win. Next, i actually want Solo to be the WWE champion.

[@cainvarner]

this is why edge was always the best heel

[@MisterPeckingOrder]

This is the funniest thing to me, because when I was younger all we *wanted* was cooler heels. I swear not a single face had a chance of getting over between 2006-2016 unless your name rhymed with Hey it’s Syrio.

[@WolfieWRLD]

I love solo Solkia due the fact his promos are funny & genuine asf. 😂😂🔥💯

[@zeeroks2k]

The Miz is the best heel we ever had and I will stand by it

[@anemoium1]

I do agree

[@Awaifn]

"You people made me a babyface! You people are good looking! Your sports team is awesome, despite what shortcomings they might have. This city is beautiful, and smells nice, and has a low rate of crime. THANK YOU!" 👍🏻

[@nativewarmask9861]

I said this in another comment, the attitude error worked because it was a reflection of that time, the 90s were very much all about counterculture, those sorts of things, and that's why the attitude are worked, the modern day wrestling broadcast is still a reflection of the time, people don't want that kind of bland hill work anymore, people don't want to see out of shape, wrestlers, portrait, as heels, people don't want people that don't have charisma portrait as heels, the reason that that stuff worked in the past is because wrestling companies were still trying to push the idea that wrestling was real, so people while they knew that it wasn't, they still went along with certain things. I'm genuinely glad that people have to actually think, they have to make their own decisions, there is a reason why pain from Naruto or light from death note are such compelling characters, because you have to ask yourself do their motives make sense, do I understand the things that they're saying, it's not Bad guy, bad, and that's essentially what you want, you want people to go back to bad guy, bad, and you want wrestling to go back to the 1980s. There's a certain group of wrestling fan that wants to disrespect those that have what they call a Internet opinion, I am someone who grew up watching during the attitude era, I was a fan of WCW, and I still hold these opinions, because, people began to actually make you think, and by the way you might want to take a look at the rocks heal work Back in 98 and 99, AAA and Michael's. He work in 97, what you're talking about has been a concept and wrestling for almost 30 years. Again, wrestling is a reflection of the social climate that we are in, people don't like the Internet community because the Internet community has a very strong voice in this regard, and the companies are actually listening, the casual fan doesn't like it I guess, but as someone who hates casuals in most things, I could care less about them anyway, because they are not going to be the core viewership at the end of the day, and obviously ratings are showing something very different, ratings are showing that people do like how wrestling is being portrayed. Now, there is a reason that the attitude era and the era of the New World order came into being, a more realistic presentation came into being, because the cartoon shit in the 80s was no longer working, this is why Rocky Maya via became the rock.

[@PrayasRahangdale]

Loved the video man. 💛

[@Bl4DE103]

Been saying man, especially MJF, fact that people like him its evidence that he failed as a heel

[@jeromelancashire3278]

10:37 What if a heel wrestler came out an a cut a "You People," promo but it's "You people rock," with a hint of sarcasm.