🛩️ Heewing T2 - Detailed Tour + First Impressions

[@gizfpv]

For those that wanted to know, the dimensions of the battery compartment (between nose and the 1st spar) are roughly 8cm wide, 6.5cm deep and 18cm long. To hit CG you ideally want a battery that weighs around 600 - 700g

[@David-gk8yg]

It only makes sense that this would be a VTOL as it has much more volume for batteries than the T1. The MR30 connector in the tail just confirms it.

[@swissfreek]

And the way the boom is, you could just slap in a boom with a motor preinstalled.

[@sr-prod]

Looks pretty cool! The fact that it can be disassembled easily is just fantastic for taking it on a hike

[@gizfpv]

I timed it, you can fully dismantle the whole aircraft in 20 seconds. Takes roughly same amount of time to put it back together :)

[@RajBains-q7n]

Straight on it! I was looking at this model and hoping it was going to go VTOL on us! Can't wait for the videos to come! Keep up the good work :)

[@ChristianLapka]

The Fan needs to suck the Air out of the nose, which is pushing in through the front of the nose. Then you have the perfect airflow.

[@AndrewNewton]

Very impressive, some big design ideas. Would like to see a stripped out simple version available as well, but they are unlikely to be considering that at the moment.

[@gizfpv]

I asked them this morning if there will be a basic kit version at some point, they say they're considering it, so you may get your wish :)

[@upperechelon3456]

Yes... Please bring out a kit version also.😊

[@AerialWaviator]

Great overview. The removable nose is a nifty idea. I would like to see a bit of gap on sides, or top to allow air to exit at the junction. This could be easily me made an optional feature by including a second set of screw hole locations on the wood attachment. (if the gap lip was beveled vs. at right angle, ti would make the gap less noticeable and help keeps grass, soil from entering on the bottom) With an elongated gap on both sides, it wouldn't need to be wide, just 1-2mm would allow lots of air to escape, eliminating the need for the fan. The flaps are drag flaps, they're not going to increase lift that much, except when in ground effect. Will be helpful in slowing and steepening approaches to land. This style of flaps can be used speed limiting in dives. This could be a nice feature if mountain, or cliff surfing. To me the rudder seems more complicated than it needs to be. (extra custom pieces, and added weight) It appears rudder is thick enough to include a servo internal, like was done with ailerons on the wings. This would reduce drag from the air gap as well. It's so nice to see a manufacture taking the time to gather feedback from the community before releasing a new plane. It looks to be a good design that is likely to become popular.

[@gizfpv]

I actually did my first flight with the T2 yesterday, and found the flaps increased lift a lot. Was actually surprised at how long the aircraft would glide for with motors off/flaps down. It glided better than some gliders I've owned lol. Yeah I initially felt like there needed to be a air exhaust somewhere on the nose (think I said it in the video somewhere) however actually, with the fan now installed, it seems to work great. Have left the aircraft powered on on the bench for 15-20 minutes on multiple occasions and not once had a vtx overheat warning. Also had no issues in flight, fan kept vtx perfectly cool without a air exhaust.

[@AerialWaviator]

@@gizfpv Nothing better than real world flight test data! ♥😎👍 Thanks for the update.

[@gammagonad1657]

So you said in the wings there is potential extra wiring for GPS or whatever, but you said that some of the wiring is not included. Are there extra pins in the wing connectors, with no leads coming off, or are there leads in the wings but not the fuselage, or the other way around? Best first look video so far that I have seen.

[@erlandfpv]

At the first, im curious... and now after watch this, im amaze, but a little bit confusing about the Rudder, separate from main tail like that,... the flaps idea its good, the 6s setup its awesome i guess, let me think about the price...

[@MFToes]

never got my first ranger off the ground, contact heewing about programming they said i was out of warranty, now paperweight

[@ShawnG_FPV]

Hell yeah buddy awesome review, cannot wait to see your set up and flight footage!

[@rodeopilot7495]

that price is insane ,heewing won't see my money

[@FpvBerget]

Pretty sure they will be fine ;)

[@robertfpv7733]

@@FpvBergetpriced way too high Heewing is no eflite

[@grumpyoldnerd8727]

​@@robertfpv7733tbh, HeeWing quality always was a lot ahead of everything that came from Horizon Hobbycide...

[@gizfpv]

Haha, dunno if I've just been unlucky, but every Eflite aircraft I've ever owned has been terrible lol

[@grumpyoldnerd8727]

@@gizfpv EFlite is cheap stuff in an expensive package

[@dabit4840]

I crashed my T1 with the nose against a steel pole at ~80km/h last week . The crash was hard enough to shift the actual 18650 cells in their wrapping.... When that happens you know it is bad. However, damage was three tears in the fuselage that were easily repaired with a bit of glue, a broken (3dprinted) battery plate and a destroyed camera in the nose. That was all. I was deeply impressed; something like an ARWing would have been reduced to a litter bag full of foam pieces in a similar crash. This new T2 is a bit larger (so hopefully more stable in wind than the T1), has a rudder, has flaps. Really interested in this plane if it retains most of the agility and durability of the T1. Any idea when Heewing plans to have the kit version in store?

[@gizfpv]

Damm, must have been a pretty significant crash to damage the battery like that lol. The T1 is a surprisingly durable little aircraft though for sure, have certainly given mine some punishment over the years and it's kept going lol. I've flown the T2 now and can confirm it fly's very nice. I've asked Heewing if they have plans to sell a kit version, they say they're considering it

[@hoagietime1]

Really cool design tweak over the t1. I'm having a hard time seeing who this is for, not enough cargo room for mapping gear. It would be a inexpensive commercial drone if it had a bit more room. A drop-in pan tilt option would be a nice addition. I wish they put the design resources into another small plane, maybe a sub250 gram t1

[@sullytrny]

FC 101 - you want the FC imu&gyro placement to be cg centered inline with the thrust line. not always possible but should be the kept in mind. In regards to your pdb placement... Thanks

[@JohnCuppi]

I see a lot price complaints but as someone who is not a fixed wing expert, I don't really get it. $339 US shipped for that big T2 doesn't seem bad at all, considering the gray T1 ranger PNP Pro is $169.00. I guess am ignorant about what other options there are, so what would people recommend over this at this size/class? It looks like it has a lot of interesting features, maybe all of that drove up the price?

[@WinstonSmith1984]

The tail boom idea is good but they should've added more pins to the tail boom connector for LEDs, tail camera, tail receiver, or whatever. Also for the wings: more than 4 extra pins would've been nice. The split flaps should've been made wider so that they are in the full air flow of the propellors: that'll reduce the landing speed a lot more. Shorter ailerons will still be very effective. A removable tail wheel and a springy main gear would be nice. I hope they take all good ideas and develop another T1 version of the same or similar size as the original.

[@offaxisfpv]

quite the machine right there. wow. I wonder how much better it flies and see its flight line of sight and fpv

[@offaxisfpv]

YUP, i will wait for the VTOL version forsure!!

[@gizfpv]

I flew it for the first time yesterday, it flies really nice! Will be a video soon :)

[@CDRaff]

With the flaps and very hefty landing gear mounting I could see this being turned into a very cool STOL bush plane. edit: also 20k mah... that's going to be days of flight.

[@gizfpv]

I can actually believe that. I flew the T2 for the first time yesterday, and with flaps fully deployed it becomes really floaty!

[@DavidTaghehchian]

Love the fan. I've been putting them on my models for a long time now along with more heat sinks when possible. But i think you are right about the exhaust conflicting with the fan. What i would do is just put the fan in front of the VTx blowing are from the front opening onto it.

[@maxun1]

There's no conflict with the fan the fan is for suction no for blowing.

[@DavidTaghehchian]

@@maxun1 that's fair. It would be interesting to see if the fan can keep a hot VTX like O3 or Vista cool enough on their highest setting in the summer time if it is configured for exhausting rather than injecting air straight into the VTx.

[@maxun1]

@@DavidTaghehchian you will see in you goggles the message unable to record. I got my varied in one of my planes t1 and is working ok.

[@gizfpv]

So I've installed the fan and vtx now, and have also flown the T2. Actually I was wrong in my assumption, the fan doesn't suck air, it does indeed blow air directly onto the VTX. Despite the lack of a air exhaust though, the setup seems to work great. Had no overheat warnings from the VTX at all, either on the ground or in flight

[@StuntDoubleFPV]

I like this.... I always fancied the T1 but it was too small for me but this is spot on

[@pepermintpilot1694]

Thanks Giz. I did notice the XT60 type conector in the tail and that was a give away. I'm already making my own T2 type aircraft (VTOL) only its so large its probably a T4🙂. Massive T-motor U13 motors and 12S, 10P. Going to weigh over 15KG MTOW!!!

[@Videolinquency]

The best news in my book is the rudder, it means I can use a landing gear for the maiden and not have to hand launch the plane until it has been flight proven and trimmed. Hand launched maidens is the only thing I truly hate in this hobby, they are the perfect recipe for reinventing the cartwheel. BTW, when the whole fin moves, I think it's called a 'full flying rudder'. Not sure I love the detachable boom, though. This is still a rather small plane by most standards, it shouldn't need disassembly for transport. In my opinion, the boom connections just add two unnecessary failure points. But I can absolutely live with that. Thanks for unveiling this long awaited gem!

[@seanyfpv]

I agree! I love that the rudder is a thing now. Reminds me of the elevator of the aeroscout

[@gizfpv]

Oh I love the detachable boom. There's no way the T2 would fit in my tiny European car if I couldn't take it apart. The fact it all comes apart without tools too is great IMO. Yeah I share your pain on hand launched maidens, I hate them. I maidened the T2 yesterday and I was so nervous. Thankfully it launched fine, but I was well aware that if the launched failed, with all the weight behind it, it probably wouldn't have ended well lol

[@Videolinquency]

OK I drive a shooting brake, so I'll keep quiet. But could we ask you to mention two details later? One is the noise level - hard to judge via KZbin, critical in many of the casual locations VTOL will open. The other is the tail skid. Landing gear fans will want to know what is back there instead of a tail wheel.@@gizfpv

[@gizfpv]

@@Videolinquency The T2 is actually remarkably quiet. I'd say it's no louder than the T1. When I flew it 50m over my head I couldn't hear it. On the end of the tail boom on the underside there's a bulging bit, clearly designed to act as a tail skid

[@Videolinquency]

Great news!@@gizfpv

[@northernfpv9562]

That’s insane. For that price I thought it was a VTOL.

[@michaelbrisky3961]

Yeah - wonder if this platform is a good candidate for VTOL configuration?

[@seanyfpv]

YES me too, excited for the vtol version to come out

[@gizfpv]

I reckon it'll be great as a VTOL. The Omphobby ZMO Pro is a similar size VTOL that works great

[@pilotmiami1]

bravo.thenks.go Ahead

[@MSR.]

Curious to check out Shelby’s tomorrow after work 🧐

[@gizfpv]

I'm curious to know how many LED's he's gonna strap on his! Lol

[@TheLostSquadron]

Very informative. I have a T1 and was interested up until the price. The reason I'll probably pass on this is that I have a Reptile Dragon V2 that has similar dimensions. Some of the portability features are nice, but that's too much for what you get.

[@MisterDonkey]

Excited to get mine, thanks for the walkthrough. Flight video soon? 🤞

[@gizfpv]

Yup, should be very soon, I did the first flight yesterday :)

[@BabaYagaFPV]

I’d pay almost double if it was VTOL, but I don’t know if I got room for another regular 1200. But I will admit it’s a cool plane, especially the nose cone and wing linkage.

[@WinstonSmith1984]

That fan is unnecessary with the air vents next to the camera. I installed my Caddx Vista directly behind the camera in the T1 and it get's enough cooling as is and I run it at 700mw. I made sure that it doesn't sit flat so that air flows below it too. The only exception is if you leave it on while not flying. For that reason I installed a switch.

[@gizfpv]

Yeah it probably isn't necessary, but it's still a nice feature to have. Means you can leave the aircraft powered on as long as you want without having to worry about the VTX. Was especially useful during the build and programming process :)

[@sashgorokhov]

I did not see anything that could worth $300 price mark UPD watched until the tail part. So indeed Heewing has proven to be quite creative with connectors and this is really great -- more new ideas, innovations and improvements the better. 1) Split flap is interesting idea, though i'd say its usefullness is questionable. 2) Rotating rudder is something special. I wonder how it would affect tunning and feel of the aircraft. 3) Connector dissasembly of tail is cool. This model is full of interesting ideas though personally, as an advanced fixed wing flyer i dont find them as appealing for that price tag.

[@gizfpv]

I flew the T2 for the first time yesterday just after this video went live, and I tested the flaps. Actually found they worked really well. You get a lot more lift as soon as they're deployed, and actually found the T2 glided better than some gliders I've owned in the past. Was genuinely surprised by that

[@sashgorokhov]

@@gizfpv what was the AUW ?

[@GhostRyderFPV]

_strokes beard..._ This looks vaguely familiar, can't put my finger on it... Oh well, gonna go fly my T-1 and ponder on it.

[@defendermods9420]

Price super high. Shame did like it.

[@jimmytheriot8978]

Anymore videos coming! Waiting on mine to be shipped, talking to heewing 3 days ago and they said they redone the mold and are trying new electronics before shipping

[@gizfpv]

Yeah man, am working on a build tutorial video as we speak, which will hopefully be out soon. Just hope Heewing doesn't go redesigning too much else the video won't be relevant lol

[@henry3618]

Can you tell me the width of the fuselage? Will there be enough space for 3x 21700 cells side by side?

[@zhongzhonggao7271]

I contacted the manufacturer, the maximum size is 6S4P 21700, and the maximum take-off weight is 2.5kg.

[@gizfpv]

I've added a pinned comment under this video showing the dimensions of the battery compartment

[@maxun1]

Lol for that price I buy an Avios Albatross. Now the fan is not to blow air into the nose is to blow air out of the nose creating a vacuum effect, taking air in from the 2 front holes.

[@gizfpv]

That's what I suspected myself, however I've now installed the fan and vtx, and the fan is blowing air into the nose, not sucking it out. It works absolutely great though. Not what I was expecting but can't complain lol

[@maxun1]

@@gizfpv yes is working good now in the ground, but when ram air start going in at 60mph the fan will become a plug and burn . The vtx will be in a nice air fryer.

[@loeschc49707]

Just got mines today. However disappointed that the tail is not working. I have the ssrvo wires connected correctly... however I think there is a connection problem in the boom... grrrrrr hopefully BuddyRC takes care of the issue.

[@DustanT]

Run the same motor on my AR pro with 6s and 8x6 prop and works great.

[@JustFPV-net]

well done, mate ... my video is still in the editor

[@ShawnG_FPV]

Would you please hurry up lol, eager to see your video as well!

[@MisterDonkey]

I hope there is some flight footage!

[@JustFPV-net]

@@MisterDonkey yt says they need 2h to finish

[@JustFPV-net]

@@ShawnG_FPV oh, that’s nice to hear- thank you

[@gizfpv]

Keen to see your video bud! I flew my T2 yesterday for first time and it went great, although the SD card failed and I got no DVR. Boooo lol

[@FlyByWireC]

OMG，amazing😍🤩🤩🤩，but I will wait for the VTOL version

[@henry3618]

When can we expect Part 2 then? :)

[@MCsCreations]

Wow... What an amazing airplane, dude! 😮 The price is a bit too high indeed... But it looks crazily awesome! Now imagine a vtol version!!! 😮 Anyway, stay safe there with your family! 🖖😊

[@gizfpv]

I'm excited for the VTOL variant when it becomes available :D

[@lililililililili8667]

would be cool if they released their own fpv cam servo gimbal nosecone that was plug and play

[@gizfpv]

Yeah that would be cool. I wonder if they'll be releasing alternative nose cones. One that could hold a Gopro would be cool too

[@gunjafpv]

I love my T1, fly it as much as a I can, and this looks a great larger version! Just a "silly" question (and applies to the T1 too), where would you mount a GoPro/Action, etc cam on this?

[@stuweFPV]

6s 20'000mAh??? that battery weights about 3kg yet the max TOW Heewing recommends is 2.5kg.. how does that work?

[@njgvisuals]

li-ion

[@gizfpv]

Yeah I'm not sure what that's about, does seem excessive and likely to be way to heavy. On that note though, I flew the T2 for the first time yesterday and had to put 2 batteries in the nose to hit CG (combined weight was 660g). She defo needs a fair bit of weight up front, crazy

[@stuweFPV]

@@gizfpv 2 batteries seem more realistic and kinda makes sense. big difference in 6s 2Ah vs 20Ah to fit it all in and get the CG right. I bet Heewing themself never flew that bird with 20Ah and makes me wonder why they would make such a claim. Still a interesting plane and I hope they make a kit version. good review and I look forward to your flight review.

[@cch201992]

Ask them about micro planes like sub 500mm wingspan I know smaller planes have a harder time in the wind but maybe that's the challenge they can solve I would like small stuff I can carry to place usually doing a hike first.

[@gizfpv]

I don't think they have any plans to bring out any smaller aircraft any time soon, but the T1 fits on a backpack quite easily? I know because I've done it myself lol

[@BrainDeadEngineering]

We need great VTOLS ! Its the future ! Since your buddies with Heewing..tell them to get working on a tilt wing VTOL asap ! Its the way ! 🤪

[@dude770725]

the VTOL option will make the ZMO PRO VTOL obsolete! It's now the same size and probably better thought out

[@gizfpv]

Totally agree with this!

[@Stubbsyfpv]

Oooh nice Giz. Looks good. Be intresting to see what sort of size packs work. So who’s going to knife edge and stall turn it then lol

[@gizfpv]

Well 2 bits of information for you. Firstly I have size 12 feet, and secondly I can fit my foot inside the fuselage lol. Gives you a idea how much space there is for a battery. On the maiden yesterday I used x2 3300 4s lipos in parallel, which weighed around 660g. That's how much weight I needed to hit CG

[@Stubbsyfpv]

@@gizfpv bleeding hell. Didn’t realise it was that big.

[@mauritz1774]

What is the camera size?

[@dude770725]

the front cooling makes less sense. the thing is, where air is lead in, it has to come out somehwere to have any effect. so the two front inlets AND a fan trying to blow inside makes no sense at all!

[@gizfpv]

I agree, however, I've now installed the FPV gear and the fan, and have flown the aircraft, and actually the setup worked perfectly. VTX stayed cool whole flight with no issues

[@dronesluveco386]

Good plane as I see buy I prefer the T1 : D

[@dronepilot260rc]

Nice video! I won’t be buying one but nice to see how it does 🎉

[@Caroline_Tyler]

Ohhhh! A Hee Wing T-1 enlarged....that's really got my interest! Will they be selling just the foam and hardware without the electronics?

[@gizfpv]

I've asked them if they'll be doing a kit version only at some point, they say they're considering it

[@aviphysics]

What 21700 pack arrangements actually fit and balance?

[@AerialWaviator]

If 21700 cells fit under the spars, then there would be many possibilities. Some dimensions on space between the spar and floor, and cockpit width would be useful data points.

[@gizfpv]

I've added a pinned comment to this video showing the battery compartment dimensions

[@travelrideandfly8355]

Hello. Would this take of at a 3kg weight (6s, 11A pack) or is it too much for it to handle ?

[@gizfpv]

I think that would be pushing the limit. Might be doable but it would be a struggle to get into the air

[@travelrideandfly8355]

@@gizfpv thanks !

[@travelrideandfly8355]

@@gizfpv thanks ! Well at 2.5 kg it takes off easily (6s standard set-up 8000mAh battery) , but they advertise on the website that it can take up to 20.000 mAh ...that would put it close to 4kg i think so i am confused . I also feel it too heavy at 3 kg and I am afraid to try. :D

[@aviphysics]

Did I actually ship with Sunnysky motors?

[@gizfpv]

Mine did yes, although the final version will have different motors

[@matejbludsky8410]

I think the key is to wait, the price will certainly go down i don’t see how they could compete with other companies like zohd, atomrc,… i think $220 maybe less would be more realistic for pnp, shame I’m sure it’s great.. apart from that weird marketing :D that was just silly

[@gizfpv]

I agree, the price is a bit higher than we'd all like, however I don't think Zohd or Atomrc currently sell anything that's comparable to the T2. At least in terms of quality. Zohd especially don't make anything with comparable quality. Atomrc stuff is generally very good IMO, but I think Heewing has them beat atm

[@devilsreject78]

I have my DJI video transmitter in the nose of my T1 Ranger and it not only doesn't even come close to overheating .....when it's sitting on the ground and it gets up to 60° so soon as I launch it it drops down to 39 38 degrees Celsius T1 NOSE has plenty of airflow to keep your video transmitter cool in a T1 SO A T2 will have no problem keeping your video transmitter cool in the nose how they have it

[@scottyh72]

Except for the bulkhead in this version that doesn't allow the air to move back through the fuselage. There is absolutely no where for the hot air to go in this version.

[@devilsreject78]

​​@@scottyh72I actually didn't think about that part I mean It could be easily rectified by cutting some ports in the bulkhead or porting it out someplace else but yeah you're right I didn't even think about that

[@imman1342]

that cool man i ike to make one and use but it cost a lot to buy and make them.

[@pokerchannel6991]

will there be vtol mod? either as production or as ppl mod? will there be vtol? That is the future of all plane. vtol. So, I were wonder if this iwll be vtol

[@sr-prod]

Yes, watch the video to the very end and he talks about the « secret » feature for installing a tail motor

[@dronepilot260rc]

VTOL isn’t really that exciting 😅

[@sr-prod]

@@dronepilot260rc well for some people it is It has its uses in tight spaces that I quite like personally

[@IanF-FPV]

Yeah I like this plane overall. I really think 1200-1250mm is the sweet spot for a larger fpv plane without it having to ship from China in an oversized box causing the price of shipping to be as much as the plane itself. I have a lot of cons though. 1 Too high a price. I can get a Reptile Tech Dragon v2 pnp for less. 2 Why 6s setup?? Most planes this size run on 4s. I can’t really find too many 6s Lion packs. Will have to build one. 3 No bay for an HD camera like a Hero 11 etc. 4 Just feels like a bigger t1 without too many new features. Pros…1 Seems to disassemble quickly for easy storage or carrying to a remote field. 2 Foam seems to be strong. 3 Separate bays for the fpv gear, gps, and rx with enough pin outs in the wing joints. Overall I’ll pass on this model. My Dragon v2 pretty much does what this plane is doing for a lower overall price.

[@gizfpv]

For me the biggest pro is the quick and easy disassembly. I typically avoid aircraft of this size or larger, because they're just a pain to fit in my car. Usually needs tools to take apart and put back together and its just hassle. This thing though, comes apart in 20 seconds! Takes same amount of time to put back together. I love that I was looking the the nose section last night and thinking about Gopro's actually. I reckon you'd get a Gopro in the nose section quite easily, it's big enough. Would obviously need to cut some foam from the front for the lens, but it would be doable. I wonder if Heewing will bring out a modified nose at some point as a optional extra? Or if someone will just design a 3d printed one

[@IanF-FPV]

@@gizfpv That’s great to know. Now just convince Heewing to sell it for less.

[@justforfun4710]

Is it just me, or does 6s seem overkill for a cruiser? I really prefer kits 😑. Great design though!

[@gizfpv]

Well I flew my T2 yesterday on 4s and it seemed to have plenty of power, so can confirm 6s isn't needed. Maybe the higher voltage just helps with efficiency? I've asked Heewing about a kit version, they say they're looking into it

[@EnglishTurbines]

I can remember buying a Mini Talon for £30....Price is rediculous, sorry....🤔😳😳😮🙄🇬🇧

[@robertfpv7733]

I think even the pre order price of $288 is high I would price this at $180-200 the current price of $330 plus tax where I live would bring it closer to $350usd and I am just not seeing a plane that is worth that much here

[@k1ortia]

Great review mate, but almost £300 they must be pissed!. No thank you!

[@jimmytheriot8978]

Can't wait for mine to arrive, I think it was worth the pre-order price of 288$ 😊

[@mauritz1774]

Ketzer der Neuzeit

[@maxun1]

Totally A No Go, you don’t get this you don’t get that, you get the foam, Hewing this is a BiG Noooooooo.

[@michaelbryce7609]

中国的飞机又好又便宜，中国制造加油🎉🎉🎉

[@snakes301271]

price is a fecking joke.

[@matejbludsky8410]

That’s actually such a disappointment really, so expensive! There are better options out there for way less. The rudder is definitely going to be a big problem, bad design. Combined with the terrible marketing we might be witnessing the end of heewing pretty soon.

[@reinhardherden516]

Just out of interest: what do you fly or which planes do you find good?

[@FpvBerget]

Mind telling which other plane thats way less and can carry 20.000mah? I need one.

[@MisterDonkey]

o, ok.

[@scottyh72]

@@FpvBerget Nobody NEEDS to carry 20ah. If you make the plane more efficient instead of a flying boat, you need much less capacity.

[@FpvBerget]

@@scottyh72 "you need mutch less capacity" Who are u to tell people what they need and not?