Henry Big Boy X! What's The Point?

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@charlesharper7292
@charlesharper7292 8 ай бұрын
Why are you pulling the carbine off your shoulder to run the lever?
@erichall7253
@erichall7253 6 ай бұрын
Bingo. I own 10 lever guns of various calibers and brands, along with the “tactical” other side of my collection. It seems our presenter has little experience with lever guns? At worst, some of the Rossis with extremely stiff, crude actions and slick metal butt plates may need to be pulled off the shoulder. Otherwise, you are correct. I wonder what his business relationship is with Henry. I own two Henrys and had to send them both back for quality control issues, one five times until they provided a full warranty replacement. I enjoy these rifles/carbines now, and Henry customer service is very responsive and supportive. One is a Big Boy, 357 All-Weather, the other a Big Boy Steel 44 magnum, the one I had all the quality control issues with. Even the brand new warranty replacement they sent me, locked up so bad right out of the box that I couldn’t even clear it. They sent me another, and that one runs sweet. Just the voice of my experience for what it is worth.
@ignataquin8073
@ignataquin8073 6 ай бұрын
Yeah, I was wondering the same thing
@davidgruver8153
@davidgruver8153 5 ай бұрын
Looks like saving the brass to the area he has layed out. So he doesn’t have to chase down all of it.
@Pappy7064
@Pappy7064 5 ай бұрын
That's the first thing that came to my mind as well. Seems very odd.
@charlesharper7292
@charlesharper7292 5 ай бұрын
@@Pappy7064 I have two Henry lever guns. Both are smooth enough that I cycle the lever, gun on my shoulder and stay on target.
@chronovore3726
@chronovore3726 9 ай бұрын
Lever guns are fun. In rifle form, .357 magnum offers reasonable power and relatively gentle recoil. It's fine for deer at iron-sight distances. It also pairs well with a revolver. Sure, fun or novelty might be a factor for some of us but in more restrictive states, lever guns might be the best option.
@GreggErwin
@GreggErwin 2 ай бұрын
@@chronovore3726 I like my x model 45-70. It's awesome
@heystarfish100
@heystarfish100 9 ай бұрын
Who here grew up watching “The Rifleman”? That show was amazing. 😎
@christoFlair777
@christoFlair777 2 ай бұрын
Me
@darionbarr1994
@darionbarr1994 3 ай бұрын
20 seconds in, Un-shouldering the rifle to run the lever-tells me everything I need to know 🤦‍♂️🤦‍♂️
@TheZombieburner
@TheZombieburner Ай бұрын
Man don't know how to run a levergun, clearly. My first centerfire was, and is, a Henry in 45 colt. I never take it off the shoulder to run the lever, it stays welded!
@joshdoddadbod
@joshdoddadbod 3 күн бұрын
Yup.
@AniwayasSong
@AniwayasSong 9 ай бұрын
I've had a lever action in .44 magnum paired with my revolver chambered in the same. Both have performed w/o complaint or failure in the decades I've taken them in the field, and I'd trust each with my life. Just because something (Or it's 'Action/Platform') is old, doesn't mean it isn't effective.
@andrewspringer3565
@andrewspringer3565 9 ай бұрын
Learn to shoot that gun!
@robnutile4338
@robnutile4338 9 ай бұрын
I have more fun at the range with my big boy than any other gun I own. Brings out my inner cowboy.
@EricDaMAJ
@EricDaMAJ 9 ай бұрын
As a man matures he grows to have respect for revolvers and lever guns. Yes, revolvers and lever guns can be used for self defense. But that doesn't mean a new aficionado will retire the AR, AK or auto pistol. It just means fun is expanded at the range and while hunting. It makes a great truck gun, as it's not "pretty" like Henry's other offerings.
@alanrawson-wg8io
@alanrawson-wg8io 6 ай бұрын
You really need to run the gun from your shoulder. Press it to the shoulder with your support hand and cycle the action. With handgun calibers you should be able to keep your cheek weld, with 3030 or 4570 you may need to raise your head but the stock stays on the shoulder. Just like a pump shotgun you chamber a fresh round immediately upon firing. Like a shotgun you top up at any opportunity. Just practice. My grandfather taught me this when I was 12 so I’m pretty sure you can do it too. People are so used to semi automatic guns that they pay no attention to using older weapons.
@loudfastfood2625
@loudfastfood2625 9 ай бұрын
I have this same rifle in .44 mag. I added Ranger Point Precision’s butt stock, handguard, optic rail, muzzle break and extra round quivers. Pricey but it takes the gun to a whole other level and it actually weighs less now. Love this thing
@oceantri
@oceantri 8 ай бұрын
Nice Lever Gun! If you want to shoot it quicker keep it shouldered and aimed when you lever the action.
@srsatlaf4730
@srsatlaf4730 9 ай бұрын
I got a Henry Big Boy X in .44 mag / .44 spcl as a companion to my S&W 629. This led to the purchase of a new Ruger made model Marlin 1895 SBL in 45-70 Govt. Now I have a hankering for something in .360 Buckhammer!
@paulavery2561
@paulavery2561 5 ай бұрын
You need to watch cowboy/ cowgirl competitions. They will show you how to run that Henry.
@sabre7
@sabre7 9 ай бұрын
Nice to see when he’s on the bench shooting he doesn’t have to take the rifle to his mid section to work the lever to reload 😮
@khester7397
@khester7397 9 ай бұрын
Ought to be able to cycle a round without breaking his cheek-weld. Though, to be fair, the rifle looked to be rough running.
@camcom76
@camcom76 9 ай бұрын
I think he needs to go to the gym more often.
@davidhoward9722
@davidhoward9722 5 ай бұрын
Yeah bringing the rifle to his stomach looked really dumb.
@SmoknJaysGarage
@SmoknJaysGarage 4 ай бұрын
@khester7397 I can't speak for this gun specifically, but I have 5 model Xs and they have very smooth actions.
@JoshMarine81-ze8jy
@JoshMarine81-ze8jy 12 күн бұрын
😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
@Painterrap
@Painterrap 9 ай бұрын
Just keep in mind that if you run a suppressor you will essentially be limited to using the side gate for loading!! Obviously you can still use the tube based magazine loader, you will just have to spin the suppressor off every time you want to use it.
@DennRN
@DennRN 9 ай бұрын
I have one in 38/357, threw a trilug on it and a suppressor wrap so I can always easily use the tube to load.
@joeeliyah2090
@joeeliyah2090 6 ай бұрын
I have a Brass .44 Mag Bigboy 20". Why do you keep putting the rifle down to your hip, or down to the side when cambering a new round? Unless you have some sort of injury.... Stay on target bro.
@verylweimer1588
@verylweimer1588 3 ай бұрын
Sorry, I had to stop watching you come off your shoulder to lever the rifle.
@mcb2757
@mcb2757 9 ай бұрын
lever actions are no less practical than a pump shotgun in terms of defense imo. Actually they're probably better since they're easier to top off (assuming they have a king's gate).
@martingibson1225
@martingibson1225 Ай бұрын
"What's the point?" There are several actually. 1. In states where semi-auto rifles are being banned, or trying to be, the lever gun is a good option because it is fast than a bolt action when you STOP taking it off of your shoulder to chamber another round. 2. There are a wide variety of cartridges available for lever guns from .22 to 45-70 and maybe others I am unaware of. 3. Hunting Rifle??? It won't replace a long range shooting rifle cartridge in open country like a .270, 7mm mag, etc. However, In NH where deer shots are typically less than 100 yards....many a deer have been taken with a 30-30 from a lever gun. 4. self defense: not a semi-auto, but a pistol cartridge ,357, .44 mag out of a carbine length barrel is a good home defense round that will stop effectively, more than a 9mm out of a pistol. Not as fast for repeat shots, but if you STOP taking the rifle off of your shoulder the second round comes pretty quickly.
@Geno-xj9vt
@Geno-xj9vt 24 күн бұрын
There are lever guns in long cartridges. I have a Browning BLR pre-81 in .308. Savage 99, Henry Long Ranger with rotary magazines in several calibers. I am sure I missed some. I agree wholeheartedly with your post, as in the woods here on western Wisconsin I often take shots at less than 100 yards myself. I almost exclusively use a lever .357 or .30-30. ❤ your post.
@cryptoranger4901
@cryptoranger4901 3 ай бұрын
The rear sight was loose on my Big Boy X 45 Colt too. I don't know why Henry doesnt torque them down at the factory, but that was the only fault I found. I love mine.
@tp-mh2ji
@tp-mh2ji 6 ай бұрын
Choice... Buy or Don't Buy
@tp-mh2ji
@tp-mh2ji Ай бұрын
I bought one!
@larryh3267
@larryh3267 9 ай бұрын
I have the Henry 45/70 all weather by Henry I love it and yes none of the fancy inlays and brass butt
@Firebirb427
@Firebirb427 2 ай бұрын
Lever actions are still relevant because they are the fastest cycling manual loading rifle you can get. They can cycle ammo faster than a bolt action. Furthermore, they can do something semi autos cannot; Cycle ammo regardless of pressure. Revolvers and lever actions chambered in 357 magnum are among some of the most versatile firearms out there. Because they can cycle ammo regardless of power and pressure, they has a epic range of power they can put out from super-low-pressure 38 special to glowing red hot Underwood 357 cartridges that could fell most things that walk on legs in north America. One of these Henry rifles chambered in 357 would be a amazingly versatile firearm. Also, this Henry 'Big Boy' has my favorite kind of sights. Flat notch sights with fiber optic parts in the irons. which would make the gun viable for night time shooting if you attach a flash light on it via the Mlok system. and the threading that allows flash hiders and suppressors? Dude, this is one of the coolest and most versatile Lever actions out there. also a matter of personal preference. i prefer polymer furniture to wood for reasons of weathering and looks. The list of merits with this gun are in fact quite lengthy. I would not think twice about buying one. in fact, i want one quite badly.
@kscoran
@kscoran 25 күн бұрын
Lever actions are so fun I have a Henry .22 octagon barrel , .410 Henry X , 45-70 all weather pick rail and a marlin Ruger made 1894 SBL 357! Such fun guns !
@kevingary7018
@kevingary7018 6 күн бұрын
I'm debating on purchasing a Henry X model chambered in 360 buckhammer for hunting deer in Maryland. The ballistics on the 360 straight wall cartridge are suppose to be similar to the 30-30. The fiber optic iron sights and plastic furniture on the X model definitely have a more practical appeal for today's hunter. Thanks for the video.
@andrewhirsch6472
@andrewhirsch6472 4 ай бұрын
That might be an excellent choice for hunting on the Olympic Peninsula in Washington state where I live. The weather during hunting season tends to be very soggy, warping the wooden stocks of long guns generally. And in the thick forest cover here, most shots are within 100 yards anyway.
@leskrug9266
@leskrug9266 9 ай бұрын
So here's a question for you to ask. Henry, why don't they make a lever action in 45 Long Colt like other manufacturers have? That shoots 45 long coat, 454 casull, 460 Smith& Wesson Magnum? Or is that not a viable option configuration?
@joeellis2692
@joeellis2692 3 ай бұрын
Henry makes a 45 colt. I have one in the X model.
@leskrug9266
@leskrug9266 3 ай бұрын
@@joeellis2692 well I get they make a 45 long colt, but will it shoot 454 Casull and 460 Smith& Wesson Magnum
@Bvegaaaa
@Bvegaaaa 3 ай бұрын
@@leskrug9266 it sounds like other manufactures are meeting your needs, I fail to see how this is Henry’s fault?
@leskrug9266
@leskrug9266 3 ай бұрын
@@Bvegaaaa I'm not saying it's Henry's fault. I'm just asking why they don't make it so it shoots all three calibers out of the same gun like Smith& Wesson's revolver does Taurus judges shoot the 45 long Colton the 454 console and 410 shotguns ruger's Alaska and'll shoot to 45 on Colton 454 console but not the 460! Just wondering why they don't so you have more versatility in one gun. Even though I buy a gun for it specific caliber. I have a 460 Smith& Wesson Magnum with 10 and 1/2-in barrel. I've never shot anything but the 460. I've never shot a 45 long cold out of it and I've never shot a 454 console out of it.
@SeventyRS
@SeventyRS 3 ай бұрын
​@@leskrug9266 because it's a rifle with a completely different operating system than a revolver. Does anyone make a lever action rifle that shoots all of those?
@NunchucksHabit
@NunchucksHabit 5 күн бұрын
Kind of a beginner question here, if anyone's still watching this old video - when I get my first lever action (45-70), I'd like to break it in & get used to the cocking/side-loading/cycling - but I won't get to go to the range very often, so if I buy enough 45-70 snap-caps to load it fully, should they cycle ok? I know the ejection is meant only for a shell casing not an intact cartridge, so would that be enough to jam up during eject? If I pull the trigger on every snap cap, won't they wear out? It's more of the muscle memory of loading/re-loading/cycling ejects I'm hoping to get used to.
@gregely3672
@gregely3672 2 ай бұрын
got one in 45 Colt to match my side arm...great gun in Northern Cal Sierra mountains.......smooth, tough, reliable
@4catsnow
@4catsnow Ай бұрын
Part of Henry's "not for everyone, but something for everyone" market philosophy ....combine that with some very good customer service, as a back up...and it's easy to see their share of the overall market...Aside from that ,, somebody that knows how work that thing could make that effective in ANY situation...from plinking, to target shooting, to home defense..
@schoolboymafia
@schoolboymafia 3 ай бұрын
I can’t get over how he is shooting it, why on earth is he doing that? He literally halving his fire rate and ruining any chance of a quick follow up shot.
@RedProg
@RedProg 9 ай бұрын
Love my old Marlins. 30-30 and 32-40
@darrellfilyaw7255
@darrellfilyaw7255 5 ай бұрын
Have you ever considered keeping the stock against the shoulder and working the action just asking
@michaelkersey2954
@michaelkersey2954 14 күн бұрын
Love the cowboy guns. Hexagon barrels mostly..
@jacobmoore7650
@jacobmoore7650 5 ай бұрын
Those are amazing suppressor hosts because there is no port pop. I have tried the 44mag version with the Rugged Obsidian and the DA Primal; they both sounded like a paintball gun. Using a gun mounted camera, you can hear the hammer drop, then a doink sound from the shot, and bullet impact.
@resolute123
@resolute123 9 ай бұрын
Like the pistol grip style, just wish they have one for 20" barrel.
@MrPhillba
@MrPhillba 8 ай бұрын
Really dope to see someone on youtube going what used to be Panteo! Best range around this area by far
@Toactwithoutthinking
@Toactwithoutthinking 6 ай бұрын
The action may be outdated in comparison to modern semi automatics but the ammo is just as modern and deadly as a semi auto's.
@davidhoward9722
@davidhoward9722 5 ай бұрын
You sure have a weird way of shooting it. Why are you bringing the gun down to your stomach after shooting. Keep it in your shoulder when cycling it.
@brianfreland9065
@brianfreland9065 3 ай бұрын
throw some ranger point tacticle furniture on it and you got one modern and functiional lever action while also still looking super badass
@mkshffr4936
@mkshffr4936 4 ай бұрын
The original fighting rifle. Can be topped up while still in battery. Functions just fine from gallery loads up to bear loads. Very flexible weapons.
@MrT13
@MrT13 3 ай бұрын
Quiet. That’s the point. Or quieter if you feel like actually using it for something.
@josephstringer204
@josephstringer204 4 ай бұрын
You run a lever action like a girl the way you’re bringing it to your hip before you cycle
@bryantphil5577
@bryantphil5577 9 ай бұрын
Oops cant have that in illinois, its an assault weapon
@srsatlaf4730
@srsatlaf4730 9 ай бұрын
Can't have an assault stick or assault slingshot there either.
@Thomas-yw9eo
@Thomas-yw9eo 9 ай бұрын
Pretty soon they'll ban knives like in England. Then Illinois residents will only be allowed to plastic or paper knives.​@@srsatlaf4730
@jaymefrancis5668
@jaymefrancis5668 3 ай бұрын
@@bryantphil5577 doesn’t apply to lever or pump guns. You can own it.
@DRFrankenflyer
@DRFrankenflyer Ай бұрын
Are you filming this at a range name Panteao. Looks very familiar.
@charlesharper7292
@charlesharper7292 5 ай бұрын
What's it for? In brush country where I live, It's great for deer, pig, the occasional swamp puppy if he gets too close for comfort.😂
@AUT1234567
@AUT1234567 6 ай бұрын
I love my Henry Big Boy cause its fun. Also its not easy to own semi automatic rifles in my country, so lever action rifles are great for us europeans.
@DwFritz23
@DwFritz23 29 күн бұрын
Ranger Point Precision made lever-action rifles sexy!
@bradrook3919
@bradrook3919 Ай бұрын
It isn't a Daisy spring loaded Red Rider BB gun. No need to take it off your shoulder while cycling the lever...
@Cucurú-c9v
@Cucurú-c9v 2 ай бұрын
That brass tube screams I don't belong here. Why don't they at least make it the same color as the rifle?
@richardkev3077
@richardkev3077 2 ай бұрын
Lever actions make great self-defense tools where semi-autos are illegal.
@davidgruver8153
@davidgruver8153 5 ай бұрын
Excellent review. Thank you
@davidhoward9722
@davidhoward9722 5 ай бұрын
Also keep one case slightly out to ease loading
@zachnelson7221
@zachnelson7221 Ай бұрын
I'll take a lever action any day. All I use.
@DomenicDecocca
@DomenicDecocca 4 ай бұрын
If you don’t appreciate lever actions are you really a gun enthusiast ?
@nielgregory108
@nielgregory108 2 ай бұрын
If you knew ANYTHING about marketing, you wouldn't have to ask the question.
@hippiehillape
@hippiehillape Ай бұрын
That dude in John Vick!
@sgtjarhead99
@sgtjarhead99 5 ай бұрын
LOL. Everything's got to be "tacticool" these days. To each his own.
@mwilkinson5474
@mwilkinson5474 19 күн бұрын
All of the “ upgrades “ are totally unnecessary. Prove me wrong. Country folks, farm and ranch people, will outshoot most of the purchasers of these new offerings. He’ll, most of the geezers , in the SASS would spank you.
@bivsgunshow8448
@bivsgunshow8448 9 ай бұрын
Chisel Machining makes an excellent aluminum Skelton stock and fore end grip.
@adamb2619
@adamb2619 5 ай бұрын
The fore grip is so nice!
@JASmith-oy8db
@JASmith-oy8db 3 ай бұрын
Dang dude, you've got that hammer cocked from the beginning of the video onward as you handle the rifle in your shop. Consider demonstrating better gun safety for your KZbin viewers.
@davidcallaham60
@davidcallaham60 5 ай бұрын
Love my Henry's
@Dav-S5658
@Dav-S5658 4 ай бұрын
14" LOP with no way to adjust it in 2024 is a fail. That's especially true for smaller shooters. It's one reason why you see people pull the gun off their shoulder to work the action. In many videos of people shooting these guns, you can clearly see that the gun does not fit the shooter properly. Shooting a rifle that does not fit is like running a marathon in shoes that are 2 sizes too big. Some people have never shot a properly fitted gun, and don't even know. Ruger put a very simple set of stacked spacers on their PC 9. That's a cheap and easy way to make plastic stocks usable. For the price of modern guns, I want the ability to fit the rifle, or I'm not buying it.
@ChargerusPrime
@ChargerusPrime Ай бұрын
The fact you unshoulder the rifle to reload it means your ass aint got no business tellin us about a damn lever gun. Lmfao
@No-1.In.Particular
@No-1.In.Particular 9 ай бұрын
If you want people to actually consider them for home defense, it needs the following; a chambering option for 9x19, a side loading gate & affordable price (under $1000).
@mkshffr4936
@mkshffr4936 4 ай бұрын
Why would you want an inferior cartridge? Henry levers now have a side gate option in most calibers.
@williamcaruso4203
@williamcaruso4203 Ай бұрын
Never uncheck a lever lol
@jessejudkins3246
@jessejudkins3246 6 ай бұрын
You don't know how to handle one.
@ritesideofthefence5857
@ritesideofthefence5857 23 күн бұрын
What’s the point of a Henry X model big boy in pistol caliber? It’s really not that complicated, they are just loads of fun and my of my x models have been 100 reliable. You can read below all the explanations of caliber comparisons, but in the end mine are just plain fun. Both the .357 and the 45 colt are can slaying plastic dinosaur killing machines. So really what’s the point in this video. To each his own my friend.
@All.Fathers
@All.Fathers 4 ай бұрын
Man he is American as they come. He does not look like a kgb agent trying to fit in at all.
@Evil_Teddy
@Evil_Teddy 5 ай бұрын
Stop asking why and just say thank you.
@roybrewer3301
@roybrewer3301 2 ай бұрын
They’ll just let anyone make a video, huh? 🤦‍♂️
@Slick64
@Slick64 4 ай бұрын
If not in rifle round, wry heavy for pistol round.
@PitbullSoco
@PitbullSoco Ай бұрын
Because a pistol round out of a rifle has much greater velocity, less recoil and better accuracy. What's the issue
@Slick64
@Slick64 Ай бұрын
@@PitbullSoco less effective on target. Why use heavier than pistol with same round. Maybe for smaller people.
@XrayMike17plus1
@XrayMike17plus1 9 ай бұрын
Hope these guys aren't quiety cheering AWB's and thinking they'll supplant them.
@paradiddledoo6854
@paradiddledoo6854 Ай бұрын
Bro you missed the whole point
@MichaelHayes-uj9od
@MichaelHayes-uj9od 2 ай бұрын
Looks like a bb Gun
@Thomas-yw9eo
@Thomas-yw9eo 9 ай бұрын
Isn't that the T-Rex rifle in Jurassic Park?
@jsedbe0624
@jsedbe0624 9 ай бұрын
Nope. Bianchi SPAS-12.
@lucasblanchard47
@lucasblanchard47 9 ай бұрын
@@jsedbe0624 I think they meant Chris Pratt’s rifle, which is a Marlin all weather SBL in .45-70 I believe. They even advertise it as a gun for hunting dinosaurs on their website haha!
@jsedbe0624
@jsedbe0624 9 ай бұрын
You are correct. I was thinking of the first movie with the velociraptors. Good call!
@lucasblanchard47
@lucasblanchard47 9 ай бұрын
@@jsedbe0624 oh yes that is a SPAS in the first movie. And the bald hunter guy in 2 or 3 has some kind of massive elephant rifle.
@akbychoice
@akbychoice 3 ай бұрын
@@jsedbe0624 do you mean Franchi?
@vincentkline7656
@vincentkline7656 6 ай бұрын
I am 64. A veteran. An NRA Life Member and big hunter. I think that making a lever action with “tactical” features is silly! You might as well put those features on a muzzleloader. I have flintlocks, bolt actions, pumps, lever actions, and semi autos. Because of my service I don’t have an M-14 or M-16 type. However I do have a mini-30. All firearms are great to have fun with. But if you ever need one for personal defense, and I hope you don’t, use the best thing you can get. A used AR is very inexpensive. 30 rounds and it works! I love Revolvers. I used them in competition for years. In my nightstand? A Glock 41. 14 Federal 230 HST’s and a TR1 attached. The right tool for the job. Choose wisely. Good video. That young lady will show you how to keep a lever mounted when you use (run) it! Thanks! Vince
@Carnyx_1
@Carnyx_1 Ай бұрын
I always get a good laugh at these, "...it and osolete rifle" videos. First, the weapon's capabilities are only as good as the operator. Second, I guarrentee iot will kill you just as fast as a non-obsolete firearm (probably faster in some instances). Third, the METT-TC should dictate the equipment. In a SHTF or survival situation (particulalry for civilians) if you're using you weapon more than carrying it you're not goign to have a lot to worry about for very long anyway. So this would protect you and feed your brood just fine. Obsolete!?!? OK, Chancelor.
@ComeonmenID10T
@ComeonmenID10T Ай бұрын
its a dark tactical scary looking Gun ....... its needs to be banned, its to scary looking !
@bobyjones3905
@bobyjones3905 2 ай бұрын
I’ve never been interested in a tactical lever action
@onerider808
@onerider808 5 ай бұрын
There’s no point. They just saw a western as kids and thought it would be cool to own one. This is America and you can still do that…for the moment.
@nunyabeezwax1413
@nunyabeezwax1413 9 ай бұрын
There are way better lever guns than Henry’s .
@kevinlindahl677
@kevinlindahl677 4 ай бұрын
Yep, but Henry's are so fun for today's money. Mine now looks like an old mountainmans gun with leather straps and shiny brass. LOVE IT!
@draconian6692
@draconian6692 9 ай бұрын
Shoulda been an inch shorter. No real reason to have a 17 vs a 16 inch bbl
@woodrowcall3158
@woodrowcall3158 7 ай бұрын
Uses the same magazine tube as the 16” barrel version, while adding extra space to machine threads.
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