Hellcat Motor WON'T Fit in new Charger, Mazda Making 2-Rotor for U.S. + More! Weekly Update

[@jerseyboy_greaser1152]

Dodge Engineer: “The Hellcat motor will not fit in the new Charger.” Rich Appalachian Hillbilly: “Challenge accepted.”

[@SarahnTuned]

As someone who stuffed a 4 Cam V8 Tundra engine into a '74 Celica, I call BS a hellcat engine won't fit in that land yacht of a car.

[@MattMaranMotoring]

I mean anything is possible with mods, but you know it’s not that simple for OEMs. An OEM quality fit that retains all crash structures, maintains a hood design that passes pedestrian impact standards, has OEM quality cooling, and doing all that without compromising other parts of the car, that’s a lot harder and that could be why it won’t fit *properly*. That’s my interpretation. Same reason Subaru/Toyota couldn’t fit the WRX motor in the BRZ from an OEM quality standpoint, even though people made it fit in the aftermarket.

[@williamlathan6932]

@@SarahnTuned true, but they want to make $$$

[@antoinelee-thomas9536]

Independent shops can do anything and everything better than the automakers. Wasn't Dodge the one who also said they couldn't put a manual transmission in the LX platform Chargers, but independent shops made it work with no problem. Dodge just has excuses out of the wazoo these days.

[@AmateurSuperFan]

i hope you're joking but if not that must be the most hilarious undrivable awesome sounding Celica of all time

[@steveske8575]

​Check it out. She has a KZbin channel with the build. It's not quite done yet.

[@goatmonkey2112]

About 2 months from now, there will be somebody with a youtube video. "We put a Hellcat engine in the new Charger".

[@aurorajones8481]

2:52 He is not resigning he got FIRED from the board. The real deal is he rushed the car to market and over half of all production are BRICKS!. Over half the inventory produced all up to now has and are bricked with no anticipated fix. Thats why and that's why this could bankrupt the company. We shall see.

[@TontoGoldstein81]

“Artsy.” Like the “artist” who took a shit on a canvas and sold it. Seems about right.

[@RamCruiserOverland]

It’s like Jaguar saw what BMW tried to do with the XM and decided to chase whatever market that is.

[@benoitallard5516]

During a recent livestream, you mentioned the poor performance of these videos leading to some reconsideration of this type of content. Quite frankly, this weekly video is likely my most anticipated video of the week. All the weekly automotive news wrapped into a neat half hour video with nice visuals. Keep up the great work Matt!

[@AP383BB]

The fact that they know it doesn't, means there was atleast some experimenting going on. I know the engineers told Car and Driver that the 5.7 does fit.

[@illumination357]

@@AP383BB 🎯

[@rjdavis7503]

Always liked the Rotary engine. If Mazda pulls this off. This will be my first hybrid purchase.

[@abetts1971s1]

"00" is the projected sales

[@bradenmchenry995]

Jaguar CCO “Jaguar has no desire to please everyone” the amount of conceit and pretentiousness in that statement is astounding for a dying car brand. Especially when you are standing in front of that hideous thing

[@eddieg6436]

My good friend’s dad is an executive with Beverly Hills Rolls Royce. I’ve asked him if the brand would ever consider a model below the Ghost, with a lower price point. His response was that “common” people wouldn’t appreciate the model, and most likely not take care of the vehicle, thereby “soiling” the brand’s image. ……That’s up there in pretentiousness too I think!! 🤷🏼‍♂️😂

[@thatoneotherotherguy]

It seems like a reasonable statement for a limited production exclusive brand to say. If Ferrari, Maybach, Rolls Royce, or Bentley said the same, I wouldn’t be surprised. It is not a blue collar Everyman brand. They’re open about that.

[@fortheloveofnoise]

😅

[@BRIANBOBCHAPMAN]

NICE Weekly Update Matt Maran Motoring

[@marcnobel3938]

Wunderbar! Finally a brand new Episode of the Matt Maran Friday Night Car News Show - with some fresh Topics again. Wishing everybody here a great day and a fantastic weekend ahead. Enjoy the News and your free time!

[@decepticonstinger3150]

YEE

[@RANDsreviews]

I thought it was Wednesday until your news video popped up. For a second I thought you changed it to possibly two news videos a week until I checked out the date and today is Friday. Thanks Matt for the news! Have a good weekend.

[@KarlBuckley-bw3vc]

I've seen miatas with v8's jammed into them, I'm calling BS on a Charger not accommodating a Hellcat motor. Maybe the supercharger won't fit, but they didn't rule out a 392.

[@thatoneotherotherguy]

I think the straight six itself rules out the 6.4L. More power and torque.

[@im_an_alvani]

I hope the new 2-rotor isn't more rotary vaporware and ends up seeing the light of day. Great roundup as always!

[@jonathancolbert6666]

They say the Hellcat engine won’t fit, they didn’t the 5.7 or 6.4 though…..

[@carboydorifutoparty3976]

What doesn't make more sense with that is the fact that it's overall larger than the old Gen so how does it not????

[@jonathancolbert6666]

Yeah, I’m not really buying it. Maybe it’s a challenge to builders. People have put Hellcats in 350Zs, Miatas, Prius but it won’t fit in the new Charger??? We’ll see about that.

[@imnotusingmyrealname4566]

The supercharger makes the engine very tall so it probably just doesn't fit under the hood. The Hemis are pushrod engines so they are very compact. The naturally aspirated ones very likely fit.

[@Aggie4life77]

Why a Hellcat engine when the V6 is faster?

[@anydaynow01]

Yeah I heard it was designed with enough space under the hood so a Hemi crate engine will bolt in, probably needs a new hood (intake manifold) and headers (turbo exhaust manifold) to actually fit. Wouldn't be surprised if the EPA was behind them saying it's not a direct bolt in.

[@thatoneotherotherguy]

My favorite news story for the week: 2025 Miata pricing announced. Base Sport model went up $300. 1%. Still under $30k before destination, still easy to get invoice pricing on. The affordable roadster continues staying very affordable. Is the Mini Cooper vert and perhaps 2-door Wrangler the only other convertible available under $40,000 in the US at this point?

[@nintendoatarikiller]

I bet the 2JZ will fit in the new charger. It'll be like Tokyo Drift when they put the RB26 in the Mustang

[@stanggang4610]

Save the sedan

[@christopherf9573]

Although I’m not particularly enthusiastic about the new direction Jag is pursuing, I’m somewhat honored that they chose Miami, my hometown, to unveil the concept.

[@imnotusingmyrealname4566]

The hoods for cars get lower and lower for aerodynamics and SUV and truck front ends become more and more like brick walls. It's absurd.

[@andycalifornia426]

Rotaries are coming back -- SO F---ING WHAT? It's only going to be a range extender. You will not be able to experience the power delivery of a rotary, you will not be able to hear the tone change as it revs up as you press the accelerator. You will probably not be able to hear the engine at all. And you sure as hell will not get any exhaust sound to speak of. So does it make a difference whether that range extender is a rotary or anything else???

[@dannyphamous]

Great reporting!

[@phild8602]

Not do fast Matt, they arent going to tell you that at a press event. They have been testing a couple of V8 options in MX for the past 3 weeks now and they had to move the strut towers to make one of the original V8s to fit. The unnamed V8 is supposedly one that Kuniskis was working on before he left Stellantis.

[@MattMaranMotoring]

Where did you hear this?

[@sawyermartin4434]

Who is "they?" That was an awfully tall claim to not give any references as to where you got the information from.

[@phild8602]

​@MattMaranMotoring TKs Garage and Butta da insider. They have been on the money with every move Stellantis has been making.

[@PaulGrant-t6t]

Comment on 3 subjects. 1) Dodge Charger. The EV version is rather heavy. Let's hope the Hurricane in line six is at least 1000 LBS lighter. 2) Amazing that CEO Tavares who worked with Nissan in the US for years really failed to understand the US market. What may have worked in Europe for Renault does not mean it will work in the US. Let's hope better product and more reasonable prices for Dodge, Ram and perhaps Chrysler product. 3). Clearly to me the blue and pink colors for the Jag concept are denoting male and female potential buyers. The Concept front end reminds me of a modern take on the American Locomotive. The rear reminds me of a coolant grill. The overall shape is not bad otherwise. The good news is that this is a concept and not the production version. It's a high-end product EV so I don't really care.

[@knifetoucher]

2:04 irrelevant that the EV has more power when it's almost 1500 lbs heavier and does 0-60 in a pathetic 4.6 sec. My 2016 WRX does that.

[@phillyphil1513]

7:13 - "MO POWAH BABEE...!!!" (best Donut/James Pumphrey voice)

[@c.a.r.s.carsandrelevantspecs]

Lots of interesting news again this week! I'm especially excited for the Mazda rotary engine. Thanks for this week's update! 😎👍

[@LoganWard4621]

have a great weekend as usual btw have anything fun planned for this weekend?

[@jform8147]

Sonata sales increasing? No kidding, have you looked at the old model 🤮

[@norwegianblue2017]

How did they manage to make the car wider and longer, but no way to fit the old Hellcat motor in it?

[@paulfairchild8942]

Thanks Matt!

[@antoinelee-thomas9536]

Both the Sonata and the Elantra are at the end of their life cycles. Sonata should definitely be ready for their redesign and be an even better than ever car. Sonata can get its first N model for its next generation. Elantra is on its final model year now. More importantly, the Elantra N is at the end of its life cycle after the 2025 model year because the 2.0T engine will be phased out from the engine lineup altogether as it is the last car to have it and will upgrade to the 2.5T engine for the next generation Elantra N which will make the next gen Elantra N even better and hotter than the current gen version. Calendar year 2025 is going to be a great year for Hyundai with 2026-2030 model year Sonata and Elantra vehicles.

[@titiwin25]

7:11 MO POWA BABY !!!! LIGHTNING LIGHTNING !!!!! 🤣

[@imnotusingmyrealname4566]

200 miles of range in 15 minutes is the least impressive thing I've ever heard. That's 15 minutes in the most efficient charge window. When this comes out it will be utterly mediocre.

[@TunedByJ]

Jaguar got a lot of heat for this wild new take on design and direction. Personally, I dig it! It’s cool, it’s edgy and it’s bold. The purist will hate it, but the purist dont care about sales as much, look I get it, being a purist myself. But if this helps save Jaguar and sells more cars, Im here for it. I did wish they kept some of their racing traditions in their design, but again, I get it. A lot riding on this new direction.

[@MKu64]

The assumption is that electric doesn't have gears... but combustion engines didn't have gears to start with either. By adding gears, you just have smaller motors.. which was exactly how the progression of ICE went.

[@harvardford8752]

the jaguar looks like a hotwheels car. I love it wish it had the svr engine tho :c

[@Slimothy]

*Jag is cooked 🤣 the wealthy people who purchase Jags does not want that fruity/zesty BS. RIP Jag but it is what it is, plenty of normal, non-creepy car companies out there.*

[@Artemissy_1]

It's the best looking jag they've made in 50 years. Someone sounds like they're projecting

[@jjkool48]

@@Artemissy_1 Faguar is toast!

[@Tigeron1a]

Hmm the rotary though is not the most efficient, nor reliable really...unless they figured out how to keep the apex seals from wearing out.

[@tomc8854]

That car is huge! I’m sure someone will fit it. I think they’re saying that because they just want to use the six. Jaguar is lost , the zero zero looks like it took zero time to draw. Looks more like something from Bentley.

[@Elephant_Thoughts]

I REMEMBER when Dodge said V8 won't in a Jeep Wrangler, then started saying "oh, a 5.7L might work" and now we got a 392 Wrangler without hacking up anything. Also there are hellcat swapped Wranglers running around here from shops with KZbin channels. Simply, I don't believe ANY stellantis engineers about what won't fit and just gave KZbin content creators new material in 2025 with sema builds.

[@MonkeyPower55]

The rotors means nothing if they aren't driving the wheels. I love the look of the SP, but will probably end up getting an MX-5 before Mazda ditches the sports car formula they have perfected over the years. Such a shame.

[@lytatroan]

Its gonna fit a 5.7 for sure Maybe with some tweaking we can get a 6.2 or 6.4 Or that rumored Magnum V8

[@briancorreia2923]

Hopefully the Sanota sales improvement teaches makers that consumers buy more of their products when they aren’t so ugly that drivers have to avert their eyes until they’re behind the wheel. Just think what the Tucson and Elantra could do if Hyundai took the origami creases out of the side metal.

[@whiteandnerdytuba]

aston put a v12 into the old vantage with crash structures and everything else. it doesnt fit is bs

You would have to remove the electric motor first, this vehicle is huge.

[@enriqueluna8135]

They’ll make it fit🗿

[@venussavage]

You said it, not much going on with those Jags. They can get rich people to buy anything.

[@SkyyMi]

Waiting for the day someone buys a salvage charger and makes a V8 fit.

[@marcnobel3938]

The new Jaguar looks at least good from the side. The front and rear is boring. It is also nothing new, it is just Artdeco Design with a modern touch (I am biased here as I don't like Artdeco in Architecture, Furniture, Lights or whatever is done with it). Mercedes had a car like this in 2016 -called the Maybach 6 - which was a less edgy concept of the same idea. The details on that have been much better but still ... Artdeco ....

[@philmannino4567]

does the straight 6 fit in the Wrangler?

[@michaelhartness4799]

Matt if you had to pick one vehicle that scratched the enthusiasts itch, you could daily drive and take on a couple of road trips per year. What would you pick?

[@MattMaranMotoring]

It would depend on how much money I had to use. But a manual Cadillac CT5-V Blackwing would probably be a top pick.

[@phillyphil1513]

it'll fit. Rich Rebuilds put a V8 in a Model S, and at SEMA 2024 another guy just put a 2JZ into a Model 3.

[@Adam_824]

I look forward to seeing how bad the sales are for dodge

[@Alvedrotten]

Oh it'll fit 😊

[@briancorreia2923]

Efficiency and durability be damned give me a nostalgia engine to power my range extending generator. Heck, give me a pickup truck model that uses a steam engine.

[@mojojoji5493]

Crazy discoveries

[@tomdoe1234]

The idea of emission regulations coming in ended on Nov 5. THANK GOD. The Jaguar has the right name 00 will be the number of unit sold

[@aliabdi6094]

haha 😐

[@chrisplummer9639]

Mazda Icon SP is not much to be excited for..its a rotary generator for an EV...we want a real engine 2 rotor rx-9

[@xaionik]

Dodge is not going back to the Hellcat motor. It costs the company too much.

[@antoinelee-thomas9536]

And they got fined so many times by the government.

[@ibme4251]

The Jaguar Fat Cat Car looks overweight.

[@drdetroitwheels]

You're right they won't be doing that but they will be putting a 5.7 l hemi 4.7 Magnum engine dual overhead cam V8 variable valve twin turbo a 3.9 l Ferrari architecture V8 from the California reason being is John elkin is also sits on the board of directors of Ferrari and you want to find out sources go to TK's garage go to butter The insider brings receipts go to dizzle in motion who brings the receipts and go to OC motivator who brings receipts

[@jonathanshoffitt403]

I think Dodge should've retired both the Charger and Challenger name plates and revived the Stelth with this new L6 cus trying to sale a Charger with one of these would be hard and almost impossible considering most associate this car with a V8

[@jonathanshoffitt403]

Would like to add also to have a sports car platform built around that L6 not some full size car nonsense that weighs as much as a pickup truck

[@drdetroitwheels]

It doesn't fit it's a strut Tower issue they got to move the strut towers a couple of millimeters

[@eddieg6436]

The ULTRA rich are different. They want something different from the “common” person. The new Jag will sell in low numbers (hell, they should sell it for $300K), it’ll sell in Beverly Hills, Palm Beach, and the Hamptons. The hateful comments remind me of some rube in a Flyover state saying his 4 year old could “throw paint” at a canvas and it would look just like a masterpiece. ……People in Flyover states, and rural, “Honey boo-boo” areas just don’t get it!! 🤷🏼‍♂️🤔😂😎🥂

[@dillonsrt]

If a hellcat can be crammed in a 350z/370z then it absolutely will fit in the new charger. Just gotta put effort in Edit: good riddance to Carlos Tavares, you wont be missed

[@felixreln9382]

As usual, it's a girth issue.

[@drdetroitwheels]

I broke the camel's back as he decided that he wasn't going to build any v8s no way no how they told him quit or get fired he decided to resign

[@RalHellcat]

DODGE, make the Charger with AWD & the Hellcat Engine and Ill buy it The only thing cool about the 2025 Charger is the AWD. Not the EV or Hurricane 😎👍💪

[@tim3172]

As a former Mazda fan, I'm extremely saddened to hear that they're wasting their time and MONEY (which they don't have a ton of and never have) on a rotary engine. How many times do they need to get kicked in the face with that failed technology before they move on?

[@rjdavis7503]

The Rotary is a great engine. It is used in aircraft and factorys. Rotax is a big manufacturer of the Rotary. How can you be a former, Mazda fan?

[@TTBOn00bKiLleR]

Stop the cap. You ain't no mazda fan😂

[@davidmccarthy6061]

@@rjdavis7503 The time for a rotary in passenger cars has passed. Time to move on.

[@lifesAtrip513]

Who says it's time? You act as if motors cant be improved upon over a span of decades​@davidmccarthy6061

[@drdetroitwheels]

Hey Matt have you checked out the KZbin channels that I told you to check out TK's garage what are The insider OC motivator whizzle in motion

[@lucasl.5084]

oh man they dropped the new palisade just this morning, shame you missed it

[@drunkpolack7612]

Atleast we know the new charger won’t get stolen. Yn’s don’t want a ev or 6 cylinder. 😂

[@thatoneotherotherguy]

As if 6-cylinder Chargers weren’t virtually the most stolen car on the market….

[@drunkpolack7612]

@ says who? Pretty sure scats and hellcats are more likely to be stolen.

[@jerridehlinger9689]

I understand they are testing v8 Daytona chargers in Mexico atm

[@BertShackleford]

I would like to throw my hat in the ring for the new Stellantis CEO position. My resume includes - Not f***ing up everything I touch. [Full Stop] Lastly, I hope you enjoyed your time here in Phoenix, Arizona recently. We could have had sooo much fun brother! Maybe next time... It must be hard going from our warm(er) weather back to the frigid climate of PA. FWIW, we are experiencing roughly 20-30°F temperature swings every day. Our seasons went from Summer, completely skipped over Fall and _now_ we are finally heading into our Winter. Nevertheless, I greatly appreciate these Weekly Updates, Matt. You never cease to amaze me with your dedication to the channel and the car community. Stay classy my friend. Side Note - My resources tell me that a few buyers have proposed some offers to purchase the Stellantis Proving Grounds here in Arizona. I did not get any names, but I will keep my ear to the ground. [Hat tip]

[@robertstone9988]

My wifes bf said he likes my charger ev

[@brokeboy87]

With Dodge's financial issues, they might be trying to simplify to save short-term costs. Dodge can always resurrect an old car like the Magnum and drop v8 in it.

[@CaptainCJ97]

The real question is the new charger gonna have actually good security? As for the last story glad sedans are doing well

[@Duuhvis]

I honestly like the direction Jag is going.

[@MrHemikid426]

I think the new Chargers suspension towers are too narrow to fit a V8 and may be getting a redesign to widen them. This would make sense, being the huge front tire on the front of performance models would cause towers to be pushed in for turning clearance.

[@Jag-leaper]

Here's an idea......... If you want the V8 just buy the old car!!!!!!! ITS CHEAPER

[@drdetroitwheels]

If they weren't losing $100,000 a car it would be a great thing but they're losing $100,000 on each car they sell

[@413x398]

If I buy a performance car I want a performance sound. Vee Eight. No substitutes. "I" am the demographic they want; older, retired, cash to burn. We must be invisible. We must not have friends of the same opinion. Sheesh.

[@themightyshogun]

That Mazda concept puts the JaGuar to shame

[@TTBOn00bKiLleR]

That double rotary nit being for straight power output is bullshit. 😂

[@Carlos.Rivera]

Hope the ew "RX" compete againt GR86/BRZ in terms of price and power

[@davidmccarthy6061]

Sadly, it can't. As an EV/gas hybrid t will be twice the price but it likely won't last long. It will be the same problem of the RX8 with owners not understanding the need to constantly add oil. Not expecting many people to buy a "Miata" for over 50 grand.

[@fortheloveofnoise]

Hellcat engine may not come, but a V8 os coming in a few words, mark my word....but it most likely won't be that motor like you said. They have quite a few V8s in their arsenal. Even some really small ones.

[@vibhuiyer6984]

I call bs on the hellcat engine not fitting into the Charger, they probably want to keep it a surprise if they do plan it. The hood is quite long on the new charger

[@bradenmchenry995]

Dodge is straight up lying about the hellcat motor not fitting. That motor will easily fit in the engine bay. With room to spare

[@Jag-leaper]

How do you know? Are you on the engineering team?

[@bradenmchenry995]

⁠@@Jag-leaperthey have bragged about how much wider the new charger is. Not only that, you can literally look up engine bay pics of the 6 cylinder. It’s extremely wide and long

[@thatoneotherotherguy]

@@bradenmchenry995 that's extremely far from proof. That blown V8 is pretty wide and pretty tall. It not fitting without substantial chassis modifications or a Vin Diesel hood is believable.

[@tim3172]

Source: trust me, bro.

[@Jag-leaper]

@@tim3172 exactly 💯 ...nothing to see here

[@marfrandema1884]

I call the lack of Charger V8 rubbish

[@twotrackjack2260]

I 100% guarantee people will find totaled out Charger EV's and find a way to stuff in a Hellcat drivetrain, if for no other reason than to give Stelantis the middle finger lol

[@CorridorCulprit]

Jaguar going after the artsy fartsy group but bringing out a 4 door seems pretty counterintuitive. But I'm sure Jaguar knows exactly what they're doing like Nissan and Stellantis

[@Jeffro-n4d]

I'm just happy that they still plan to make the EV Charger at all. Hopefully they return production to the USA and avoid the tariff.

[@gaivoron]

Great that it doesn't fit! I hope Dodge raises the price on those new bucks.

[@ian2372]

Who is this new Dodge brand for? Not the old crew that loved the outgoing challenger and charger.

[@TheModernPioneer]

Honestly, I don’t see the utility in buying a new Charger even IF it had a Hellcat engine. Why not just buy a previous gen Hellcat which is better looking and exponentially less expensive?

[@jordanfrank5989]

1st!!

[@antoinelee-thomas9536]

People still do this? 🤷🏽

[@theblackguy633]

They also said a v8 would not fit in a jeep wrangler either. Trust me if they can get enough money for it they will make it.

[@thatoneotherotherguy]

And of note, they had to make very substantial modifications to the JL Wrangler to pull off that 6.4L in there. Which is expensive and harder to economically put on the production line. Hence the sky high MSRPs for the 392 Wranglers. Sure. They could maybe rework this new platform heavily to pull off the Hellcat motor. And then try to sell it for $150,000