Helldivers 2 How to Beat Helldive Difficulty Guide!

[@DTA316DTA]

Dropping samples at the extract point os a good idea for any difficulty level. One thingg to add though, if your team passes by at the same time have everyone but one drop samples. Have the one guy pick them all up before dropping and all your samples will now be consolidated into 1 pick up. If you pass by alone, pick up any other samples while there before dropping for the same reason. Easier to grab one single pickup with all samples than run around picking up multiple, especially if your extract is under heavy fire. Oh and when Pelican-1 does show up, the sample holder should enter first.

[@andrewcollier3495]

I tried doing this and placed all the supersamples at the extraction point. I was then kicked and I presume the samples stolen by the rest of the team. I now always keep them 😬

[@Article15Angling]

We do that mid match too. If you move in 2 man teams only one dude should have samples so you don't have to back track if you get split up

[@coldestfuture7049]

Nah man, 3 of 4 times samples simply disappear shortly before extraction. That's from my experience

[@DTA316DTA]

@@andrewcollier3495 That's the risk of playing with randoms. Block them and move on is what I do.

[@DTA316DTA]

@@coldestfuture7049 Haven't had any disappear in any of my matches yet.

[@Robbins2324]

I would say don't expect to drop in and be safe. There is always people around. So run off and find a safe spot to call in your stuff. Also don't stand and fight, shoot, move, and communicate. Never stop moving, I run up to a bot Fab and throw an eagle air at it, and run off. With the heavy bases, I throw the orbital laser at it and run off. If I need to finish it off, I'll come by later and do so. Fighting equals death keep moving and know you'll win the fight before taking it. Extraction is hell unless everyone lays down and hide.

[@undrwrldsk8fred]

Extraction is easy when you 100% the whole mission. I just be waiting for evac looking at my phone sometimes

[@Robbins2324]

@@undrwrldsk8fred We 100% everything every time. Still is a nightmare

[@MyBigMistake01]

4:32 It's good to know that im not the only one who calls it "The eye of sauron"

[@Nephs_]

ive yet to meet someone who doesn't call them that

[@steeljawX]

I mean, yeah. But it's robot Sauron, which is like something from Transformers. So I call it the "Eye of Unicron" instead. Same concept, more on brand...kinda.

[@bruticus1496]

What do y’all call the super samples rock? My friends call it by but plug, coom rock, Zeus’s nob, and silver bullet😂

[@comanderjimmy4198]

@@bruticus1496 penis rock

[@ender_z4nd3r83]

@@bruticus1496 dick rock, plain and simple

[@KTheStruggler]

one big piece of advice that I've recommended with pretty much every game is to play consciously. Go in lose the mission but remember why you did. Oh this primary weapon wasn't killing small enemies fast enough, I don't have much in my kit to deal with striders, this stratagem I brought is not performing in the way I was hoping it would. Learn from the mistakes you make and play helldive, from there you will adjust your play and loadout piece by piece until you figure out what setups work for you.

[@AndroidA258]

I pretty much only play helldive and the tips i can give are: 1 - do not get into pointless fights 2 - eliminate all enemies as fast as you can so they dont call in backup 3 - learn to take cover 4 - avoid patrols at every cost 5 - objective first then subobjectives, unless its SEAF objectives

[@trulsrohk1]

you do this on bugs too?

[@AndroidA258]

@@trulsrohk1 minus the cover part yeah, on bugs you gotta RUN

[@Spectacular_Insanity]

On eliminating enemies, it's also a good idea to prioritize smaller mobs, as they tend to call for help more often and they're easy to kill.

[@thestarhopper]

@@AndroidA258 lol yea, bug helldive is like 'GOTTA GO FAST'

[@trulsrohk1]

@@AndroidA258 huh. Weird that me and my squad generally don't have to run much

[@dracuhl8342]

Soooo glad to see you consistently covering a new game outside of Overwatch after watching you for so many years!

[@AdnanCucak]

I used to watch back in the Early overwatch days! Had no idea he was still around doing stuff

[@misty1226]

An another tip you should have mention is, drop weak bots first if you have to engage, because if at least one of them is alive, they will call for a bot drop and you know how it feels like. And if they are all dead, no matter how many of others left, there wont be any reinforcements. Its also possible to just hide at LZ and just peacefully wait until extraction arrives. Just dont leave pods with what ever it has inside, because they will see it.

[@wizsword.]

been playing helldive for about a week now and in all honestly you can use any stratagem just bring an anti tank weapon and if you feel confident split off from your team and do the main objective

[@Mythoatissodry]

I do the same thing cuz I feel like the enemy spaces out more when your team is in different parts of the map

[@thestarhopper]

i do the same, especially for bugs. i'll run light armour and run around the far side of the map, clearing out nests, tacticals, POIs, etc. while the rest of the squad focuses on the main objective and thus absorbs the majority of the bug breaches. once they've triggered a breach, i have a window to move without fear that i'll end up being swamped with enemies, and because they're probably all together they should be able to handle whatever comes out. on a good run i can clear out my entire side of the map without dying once. this tactic is also why i like the localisation confusion booster from cutting edge, because it increases the 'cooldown' before another breach/drop can be called.

[@atheos.1383]

The biggest tip about helldive is that YOU CONTROL THE SPAWN RATE. Basically by doing everything you just listed. Know when to engage, when to retreat, when to avoid, and how to clear fast and efficiently.

[@Mythoatissodry]

@@thestarhopper oh yes localization is really broken fr

[@PCBuilderChannel]

Great opening advice! I only play helldive difficulty and I've stopped using quickplay because too many just trying to win every stand up fight. It's the difference between being the regular army and special forces!

[@gutlesswarrior]

yooooo, this is not a crossover I ever expected to see. Thanks for all your advice Jason! My new PC smokes HD2 on Epic settings at 2k ultrawide and it has been a blast. Maybe I'll see you on the battlefield!

[@thestarhopper]

i find that if you get a squad that communicates quickplay can still work also if you split from the team and act as a lone scout, most of the time it turns into a 'not my problem' situation

[@ionmedicaldesigns8122]

Good analogy!

[@PCBuilderChannel]

@@gutlesswarrior Haha! I'm already in your games, completing your objectives. :)

[@klocalr]

Think of helldivers as cammandos. They are not looking to engage in a full on battle but like specialized soldiers looking to go in behind enemy lines wreak havoc execute the mission and extract

[@thestarhopper]

they are technically the most elite soldiers Super Earth has, which is why it's so funny that missions can go from making you feel like a squad of commandos, dropped inside enemy territory to sabotage their war efforts, to making you feel like a total goon squad thrown into occupied/contested territory in the hopes that one of you will press the right button on the computer and launch the nuke

[@cheezcruncher]

​@@thestarhopper I disagree, I interpret the helldivers as normal star citizens who are being influenced by propaganda then thrown into battle with only the tutorial-mission as your training. Helldivers are not more special ops than the 17 year olds who got thrown into war durint ww2

[@gangsterguardsman4576]

@@cheezcruncherany recruit that can survive the highly realistic battlefield simulator is the cream of the crop (literally, the rest are dead) and can be considered more elite than regular SEAF infantry personnel

[@JKM2468]

@@cheezcruncherthey literally freeze you after you complete a 5 minute training, and bring you back right before being launched into the planet lmao

[@dreamshotmedia]

Can't wait to see if they add "Inner Circle of Hell" difficulty from HD1 (HD1 had 15 difficulty settings Helldive being 12 and not 9 like HD2, I don't think HD2 needs the super easy ones though) Difficulties from Helldivers 1 1 Dive in the Park 2 Very Easy 3 Easy 4 Medium 5 Challenging 6 Very Challenging 7 Hard 8 Very Hard 9 Hard as Hell 10 Suicide Mission 11 Impossible 12 Helldive 13 An Exercise in Futility 14 The Definition of Insanity 15 The Inner Circle of Hell

[@Guitarfailtastic2857]

Helldivers 2 brings the same gameplay loop as Doom Eternal brought back in the day. KEEP MOVING

[@natomiltary4573]

As a Hell diver-Helldiver I can confirm boots on the ground nonstop movement is the best way to handle most situations. Keep moving and when you engage make to sure prioritize the enemies that can call in dropships or summon bug holes, for robots the bots with the red swords are the first ones to call in for backup, but all bot infantry can call in back up which actually makes them a higher priority than tanks or hulks especially when engaging a patrol or a new area that you were previously undetected in. For bugs, scouts are the first to call for backup and then bile titans, thats right. Bile titans will call for backup usually when they first see you. Broodmother bugs also call in reinforcements but not as often and all the tiny green spitters also call in reinforcements.

[@cmdrmasterkroz5852]

Dropping samples at extraction is genius! Thank you

[@ourlordandsavioredupes4102]

I will say jump pack and explosive resistant heavy armor, are super good together. Think of the jumpack as a "super dive" spam it all the time especially going downhill at all. will also allow you to jump, in drop hellbomb, jump out

[@thestarhopper]

helldive is my go-to for bugs and i think one of the biggest things you need to keep in mind is that you don't need to fight everything you see. even if it's just a few smaller enemies, unless you know you can take them all out quickly (and preferably without using a stratagem, because you ideally want to save those for bigger groups and elites), being too slow can lead to having a breach or drop called in, and the tide of battle can very quickly turn against you. also in terms of loadout, you can generally run whatever you want, so long as you understand what it is that you have and thus what your strengths and weaknesses are. for example, i usually run medium armour against bots, which gives me more speed than heavy armour but also makes me slightly more fragile, so i know that i can't take fights out in the open and should play from cover at all times. for primary and secondary weapons, of course some are just better than others, but for armour and stratagems it's less black-and-white, and if you know how to use it you can take whatever you want and do fine.

[@tuckster907]

I had 4 factory striders come from dropships on a geological survey at level 7 so expect to see more of them. I'm level 96 and had only seen one ever before

[@timekillerjavi3929]

During extractions don't shoot the bots just hide behind things and prone they will search for you but as long as you don't get caught it's easy to extract

[@stevenobrien7686]

I started dropping samples on extract and it is such a good idea if you can swing it. Level 8 is my usual comfort zone. It feels more well balanced for me. But Stylosa you’re right it always baffles me even on level 8, how many people bring builds that are just not gonna be effective against the faction or mission type. You don’t always have to bring META, but you damn well better bring stuff that is effective and appropriate to give you and your team a fair shot at the mission.

[@ionmedicaldesigns8122]

We actually started dropping in on an objective. 4 hellpod missiles coming in on targets and get 1 task done right away. Then, call in gear. Works very well for us and it’s fun! It’s about a 90% chance you’re going to get attacked immediately anyhow so why not jump in and get after it!

[@silbury2325]

Helldive is not a skill issue, it's a mindset issue. The objective of the game is not to kill as many enemies as possible. If you play the game because you want to kill as many enemies as possible, THAT'S FINE. You just need to acknowledge that you are actively choosing not to play the actual objective. If you want to challenge yourself to beating helldive with brute force, THAT'S FINE. Just don't complain that helldive is too hard and needs to be made easier, because it's not.

[@Romanian901]

I recently started running quasar, ballistic shield, defender smg and grenade pistol with heavy armour. It's not a jack of all trades but it's wonderful for taking out the devastators and troopers while quasar can kill cannons, hulks and tanks, nades for striders. Preferably never go in alone because striders and rockets can still fuck you up

[@joshizfly]

This sounds nice, I like to defender too. Bonus points for explosion resist

[@TalosEscanor]

lvl9 is not that bad anymore. Split for fast and ez mission. Bot drop spawns only for 1 guy at a time.

[@Spectacular_Insanity]

Now that patrols no longer randomly spawn on top of you, it's a lot less frustrating.

[@Spectacular_Insanity]

Running light armor against Automatons is fine, but you do need to be more cognizant of your surroundings and utilize cover when it's available and use your mobility to seize advantageous positions. Heavy armor is definitely nice if you're struggling to avoid damage (some maps are really open with very little cover) or if you want a greater margin of error.

[@EvaandJavier]

What to do in a flag raise where you must hold the line during non stop drops/breaches

[@supersysscvi]

"Here's a helldive difficulty tutorial!" Me, someone trying to learn lv 7 difficulty: "Thanks! :D"

[@DJMarcO138]

Had 4 hulks and like 7 or 8 gunships of Hard last night all at the same time. That was just on Hard.

[@loboseesthings6269]

That means you didn't take them out fast enough

[@DJMarcO138]

@@loboseesthings6269 that's what that means on every map. Did you think you were schooling me with that tidbit? lol

[@loboseesthings6269]

@@DJMarcO138 did you think 4 hulks and 8 gunships is difficult?

[@DJMarcO138]

@@loboseesthings6269 it was with a pug that didn't know what they were doing, but no, not typically. I tend to play level 7 most of the time. Did you want to try slipping in a "git gud"? Or maybe whip out that tiny willy and attempt a measuring contest?

[@Xenosix]

use 50% reduced explosive dmg armor, scorcher, shield, keep running do objective first then you can fuck around this aplies to bots is for me the easiest way and remember extraction is optional

[@Acadeimos]

Treat Helldive difficulty with caution. Less running around and engaging patrols willy-nilly, and more ‘choosing’ when to fight whenever you can. Don’t fight bot drops if you can avoid it too.

[@RQS321]

I use the shield gen strategem for helldive difficulty. I tend to join people mid game and the first thing I do is up up left right left right. Because I know for a fact i'm getting swarmed the moment I land. And ususally it gives me enough time to get everything I need set up.

[@TheStrayHALOMAN]

I love playing hell dive so long as my team isn't near me or making too much noise. I play like rambo and ambush enemy communists by using hit and run and ending fights within seconds... I hate bombers and splash damage since I can just use my auto canon and smooth moves and normally I've killed everything before my team mates eagle comes in and team kills me. Now I just need the devs to add claymore mines and other ambush equipment... ALSO a silenced pistol and SMG like the ones from Halo ODST... like the Knight could have a silenced variant called the Silent Knight.

[@ac2jones]

Being able to snuff out a bug breach just like shooting down a dropship would be cool

[@b9904]

At 0:01, if this is before extract, drop a two 380 and problem MIGHT be solved at best. At worst, lesser enemies. Keep prone.

[@Jackal19x]

Glad to see someone else calls it the Eye of Sauron lol

[@VoidGamingZero]

Is there a way in game to turn up the brightness/gamma? On some planets i aint seeing shit :(

[@ivarornhalfdanarson9578]

I solo helldive difficulty for fun 😊

[@danielbob2628]

Step 1: STOP JOINING RANDOM LOBBIES AND ANTAGONIZING EVERY PATROL YOU SEE. YOU CAN GO AROUND THEM.

[@BeastOrGod]

Stun Grenade, two AMR or Auto shots to the face, Hulks dead. Ez.

[@merfs107]

Great tips!!!❤

[@trulsrohk1]

bots and bugs play fairly different. While some of the tips and tricks here apply to both, me and my buddies default to 9s for bugs and you need to move when you need to move, but you don't need to avoid fights nearly so much if you're decent, decent loadouts, and know what you're doing. We often just engage and kill whatever we come across. Total bug kills for a 40 minute session for the 4 of us are often well north of 1200. Have seen some discussion of it, but at least for the bugs, if you kill basically everything you come across, extraction is usually relatively easy and can just stand ground at the extract and kill off anything that might crop up without too much issue

[@ScoundrelzNTwK]

Helldive is a fighting retreat through the objectives.

[@matticus11]

I would appreciate a reduction in enemy despawn time. If we're meant to move a lot the devs could encourage this with that change.

[@Noobish_Camper55]

Abusing the despawn mechanic of running across the map and back can save a helldive fast, especially against bots who are in general slow. Wasting a couple minutes in a 40 minute mission to avoid a spiral into defeat is worth. The only downside with the strat is if you public lobby queue. In that case expect to lose half your games with the empty headed randoms that speed run deaths.

[@OP10thNakama]

Helldive is basically play smart and utilize all the mechanics of the game to your advantage

[@Mr.R0ug3]

I found the best why to deal with them. lol I don’t I’m waiting for the developers to nerf them. Plain & simple

[@weizhou7227]

Thanks for making this video, I wish more people know how to flight level 9. Join a random level 9 is painful right now since lot of player just keep flight with drop ship and dead

[@JuiceEternal]

Great vid

[@RandomCivilians]

Maybr for bugs, but none of this is true for bots in my experience. I always run stealth armor, sniper, jumppack, and orbitals. You can easily sneak your way into major objectives, drop the hellbomb, and jumppack out before any aggro or bot drops come. And sniping is essential. Can easily scout objective locations and ping patrols from miles before theyre anywhere near you so you know if you should lay low or dip. Plus, if youve got the aim, everything goes down in one or two shots in their crit spot besides heavies, so youre not wasting ammo. So you can just post up in a sniper nest for ages before you have to move, but more than likely wipe the enemy. Orbitals especially like the walking laser can clear entire objectives without getting near, because the jumppack can yeet strategems if you throw at the top of the jump. I run this infiltrator scout all the time and leave generally with all maun and side objectives and with 0-2 deaths on average. Helldive isnt really hard, it's knowing when to fall back and hoping your team knows when as well. The only time when we fail is when im trying to stealth in to get rid of the flying bot spawner, but they pull its attention anyway and spawn too many fliers for us to escape or reinforce from. Seriously, you see someone crouching/belly crawling, you best do the same. Do go in Rambo and screw things up for everyone.

[@trulsrohk1]

nah this is overly safe advice for bugs too if your squad is decent and picks decent strats. We just kill everything we come across

[@crimson182]

I think units only despawn as well They exit the map, but they will begin to wander when they have no target and the will eventually wander off the map.

[@badfoody]

Real content Better games

[@senzubeanbotanist152]

100th like🎉🎉 thanks for tips

[@jerryloveless4323]

More please

[@TurkMovement]

I truly think we need one more difficulty above helldive

[@tripxez8478]

This ^^

[@ew6230]

@11:05 i legit thought you said, "don't have protracted bowels" >

[@KlausKlausen-pe3jq]

I do agree with most of the stuff respectively with the general concepts But I definitely disagree on the armor part Nobody of my Squad (myself included) is wearing heavy armor on Helldive Especially not against Bots I'd rather have mobility and the ability to reposition quickly in or before a fight over the 10% damage reduction For me personally light armor is so much better

[@tigon8224]

Once I unlocked helldive any other difficulty became unpatriotic

[@coleostimie9725]

I was with a group of randoms today on helldive and we gave the bots the business because they were between us and the extraction point and they kept calling in drops I think it took us 12 mins to fight through them to the extraction

[@raniasaad8772]

kill as much as you can, when there is too many enemies simply run away

[@SteveMorris-c2r]

Been trying to get into 7-9 but I seem capped at 6. I have been maxed out on everything but super samples since March. I have no stable squad so Im stuck with randos most of the time. Every time I jump into a 7 things get weird. Either the squad has no coordination and everyone scatters or I get weird connection issues. I for the most part use all of these tips as best I can but I guess nothing replaces allies who know what they are doing. Side notes, you can never ping targets enough. Pinging targets gives your squad info and in poor visual conditions helps with longer ranged shots. I like the eagle rocket pods against bots. It one shots tanks and towers reliably, can one shot hulks if the angle is right and pairs well with the AMR.

[@slayzet4293]

Just keep trying diff 7 and either go as 4 or 2 pairs. If its 3 and one guy is wandered off, its good idea to follow him to make pairs. Unless that guy is too far then forget it. I also noticed that players under lvl20 tend to fight everything so keep that in mind. Also try to fill in what your team is lacking in strategems. However I do not recommend you to use support weapon you are not familiar with as it can hold you back. For example, i main AMR and when i noticed that other 3 were bringing 3 AC, i thought we needed quasar so i swapped to it. Turns out they cant aim for shit and hulks everywhere, devastators murdering us, i dont knoe how to use quasar effectively beside being aa. Dont be like me, bring ur partner. If i had AMR, we probably wouldnt have that problem as i would have sniped them.

[@scherzyuboi422]

You don't get good in helldivers you just learn to like the pain

[@Zurpanik]

It's definitely a problem when the method to be most successful in a game's higher difficulties is to NOT play the game.... I'm hoping they'll still be doing something to fix that and have it so that instead of having cheating spawn stacks, which is so 90s, they'll have difficulty naturally emerge from the initial spawn setup, unit density, and objective locations. Having the difficulty broken right now is fine since it's absolutely more important to fix the more serious issues with crashing! What's rad is the game is tons of fun on just about every level =D

[@lowbearful]

yeah, you have to unlearn the way you played up to that difficulty. also seems everyone wants to split off and go solo (that actually creates more patrols too btw) so it no longer feels like a co-op game

[@TheSouthern1cross]

Beating HD is easy, Extracting is the fun part

[@Dinawartotem]

Wait. Can you take stuff from your own supply pack? ;O

[@legionxiii6109]

Cool

[@hellatze]

also if playing on defense mode just spam mortar and sentry with squad

[@zbyszanna]

EMS mortars coupled with area of effect weapons do wonders.

[@wusaint]

Legit hate when I drop into impossible or hell dive difficulties and I have a team of low level divers that think they have to take on every fight that presents itself. I stop reinforcing them. No matter how nicely I try to explain to sneak and to stop taking fights head on they don't hear it.

[@LordLeif1220]

Okay, not even a minute in, and I'm going to have to disagree with you. Your first tip shouldn't be to keep moving, it should be to end engagements quickly. The second tip is if your finding yourself and your squad in those prolonged engagements and you are getting instantly killed on reinforcements, GET ORGANIZED! Think of the engagement as a large circle on the map. Find a place on the edge of the engagement where you can all group and take cover. From there you can being to disengage. Having one or two stand and fight will allow for the others to break away from the fight. Then either they fall in glorious battle and get reinforced far away or have an epic tale of heroic valor for later. And don't worry about your samples you can go back for them later. Of note this works for extraction as long as you have enough time remaining. Which circles back to my first tip.

[@WhatsThePointPicture]

Eh, that first bits not entirely true, taking fights in Helldive is entirely possible and sometimes even necessary. You can absolutely stand your ground with your squad if you work together properly. The key skill you need to develop though is a constant assessment of the situation, knowing when to pull out and when to push through is very important, and if you aren't able to determine that then you're going to have a bad time. Taking proper positions and funneling your enemies is also important, getting surrounded can very easily make your situation untenable if you let that escalate.

[@euroking1337]

It's so hard to tell people that keep moving. They never listen 😢😅

[@inflatable2]

I think level 7 suicide is the sweetspot for this game when playing with randoms and you still want/need those pink super samples to unlock stuff.. Any higher requires a coordinated team with players that know how to play this game effictively.. Level 7 also still gives you 3 super samples if you manage to find them, and just 2-3 more on level 8 and 9 Helldive is not worth it imho.. To high risk the extraction will fail and you end up with no samples and just wasted another 45 min of your time..

[@cableitoh01]

Will I still keep all the samples even I fail the mission?

[@Sarinadragon]

You will not, you have to extract to keep the samples collected.

[@ender_z4nd3r83]

imagine needing a guide lmao

[@nickult]

you kept saying you overstayed your welcome, i am not sure you were welcome tho :D

[@st.paddymad7085]

A guide that everyone can benefit from. Unlike those Overwatch guides.

[@SirEvilestDeath]

You are not playing this game correctly if you do not litter the extraction point with mines and a Tesla tower as well as make sure you collect all the samples and jump into water to drown. How can people keep playing this game and not understand the basics of how to play with others?

[@lucas80521]

I play real slow pace, so I play tutorial or easy difficulties.

[@player_3]

My problem is that my game crashes in helldive.😂

[@KnifeGoo]

Kenshi%Coffee makes videos where he gets randoms to help him do missions and them kicks them before extraction, biggest loser in the whole community

[@Acerbase]

EXTRACTION Is optional 💀

[@Engineer1998]

The Answer: Git Gud!

[@jonc3519]

Helldive with bugs is easy

[@cilicate4109]

1

[@chriscunningham8703]

Unless they add a whole ton of content (that works) I’m done with the game!

[@user-nm9uo5eo8p]

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[@rosco3516]

Please don't leave your fellow divers to fight and die. If your on PS5 use the mic but into your controller to call out disengage, most people will follow, on PC type out disengage. There's no excuse to not communicate in this day and age.

[@andohbernard8846]

Let me tell you as someone who helldives constantly. It's not that hard, don't be intimidated. You just gotta play smart and try to maintain control of situations. Great tips in this video, but it's no guide. Find what works for you.

[@netnooker]

"It isn't hard, you just gotta be good at the game" Woah

[@raniasaad8772]

should i stream? i run helldive and dont even die 90% of the time. maybe im just a loser

[@donerbacker6535]

consider yourself an opp if you need this video

[@ryanpost1446]

How to beat helldive. Stop listening to youtubers strategy and find what your good at, get better and keep trying til you win. Can tell ya how many useless team mates i get crawling across the map because "youtube said its meta" if youre one of the people who run from every enemy they see just delete the game.

[@trulsrohk1]

this applies to the "avoid all fights you don't have to take" advice to. Some people need to do that, but if your squad is competent enough it's not that much of a concern, only an issue if you have conflicting desires with that.

[@ryanpost1446]

@trulsrohk1 yeah I get we shouldn't shoot at every single patrol. But you have no idea how many games I played and I've been absolutely swarmed while doing main objective and when I die. I spectate my team mates crawling around the map. If you're gonna be prone and crawl from point A to point B go play pubg or cod. Helldivers is a HORDE SHOOTER. Shoot at the fkn hordes lol

[@kamikeserpentail3778]

That includes commenters who claim your useless for steal thing, when I'm solo destroying a jammer and 2 artillery, or 2 heavy bot bases. I'll stick with the team and blast through patrols or points of interest. But in my opinion that should involve either getting the right angle before attacking, or call ins that nuke the small bots quickly. So many are concerned about fighting 20 hulks, that they stopped bringing stratagem that can't kill heavies. But if my strafing run or cluster bomb kills all of the troopers, all that's left to worry about is that one or two hulks the entire rest of the team brought stuff to deal with. I like stealth it has nothing to do with "meta" But stealth also doesn't mean never killing anything, not to me.

[@ryanpost1446]

@kamikeserpentail3778 all I play is helldive. Never seen 20 hulks at once. Most I've seen is about 5 or 6. But to those who are useful on their own. Is completely different than the weirdos I've found who literally crawl around the map. On helldive I find maybe 3 or 4 out of every 10 games I get those team mates who do no more than exist. They finish a 40 minute mission with 40 kills, 90 shots fired. That kind of player is the one who's absolutely useless and should just play solo but know they cannot make it alone.

[@takh6806]

trash game. go back to OW2

[@thatoneguy1741]

lol

[@takh6806]

@@thatoneguy1741 lol from now until tomorrow. it's a PvE trash doesn't deserve my time.

[@takh6806]

@@thatoneguy1741 lol what? this game is PvE junk