Helldivers 2 - I tested the NEW MD-8 Gas Mines so you don't have to

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SwanyPlaysGames

SwanyPlaysGames

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@shadowwolf3419
@shadowwolf3419 14 күн бұрын
Mines are decent but not worth a stratagem slot. As a free stratagem, it's certainly useful for those defense or retreat situations. The DSS should include a stratagem we can vote to use for a free slot that rotates every 24 hours. Many stratagems can be useful with that free slot and make the DSS more involved in the Galactic war
@azakatura
@azakatura 14 күн бұрын
pretty much. they're ok, but i'm not going to be taking them over my normal loadout unless i feel like just screwing around. better launch than the airburst launcher tho lmao
@nurgle333
@nurgle333 14 күн бұрын
I want to roll a team of everyone has 1 or 2 mines, and the exploding hellpod perk. Use mines offensively instead of securing an area
@KlyosXA
@KlyosXA 14 күн бұрын
Honestly, there should be a Mine option in the Grenade slot. I want it to just be a Mine Strategem that only has 25% of the strategem version.
@bingbong8464
@bingbong8464 14 күн бұрын
Gotta be big brain to use mines
@gcdallas4172
@gcdallas4172 14 күн бұрын
Yes bro why can’t the devs just make the dss give u new exclusive stratagems instead of all this other bs that took 4 months to develop and does nothing
@bigbear7076
@bigbear7076 14 күн бұрын
I really like the mines. Not overly punishing to own team but does what you want, damage and slow
@r-saint
@r-saint 14 күн бұрын
Same.
@ryanlink8699
@ryanlink8699 14 күн бұрын
Sucks ass. Rather any say bring any other strategem
@blockedjuser1272
@blockedjuser1272 13 күн бұрын
@@ryanlink8699 Orbital smoke back on the menu bois.
@tarziq
@tarziq 9 күн бұрын
Your lack of creativity tells how much grey matter therre is ​@@ryanlink8699
@tarziq
@tarziq 9 күн бұрын
Your lack of creativity tells how much grey matter therre is ​@@ryanlink8699
@lordcola-3324
@lordcola-3324 14 күн бұрын
Just to prevent any miscommunication. 7:12: The gas effect does not stack. There can always only be at most one instance of the gas effect active on an enemy. If you continue to attack an enemy with any gas source they will still take the inherent damage from that attack, but they will not accumulate further stacks of the gas damage-over-time. And since gas weapons have very very low inherent damage you always wanna switch to a different, non-gas gun once the enemy is gased to finish them off. So diving with too many gas sources in your loadout is very ineffective.
@SwanyPlaysGames
@SwanyPlaysGames 14 күн бұрын
I guess I worded it incorrectly. I meant that with all the extra gas it essentially stacks the damage over time timer. If you hit something with gas (with the sterilizer for example) it will tick away at the enemy then fade away after a few seconds. If you hit them with multiple sources of gas and keep the gas cloud active then everything will just keep acting crazy for as long as the gas is active.
@MentalMittens
@MentalMittens 14 күн бұрын
100% true about the damage, but if you have lots of different gas sources you can keep an area gassed for a long time by staggering when you use them, or just gas a huge area at once, either way you can still get value from bringing multiple gas strats/equipment
@elliotnemeth
@elliotnemeth 14 күн бұрын
@@SwanyPlaysGames Accurate, IMO that's exactly why the sterilizer and dog breath need to be able to actually create gas clouds
@emorynox5395
@emorynox5395 14 күн бұрын
Gas also weakens enemies. Divers have really been sleeping on gas. It was never meant to be a main thing, but play a support role. It both confuses and weakens enimes. I was just talking to a friend a week ago about how I'd like an orbial gas barrage, as covering the whole field in gas would make things so much easier. This is a happy substitute. You throw them down and you don't really have to worry about anything from that direction for awhile. Its double plus amazing if you pair it with fire. A friend has taken to throwing down both gas and incenerary mines. That combo is LETHAL
@nurgle333
@nurgle333 14 күн бұрын
Orbital gas barrage is probably coming it's an easy thing for them to add
@elliotnemeth
@elliotnemeth 14 күн бұрын
I didn't even think about pairing it with incendiary mines, that'd be perfect because the confusion would likely increase their chances of stepping on additional mines
@Sh1ranu1
@Sh1ranu1 14 күн бұрын
@@nurgle333 eagle gas would be really funny as a crop duster animation
@iistonton
@iistonton 13 күн бұрын
Honestly this, lowering armor is massive. Gas + Primary is all you need. Tho mines are poopoo the dog breath and orbital strike (barrage when) are extremely supportive. Been having fun using them but I need MORE
@emorynox5395
@emorynox5395 13 күн бұрын
@@elliotnemeth you can also use them with the shock towers to some amazing effects
@arrowhawk6324
@arrowhawk6324 14 күн бұрын
Now we just need EMP mines to complete the lineup
@jaywerner8415
@jaywerner8415 14 күн бұрын
Yeah I was wondering why they gave us Gas mines before Stun Mines.
@ryanlink8699
@ryanlink8699 14 күн бұрын
Let’s not waste our life on more mines for the love of Helldivers. Give us stuff that’s actually useful
@northernhand9781
@northernhand9781 11 күн бұрын
Smoke mines
@roguerex292
@roguerex292 5 күн бұрын
What we need is a arc storm barrage
@brandonwilcox5438
@brandonwilcox5438 14 күн бұрын
Like most of these i LOVE the gas mines when they are free. When they will actually take up a strategem slot thats a HARD no
@nurgle333
@nurgle333 14 күн бұрын
We need something to make a 5th strat more often
@brandonwilcox5438
@brandonwilcox5438 14 күн бұрын
@@nurgle333 something like a space based super weapon that we spent months constructing?
@pehenry
@pehenry 14 күн бұрын
I'll never take mines in my loadout. But I didn't mind these. You cab survive with a stim and no need to dive to put you out.
@shizumeru_
@shizumeru_ 14 күн бұрын
It's a great disengagement tool as well. There were a few situations where I was being chased by about 50 light bugs, but there wasn't a reason to remain in the area and fight them. I threw the mines towards the next objective and ran past the stratagem beam, so it fell behind me and deployed all the mines a second or two after I ran past. Those enemies got caught up in the gas and lost track of me.
@SirPream
@SirPream 14 күн бұрын
One of my main beefs is the cooldown vs impact of any stratagem mine. They take forever to cooldown compared to other more flexible strats, and though they may cover an area like a chokepoint or lay waste to enemy bases/platoons, other stuff can do that and does it better. I'd rather AH make it so there is only one mine stratagem, and the mine switches its type based on the grenade carried by the player throwing the strat (gas/stun/impact/therm/smoke/etc). It'd make for some crazy loadouts, and it effectively reduces the amount of strats in terms of bloat by just having one mine strat.
@bingbong8464
@bingbong8464 14 күн бұрын
Mines would be B-A tier if they would just reduce the cooldown to slightly more than the MG sentry
@trentonhoyal9329
@trentonhoyal9329 14 күн бұрын
running four mine strategems with four helldivers is some of the most chaotic fun I've had in this game
@doccholo905
@doccholo905 13 күн бұрын
Some Helldivers just want to watch Worlds Burn XD
@AzureIV
@AzureIV 14 күн бұрын
The update to gas to give a smaller damage dot and added confusion made all the gas stuff one of the best crowd-control capabilities without instantly killing your allies.
@JK.Montague
@JK.Montague 14 күн бұрын
I've been playing gas loadouts for a few weeks now. Gas is really great. These mines have been fun too. I'll definitely be using them once they're permanent.
@King_Ekolin
@King_Ekolin 14 күн бұрын
After 450 hours i finally decided on my "main" build, gasdiver. Obviously i change my loadout to suit the situation but gas is extremely underrated. For example, bot jammers where you have to go in (no factory next to it). I just run in flinging gas grenades. Even if there's hulks they just either lockup or start shooting blind while i disable it easily
@Kizaru3314
@Kizaru3314 14 күн бұрын
Again, arrowhead are really bad at balancing. They simply don't understand the relationship between a stratagem that is strong but takes a long time to recover, versus a stratagem that is weak but can come back quickly. The mines have way too long a cool down time for how good they actually are. It's the kind of stratagem that is more fun to use the more often you get to use it. The cool down needs to be closer to 2 minutes, something akin to the commando, rather than 3 minutes. On the bright side, I am happy that with the gas mines, we are now able to go in with a full mines Loadout.
@Tamachii12
@Tamachii12 14 күн бұрын
TBH i'm glad they don't in this case, imagine if this stratagem had a lower cd, people spamming this everywhere annd you're suddenly in the middle of a minefield, you're reinforced in the middle of one.
@ilovedemocracyy
@ilovedemocracyy 14 күн бұрын
Mines are too mediorcre with long CD and it would be fair to give them 90s reload time. @Tamachii12 Even with current system people go mad toxic for somebody bringing up mines. Mine spots aren’t visible enough for the team and there have been annoying bugs which prevented you for ever even seeing them. Funny how they have been always better at killing divers than the enemy.
@AlterRequiem
@AlterRequiem 14 күн бұрын
I've been using gas nades + orbital and honestly you can just ignore half of the enemies in some of the objectives. It trivializes mega hives, just walk through your gas blowing up holes. This will easily replace the orbital in my loadout because you can use it preemptively. Wish we were getting it during this major order.
@iamkablam8096
@iamkablam8096 14 күн бұрын
I bring gas nades and the orbital gas strike almost every mission. These mines are gonna be a welcome addition to my load out. I do think they should shorten the cooldown for mines in general though. At the very least by 30 seconds.
@joshy3302
@joshy3302 14 күн бұрын
I tried it, it was alright, i probably won't see anyone using mines too often
@jakebeaty8556
@jakebeaty8556 14 күн бұрын
I don't think I'd take these over any other offensive stratagem normally but honestly they're not bad. They're great for stopping enemies in their tracks while you are retreating or holding the line in a defense mission. A-Tier in my opinion
@jonothanrennert3098
@jonothanrennert3098 14 күн бұрын
They are pretty good at what they do, it’s just what they do is a little more niche then what most players want
@floatedcloth9217
@floatedcloth9217 14 күн бұрын
Honestly if they buff the mines, something ill like to see is more specialized mines, like the fire mines being the fastest cooldown and being able to spread fire from enemies contacting each other (obviously dot would be low but should still be helpful), the gas being centralized but having higher dot than the fire, the base mines being just a stat increase (something like slightly faster cooldown or bigger expension radius) and the heavy mines should be something to help with tankier enemies
@floatedcloth9217
@floatedcloth9217 14 күн бұрын
I just had a great idea, what if instead of the mines blowing their load all at once, they instead have them to go off in bursts, this would make mines be more valuable by letting their dps be longer and a one in done thing
@bebopsynthguy6629
@bebopsynthguy6629 14 күн бұрын
It’s cool to watch you play with them. That’s good enough for me.
@YoungBison
@YoungBison 14 күн бұрын
Mines are actually not bad. The reason i don't use them is because in every defense style mission in which they would be useful, the map gets blasted by mortars. The mines don't survive teammates well. But i can't exactly complain about my randoms being effective
@northernhand9781
@northernhand9781 3 күн бұрын
Someone in the comments suggested making an arc storm barrage, now that is a cool idea. Like an Eagle deployed version of this would fly by and drop capsule looking things on nearby large units (and fabricators/warp ships? Wouldn’t work bugholes), which would then flower open and deal main hp pool damage on the large enemy it lands on/near and arc to smaller enemy units nearby. Since you say “barrage” this could be an orbital stratagem.
@matthewdemers7600
@matthewdemers7600 14 күн бұрын
I found them effective when deployed ahead of my intended direction while being pursued. The mines would halt any pursuing patrols fairly well allowing me to continue running without being chased or shot at
@25xxfrostxx
@25xxfrostxx 14 күн бұрын
Content basically stopped and a bunch of games released. I don't get why they do these orders with a higher than possible requirement that doesn't take population into account.
@therandomcommenter6629
@therandomcommenter6629 14 күн бұрын
Because that's not how liberation works there could be as little as 100 people playing the game and they would still be able to get major orders done why WHY? Because planet liberation is based on how much percent of the current player base is on that planet not raw numbers
@greypoint000
@greypoint000 13 күн бұрын
Always nice to see a fellow gassy bald king o7
@kristatum6688
@kristatum6688 14 күн бұрын
Gas and fire damage is insane Gas and fire mines completely lock down a breach or drop My team was annihilating diff 10 no deaths on bots and bugs with 2 people dropping fire and gas mines on enemies The only problem was it crashed the game with the mines and bodies stacking But my loadout was 500kg Fire and gas mines Machine gun Supply pack Cookout Gas grenades I stopped the enemies with gas there confused so they step on fire mines big damage to everything Cookout made them stay in the gas plus fire damage 500 kg got anything big like a titain And gas grenades help with patrols so i can shoot my cookout through the gas Machine gun helps keep up with pressure during cooldowns
@checkmate058
@checkmate058 14 күн бұрын
We need 6 stratagem slots. 2 of each color. 2 blue equipment, 2 defensive green types, 2 offensive red types. most people pick 2 blues and two reds, allowing 2 more for greens would only increase pick rate of things
@therandomcommenter6629
@therandomcommenter6629 14 күн бұрын
It's Because of gamer culture run and gun ain't got no time for defensive things like mine's mortars and Shields that's literally the only reason they don't take them because big boom booms and gun go pew pew
@Kintsugi9914
@Kintsugi9914 14 күн бұрын
The gas mines are the best for sure, but don't sleep on the AT mines. Whenever I use them on bugs they obliterate bile titans and behemoths that seem to come out of nowhere or when basically using them as a second grenade type. Last time I used them they destroyed two behemoths and a titan all at once doing the latter.
@psycho6199
@psycho6199 14 күн бұрын
For me the whole thing with the gas was that it was so small of an area to be effective to get for a stratagem, but now some like the gas mines are som that i would at least consider for crowd control.
@jewels3846
@jewels3846 13 күн бұрын
They should make a booster called lightfooted or something that makes walking on thw mines not detonate. Yes they are survivable but at least while free teammates keep throwing them in the worst places and has made for some frustrating albeit funny moments. I feel for those annoyed by the self detonation a booster for it is a good balance of you use your booster slot for it but doesnt remove the mechanic othwrwise
@alexknight2871
@alexknight2871 14 күн бұрын
Gas mines are the best of both gas and mines. Similar it EMS it sets up a time frame to help deal with large enemies. I've seen impalers attacking, from distance, all other enemies which is helpful.
@racmanov
@racmanov 14 күн бұрын
Main problem in the game: 90% of the planets are low visibility, constant post processing fog shit holes.
@ericcook8254
@ericcook8254 12 күн бұрын
Honestly with the amount of bots on helldiver difficulty being dropped off constantly ive found the free gas stratagem to be quite helpful.
@betweentwogrunts2442
@betweentwogrunts2442 13 күн бұрын
Gas mines saved my life on defense missions, completely decimated Automitons and would basically cut off a line of approach. Plus with the mortar, it would just trigger more mines to get rid of them faster
@Bringingmoneyback
@Bringingmoneyback 14 күн бұрын
Good man doing gods work
@elliotnemeth
@elliotnemeth 14 күн бұрын
9:50 gas mines on a defense mission gives a whole new meaning to "choke point"
@peridrawland5955
@peridrawland5955 14 күн бұрын
Regardless of efficiency, I'm looking forward to run an "Minefield Specialist" loadout
@PRINCEofNONE
@PRINCEofNONE 14 күн бұрын
I thought they patched the heavy armor negating gas damage?
@SwanyPlaysGames
@SwanyPlaysGames 14 күн бұрын
nope, still works as of me using it yesterday
@bluestar3144
@bluestar3144 13 күн бұрын
I like them, great at enemy disruption, kills smaller targets. However mines are not a great option still. I have a few changes that could make mines better. 1. Mines are immune to explosions. Only stepping on them or direct gunfire will set them off. 2. Slightly reduced cooldowns. 3. Larger explosion radius for anti personnel.
@buckchickens
@buckchickens 9 күн бұрын
already forgot by now that the illuminates came out yesterday… I was waiting for you to talk about the mine effectiveness for them 😂
@danielbob2628
@danielbob2628 14 күн бұрын
I like them. Might be useful when bots are chasing you across large open areas
@kylethering1773
@kylethering1773 12 күн бұрын
Love gas. Blinds, confuses, and stops enemies
@superspecky4eyes
@superspecky4eyes 12 күн бұрын
Gas is underrated in general, I think. Granted it's not meta by any means but it's not as useless as people make out. Plus it's fun. Personally I like to run Gas 'nades, gas backpack and pair that with Breaker Incendiary to stack DoT damage.
@itsthekweebeeway4814
@itsthekweebeeway4814 14 күн бұрын
All i'm waiting for is the SEAF trooper squad, even if they get mowed down in 30 seconds, I feel the chaos of it would be plenty enough reason.
@Aviator-Chicken
@Aviator-Chicken 14 күн бұрын
Maybe I’m being dramatic but this period of the game feels like it’s in the worst state it’s ever been. Sure weapons feel good, sure glitches aren’t game breaking but everything is so boring and stale. There’s no customization, no new maps or missions, no new weapons, and the storyline in general is so filler right now. I’m not saying we need the Illumainte tomorrow but I want them to have an event, colors for armor, or just something.. Anything…
@SwanyPlaysGames
@SwanyPlaysGames 14 күн бұрын
Yeah. I love this game but them not doing anything for a couple months really feels dull. I hope they've been cooking.
@TheLastMando08
@TheLastMando08 14 күн бұрын
They must be preparing for something big, probably the illuminate, feel like it’s time now.
@guusvandenmunckhof3137
@guusvandenmunckhof3137 14 күн бұрын
patience my child, they are cooking something.
@GoldFus1on
@GoldFus1on 14 күн бұрын
Maybe at the game awards they will drop a trailer
@darkjedi4z
@darkjedi4z 14 күн бұрын
never knew the heavy version of the gas armor nullifies all gas damage, that's awesome
@borntodostuf
@borntodostuf 14 күн бұрын
It doesnt. You can clearly even see it in the video. Its very small tick damage but it does not block all gas damage. There is both the red damage indicator on the sides of the screen and the healthbar is ticking downwards. Its just very minor, so it does make it viable to run through the gas.
@bingbong8464
@bingbong8464 14 күн бұрын
​@@borntodostufinsignificant amount of dmg tho
@Exshooter101
@Exshooter101 14 күн бұрын
@@borntodostuf it does, he takes 0 damage for the whole sequence at 6:15 and he's sitting in the middle of the gas cloud
@nelsonsham2368
@nelsonsham2368 14 күн бұрын
Heavy gas armor + vitality makes you immune to gas
@borntodostuf
@borntodostuf 13 күн бұрын
@@nelsonsham2368 That was a bug, it was fixed, you take damage now, its just very small :)
@AndrewOnYoutube
@AndrewOnYoutube 13 күн бұрын
I ran 4 mines one mission. It was pretty fun to fight until they rushed me, throw down a mine stratagem and jetpack away.
@ZandorJhayme
@ZandorJhayme 14 күн бұрын
I really want these mines ❤ definitely up my alley in terms of play style and having a thematic gas build
@jaywerner8415
@jaywerner8415 14 күн бұрын
SITREP: Esker 69.4% Mintoria 17.5% Blistica is still 0%. Mines are always a decent choice to consider bringing, particularly vs Terminids since they just press W toward you. Less so vs the Bots since they tend to move slowly and tend to keep their distance. (AT mines for killing Hulks and stuff not a bad idea) That said, Helldivers 2 is alot more "open" then Helldivers 1 was so, at times it feels like you wasted the mine drops or you accidently cut off your own escape route. That being said, I feel like they could change the pattern of the AP mines and Fire Mines "spread" so they don't CHAIN DETONATE each other. Its always annoying when 1 mine sets off like 5 mines at once. And sure they could give them a shorter cooldown, but that just means MORE MINES, which leads to more "accidental deaths" from all the helldivers who don't pay attention to where they are walking!
@AWARHERO
@AWARHERO 14 күн бұрын
Divers need to realize, Liberation is achieved faster by doing Trivial level mission then Hell Dive.
@bingbong8464
@bingbong8464 14 күн бұрын
Thought it was lvl 2's?
@aduckwithgrapes9572
@aduckwithgrapes9572 14 күн бұрын
Yeah but I generally like to play games with the goal of having fun
@gcdallas4172
@gcdallas4172 14 күн бұрын
Yeah I would rather play 9 or 10 and actually have fun…why would I grind trivial mission just to complete another pointless MO with no reward
@bingbong8464
@bingbong8464 14 күн бұрын
@gcdallas4172 no reward said the blind man
@quirinaled2752
@quirinaled2752 14 күн бұрын
People know that bit your not going to get me to waste an hour or two every day playing the game at difficulty levels I've never even looked at before just to advance a MO. Happy to play through my 8-9s and contribute but yeah I'm not going to play 2s to farm liberation points.
@TheCHEESEG
@TheCHEESEG 14 күн бұрын
I really wish they'd give us the option to detonate all of the mines ourselves manually too
@DreamD-n5n
@DreamD-n5n 14 күн бұрын
If the mo not complete, I hope they’re like the anti-tank mines that will get another opportunity to get them.
@hotpenguin607
@hotpenguin607 13 күн бұрын
Im actually rather displeased with the gas mines as a bot main. The gas mines are functional and they do exactly wut I expect them to do, I dont think AH under-delivered on this strategem itself I'd rate this strategem 4/10 for bots because it does serve as alternatives to some strategems in specific scenarios, and the area it can cover is actually quite big Honestly, I think the problem isn't with the gas mines itself, but how overtuned the bots are in certain aspects, so anything that is just functional simply wont cut it unless u are a knowledgeable veteran Some points I'd like to note: -One thing I dont like is that bots are constantly firing from behind the detonated gas mines, and the gas cloud is extremely thick it obscures whatever is shooting from behind the mine field. This is quite troublesome on open maps. -I can combo it with other strategems while the enemies are CCed, but orbital gas strike has a lower CD if im using it that way. -I thought of protecting sentries with gas mines by placing it in front of the sentries, but it doesnt do anything if the enemies are shooting from way behind the gas mines, and sentries dont need protection if u know place them correctly. -I like the fact it doesnt kill teammates instantly. It is better than anti personnel and incendiary mines in that regard. However, teammates who get ragdolled into the gas mines are still very likely to die.
@Simbobwayson
@Simbobwayson 14 күн бұрын
honestly going to be sad to see them go. i really am enjoying using them.
@zachgrim7416
@zachgrim7416 14 күн бұрын
Imagine an upgrade to the ship that allows 3 extra stratagem slots
@jagwam
@jagwam 14 күн бұрын
Now I wanna try out gas mines+tesla tower.
@collectiveleak
@collectiveleak 14 күн бұрын
Whoopee. More mines.
@BIGmlems
@BIGmlems 13 күн бұрын
took a break so i could finish beating monster hunter worlds in preparation for monster hunter wilds, plus some of my friends picked up chivalry 2 for like 10$ so we've been jamming to that mess like a casual walking through the London streets at night.
@lillyraisin
@lillyraisin 14 күн бұрын
I really hope that we get these
@MTW5587
@MTW5587 14 күн бұрын
what squishy teal thingy are you squishing at the start of the video? 😂🎉🎉🎉
@guardiantko3220
@guardiantko3220 13 күн бұрын
I miss old gas. Basically acid and always cleared everything while providing visual cover. Current gas sucks just use smoke at that point
@Fluffymascot1234
@Fluffymascot1234 14 күн бұрын
Stuff like this is a lot more useful if you have a squad of dedicated roles. For a support type player these are great but that’s just not how most people play the game
@MrWeeseAChine
@MrWeeseAChine 14 күн бұрын
If they could actually work on something cool instead of something the community doesn't give two flips about that would be nice.
@fauxnoob4157
@fauxnoob4157 14 күн бұрын
If we compare mines to other area denial stratagems: orbit gas, napalm, Gatling etc. mines get less effective the more guys they hit where other area denials do not. Gas mines have enough of a lingering effect I would use it to hold a position on certain objectives. I would bring it on a spread democracy or geo survey mission.
@Zertemis
@Zertemis 14 күн бұрын
They need to make them stronger and deployed like helldivers 1. You had 10 times you could use them and 3 separate clusters before they got replaced.
@frank-b6169
@frank-b6169 14 күн бұрын
Good to know. God bless y’all
@HMKfilms360
@HMKfilms360 14 күн бұрын
I love the gas mines on high difficulty
@nicbarrax76
@nicbarrax76 14 күн бұрын
I love the color they make. That's my take on them. 😂
@DawgAC
@DawgAC 14 күн бұрын
Mines still need a hard rework IMO. They just simply aren't as effective as any of the other sentries that they are listed next to. I really think they either need to not explode when we walk over them so that we can more easily be the bait that gets mobs to move towards them and die. Or they need the ability to aggro like sentries do. Maybe the cardboard coat out from training tutorial pops up and makes noise drawing them in or something like that. I'm open to other suggestions as well I really hope they do something to make em worth taking cause i would not be supprised if they have the lowest pick rate out of any of the other strategems.
@therandomcommenter6629
@therandomcommenter6629 14 күн бұрын
Maybe Try actually positioning them properly like in choke points or how about in a direction you want complete area denial over if people would start using them like actual minefields and Less like orbital cannons they would work perfectly fine heck maybe there's literally no enemies around you and you plop down a minefield minutes beforehand because you know they're going to show up there defensive strategems use them for defence and the walking over them and exploding problem is literally a skill issue more specifically the skill that people are having issue with is called situational awareness or perhaps the maybe the skill issue is actually not being able to communicate tell and or hear the words "I'm placing down a minefield at x location"
@DawgAC
@DawgAC 13 күн бұрын
@@therandomcommenter6629 I think your interpreting my comment incorrectly. I didn't say that mines are ineffective. I said mines aren't as effective as turrets by a wide margin. You say use it to lock down a path way on a defensive mission. Rocket sentry will always be the best thing to bring on one of those missions and net you more kills then the mines. I'm not suggesting we can walk over them because skill issue I'm asking for that cause we need a way to lure them to the mines once a large path way in them has opened up and now a good portion of them are now just sitting there doing nothing. Proper positioning and planning is very important I do agree with you there. However as things are now tesla tower does a better job then mines on bots. That's with the Tesla Tower getting out ranged in many instances too.
@therandomcommenter6629
@therandomcommenter6629 13 күн бұрын
@@DawgAC you know what I'll unironically take the L I genuinely thought you were just taking the piss and you proved me dead wrong though I will say more kills are meaningless it's about what makes the mission get completed easiest that's why the gas mechanics were interesting as for getting a way to become immune to the mines I could see either an armour passive or perhaps a ship upgrade allowing the mine to 'detect' a helldiver and temporarily deactivate but the reality is not only is helldivers a staple in friendly fire but literally the entirety of arrowhead is it's kind of one of their gimmicks so it will be there in some form
@SirAwesome5auce
@SirAwesome5auce 13 күн бұрын
I just want a 5th strat slot all the time feels so much better
@estreet83
@estreet83 14 күн бұрын
Nice NeeDoh Nice Cube you have there.
@bathin7941
@bathin7941 8 күн бұрын
Havent played this game in a long time. seems i have to get back in again.
@danhill99
@danhill99 14 күн бұрын
I think all the mines desperately need a cooldown reduction or something- turrets are objectively a LOT stronger so far
@tommygun4752
@tommygun4752 14 күн бұрын
I really enjoy using the gas mines
@taitcarrillo8926
@taitcarrillo8926 12 күн бұрын
Gas builds are great in this game. This game is a kiting simulator and the gas helps so much with that. If you think gas sucks play super helldive solo.
@Fukemaru
@Fukemaru 14 күн бұрын
I think another point not made about why these are the best mines When yourself or a teammate detonates one by mistake, the friendly fire will only cost you 1 Stim, (if not wearing gas resistant armour) you have plenty of time to Stim yourself & continue on with the fight.
@Chezzwinks
@Chezzwinks 14 күн бұрын
I have been pairing it with the machine gun and getting 350+ games on bots.
@TerrorBeast96
@TerrorBeast96 13 күн бұрын
I will just say this: Gas mines + bayonet charge
@enviousdisaster3280
@enviousdisaster3280 13 күн бұрын
If people don't like mines then it's definitely a skill issue! Gas and lasers! are super effective.Because you get the burn damage on them too!
@qwertyq2884
@qwertyq2884 14 күн бұрын
I don't understand why anyone would take these over standard Gas Strike. The problem with Gas Mines is a problem a lot of stratagems have in this game, why take a worse version of something that already exists? It has no identity
@therandomcommenter6629
@therandomcommenter6629 14 күн бұрын
Bro when you throw down gas strike it immediately explodes making a gas cloud that does it's thing and then it's done when you throw down gas mines the mines get set up but they don't immediately explode you can place them down and you know use them like a actual minefield it's called area denial heck you could even do it beforehand and lead the enemy into a trap or block off a choke point not to mention the gas mines specifically end up delaying the enemy way longer because of how many times they can set off explosions one after the other making new gas clouds mine's suck because nobody uses their brain and actually uses mine's like Mine's
@matthewsteele99
@matthewsteele99 13 күн бұрын
different playstyle, gas strike is to shut down an immediate attack and gas mines to create a barrier that can be used to defend a path since mines are permanent until they explode
@Multistan85
@Multistan85 14 күн бұрын
DSS should provide one free slot for certain stratagems.
@A3MServices
@A3MServices 14 күн бұрын
Gas minrs still glitching, is having the same bug whrere you step on them where there is no mine, test it, you will see.
@warp00009
@warp00009 14 күн бұрын
Hate it when anyone on my team starts throwing mine fields around willy-nilly, cause they are more likely to kill me and the rest of the team than they are to do anything much to the enemies. Because Helldivers2 doesn't have a color-blind mode (pretty stupid in 2024, when 15% of the male population is color-blind), and you can't distinguish the gas in the air from smoke - they're a bad idea except for the very limited and specific situations that you described.
@MegaEssj408
@MegaEssj408 13 күн бұрын
These mines however, wont kill you instantly if you trigger them, so i actually throw them around close quarters or choke points
@Smurffies
@Smurffies 13 күн бұрын
I would love some POE2 beginner guides. I never really played one other than a handful of hours. And I'm trying to figure out POE 2. Currently I have the fun glitch where I can't identify anything So yeah..
@ryanlink8699
@ryanlink8699 14 күн бұрын
As someone who has 400 in game hours in. They fucking suck. I’d never take those over any other strategem ever.
@greenbeetless
@greenbeetless 14 күн бұрын
I like the mines, but you have to be equipped for the mines. I did so much collateral damage to my team with them.
@Antonio-yp3tj
@Antonio-yp3tj 14 күн бұрын
I love them. Team mates get mad at me for using it in a perfect spot infront of patrols in chokepoints. Team mates run through minefield and die because thet want to lose their advantage and formation (cant think of any other reason)? Get gassed and mad. Like uhhh cry abt it. 1. Dont get close to minefields. 2. Dont step on the bright neon green circle.
@empitreee
@empitreee 14 күн бұрын
They def need to lower the cooldown imo. If that happens I would run a full mine loadout lol
@StarLordX448
@StarLordX448 13 күн бұрын
Just use the 120mm barrage and/or eagle gas strike.
@TruePrinceagl
@TruePrinceagl 14 күн бұрын
My last match I literally kept getting by the mines
@majorastorm
@majorastorm 14 күн бұрын
It'd be cool if we had more stratagems per match.
@bh0llar702
@bh0llar702 14 күн бұрын
They're ok but but could care less
@hbfd819
@hbfd819 14 күн бұрын
Love this game but it's sooooo tired. Need new missions and not the variations of the same.
@tobiasrex8052
@tobiasrex8052 14 күн бұрын
Yeah, in my opinion, im not exactly excited for the gas mines. Idc how good they are, i want some new support weapons to use, similar to how we got both the quasar cannon & HMG together. Things are stale out here now.
@fiesesalien
@fiesesalien 14 күн бұрын
Can't play it anymore. Started with 40 fps, down to 30 and nowadays i am on 20 - 30. Yeah. I like mines. All of them. Stay crunchy.
@miguelfigueroa5659
@miguelfigueroa5659 14 күн бұрын
Ive been throwing the gass mines folowed by ether a sentry or a 500k
@therandomcommenter6629
@therandomcommenter6629 14 күн бұрын
The hate mines get is completely unfounded they just want a support weapon because *gun make bang* and that makes gamer happy mines just don't fit the average shooter gamers play Style *cough cough run and gun* it's a defensive strategem for defensive plays it works wonders in the defence missions especially the nuclear silo and when baiting enemies into an ambush or covering a retreat or even just holding down a position through area denial to take the heat off the rest of the squad people somehow accidentally stepping on them reveals nothing more than the average players incompetence and lack of situational awareness nothing more "but...but- 🤓" *THEY FUCKING GLOW! What do you mean you can't see them*
@stormy9196
@stormy9196 14 күн бұрын
i like them but the cd is to long for what they do, needs like 60 or 80 sec cd
@pumaluna4065
@pumaluna4065 10 күн бұрын
Iluminados. Ahora.
@jackball344
@jackball344 14 күн бұрын
Cooking something? People been saying that for months. It’s charcoal at this point.
@bingbong8464
@bingbong8464 14 күн бұрын
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