Helldivers 2 - I Unlocked and Tested EVERY New Weapon in the Cutting Edge Warbond

The New Helldivers 2 Warbond just released and I unlocked and tested every new weapon!
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0:00 - Intro
0:50 - Las- 16 Sickle
3:16 - SG-8P Punisher Plasma
6:12 - Las- 7 Dagger Pistol
7:45 - G-23 Stun Grenade
10:15 - ARC-12 Blitzer
14:08 - Outro
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Helldivers 2 is a third-person shooter developed by Arrowhead Game Studios and published by Sony Interactive Entertainment. The game is the sequel to 2015's Helldivers, which was a top-down shooter. It released for PlayStation 5 and Windows on 8 February 2024.
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[@SwanyPlaysGames]

I've got like 4 hours of sleep the past 2 days to get this video out so I hope you all enjoy it. Let me know which of the new weapons if your favorite down in the comments! ➡Latest Patch Notes - store.steampowered.com/news/app/553850/view/4113546867256852245?l=english ➡Join My Discord - discord.gg/jRV9RJfqDX ➡Follow me on Twitch - www.twitch.tv/swanyplaysgameslive ➡Subscribe to SwanyPlaysGames - www.youtube.com/@SwanyPlaysGames?sub_confirmation=1 ➡Subscribe to SwanyRants (My 2nd Channel) - kzbin.info/door/PszGeh4gAG2oet_bufYGgQ ➡Follow me on Twitter - twitter.com/SwanyPlaysGames ═════════ Timestamps ════════ 0:00 - Intro 0:50 - Las- 16 Sickle 3:16 - SG-8P Punisher Plasma 6:12 - Las- 7 Dagger Pistol 7:45 - G-23 Stun Grenade 10:15 - ARC-12 Blitzer 14:08 - Outro

[@bobertastic6541]

-scythe -dagger -las cannon -rover -orbital laser BECOME THE HAMMER OF DAWN

[@dolamrothknight]

go to bed. weirdo

[@AzureIV]

Hey @SwanyPlaysGames - The weakspot of the Chargers is the back of the front legs, not the butt. Also, they recently made the head of the Chargers another weakspot.

[@chuy3840]

Sg-8p can kill the walker bots with one hit thats why I use it and it has like 10 magazines. Its fun trying to arc the shot as well. I didnt realize that 250 was tha cap for medals.

[@jebhank1620]

Respect hope pushing urself like that pays off, don’t do it too much mate

[@cuuurlyfries5246]

The sickle + the dagger + jump pack + flamethrower = Boba Fett load out. I am grinding for medals rn, I NEED this!

[@ultramutt3645]

There will be a flame pistol down the road, so you can use an eat also.

[@LethalOwl]

Having tried the Dagger (LAS pistol), I can safely say it will not give you the experience you seek. It’s incredibly weak, but has the perk of unlimited ammo if you don’t overheat it.

[@afficiopedal4325]

the dagger is pure trash as of now

[@lucienwmoon]

What a great idea. I'll be grinding for this for sure.

[@CrizzyEyes]

I'm blown away that this uploader wants to use the Dagger over the machine pistol or even the other 2 pistols

[@wotwott2319]

Sickle my beloved.. for those who didnt know, the Sickle is a returning weapon from the first game, the way it used to work is practically the same, but on the first game, the rate of fire is a lot slower, it overheats faster, and has no spool up time. In the first game, the Sickle was practically meta just because you didn't have to reload it as long as you're careful which gives you a huge advantage in attrition. the Scythe wasn't as good because while it focuses on damage over time, the Sickle does a higher flat damage per shot, giving it more dps than the Scythe in short bursts. the new Sickle is a pretty huge improvement over the old one, however the old one did have a much punchier bass on each shot, which is the one disappointing thing about it.

[@Balambambuny]

My main weapon in the first game. My only problem with this new version is that it sounds like a normal firearm. I wanted my pew-pew-pew. Oh, well...

[@Spectacular_Insanity]

The new sickle is mid. I hate the wind-up time before it fires.

[@iankmak]

The main difference between the first game and second is you need to bring your own ammo call down in the first. The sickle allowed no ammo builds with just orbitals and airstrikes. The main reason the sickle is better is because it has a faster turn rate than the scythe on top of the higher damage. No need to hold down the scythe and spray down a bunch of stuff you don't want to spray just so you don't have to deal with the spin up time. The sickle solved all that

[@DavidSmith-mt7tb]

It was pretty meta, unless you are good at positioning and judging distance, then the tanto was an absolute beast. Nothing like cutting bugs down with a giant freaking lightsaber. Hoping the dagger isn't a substitute to the tanto in 2. Maybe it will make it in whenever the trident does.

[@maryceleste_aghost]

Currently most of high lv players in helldivers 1 use Las-13 Trident. Because it shotgun with unlimited range and ammo, even rate of fire worse than Las-16 sickle but shot 6 pellet

[@LukaRaphael]

arc blitzer having unlimited ammo with a pump, reminds me of those survival flashlights that you rev up a motor to charge lol

[@vincentdeluca4485]

Yeah I love that its a pump shotgun lol

[@PonsterMenis98]

Metro flashlight charger lol

[@robertmachin364]

stung grenade seems amazing with autocannon. the autocannon can solve all the stuff an explosive grenade usually does (bug holes, factories, killing spewers), and it will be very easy to kill a stunned charger with an autocannon.

[@dominuslogik484]

The AC is definitely the most middle of the road all around functional weapon in the game, and stun grenades on a charger will also allow the AC to break the leg armor by shooting the back of the leg and then killing the charger with a single shot to the broken armor spot.

[@jstar3382]

Punisher plasma really highlights the issue with "use cases" If it has a specific use, cool. But what about EVERY OTHER SITUATION. If its dead weight 80% of the time, it's just dead weight

[@sincere35s93]

If you listen it sounds exactly like the machine gun 😎

[@fankgaming7753]

I guess that's what a team is for

[@JM-db8ez]

You mean, like EAT? Fun part is you don't go into battle with just 1 weapon so you can take a "use case" weapon along and not be hindered because you have other weapon slots to fill the gap. It's a "kit" not a single item scenario. Use your primary, your secondary, support, grenades, stratagems---it's all a package. Understood if a weapon is just underwhelming, but saying 'use case limitation' isn't really a big deal since you always have more than 1 option at your disposal. You're not going to settle on one kit (loadout) and just run variety of missions without making adjustments. Always take gear to suit the missions parameters. Ultimately your criticism doesn't really seem all that meaningful.

[@jeff3221]

​@JM-db8ez Quick question: what do you think the word *primary* means?

[@aeririahelmold]

@@JM-db8ez It's different with a primary since it's the gun you fire with the majority of the time and it has too many downsides for the few positives it has.

[@Duranous.]

Thanks for an actual review, unlike the warbond page showcase that is every other cutting edge video right now.

[@SwanyPlaysGames]

I saw some of that. A lot of clickbait going on.

[@Cheesemonkey2889]

@@SwanyPlaysGamesthanks for making decent helldivers 2 content in this ocean of clickbait

[@corybrown2197]

“This is the one I’m probably going to be sticking with” *fails to kill a hunter* The best pistol has always been and still is the machine pistol. And this footage has proven it to me.

[@SuperCatacata]

It's not even close IMO. It shoots fast and has double/triple the DPS of every other sidearm. Funnily enough the machine pistol also has like twice the DPS of the arc Blitzer shotgun.

[@snoweh1]

Who are you going to trust, him or your lying eyes?

[@joaopedroalves6777]

the machine pistol is gonna get nerfed

[@TheFlyingslug]

For all the DPS the machine pistol has, it has some pretty pitiful ammo reserves. I've managed to, at most, kill four, maybe five Scavengers with a single magazine, and that's not particularly great when you have dozens of small bugs to have to cut down afterward. There is something to be said for the superior reserve capacity of the other sidearms, even if they aren't as good at killing things fast.

[@spinnirack3645]

​@@TheFlyingslugif you set the machine pistol to semi auto you have a straight upgrade to the basic pistol

[@Delay467]

For the lightning shotgun, you have to shoot around whatever your trying to hit, like on the deviators you have to aim above the head so it arcs through the head.

[@SuperCatacata]

You mean attempt to shoot around whatever you are trying to hit. The chances of it working are still not even close to guaranteed every shot.

[@yulfine1688]

just bad against bots on higher difficulties you won't get much of a chance to use it... the punisher and slugger are just better still,

[@SeudXe]

Or just used to slugger and one tap them in the head instead of trying to dance around your aim with the blitzer

[@DakkaSap]

seems like nothing is being playtested and its just being thrown at the wall they cranked up the difficulty so they could sell us a warbond that doesn't adequately address they problems they caused

[@Chilloveque]

Plasma punisher looks like it really need a projective hitbox increase. Also found to often go between bot's arms or legs when it feels like it should be hitting based on the visual. That inconsistency feels like it's holding it back quite a bit.

[@ciphe5391]

honestly even without that i feel like the splash radius/damage could be a tad bit better, generally for small bugs its fine but ive shot it into crowds of hive guards and it kinda becomes just killing one at a time it feels like. Either way im quite enjoying the puni plas

[@coliax8754]

They could also make it able to destroy bug holes or robot factorys. That would make this weapon from a trash weapon to a utility weapon

[@grannde_]

It needs a damage buff and shouldn’t insta kill you it should be like 2 shot especially if it doesn’t even one tap hunters direct impact

[@munchkingod6]

My other beef is that the bust travels VERY slowly and has such an anemic range. I couldn’t shake the feeling I’d been stuck with a joke gun that suffered from acute projective dysfunction under pressure. Damn thing needs some little blue diodes if you know what I’m saying.

[@nordfald3740]

Damage is dogshit, simple as. 2 liberator rounds deal more damage than a slow-moving explosive ball of plasma? Huge cap

[@cutegamerboy]

Keep in mind, energy weapons are affected by environmental effects like heat so pay attention to the conditions of the planet you’re going to. On hot planets your heat builds up faster, not sure on cooldown… final answer lol Edited for wording and clarification. Good luck out there Helldivers

[@TheDragonfriday]

Cool features I didn't know it effect the weapon

[@jonathanphillips3052]

@@TheDragonfriday A sickle on a hot world- heats up faster than an assault rifle and is less effective. A Sickle on a cold world- heats up slower and as such is more managable to keep up the fire pressure.

[@IceBloo]

You’re referring to heat weapons not energy weapons. The scorcher is an energy weapon that is not affected by environmental effects like heat.

[@user-wz1hx2vx5e]

It's actually the cooling rate, not the heat buildup. You get the same amount of shots before overheat no matter what planet you are on, it just cools faster on cold planets and cools slower on hot planets.

[@cd8086]

Sickle strong on cold planets, decent on regular, and struggles on hot planets (helldive)

[@user-ub1tp3hg4i]

the Slugger has been my favorite weapon up until now. It may say "Light Armor" but I'm 99% sure its Medium Armor piecing lol but maybe something will finally take its place for me

[@iankmak]

Armor is weird. I'm pretty sure there is more than 3 types of armor (light, medium, heavy). There is likely 2-3 digits of value for armor and 2-3 digits for armor penetration. The punisher sucks at shooting Brood Commanders. The Slugger seemingly goes right through. The revolver is better than the Punisher but worse than the Slugger. The sickle also penetrates Brood Commanders but not Hive Guards. The liberator can't penetrate any of these things. Red hit markers mean full damage. White means reduced. The Slugger can still penetrate medium armor but it's reduced. Still a freaking lot because it's a Slugger.

[@ZzVinniezZ]

the description of slugger said "punch big hole in big target" but classified as light armored but in reality it can punch through medium armor....it like design team and weapon balance team did not communicate well

[@Sir-Raph]

Ya it wouldn't be the only guns that have medium AP despite only being described as Light AP. DMRs as well are meant to have Medium Armor Penetration.

[@formdoggie5]

Armor also has an angle of impact modifier, which means good shots yeild better results. Its very much like most tank games.

[@louiesatterwhite3885]

​@@Sir-Raphthe senator also has medium armor pen despite only saying light

[@ROFLWAFFLELAWL4]

I wish the plasma at least had that EM effect to stun enemies for a bit. That alone would make it such a great utility tool even if it doesn't do much damage itself.

[@gecko2.617]

or atleast not that awefull aim and precision it has right now... It feels like a watered down version of the grenade launcher at the moment to me...

[@dominuslogik484]

@@gecko2.617 I think something that would be a huge change for it without making it function differently would just be expanding the hitbox of the projectile to at least the size of the visual part. just make it a bit larger than a softball

[@tressil3607]

@@gecko2.617 this is my impression which makes it a weird primary

[@gecko2.617]

@@dominuslogik484 exactly!

[@itshanhan1]

@@gecko2.617It basically is the grenade launcher but worse. Good against bile spewers, nursing spiders and everything that has partial armor, but completely useless for everything else the normal grenade launcher excels at.

[@mrhaast5053]

Interesting that you say you liked the sound of the sickle, I think it sounds like a generic ballistic weapon and was kinda disappointed that it didn't have a laser sound like the automaton weapons or scythe.

[@dalekmasterblaster585]

It's not firing a focused laser. Instead just tiny bolts of light.

[@mrhaast5053]

@@dalekmasterblaster585 I understand that but it still sounds like a generic ballistic weapon and doesn't stand out from the others.

[@SithLoveChild]

momentary laser "beams" would probably have a pop or snap as it super heats the air. The devs probably got this right but I want pew pew lasers lol

[@lowfpsman1483]

It is the same sound of a liberator =_=

[@lowfpsman1483]

​@@dalekmasterblaster585automaton weapons the same

[@rz3264]

That stun grenade really completed my autocannon, i can close bugholes&factory, destroy some objectives from faraway, kill charger&hulk easily. It's really fun to be an all-rounder.

[@timbarnes28]

those stun grenades paired with the spear!!!!! holy shit lets go.....

[@UnknownSquid]

Oh you're right. It must be amazing against Hulks as an Autocannon user, since normally the only problem the autocannon has with them is trying to hit that eye as it's swings around. If we can just stop them to take a calm shot, then that's a perfect combo. Would also work for the anti-material rifle. I need to test it with the Laser Cannon too. Have been wanting to know if it pens the eye (since it can the legs).

[@UnknownSquid]

@@timbarnes28 Hmm? Why the Spear? The Spear best used at range. I guess it'd make it easier to lock on, but if you're within grenade range, then I'd imagine a Recoiless would be better suited.

[@rz3264]

@@UnknownSquidSome youtuber have already tested it and laser cannon can penetrate hulk eye.

[@TheMoriShow]

Stun grenade + flamethrower for me haha

[@jrod7929]

I think it's awesome that different primary weapons are better against certain enemy factions. Keeps the gameplay varied and interesting

[@vincentdeluca4485]

Yeah I have 0 issues with this, its how things should be imo

[@Xaiclun]

I quite like the idea that they introduce weapons that work better against one kind than the other of enemies. Makes you plan in advance instead of just always using the same equipment

[@sterlingmillhollon2520]

This is a yes and no for me. I love finding a great off meta utility build for every occasion in most games. Like playing your favorite guitar.

[@DrunkDjinn]

The blitzer is an interesting weapon. It horrible agains bots but destroys bugs. For one, it one shots most smaller guys. For two it stuns/knickknacks anything it doesn’t one shot for about .5-1 second. Because of its stun/knock back, stalkers become a breeze. Plus it’s got that oh so sweet infinite ammo. At the moment it is my favorite weapon for the quick run and gun build I use for most bug missions. Jet pack, EAT launcher, rail cannon and eagle air strike. Stay on the move while constantly spamming this thing behind to take care of little guys. When a charger shows up shove an EAT rocket in its face and say farewell. When a Titan shows up hit em with the railcanon and one of two EAT rockets to the face. Use the eagle airstrike for bug nests or taking the out herds of bile spewers. Using this build granted me my first ever solo level 9 no death run on bugs. Highly recommend checking it out.

[@Lycanion0]

The hitbox issue you had with the punsiher is a blanket problem with the bots currently in game with multiple weapons

[@WereScrib]

You notice it really bad with the AMR.

[@Akabane101]

Couldn't agree more on the sickle, new favourite. Definitely overheats a bit fast if held down too long or feathered too frequently. Might be interesting if we got a backpack that could make laser weapons overheat more slowly.

[@jacobrude5047]

Support item: "Case of Cold Ones" - A minifridge loaded with beverages of each Helldiver's choice, boosting morale by increasing stamina recovery rate for a short duration. /// Bonus Passive: "Built-in Coolant" All Laser weapons overheat half as quickly

[@midole103]

Play on cold planets to have slower heat build up on laser weapons

[@Kira-qc4qi]

I'll try it on a cold planet but I found the ramp up time a deal breaker during chaotic bug swarms

[@drunkbunny94]

Swap to your pistol or support weapon while it cools down. It takes a lot of shots to get it above 50% heat but once it's there it only takes a few to overheat, so if you can supplement it with another weapon you can then shoot it for longer. Pairs insanely well with the MG or laser cannon for killing medium fodder letting you kill whole hordes yourself if you can get someone to shoot the chargers for you.

[@Kira-qc4qi]

@@drunkbunny94 yea that hot swapping definitely sounds like a technique that will take a bit to learn but pay off. Thanks for the tip

[@rolder50]

Even if you ignore the heat, the thing has comparable "ammo" to other weapons in it's class.

[@goombatsperagallo7459]

I swear it’s like everyone is rushing to get this gun nerfed

[@ainslotic2028]

Because the gun is op​@@goombatsperagallo7459

[@willo1345]

@@goombatsperagallo7459 Yep, its definitely going to get nerfed lol

[@gangsterguardsman4576]

I hope they just lower the heat sink count, like if they cut 3-4 heat sinks we’d just have to be much more careful about not overheating it

[@willo1345]

@gangsterguardsman4576 That's exactly what me and some friends were saying. Make us only have 3 heatsinks. That way it will punish you if you don't manage the heat properly.

[@LaserTractor]

Sickle is a wake up call for "balancing team" or whoever does it with weapons. Really good balanced primary. Good dps, literally NO ONE IS ANGRY and it didn't make game "too easy". Everyone's happy. So what's the problem? YES, I'm looking at you, every other laser weapon

[@TheMantisLord50]

I would love a heavy laser weapon that isn’t just a solid boring beam but also not just an assault rifle with infinite ammo. Something where it fires a super powerful beam for a second and then stops and you have to wait for cooldown or reload

[@justinhalo3541]

​@@TheMantisLord50 like the Spartan Laser from Halo

[@njxwolverine2493]

It’s a laser+heat weapon so it could do with more armour penetration or even ignoring some armour… The way the devs have made enemy armour values deal with primary weapons don’t make any logical sense in this game

[@LaserTractor]

@@TheMantisLord50 yeah, killing time is what matters in this game. And especially with laser cannon that takes precious stratagem slot. Ammo? Everywhere on the field. Call backpack with ammo, call resupply Hell, ammo is everywhere!! Ammo conservation is not a problem. Holding boring laser beam on enemy not even knowing if it damages it - that's what boring is

[@myth5306]

Its super balanced since it does well on winter planets and it sucks on warm planets

[@geronimo5537]

If the Arc-12 actually arced through targets like it is suppose to. Then the short range and slow firing would be good trade off. But instead it does not arc only working on single targets most of the time. Sometimes it will split into two targets.

[@gotzn0name478]

It does arc, but not to the same degree as the arc thrower. It also stuns enemies.

[@SuperCatacata]

@@gotzn0name478 Every shotgun stuns enemies. The only difference is that the other ones kill those enemies quickly too.

[@gotzn0name478]

@SuperCatacata inc breaker, spray n pray dont stun. They're good at clearing small mobs, but kinda sux against medium. slugger punisher good against medium but kinda sux at clearing mobs. Breaker still best overall. Arc shotty has clearing power and cc, and cost no ammo

[@SuperCatacata]

@@gotzn0name478 Okay, but the other 3 shotguns do stun. And both of those drum mag shotguns clear mobs much faster than the arc shotgun since it shoots one arc per 2 seconds which is 1/10th the firerate of those 2 shotguns mentioned. Arc shotgun is just an arc thrower with less range, way less fire rate, 0 armor pen, and much less damage. It's not good in any category. I'd rather have a primary that excels at a single role instead of being bad at all of them. So I know what to use for my support weapon to cover that weakness. Guess what else is quite good at clearing mobs while also having unlimited ammo. It's in the same warbond. The Sickle lol. And it also has long range abilities unlike the Blitzer. Also you can actually choose to aim it at weakspots, so it's not worthless against bots.

[@nokturnallex2160]

It needs longer range honestly. Like 10 more meters and it'd be pretty decent. DPS-wise it's not winning any races, but I don't expect it to as it has unlimited ammo, but the range + low rate of fire kill it from being even viable in comparison to other primaries. (Only has like a 10 meter max range)

[@thesilliestgoose5990]

I love being able to Cosplay as a Tau Empire Fire Warrior with the new armor, laser rifle, orbital railcannon, railgun, laser pistol, guard dog rover, stun grenade, and a mech for good measure

[@TheIndigoEclipse]

And just like the Tau, your melee is still hot garbage ;)

[@gecko2.617]

@@TheIndigoEclipsedamn, was gonna say that until I saw your comment. It is sooo true xD

[@UnknownSquid]

Bit weak for a Pulse weapon though, isn't it? A Tau Pulse Rifle would be more like the Scorcher, except with a 100 round magazine and better armour pen.

[@M9Seradon]

Larping as a filthy Xeno that is ALSO a communist?! Have fun explaining yourself to the Commisar and the Democracy Officer

[@Lazarultos]

@@UnknownSquid Yeah I'd say Scorcher is more apt for a Fire Warrior cosplay. The Sickle feels more like an Imperial Lasgun than a Tau Rifle.

[@MikeyBro5728]

It makes perfect sense that an electric shotgun wouldn't work against the Bots... hear me out, an army that is wholly based on metal and electronic circuitry would probably have electrical resistance, hardening, or grounding baked into their manufacting process, as it creates considerable vulnerability to do otherwise, think of not making electric-car water resitant/proof.

[@Thesavagesouls]

No, because all the things you mentioned could probably work on electrical surge, not on an actual lighting direct hit.

[@TheDragonfriday]

Eh ever heard of electric discharge or overload?

[@MikeyBro5728]

@@TheDragonfriday yes, but a little gun with a small power pack probably couldn't produce a large enough voltage to take down a hardened system, aircraft today can get hit with lightning and fly just fine.

[@MikeyBro5728]

@@Thesavagesouls it was an oversimplified explanation to be sure, but a hardened system would definitely be able to resistance even a direct electrical attack, think modern day aircraft.

[@Anttown123]

Bro💀 thats not how electricity works

[@mrmeaty5619]

Yo the fact that the blitzer can stun multiple bots in one go is so good. He never pointed this out

[@iankmak]

The slugger and punisher can do it too. The slugger is probably still S tier since it can hit weak points against bots.

[@DummyThiccc]

yeah, but so can stun grenades. i wannan know if the punisher can take out bug holes or fabrictors

[@gotzn0name478]

​@@DummyThicccno it doesn't

[@SuperCatacata]

Both the punisher and slugger are better at stunlocking bots(While also killing them in less than 3 shots) Getting close enough to even use the Blitzer to stunlock enemies will get you killed on T7 or above. As far as I'm concerned, the Blitzer is the 3rd best "Unlimited ammo" weapon we got in this warbond.

[@mrmeaty5619]

@@SuperCatacata yea I know the slugger and punisher are better to stunlock enemy but you can't do multiple all at once, that's the whole reason I said that

[@lancsdragon2619]

I find a really cool reason to use the electricity weapons is that, at least on the terminus’s it’s just ignores armour, like you can just keep shooting a charger from any angle and you’ll kill it in no time, I find that the best reason to use them

[@nukedtwn]

"ran behind it and was able to unload in it's weakspot" bro😭😭😭

[@B-U-T-C-H-E-R]

I feel like fighting the terminids is the best part of this game. The bots can be a nice change, but I tend to enjoy fighting the bugs way more

[@TheMantisLord50]

Bugs are how the game was meant to be played. Bots are for masochists who really want to test their skill, being generally way harder

[@brandonlucaberry1090]

im the opposite in that regard... hate playing vs bugs... esp after the spawn rate patch... biotitans and chargers spawn like crazy on top of the small fry that went overboard... automatons seem balanced in a way, not affected.

[@bartell20j]

​@@TheMantisLord50wait until you see the next faction

[@B-U-T-C-H-E-R]

@@brandonlucaberry1090 Level 7 isn't too bad. Carry a rail cannon strike, arc thrower or mech. I like the armor that gives limb health, you take a lot of limb damage

[@TheMantisLord50]

@@bartell20j you’re right. The illuminate are probably going to be the fight for the masochists, and robots just for those who want more challenge

[@nitoenigma44]

With the Plasma, all you need is an Armor with explosion resistance, the projectiles become instable to longer they fly, increasing the AoE effect. Take is as a long range weapon, once you got the range finding down, it slaps.

[@SanityPotion776]

I think one thing you glossed over with the Blitzer that makes it an option is that is staggers like crazy. Any enemy hit by it will get staggered and give you breathing room. That allows you to somewhat keep a group of enemies at bay whilst doing damage to them.

[@ULTIMATZEKROM]

Really glad the Sickle ended up at the very least decent. That's the gun I was looking forward to the most in this warbond pack

[@Verbose_Mode]

I feel like the Dagger needs to do the same damage as the Scythe, but have half the heat capacity and the smaller reserve of sinks. It really just tickles things.

[@Yackattack22]

Yeah this guy is hyping it up a lot, the laser pistol is just a secondary to save ammo and that’s that.

[@remigusker6024]

The laser pistol with the ballistic shield is hilarious vs bots, provided you have allies to take care of heavies

[@Lupus._.]

The Blitzer-Dagger-Arcthrower-Jetpack-Patriot-Orbital Railgun combo is my main setup now. The arcthrower sucks against small bugs but is good with mid-sized ones and okay with the big guys. I use the Blitzer for the small bugs. The Dagger is for emergencies or for baiting bugs into a Hellbomb with its range. The Jetpack helps me move around and hop out of problematic scenes. In battles, I might use the Patriot/Orbital Railgun if necessary, but sometimes I switch it up with other Stratagems.

[@SuperCatacata]

You don't know how to use the arcthrower if you think it sucks against small bugs. It's actually better at it than the Blitzer because it has twice the fire rate when used properly. Not a single small bug should ever get close to you if you are spamming the arc thrower. Meanwhile it can also take out spewers and chargers. You are simply just role playing if you are using any of those other guns when equipped with the arc thrower. Because they all are absolutely not needed. And you are being less effective by ever using them instead of the Arc thrower. And like you said, if bugs do get close because you messed up your positioning... just use the jetpack to get away and keep blasting the arc thrower until they all die.

[@RuiNDieM1988]

​@@SuperCatacataagainst larger swarms the Arcthrower struggles. The arc only has a certain angle it can move at and the arcs aren't consistent. The closer things get to you the less effective it is. Covering this weakness with the Blitzer is 100% a good strategy

[@Lupus._.]

​@@SuperCatacata I've played a lot with the arcthrower, and I only die sometimes because of the masses of small bugs, especially the hunters. The arcthrower sometimes doesn't hit them because they are so fast. Yeah, I use the jetpack to get away, but you can't jump far enough to escape hunters. Also, the jetpack often collides with the bugs when you try to jump over them, and you don't move at all forward or backward. I mainly use the airtime in battle to stim, change weapon, or to reload/charge the weapon.

[@MrArmoredsniper]

Thanks for the showcase. This help me choose what to bring into battle

[@cgb1995]

Brother, thank you for taking the time to get actual footage, test the weapons and give us all a fair review. No insane negativity or over the top hype, just a fair assessment. I’m am so tired of slogging through clickbait videos everywhere. Awesome stuff, looking forward to more.

[@pitbullsensei179]

I use the blitzer shotgun with an arc thrower and a jump pack or shield pack against bugs.unlimited powaaaa!!!😂

[@Joker-TMF]

Same setup but I use guard dog laser so I don’t need shield because never got hit .

[@pitbullsensei179]

@@Joker-TMF dont forget to wear the grey 6 grenades armor,with the hooded helmet to realy look like a sith lord!😂😂😂

[@pingus9934]

That set up doesn't make any sense. A more better load out would be an EATS to deal with heavies, and the arc shotgun for bugs. You're literally unstoppable lol. (Although I haven't unlocked either so don't know yet )

[@BrosTheNugget]

Arc thrower doesnt one tap chargers, true, but it can kill them in 6 head shots. Its an awesome weapon, and burns through armor pretty well. 20 shots for a bile titan btw. Its a lot of fun to use, and provides just enough arcing lightning to deal with the massive chaff groups the game sends your way as well as large enemies. Never stop firing and your golden! ​@pingus9934

[@UnseenHitman-1932]

​@@pingus9934 What is an EATS?

[@liberty9348]

Thanks for your time testing and making this review. It's going to help me save SOME medals as I'm new to the game. Definitely gonna pick up the stun grenade and the energy main rifle. You typically can't just stand there and unload the whole machinegun mag and NEED to aggressively relocate, so the unlimited ammo as long as you don't overheat it sounds (and looked) really good. Cya on the next one.

[@MusictagJazz]

The LAS6 Sickle sounds like a game-changer! 🌟 Can't wait to try out this "unlimited ammo" beast. Thanks for the deep dive, Swanie!

[@ravennightingale1260]

wiping out hordes of terminid chaff is exactly what I was hoping for from the arc shotgun, excited to unlock and try this weapon

[@ZzVinniezZ]

except if there is body or terrain, the arc shotgun is completely useless as the arc refuse to hit enemies just like the arc thrower.

[@SuperCatacata]

He's overstating it. The regular liberator full auto does a better job at taking out small mobs. The only advantage the Blitzer has is "unlimited ammo" since it's fire rate can only shoot like one time per 2 seconds. But do you know what else just came out and has unlimited ammo? The Sickle. It also specializes in taking out hordes of chaff. With much better DPS.

[@S1ph3r]

Idk, I just used the sickle for a couple missions and I don’t really think it’s THAT good. Maybe I have a different play style though.

[@Boamere]

The blitzer is terrible

[@mrmeaty5619]

I bring stun grenade on bug hole missions. I just use a hundred other things to close the bug holes. Or my team mates do it. Eg, i use autocannon for instance which is way more efficient at closing them

[@nikajo__8755]

Appreciate the run down, that was helpful!

[@UnknownSquid]

I had a moment today where my buddy got utterly swarmed by bugs. Like, he was laying down unable to stand with basically a whole pile of bugs coming down on him from all angles. Normally you'd be straight up doomed in this situation, but I quickly tossed my stun grenade at him, and then just kept spamming them, even having to use a supply pack charge as more bugs arrived. Couldn't even see him under all the bugs, as our other two team mates eventually rushed over to help me blast the bugs off of him. He screamed SO much, but finally scrambled out of there alive (and probably severely concussed). Was awesome. xD

[@seerrees]

Took a shot for evertime he said Stun Grenade.... I am an alcoholic now

[@DannyMartin3z]

It’s interesting that in 2024 we had a release in live service games, Helldivers 2, and sci-fi film, Dune 2, that everyone is saying will change their respective genres. I hope it’s true I hope Hollywood and game developers/publishers take away the right lessons from those success stories.

[@MrDax13]

Probably not. But it would be great if they did.

[@lordginger636]

They won't but here's to hope and democracy

[@Ovedubstudios]

Dune is boring both the book and the movie. The only thing it's changing is my interest in it.

[@iankmak]

It will only change after the offending companies go bankrupt or at least their entire upper management and the roaches on the lower levels all get fired. I don't see any CEOs being laid off or management. They are too blind to restructure themselves. The only thing I do see is companies going bankrupt. You would have to wait for that.

[@kurtisdeakin]

Ha ha ha ha ha

[@michaelklog]

the shotgun with the autocannon stratagem seems like a nice combo. the cannon for the heavier units and then the shotgun for the light ones.

[@M1ndblast]

Cool thing about heatsink weapons is that they cool off even if you aren't wielding them. Which makes sense of course but it is still worth pointing out. When your sickle gets too hot just swap to another weapon. Which could of course be another energy weapon. Maybe the dagger or laser cannon. By the time that weapon heats up, swap back to the sickle. Instead of reloading you just cycle back and forth.

[@bluntlyhonest6803]

i mainly used the plasma shotgun as a cheap grenade launcher, so i wont have to bring the real one. i find it a lot better vs robots since it can blast down the walkers with a direct shot. having it as a grenade launcher means i can bring another support weapon with a lot of firepower to go. And it made me appreciate my sidearm a lot more too. Is it the best weapon ever? not a by a long shot. but it has its uses.

[@goldenindustries]

Does it work on bug holes and factories?

[@nateantidroid]

​@@goldenindustries nope

[@Anttown123]

@@nateantidroidthen its trash fr. If it could it would have had a purpose

[@kommi7658]

​@@Anttown123have you even used it? Its really good against the automatons so long as you have a decent support weapon as backup.

[@GameFuMaster]

grenade launcher implies AOE damage, which this weapon really lacks from watching the video

[@flakor8]

I think the plasma shotgun needs more range and/or a faster projectile speed. As for the blitzer, I think it just needs a slightly higher rate of fire

[@mechanicalsilence1]

For me the plasma shotgun should have a 0.5 sec delay before firing the round but deal more damage and in a bigger radius, maybe destroy bug holes and factories. The weapon has low ammo, you risk killing yourself at close range and it's hard to fire at long range, the tradeoff should be high damage at medium range.

[@iirainoverdawnii8279]

I feel like the Arc Blitzer is supposed to be used together with the Arc Thrower (who could've guessed). Arc thrower tends to be good at range but heavily struggle in close-quarters where it just starts hitting the floor instead or just straight up misses which is where you use the blitzer. And when it comes to heavy targets like chargers you use the arc thrower to deal with them.

[@goodvibesonly4229]

Yup same thought I'm having

[@alcatraz-nc2814]

Aight you convinced me to take the BP. The Blitzer seems to do exactly what I wanted it to do. The struggle against heavies like charger or bile titan isnt an issue because they can be dealt easily with stratagems.

[@anacreon212]

the thing is i feel like the arc thrower basically does the shot guns job but better. I think i would rather have the laser primary instead and just run an arc thrower

[@mrmeaty5619]

Dude the arc thrower is a support weapon. Stop comparing them to a separate tier weapon

[@alphaxedtw9357]

I could see myself running the arc shotgun with EAT support weapons to deal with chargers or anything i couldn't kill fast enough. Why suffer to kill heavies when you can just greet them with a rocket to the face and wipe entire waves of small targets with your primary anyway?

[@gizmo2477]

@@alphaxedtw9357 With the nerf to the charger's head, an arc thrower can kill a charger in 5 shots which is actually really quick.

[@draegonspawn5361]

But now you can run arc shotty as main, and bring a different support weapon. That is the draw to me on the blitzer.

[@UltimateTViptv]

@@gizmo2477 cant wait to try it with the stun nade lol

[@theeater3573]

Blitzer staggers so much i love it

[@samhan9677]

another thing with the arc blitzer is that it doesn't have the armor piercing that the normal arc thrower has. It also doesn't have the arcing to multiple targets after the first hit which would be kinda op

[@andersask5503]

Totally agree with the Sickle. It's a game changer. So on point and take out the bugs with just a few shots. I was pretty frustrated after the nerf of the Breaker. But no this is my go-to weapon combined with the new hand gun. You're a one man army.

[@LOLSpellsingerXD]

Having some primaries that have specific niche uses is a good thing, not a bad one. Evaluating primaries just by themselves, while disregarding the rest of the loadout, doesnt give you the full picture. Especially not in the case of more niche guns. The reason being is that we have various support weapons that take over the role of your primary, and will presumably get more in the future. For those kind of weapons, taking an all-rounder primary is redundant, whereas a more specialized tool that covers their shortcomings is preferable. A good example is the stalwart+slugger(for stalkers and armored bile spewers). This has better synergy than stalwart+breaker or stalwart+defender. That doesn't mean that the breaker and defender are bad, just that for this type of loadout a more specialized primary makes sense. The same is true for niche primaries. Now i'm not saying that the punisher plasma is any good, just that context matters. Evaluating guns purely by themselves in a game where we have loadouts doesn't work too well. On the same note, some guns are also specifically only good vs certain factions, and that should be taken into consideration a swell. Guns don't need to be good at all times to be viable.

[@nordfald3740]

Stalwart+slugger just leaves you with 2 slots that can only deal with chaff. That doesn't really fly in difficulty 9. Everything needs to serve a specific purpose and the stalwart serves none. Its effectively a primary taking up both a strat slot and your support weapon slot.

[@Can_O_Crayola]

@@nordfald3740 If we're just going to judge what works on Difficulty 9, then what's the point of caring about anything else? The game shouldn't be solely catering to people spamming Helldive.

[@yulfine1688]

@@Can_O_Crayola the problem is everything seems to be for tier 6 and under for balance.. on tier 7 now its more viable but the higher tiers people bitched about only using railgun and breaker and then they're nerfed and more difficult to manage along with the shield and then they had to nerf the amount of chargers and titans on 7-9 to compensate and yet bots are still near impossible to complete mission chains compared to bugs.. even on lower difficulties if its ones with devastators the missions become a nightmare because rocket devastators don't care about cover and the heavy devastators well they lock on and track so well its hard to even run cover to cover they will hit many times.. hulks aren't so bad usually but tanks are more annoying when you have 4-5 or 6 on you, 2 tanks is manageable 3 maybe but 4 and above become a nightmare due to the fast repeaters that melt you and the slow actual tank with the cannon just sort of blow you around in all directions which is just annoying to manage and they ignore cover pretty much entirely.. The issue is how they balance and its still really freaking bad, im glad bugs are a bit better it fits their style to have a ton of smaller bugs and spitters with less chargers and titans going after you until you move further into their territory which means they should have a greater number of heavy enemies for those worlds to be more protected, but bugs while annoying even before the changes and even after the weapon nerfs were still doable and the mechsuit really helped manage that but its really bad against bots... even defending against bots for objectives its bad.. the bots need some serious tuning not the bugs and so do the weapons to actually matter, there's still only a select few that are useful, there's no reason to player higher difficulty missions if the rewards are shit and you fail 80% of them then they're entirely useless, that is the problem. They have not a clue how to actually balance the game.. and it shows with the bots especially... and its why so few players even bother with bots..

[@L_U_C_1_F_E_R]

​@yulfine1688 facts, with how the weapons are rn its another excuse to just no play bots with how tanky they are, and people still have the balls to say automatons are easier than bugs

[@matiasnano1496]

I dont understand, how is the blitzer shotgun good for terminids when it took you 4 business days to kill 5 bugs?

[@ICECAPPEDSKY]

He’s lying off his ass because I’ve tried it. It is worse than pre-buff spray and pray. It literally can’t hurt anything above low tier medium armor. The Sickle and the Plasma punisher are pretty insane

[@Handonforehead]

Yeah it's garbage, don't know how he thinks it's good

[@RamikinHorde]

Bro is clueless, I don't know if he just plays easy difficulties or what but his opinions tend to be insane. He also praised the las pistol which is probably the worst secondary in the game lol, it's ttk is absolute pathetic

[@BossReflexx]

Arc blitzer is ok but not great, best use case is when stalkers and stuff start chasing you blind fire them. It will stun them and 8/10 of the times they will fly away before trying to push you again. But the damage from it is pretty shit. Overall sickle still best imo.

[@ShadyMaki]

In case you haven't noticed, the blitzer's arc shots show a "bounce" icon on chargers and titans

[@rsiv5156]

Thanks for this. So far I just have the sickle, and I also really like it.

[@DaxRaider]

one thing the back of a charger is NOT a weakspot!!! its lighter armored but no weakspot weakspot is the inner of the leg or if u remove armor

[@Aliivio1]

I was looking for this comment. It really annoys when people say that you have to shoot the chargers in the back. Yes, with most primary weapons I tend to shoot the tail but if the armor is broken on the legs then I go straight for them.

[@negativegaming1337]

it's the "weakest" part of the charger, since it has no armor. In the event that you're using a weapon with no armor penetration, and you don't have strategems with armor penetration available, then in that instance, the ass end of a Charger is the weak spot, for all intents and purposes.

[@Aliivio1]

@@negativegaming1337 yeah it is the least armored part in the chargers body but it still isn't a weak spot. The tail only takes 10% damage from weapons that don't deal explosive damage.

[@asacloutier7530]

The dagger is severely underwhelming as a Senator main. Hold onto your medals for cool style point armor, capes and helmets.

[@DJDace99]

1000% these new guns are objectively worse than base War Bond weapons

[@NeroV1L3]

​@@DJDace99 it was the same deal with the first premium warbond

[@DJDace99]

@@NeroV1L3 Completely agree. This is a JAR-5 Dominator situation all over again.

[@Edo_Ginting]

Arc Blitzer/Senator combination seems nice, shoot blitzer, switch to senator, repeat.

[@Boamere]

These devs are allergic to making to fun weapons. Only good one is the sickle and I’m sure that’ll be “corrected” soon

[@fooga8079]

First time coming across your channel. Really informative video and I'm looking forward to trying all these weapons. I'm also curious what your go-to weapon is for automatons? Is the sickle also good against them or would you prefer something else?

[@Xoilen]

The overheating is not bad at all on the sickle imo, on the majority of missions it's not going to overheat by the time you've used it to clear the hunters, and on defense missions like the event right now or exterminate missions 6 reloads is WAY more than enough, and if ammo is still an issue you can just bring supply pack or use a different gun for those missions specifically.

[@keldon_champion]

The Blitzer is amazing against the bugs and I think that makes it completely fine that it's terrible against bots. I would rather see different guns be better for different enemies than one OP gun for everything.

[@NoxMonstrum]

Seems like nothing works against the bots really. They're fucked.

[@sirfrancois8888]

I agree, tho I also think it would be so great if we had at least 5 loadouts we could choose between according to whether we are on bot or bug planets and if it's a blitz or defensive or eradicate mission..

[@sirfrancois8888]

​@NoxMonstrum scorcher is great for bots, terrible for buggies..

[@seanmurphy7350]

​@@NoxMonstrum The sickle and especially the scorcher are so good against bots

[@Cautionepicness]

i haven't used the ARC-12 yet but with the ARC thrower if you hit the chargers and the bile titans on the side it will break there armor making room to shoot it with bullets

[@nesssixteen6106]

Arc thrower also kills chargers with 6 shots to the head

[@LorDNurS]

@@nesssixteen6106or even oneshots, if you're lucky.

[@mwhighlander]

@@nesssixteen61065, now with the reduction to charger head health. Haven't tried the blitzer against the chargers yet to test how many shots. Big advantage it does have over the arc thrower is mobility. Sprinting back and forth between shots means you can move and dodge a lot of bugs.

[@nesssixteen6106]

@@mwhighlander I said 6 as of the time they did get their health changed, Takibo (helldivers CC) killed one with 6 shots right after that update.

[@flare6030]

I will never understand why some people will say something sounds really cool and then not proceed to show what it sounds like.

[@nightingale4632]

the punisher plasma was a big diasspointment for me too, it looks like a plasma grenade launcher, but feels like you're tickling your enemies with a feather

[@derhauptmann2359]

I just unlocked the sickle and tried a few Automaton Missions with it. I absolutely love this thing. Accurate as fuck, extremely high ammo count and very good Dps. If I compare it with the Liberator (which is actually very good and kinda slept on for being the first gun) it deals more damage, can fire longer, is more accurate and reloads in about the same time. Shooting up to 10 foot soldiers without letting go of the trigger is fucking awesome. The thing absolutely melts Berserkers, so that's great too. Off course sucks against Striders, Hulks and Tanks but that's what other weapons or Orbitals are for.

[@redcenturion88]

No it doesn't melt berserkers

[@thisdude9363]

@@redcenturion88 If you can aim and hit them in the face, yes it does. It also kills Devastators very quickly if you're accurate.

[@thenooksbook6662]

"Unload in it's weak spot" 😂

[@CrazyLikeUhFox]

“I circled around behind it to unload in its-“

[@somacringe9637]

The thing I’ve found about the arc 12 blitzer is that although it struggles with the bigger automatons damage wise, it does stun them pretty consistently, leaving your teammates open to hit weak spots easier.

[@Planterobeets]

The Sickle is kinda like a buffed Liberator. After the breaker nerf and heavies spawn rate i found the og liberator to be almost an S tier weapon to deal with hunters from more distance, was switching between the Punisher and Liberator for difficulty 9 which is crazy considering they’re the very first 2 weapons you can get.

[@waitingtoconnect]

Was hoping for a more laser bolt style sound from the laser rifle

[@iankmak]

Should have reused the sound files from HD1. Instead it sounds like an AR

[@CM-iz5ny]

Charger butts are not weak spots. Please helldivers dont be confused. Arms and head. Edit: I feel like everyone is confused what a weak spot is. It's the part of the mob that takes more damage per shot than anywhere else. Hope this helps confusion.

[@corybrown2197]

On the contrary it’s the only weak spot that doesn’t require you to break the armor. The head and legs are only weakness if you shed the armor, or just blow up the head. If you can’t do either, butt it is.

[@CM-iz5ny]

@corybrown2197 it's not a weak spot, full stop. It's not armored, which is what you're talking about. If you can't blow off his armor then you can't hit his weak spot.. officially😏

[@AnEnormousNerd]

Only if you have enough AP to actually get through arm/head armour. Otherwise, like if you're using a grenade launcher or autocannon, 3-4 shots to the butt is good.

[@dragonsin_meliodas3622]

A primary weopon to the butt kills a charger fairly quick. If your stratagems are on cooldown and you have no armor piercing available, shooting the butt is more than viable.

[@corybrown2197]

@@CM-iz5ny tf are you on about?

[@Wyrdwulf19]

I think the Blitzer may be a gun that Arrowhead designed to be the quintessential primary. They've said multiple times that they don't want to make a primary gun that does it all, that you're supposed to rely on stratagems to take down bigger targets. The Blitzer emphasizes that by being a solid crowd control weapon, taking down whole hoards of small fry with ease, while it may as well be a feather duster against anything with solid armor. It's reminding you to use your whole arsenal, not just your primary. Sure, having a gun double as a disciplinary tool may not necessarily be fun at first, but it might help train a player to help break the habit of holding onto your stratagems because of the fear of needing them while they're on cooldown.

[@laserbeto910]

Ive been rocking the liberator to level 50, and ngl it has a ton of uses against bugs. The one thing I noticed is that the Sickle has the exact same stats as the liberator but with unlimited ammo. Def my new favorite.

[@andythurman8713]

I feel the Punisher plasma's specfic use highlights an issue with the game ( too many situational weps when the situation needed for them is rare ) however the solution would be a restock stratagem that allows you to weapon switch in the field ( think about it like a portable weapon locker )

[@TheQcjoe47]

I understand your point but it's by design. The way it's meant to be played is that let's say one guys bring a kit more for defence another for the sea of small enemy another one can solely focus on the medium armored or the one in the back line. Because there is 0 organisation and trust in your team, everybody try to do everything.. Best exemple: when is the last time you used a recoiless rifle and somone else reloaded for you?. Even if we bring 2 kit it still milles better to stand side by side reload your friend and its your turn. But you can't trust your team to be there when it's time. We run around with 4 shield backpack strat.... In my game I sometime don't bring a support weapon and a backpack and get one of my team when it's up. It give us more slot to bring smoke or one of my favorite the eagle strafing run.

[@Lehanna]

@@TheQcjoe47For some reason people think that everyone on a team should basically be a jack of all trades. Not realizing that it just makes everyone 'okay' and no one 'great' at anything.

[@TheQcjoe47]

@@Lehanna I know! That's the whole damn concept and nobody want to try anything différant! The only thing that make ppl together is when there is a new mission that look damn impossible! 10 hours later ppl that actually think find a way and then every one is forced to play smart! I love it! WE DON'T NEED A MORTAR AND HALF TON BOMB ON TMS MISSION GOD DAMNIT. the evacuate scientists was the same they just opened up the map and now you only need one person to clear the VIP

[@shadowkhan422]

@@TheQcjoe47Your problem , you look at it from point of you of someone who has a team of friends who play the game ( thats my impression at least) . A lot of us are solo players . Even if you LFG for a team on discord, chances they will be competent are not that great (and between people having jobs and time differences , when you do find a competent team , you might barely play with them again)

[@TheQcjoe47]

@@shadowkhan422 I have a team but it's not even 5% of my playtime. I mostly play with rando thats why we can't do this. I think the main probleme is the communication. If everyone is on mic you can do shit like that and be fast. With nobody talking it's not possible. I add ppl with voice that I have fun with Anny chance I get and now I got a whole 3 page of friends that just hop in game randomly.

[@searingllama5621]

Just an aside, the backside of the Charger and Bile Titans are not weak spots. They're actually resistive spots and take 50% less damage from all non-explosive type weapons. Both Chargers and Titans weak spot is their head and it's armored specifically to require the player use a heavy ordnance against them, EAT-17 or Recoiless are the best options currently being able to 1 shot both with well placed headshots

[@L_U_C_1_F_E_R]

Actually🤓 is a 90% less damage, the devs confirmed that you only do 10% damage to those parts unless it has the explosive trait

[@herrfantastisch7489]

I struggled at first, but the plasma punisher is honestly so much fun. I’ve been one shotting the weak enemies, and taking out swarms of hunters and warriors at once. It seems like it two to three shots warriors. Might not be impressive on a single warrior, but it adds up when you’re fighting multiple clustered together. It also destroys walkers if you hit them right. Once I got the aiming down, it’s really not that bad. It even doubles down as a mortar if you got a feel for it. My only gripe is the ammo. It takes two supplies to replenish fully, and I think that’s such a massive disadvantage. The sickle absolutely slaps with a supply pack. I was mowing down swarms and just reloading it to keep firing. The plasma punisher is so ammo hungry which is a huge downside.

[@astral2282]

I haven't used the Punisher Plasma yet, but by what I've seen in videos, it appears to be less of a Crowd Control weapon and more of an anti-medium armor, I see it putting down Devastators and similar enemies pretty quickly, I think that's its intended purpose.

[@VB-92]

Far as I can tell, when it comes to beam weapons, best way to use them is stack them. Cannon, Sycle and Dagger will effectively make it impossible for you to not have something cooled down at all times, allowing you to endlessly rotate between them.

[@kayshell66]

And even then you’ve barely killed anything bc the TTK is so long 😂

[@mrmeaty5619]

Good point

[@theelmozusflame3015]

Add the rover! And you have the infinite PISS Laser!!

[@ragnartellevson1870]

​@@theelmozusflame3015 I'm about to do this. Lol. Pissmaster build

[@VB-92]

@@kayshell66 I find it to be decent on the cannon, falling back on the starting weapons as sidearms, also as said here you can also get beam rover since it also has endless ammo, and can add to the kill speed. Then you can dedicate 2 stratagem slots to dealing with heavy armor. Not bad if you like never having to restock ammo, granted you'll still need the restock for nades and stims..

[@katherinestives940]

I don't have it yet, so I haven't been able to try it out, but I thought that the Blitzer (electric shotgun) was supposed to have a click-fire mode and a hold-fire mode?

[@grimgrahamch.4157]

You mean semi-automatic and fully automatic?

[@recless8667]

It's perfectly fine to run the stun grenade if you're carrying the Autocannon or Grenade Launcher. Bonus with the Grenade Launcher, more stun grenades because you should be pairing that weapon with the ammo pack anyway.

[@crashboredom2]

I just wish the sickle was more similar to how it was in helldivers 1.

[@philipdrainville3592]

Blitzer ignore armor dmg goes directly into hp so you are better off shooting the HEAD of a charger than its butt, just like the arc thrower

[@ICECAPPEDSKY]

It doesn’t bypass armor. It can’t hurt higher end medium or even low tier heavy armor. It sucks. Just use any other shotgun for chaff clear

[@CL3VA]

I think it is a good gun with the right combo. Like if your an anti tank build, having something this good a hoard clear with infinite ammo is really crucial, especially for SPEAR players@@ICECAPPEDSKY

[@nickalso813]

@@ICECAPPEDSKYyou are so wrong, they absolutely do ignore armor

[@kommi7658]

​@nickalso813 the ARC THROWER ignores all armor. The blitzer shotgun released in this warbond does not. It can deal with some medium armor targets but does nothing against heavy armor.

[@ICECAPPEDSKY]

@@kommi7658 exactly

[@StreetSurfersAlex]

The Blitzer not doing as much against bots as the arc thrower makes sense - it needs one single high power arc to burn the circuits. More bolts - lower voltage

[@Krypto1201]

I like the fact that the first shotgun you unlock is a BEAST. It stuns/pushes armored enemies back- giving you a chance to push em into a orbital or resupply

[@panzerspahwagen527]

Sickle was my main back in one, so glad it's back! Now they just need to bring back the SUPPRESSOR!!!!

[@TsunamiWombat]

Sickle is a good workhorse weapon and basically an LMG primary. Needs something for close encounters. It's an (even lighter) Stalwart. Punisher Plasma is a primary slot grenade launcher, it's main use is it striders and spewers, you need to pair it with an MG (Bots) or Stalwart (Bugs) to use as your 'primary'. Sounds niche but i've been getting a lot of games with fookin spewer swarms. The Blitzer is a lighter Arc Thrower without the range and punching power, good for trash mobs up close but you need to pair it with something hard hitting and accurate. Great for bugs, might have use vs bots if paired w/ an AMR. If you look at all these guns you realize they're just lighter versions of existing heavy weapons in a primary slot.

[@dannycolwell8028]

Interesting quirk for the stun grenade- you can stun a group, but then to switch to your support weapon and lay down a good spanking, you have to switch to your primary first then to your support

[@Soneoak]

Punisher plasma + laser canon for automaton missions. Long range, use the cannon, if they get close enough, punisher plasma comes out for the staggers and can kill those damned striders 1 shot from the front. No worries about ammo.

[@chaywarburton3488]

laser cannon sucks vs bots. I couldnt kill anything with it. In the face or not. auto cannon, rail or arc

[@xCRuSTYPANCAKEx]

Maybe on difficulty 5 and below 😂

[@pinpointinaccuracy8223]

Yeah, I was thinking about striders when I saw the video. I always struggle against the big groups of those when I don't bring a grenade launcher or autocannon, so having a primary that can take them down easy without having to get a pinpoint shot through the slit or flank around seems pretty handy. Run that with stalwart for chaff, shield pack, and EAT for the really heavy enemies and that seems like it might be a solid loadout. Will have to test it out for myself when I finally get enough supercredits for the warbond.

[@GameFuMaster]

@@chaywarburton3488 You kind of need shield on automaton missions from all the laser projectiles flying around. AMR is my go to since it covers most of the job that AC does

[@spp2807]

@@chaywarburton3488 They nerfed the F out of railgun, depending what you prefer Arc or laser is good for those heavier enemies, I prefer Lasercannon and for me it is quite easy to clear tanks, hulks, turrets with it

[@strangewolf1261]

I mean no offence, BUT... Throws STUN grenade at TANK, does nothing. TANK shoots back, KABOOM! Pretty logical outcome ain't it?

[@mrmeaty5619]

Yea it is logical. I don't know why he even thought he could

[@xanderlaskey2753]

I’m mean not really it stuns a Bile titan

[@SwanyPlaysGames]

Just for testing purposes lol

[@strangewolf1261]

@@xanderlaskey2753 My BROTHER in Democracy (managed), a BT is a BIOLOGICAL creature.... a Tank is a TANK!

[@merfs2770]

Great review, thank you!

[@12gagegaming43]

I really enjoy the punisher plasma when fighting bots. It's ability to one shot striders and stunlock even shield devestators is rather nice. It is also deceptively good for ammo since it kills everything below a devestator in 1 shot.

[@VisualOrchestra]

Plasma launcher can kill chargers by itself, which for a primary is alright.

[@ICECAPPEDSKY]

If you use Stun grenades it’s even easier. Stun the charger and fire the plasma rounds into its back, it then bleeds to death quickly

[@out-of-time-docgaming2275]

I absolutely love how each weapon has great balance. It just makes for a fun game. I love to use everything . Your not inclined to just run with "what's best". God I love being a Helldiver!

[@thesongoflunch]

What? The worst part of helldivers is a lack of viable weapons

[@HandyDandy6]

​@@thesongoflunch Havent noticed, i run whatever i want on higher difficulties and do alright.

[@jesusbarrera6916]

@@HandyDandy6 sure you do... I also solo helldiver difficulty with just the handgun and no stratagems

[@HandyDandy6]

@jesusbarrera6916 I never said i solo it. To pretend it's impossible with 4 people is just funny, I don't know what to tell you other than hope are able to enjoy it eventually.

[@out-of-time-docgaming2275]

@@thesongoflunch What you said is borderline treason. I am a god damn helldiver and I make the weapon. We are versatile killing machines. Get your ass back on the front lines! For DEMOCRACY, for SUPER EARTH!

[@aaronmessedup225]

Great breakdown! The sickle instantly became my favorite weapon off the jump, but now I want to unlock and try the other ones. The secondary is so tough right now I don't know what to use. Everything is so MID

[@SuppositoryPerc]

Also using the sickle quickly switch to your secondary and use single fire by the time your done your gun will be cooled. Its good for just continuous fire

[@Sheepish1991]

Thats filthy lad, cant wait to get on it tomorrow

[@Riccolino.]

Exactly, i use as secondary the lasercanon and switch back and forth with them, win win Situation 😁

[@DavidSmith-mt7tb]

That's the difference between thinking like a civilian and thinking like a citizen

[@Sir-Raph]

It *_could_* be good for continuous fire if it didn't overheat within a few seconds. Honestly I wouldn't mind the overheat if they just removed the dumb spool-up time. This gun didn't need a delay to fire on top of not being able to fire for long. It's not a minigun. Usually it's one or the other....

[@derkaiser9881]

I just use the arc thrower as my stratagem weapon. They pair up really well and you can deal with everything the sickle can't after cleaning up the small stuff.

[@biggestbirdsbiggestprophet3188]

Totally get what you mean with the Punisher Plasma. I've found myself really taking a liking to it, particularly when paired with the laser pistol. I've found it's best use is when you're behind the team and role-playing as a mortar sentry, which can be a bit tough due to the quick fall of the projectile. However, it is quite effective at taking out smaller enemies and can potentially give your team some relief to deal with the larger enemies. It's good with a team that can coordinate, but godawful if you don't have that lol

[@I39393I]

Why ppl think unlimited ammo is such a big deal ? For lasers you need to put it away to cool down ,isn’t that just like reloading ? And for the “don’t need to call resupply” argument How about stims and nades? You don’t need thos ether because you primary “don’t need to reload?” I don’t see any benefits that’s so game changing ppl would praise those weapon that hard

[@haroner849]

Yeah, and you also can consider that ammo lies around everywhere lol. "unlimited" ammo doesn't really change anything when it comes to gun performance.

[@jesusbarrera6916]

there's maps where there really isn't any ammo, or is across the tower

[@I39393I]

@@jesusbarrera6916 ↓↓↑→

[@jesusbarrera6916]

@@I39393I in the middle of 2 vile titans and 3 chargers... It's telling you guys play below 6 level

[@I39393I]

@@jesusbarrera6916lmao if u can"t get a ammo call in just under that lil pressure my guy you are def not the one

[@Thesavagesouls]

That warbond seems lackluster. I'm really concerned how AH can't make any satifying weapons apart for a few gun.

[@Spotlessdelta]

I swear I love the game ..but jesus the weapons are so trash ..I still love the game but I have be honest but that's my opinion...i thought it was just me

[@Thesavagesouls]

Same man, and i'm not meta at all, I like to change primary weapons from time to time but they all sucks apart for the breaker and the defender.

[@goldenghost2001]

​@Thesavagesouls you cant say you dont play meta and then say the only two guns that are good are meta guns. That means you are playing meta because you would rather keep the same gun for all missions. Ive played mission where the scythe destroyed enemies, where the liberator concussive wrecked bugs, and mark rifle obliterated the bots. You are are choosing the same kit and strategems again and again and then complain when you dont know how to use anything else

[@saberaq]

It seems really good imo? The booster, grenade, Sickle, and Plasmisher are all very solid picks, the Dagger isn’t the Redeemer or Peacemaker, and the Blitzer is… quirky. Still way better than Steeled Veterans. I do not at all regret picking it up