Helldivers 2 - trying not to get shell-shocked by the new DSS Planetary Bombardment

[@Frieza.]

This is the same orbital when you’re named as a traitor 😂

[@TheBigHA]

Seems like a lot of work to build and use something they fire at us for free

[@Carnun009]

Except we actually pay samples for it to kill us, fun!

[@Mr_Zimm]

This one is more democratic

[@Suhayl_Khatib]

Yeaahhhh. I have been killed by the DSS more than the bots.

[@alechernandez5506]

Same. I played 1 game and left the planet right after. I don’t know what they were thinking with this one.

[@inquisitorsteele8397]

​@@alechernandez5506It's certainly annoying but it's become more manageable once you get used to the pattern though. It's also destroyed outpost and other facilityike the jammer as well because the entire bombardment zone is entire map.

[@randyny1564]

The combination of the dss throwing u around and the rocket devastators. I'm done

[@LostAtSe]

They should beam a red light down so we know its coming

[@firewater3957]

@@LostAtSeyea that’s actually smart

[@randomizer6000]

Personally, I think we’re looking at it all wrong; Arrowhead didn’t release a half-baked feature, Super Earth released a half-baked plan for orbital bombardment because Helldivers are expendable resources

[@kingslushie1018]

That idea makes more sense 😂

[@Clogmonger]

Oh yay! More roleplay to glaze over arrowhead screwing up! How fun 😒

[@randomizer6000]

@ Yes 🗿

[@Whitecloth69]

Yay more roleplay bullshit for a shitty untested feature

[@insertnamehere6659]

@clogmonger Nothing in the DSS said it would be accurate or reliable.

[@michaele8347]

Again, AH did not play test something. We are the play tester.

[@qualwinters8784]

Sounds about right. 😂

[@TheBigHA]

Accurate. AH moto: why test when you can just assume and release

[@antimetricsystem]

thats why I love this game

[@kinsan89]

It makes sense in lore lmao

[@bayzul7405]

Lore accurate gameplay lit af

[@northernhand9781]

Now I understand soldier’s PTSD a little better. Hearing the shells land non-stop for such a long period of time is wild. I’m gonna hear those sounds in my sleep.

[@GruntoSkunko]

You get used to it.

[@Snake-d6i]

they should have those sounds far off into the background so you feel like you arent the only helldiver within a 1000 mile radius

[@dripwastaken7884]

Finally i can enjoy that one annoying teammate that throws napalm barages at random AS A FEATURE!

[@inquisitorsteele8397]

I'm probably only one of the few who actually like it. Maybe because I'm a barrage main.

[@sanderspijkers2495]

Trenchdiver heaven

[@MxSteelscale]

by the way, it does hit the entire map, my team was in the southwest corner and we randomly completed a light outpost all the way north of the map on a tier 6

[@redfalcon8062]

Yeah it does help out, there was one Jammer in ffont of us during a mission and it just bombed the shit out of it, completing our objective. I just said "Oh well, nvm." Lol

[@LaserTractor]

How does it contribute to your gameplay tho? By making you play the game...less?

[@SpamRambe]

​@@LaserTractor it honestly makes it wayyy more hectic and stressful so its not boring or anything but maybe a bit unfair/frustrating? yeah i can definitely see it

[@LordDarthHarry]

@@SpamRambe All it would need is a safe zone around the players. Just large enough so you don't get randomly whacked your self.

[@XalenPrime]

Before DSS I’d have 1-3 deaths, with DSS our group always runs out of reinforcements

[@TheAtqthe30th]

The shield emplacement are your best bet with democracy protects armor.

[@someguy4611]

As someone who lives in chaos and thrives in it, this feature is so fucking funny. I love it.

[@Nahyan_971_]

I think we built the DSS for the bots accidentally.

[@lucasbosier6808]

Warning you are in range of friendly artillery!

[@alechernandez5506]

It’s annoying to hear the constant bombardment and get killed by this 2-5 times a game. If I wasn’t getting blown up I was getting tossed around into the open only to get blasted by the bots. I wish this thing shot further than 50 meters from helldivers. I will not not playing on any planet with the bombardment active.

[@Double0hTater]

Agreed, it needs to not be near as constant and maybe prioritize only patrols or locations with heavy enemies, personally I’d like it to function more like a buff to orbitals bombardments overall, lower cooldown and more salvos, i played one and died to the bombardment/ragdoll adjacent like 5 times, and a rocket strider 1 shot once. And my ears literally cannot stand the 380 noise anymore 😂

[@BeardGrizzly]

"The only hope you have is to accept the fact that you're already dead. The sooner you accept that, the sooner you'll be able to function as a soldier is supposed to function: without mercy, without compassion, without remorse. All war depends upon it." Lt. Ronald Spiers, Company B, 506th Paratroopers.

[@slikkvic7611]

My experience with this so far has been killing my friends and team more than actually providing any assistance. Dunno what Arrowhead thought they were cooking, but it was outright absurdly annoying when it's bombarding the objective we needed to complete.

[@Moodyman90]

What the DSS Planetary Bombardment needs: 1. To not be constantly on. Maybe a minute on, minute off. 2. Some kind of indication of where the shells are going to land at. 3. Not able to target certain objectives. Too many requires us to stand still and that will kill you. 4. Make the Extraction zone, especially when the shuttle is called in, a safe zone. 5. Maybe a special beacon to give the bombardment some direction for a short period of time. 1,2, and 4 would make it more bearable in the very least.

[@destroyerswin8537]

This is what I thought it might be and I’m not too disappointed this is awesome

[@yajnalgibno6536]

Level 10 automaton is so manageable now especially during extraction.

[@Double0hTater]

Honestly not a fan though. I think the sentiment overall is it should not be constant and players should have more control over it. The literal perma ear diddling of a 380 CONSTANTLY going off, on top of getting clapped by it seemingly out of nowhere is obnoxious. Plus the fact that 90% of the enemies wind up either dying, or get too close to you and you get 380’d. You basically play the game less and die to more random bs. Personally I’d like to see it be either a target designated special stratagem, like a wide range heavy walking barrage, with a global cooldown across everyone so it isnt insanely broken. Or it should just be a buff to stratagems like orbitals get reduced cooldown, and increased salvos.

[@aoku888]

​​@@Double0hTatereverything you said i 100% agree with, but i'm 99% sure he was being sarcastic

[@TheBigHA]

What if it was an objective destroying strat. Like Mark a jammer and the ship blasts the bitch

[@cryosen]

​@Double0hTater Instead of buffing bombardments which would require taking specific stratagems for it to do anything, it could just give every diver a DSS orbital bombardment stratagem.

[@ArcaneEye]

And to think they could just have given us a shared walking barrage...

[@TurtleShotty]

After a bunch of deaths. Bringing explosive resistance armor. Preferably heavy and a few bring the big shield bubble strategy to leapfrog helps

[@midwestrebel2]

I'm glad we got the Planetary bombardment!

[@Creeper0224]

Lasted for 3 minutes? My guy, the one mission i played, it lasted the whole mission, we completed the objectives but we couldn't extract because.. unsurprisingly, we ran out of reinforcements

[@Axxikon]

They HAVE to change this, make it give free barrages on top of your normal stratagems or something but how it is right now just makes it harder to complete any mission. What the hell...

[@misterchoc2893]

I think this is awesome

[@wenk7182]

@@misterchoc2893 You are stupid, so your opinion does not matter.

[@firewater3957]

I think we already have that thing where we get free stratagems,so it’s the same thing as the random free stratagems that you want, After all the major orders.

[@sealacious]

I fear no bot... but that... THING... it scares me.

[@tohrukobayashi4446]

this will be know as .. the Mastia incident.also something i saw , and maybe im wrong about it.. is , the barrage does come down randomly but only at a fair distance around the players, but as you use the jet pack, you have an increased chances of being hit by it since you just jump foward to where the barrage is falling down. mostly likely being hit.

[@jiby911]

I haven't died from the bombardment even once. I'm using fortified with shield, but the shells have rarely gotten that close to me. I think it is a little excessive, but i love the chaos in this game, so I'm absolutely loving it

[@TheBigHA]

Shouldn't have to plan my loadout around super earth lacking

[@Shadow6OO]

Man, you're lucky. I've been hit directly by a shell 5 times in 1 mission once. Only one of those times I managed to live (I was wearing the Democracy Protects passive).

[@r6TrdSlow]

Flexible reinforcement budget is about to become a popular booster with the bombardment I think

[@keithlocklear9811]

Getting yeeted off that strider with the thermite attached to you was honestly impressive

[@hquan1]

Had I not brought shield generation on me, I would have gotten killed by the DSS a lot of time

[@tejoadi4349]

I like this thing funniest super helldive mission i did, also it doesnt seem to work in on mission that has eradicate one Sure it needs improvement on their patterns and focus mode, like calling a laser guide

[@jacobfoxfires9647]

Definitely bugged. But did found ways around it like using heavy fortified armor and the shield backpack that can make you survive those hits. Still messing around with the load outs but with this we got to play around these things now. Cause so far it is doing a HELL of a lot to push liberations.

[@Popsickle666]

I did that same thing and died to direct hits

[@TheBigHA]

So I have to turn on slug mode just to play? Sounds so funn..

[@sigh-cosis]

4:25 "Oh it's over. that lasted like 3 minutes." The cannons needed to be reloaded

[@HeroDot-by2oz]

DSS was definitivly that New Friend in game who send you a full mobile orbital, 120 and 380 barrage on your position for HELP of course 😂

[@Staladus]

Lmao I love this thing honestly, if they just fixed the helldiver targeting we'd be golden

[@Thereisnogreatersword]

It would be cool if we could call in a sort of auto tracking lock on strike to an area which then pelts literally every single meter around it with orbitals, or perhaps orbital bombardments constantly target large targets like fabricators or tanks, rather than just normal enemies.

[@BouncingTribbles]

I was so surprised that the rare sample action finished donations first. I really wanted to see the Eagle one first.

[@Mapper2]

They need to make it so if you take out a bot jammer or complete the radar dish secondary the aim becomes much better and decreases the chance of team kill..

[@antimetricsystem]

I had music on that synced perfecly with my death by 380 shell

[@noname-op5bb]

Sorry, just kinda curious, but what was the song?

[@bayzul7405]

Post mission results, check Accidentals I definitely died 6-7 times, dude kept apologizing team kills ("killed by" I did get lil tilted mid game). Half those definitely the DDS it was only one stray Eagle Gatling as accidentals were way lower Some visual indicator, do not get mad your squad mates. "You are within friendly fire" - also lmao 9:48 DDS moment

[@jetgaming5633]

I'm surprised the bombardment didn't hit a single fabricator in the first 3 minutes of the match

[@BouncingTribbles]

2:25 you didn't die to a mine, a bombardment hit right next to you and detonated the mine.

[@grind_4gainzz709]

Found a few tricks staying close to be rock formations seems to help heaps and obviously shield Gen pack and liberty protects perk managed to full clear a diff 10 with 2 deaths

[@Thereisnogreatersword]

ALso 100mm bombard has a range of 50 just like thermal bombard, 380 has 60-65, whilst gatling seems to have a radius of anywhere from 30 to 40 ish

[@nickolipiecowye5590]

I figured it would have some sort of radius of which it will not fire near helldivers.

[@SHELBYGT645]

"Is it right here?" @9:45 😂prolly the best way to show how bad the new dss is

[@BloodyVagabond]

Makes those blitz missions on super helldive a walk in the park😁

[@Legofan2676]

PFFFT forgot to turn his HUD stuff back on from the pvp in the last stream.

[@FairwellNoob]

Early onsent dementia

[@Leo-p4x8b]

It should either be extra free strategem. Or it should be a one per mission use that's extremely powerful

[@MsMirekPL]

Imagine if they let us planetary bombardment as staratagem for lider of group, but not as throwable ball but laser beam that you aim where it should shoot

[@Clogmonger]

Arrowhead's trolling.

[@eclypse1513]

12:29 shit dude you only need one thermite anywhere on it lol

[@terra6713]

Good time to use a explosion resistant armor I see lol

[@patricksullivan9713]

I plaid one mission with 15 minutes non stop and died so much

[@TheRyleeFella]

ive heard the bombardment tries to shoot around each helldiver, which can cause issues if everyone were to split up. not sure if this is true, i havent got to try it yet

[@themasterchef9784]

11:07 brother those are NOT 120s. They look like orbital precision strike size explosions

[@adriancoispel8840]

AH never really knew what they were doing ... were they ?

[@N47Z86]

So let me get this straight; we donate our resources to a machine that tosses shells non-discriminately and kills us more than it does the enemy? In what world is this a good tradeoff?

[@TheDavidbjr]

Got it, vote for the DSS to go to the non mission planet. It sucks

[@unclefungus2011]

Audio for this mission: boom, Boom, BOOM BOOM BOOM BOOM BOOM BOOM BOOM BOOM BOOM BOOM BOOM BOOM BOOM BOOM BOOM BOOM BOOM BOOM BOOM BOOM BOOM BOOM BOOM BOOM BOOM BOOM BOOM BOOM BOOM BOOM BOOM BOOM BOOM BOOM BOOM BOOM BOOM BOOM BOOM BOOM BOOM BOOM BOOM BOOM BOOM BOOM BOOM BOOM BOOM BOOM BOOM BOOM BOOM BOOM BOOM BOOM BOOM BOOM BOOM BOOM BOOM BOOM BOOM BOOM BOOM BOOM BOOM BOOM BOOM BOOM BOOM (...quick little breather...) BOOM BOOM BOOM BOOM BOOM BOOM BOOM BOOM BOOM BOOM BOOM BOOM BOOM BOOM BOOM BOOM BOOM BOOM BOOM BOOM BOOM BOOM BOOM BOOM BOOM BOOM BOOM BOOM BOOM BOOM BOOM BOOM BOOM BOOM BOOM BOOM BOOM BOOM BOOM BOOM BOOM BOOM BOOM BOOM BOOM BOOM BOOM BOOM BOOM BOOM BOOM BOOM BOOM BOOM BOOM BOOM BOOM BOOM BOOM BOOM BOOM BOOM BOOM BOOM BOOM BOOM BOOM BOOM BOOM BOOM BOOM BOOM BOOM BOOM BOOM BOOM BOOM BOOM BOOM BOOM BOOM BOOM BOOM BOOM BOOM BOOM BOOM BOOM BOOM BOOM BOOM BOOM BOOM BOOM ....... Not annoying at all 🤣

[@nickpang4630]

they literally just turned on the traitor strike at all times with worse accuracy it tracks and fires around the players

[@MikleKaneChannel]

I think it's current implementation is absolutely stupid and unusable, it should be just a free 120/380 barrage for everyone in the mission, same with eagles - free airstrikes with separated cooldowns for resupplying them

[@bigbear7076]

WW1 simulator

[@limyeeshin]

The only workable scenario for this stupid feature is that now HDers can separate to different obj, the Dss barrage provide "some" help for lone wolf but overall this is stupid

[@Senshi2031]

Daaaamn

[@ilianceroni]

Uhm🤔 it’s a bit too much bombardment😂… maybe they should add a new stratagem for when the dss bombardment is active, something that creates a safe radius around it. Like the shield, but it’s just an area where the dss doesn’t shoot😂

[@ViggoFriberg-p7l]

This is actually a good idea, everyone else is just whining, you bring a solution. Thank you

[@minebrosfinest]

@@ViggoFriberg-p7lI mean it’s not really the player’s responsibility to come up with solutions to the dev team missing the mark again. Regardless this is a good idea and I see a lot of other good ideas too. Not sure why AH picked this

[@jaygotdasauce7441]

I had 10 deaths more than my teammates 💀💀💀

[@lc5957]

dose it work off of bombarding a set Meter away from the player from all sides? if so, that's gonna leave into overlapping killzones. and that what will kill players the most, and i dont know a true fix to this tbh... i guess we can give these shells programable: self-destructing mid-air when in 25M of a friendly object's 'detection sphere'.

[@Kakashihae111]

should we let bots keep the DSS?

[@gtheavyy8543]

It was interesting to try out but the constant bombardment sounds get irritating in the long run. And it feels like chaos for it's own sake; I mean, if the bombardment is across the whole map, why aren't objectives at the other side of the map getting blown up? How does DSS know where to target? It's uncharacteristically tactically dubious for Arrowhead. I wish it was just an extra 380 strategem for each helldiver, letting only 1 be active at a time but otherwise having separate cooldowns

[@r6TrdSlow]

This is the most hilarious feature. Holy crap. That fortified armor passive might be a new “must” for missions with it active.

[@TheJokingJoker.]

boom boom

[@philsc6028]

How annoying to hear that constant bombardment during an entire session of gameplay

[@jack1701e]

Well... looks like i'm transferring to the Bug front.

[@HeresGrey]

Why... why didnt they make these controllable stratagems... Gosh ArrowHead keeps missing the mark every damn time. Underwhelming warbonds theyve spent 60 days undoing the stupid decisions they made with weapon nerfs now this... Which we grinding for weeks to unlock...

[@Double0hTater]

I mean its literally brand new, feedback will get through. “Missing the mark” isnt what i’d call the last few warbonds, they’ve been interesting in their own right. Honestly I would be okay with them cooling down on the warbond releases, focus on refining certain gameplay mechanics like armor passives that are underwhelming, and boosters that are useless. Maybe sprinkle in a stratagem here or there to compensate for the warbond drought.

[@ArcaneEye]

​​@@Double0hTateron the other hand, they could have playtested it a bit and easily concluded 'well this is exhausting.' could have just given us shared strategems and then put the upgrades to map wide bombardement and Eagle storm on the beta server and gotten some feedback...

[@HeresGrey]

I've been playing since release they have been missing the mark for sure your saying the chemical agents warbond is good? I'm finding the weapons to just be conventional weaponry that doesn't bring anything special to the table they need a deeper armour/weapon customisable system... a bloody armour colour pallette system different missions, biomes, and more vehicle options... a social hub on the DSS would have been amazing also... its just snail pace... 7 weeks give or take for an extra menu and a "weather system modifier" is just not cutting it as far as a reward for content goes.

[@cri-rn5yr]

Yeaaaa i quit

[@shivenpatel7288]

Traitor simulator

[@Stefan54]

So they reskinned the traitor barrage and gave us 3 pages on which we can vote, oh and we can also playtest it after all this time that the mayor order took. Gotta love Arrowhead for being such a competent game studio 💙 Ngl I was hoping they would get GOTY but now I hope they get nothing but the worst. They really did this to themselfes.

[@firewater3957]

Then try doing it yourself see how that goes

[@Stefan54]

@firewater3957 Yeah because that's such a valid argument to bring after all those months in which Arrowhead ruined the sh t out of the game with every new patch while ignoring player feedback and then needing two whole months to fix their own mess up, which they did to themselfes. Cope.

[@minebrosfinest]

@@firewater3957this is such a non argument. If a chef serves you literal shit you don’t have to be a chef to say it’s bad

[@KalenTomlinson]

They should've waited till clan and group systems were in the game to release DSS. The focus should've been on the illuminate, and DSS should've been SE's response. I thought this would be more like the strata relay from warframe and clan system dojo.. meet up with random players and have different NPC's have events and dev interactions like meeting General Brach and visiting a zoo where they show off terminid experimental mutations and where our resources go, maybe even weapon mod vendors.. I expected so many things... instead we got trolled again! But yeah? This is pretty much just an overrated modifier settings menu, and I didn't really care for those. I guess we'll see how it is with (MORE) explosions everywhere.. 😂 They released this, too early imo.. focus should have been on releasing the squids and weapon mods.. and they should've waited to release this DSS space station until clans and group systems are ready and we better be able to explore the station!

[@ps2killer1]

The bombardment follows the players only

[@patricksullivan9713]

No it bombs the whole map

[@MrHocotateFreight]

There are multiple slots in your list of orbitals for EXACTLY THIS KIND OF STUFF But no, just make the gameplay worse, thanks arrowhead. This better have been a coverup to work on the army rosters

[@DonBandi1]

As long as bombardment is active my foot won't touch planet with DSS

[@Qzzz84]

yeaa im not gonna donate any resourced to get this

[@cri-rn5yr]

The dss suck

[@swedishmeatball3170]

thats not a warzone . its just idiotic

[@shadowbludd]

Not a fan.

[@DA-pb5yl]

I don’t like it, the fun part of this game is killing the enemy, whether with weapons or with stratagems. There’s a skill factor in throwing stratagems, and you decide when and where to throw them. This bombardments is stupid. It targets nothing, delays what you’re trying to do and removes the fun factor. Big fat thumbs down.

[@Kywu]

Funny, ArrowHead keep missing the mark on game design even with all the glaze, shame. I wish it was better really, but people need to complain more about the state of the game, this thing was obviously badly introduced like, a little bit of thinking really, ofc it was gonna friendly fire, does it target ennemy ? it seems it shoot randomly