HELLRAISER: PROPHECY (2006) fan film - Part 2 of 2 + bonus

[@jonathankui]

I thank my cast and crew of biology students who volunteered time and effort to go beyond their biology training to create free entertainment for others, actors very much included. Under the circumstances, they did a fantastic job. It's a shame that the film they've helped create with no compensation is being so scathingly unappreciated by some, as this was intended to be a fun project that harmed no one. I do hope that others go forward and make even better fan films...

[@Jackth71]

Its nice to see the efforts of all the people who cared enough to make this movie realized. The director's vision & passion for the work of all of the creators of hellraiser is evident in this film. I especially like the use of the none traditional cenobites & can't wait to see the final outcome of the movie. The acting has been called flat & while do feel that there is a certain amount of truth in this, I must say that the cast did a great job anyway. The story line was outstanding.

[@Jaaaaaaaaaaaaaaay]

A reasonably conceived and managed production let down by the old favourites 'friends instead of actors', 'budget', and 'the script'. Much respect for the effort that has clearly gone to it all, if not massively for the finished thing.

[@elbertivory2006]

I must admit you guys did a great job recreating the hellraiser series.

[@jonathankui]

For those interested, the official DVD is now available. It contains the HELLRAISER: PROPHECY film and the DEMONS TO OTHERS documentary. The DVD includes trailers, image gallery, alternate takes, gag reel, screening history, filmmaker bios, two commentary tracks, and subtitles in six languages, as well as additional interview footage with Doug Bradley, Gary Tunnicliffe, Simon Bamford and Kari Wuhrer. More information is available at the DVD link on the official website.

[@jonathankui]

Thanks for the feedback! I agree; I was too inexperienced (and still may be) and my fellow biologist friends did the best acting they could. I am learning though; for HR DEADER: WINTER'S LAMENT we had a trained cinematographer, gaffer and actors, and I believe it will be stronger than this, my fledgling attempt. :) And yes, I absoLUTEly recommend you forward and make your film; there's no feeling like seeing your ideas manifested visually! I wish you the very best in your efforts!

[@escottish140]

I have been waiting months for HR:PROPHECY and I wasn't that disappointed. I enjoyed it throughly. I love the script and story. As much as I love Pinhead, I'm glad this film keeps more to the variety of the comics and we get to see more (at last) of the under-rated Angelique. For a fan film by biology students, you did a great job!

[@finalwars]

The nature of fan films are that the majority of them have low budgets but to see fans craft a film which crosses the Hellraiser mythology with that of The Prophecy films is unique and very interesting. Congrats.

[@jonathankui]

The static box was built by an artisan named Morphious69. The movable box was built by a guy named Kevfla. The brass panels for the movable box were supplied by Pyramid Gallery. You can find all these people online...

[@sersky]

A great fan film. very nice work. I enjoyed the variation on Lucifer here, with a good script/storyline

[@jonathankui]

Because of budget (and exp) we used two Panasonic PV-GS14s. As to software, I used Windows Movie Maker, Adobe Premiere, After Effects, CoolEdit, TMpgEnc, MainConcept MPeg Encoder, and a few others... It was "learn as you go along." Thanks for the interest!

[@LB74]

Nice little twist at the end there with Lucifer. Despite some hardcore HR fans protests, I once thought that a Prophecy crossover was natural for Dimension to do. Especially after the whole Helloween thing fell through.

[@jonathankui]

Thanks for the interest! Scroll back a few comments to see my response to that oft-asked question... Cheers!

[@jonathankui]

Greetings, you can find "Spike" from in the deleted scenes of HR7 on the DVD. It was created by Gary Tunnicliffe for the film, but was sadly deleted out. Spike was purportedly inspired by an image from one of the nightmare flashes from EVENT HORIZON, the Paul WS Anderson film...

[@jonathankui]

"It is not hands that call us, it is desire." Good point, but what I was trying to convey that her obsession to save her sister is what gave her sufficient desire to solve the box to be able to open it... After all, in HR6, Kirsty re-solves the puzzle fueled by a desire for a revenge and in HR7, Amy Klein solves the puzzle fueled by obsession to get her story... But, it is a good point, and I agree, I could have done more to shore up Natasha's "desire/obsession" aspect. Cheers!

[@jonathankui]

From the website FAQ: "this film is intended for die-hard fans of the Hellraiser series, including its films, literature and especially the comics. The Hellraiser mythos goes much father than just Pinhead, but rather extends out to encompass Leviathan and the entire army of Cenobites. Pinhead is but one Cenobite. This film features four of the others as previously seen in the films." Again, though, we will have Pinhead in our next fan film HR: WINTER'S LAMENT becaues the backstory warrants it.

[@jonathankui]

There's a followup in the works, that touches upon the events here, but not a direct sequel to this storyline... Thanks for the interest!

[@jonathankui]

Welcome back! The DVD has subtitles in several languages, in the meantime I'll see what I can do to get her lines out on the web somewhere. Sorry about that, Monica has a heavy Italian accent to begin with, and we didn't have a sound person to record the dialog a little more clearly before processing... :P

[@piscesdreams1023]

sweet, i appreciate the info, i like how it has the late 80's early 90's kinda look to its film quality, I'm about to make a fan film called "Dusk of the Dead" dedicated to the Night of the Living Dead series, and you've definitely helped me a lot, cuz I wanted to get that look they had in films back then, thanks!!!

[@jonathankui]

That cenobite's name is Bound, and was seen as a large female in HELLRAISER: INFERNO and as a slim male in HELLRAISER: DEADER and HELLRAISER: HELLWORLD. Thanks for the interest!

[@randomfleming]

Hilarious! Good stuff. The only comment running through my head in part 1 was "I...AM...PAIN! ...(at your local library.)"

[@kitkens2]

awesome job i'm a die hard fan of HELLRAISER i have all but 2 of the dvds and now i have too buy the movies you made cause they r great the actors r awesome, the effects r ok considering the budget but other than that the movie is awesome also i loved the Prophecy movies with Christoper Walken so u combined them well...... keep up the good work

[@Wolfjr18]

I think this was a very good movie (at the risk of sounding like everyone else), considering what you had to work with. I have made 2 short films myself (found on my page here) and one is ALSO a homage to a horror/sci-fi movie, Plan 9 From Outer Space. And eveyone who is giving this guy grief, please cut him some slack. Those who decide to make fan films MUST work with what they have, money, actor, props, etc. So Kudos to you sir for making an awesome movie, I' looking forward to the next one.

[@jonathankui]

I tried to isolate just her voice, lower it, and then layer on 2 additional copies of her voice that were pitched lower at two other intervals... Thanks for the interest!

[@DirtyDeerock]

I enjoyed this part and the first part...way to go *thumbs up*

[@electronichell]

I think the cinematography was really good, but the special makeup effects where not at all, i would have made them for free, i have this passion to bring to life characters but i congratulate you because u did a big effort to make this fan film a reality. Keep the good work and i hope we can see more fan films like this.

[@jonathankui]

Thanks for the comments... Yeah, our budget was a few thousand; more than it should have been. But again, we had no filmmaking training whatsoever... We're all biologists... The costumes were mostly handmade by Christie Bialowas. And the Lead Cenobite wasn't a female Pinhead, but rather Angelique, who was previously seen in Hellraiser 4... No vocoder, just CoolEdit... Thanks again!

[@johnbakoda]

Incredible. Excellent work, the Cenobites were so realistic.

[@jonathankui]

The "diaper" was a general surgeon with no budget doing the best makeup she could. I trust that your film will have more money and more experience, and I look forward to learning from what you will accomplish. As to Lucifer, you're right; that's why this is a crossover fan film, and not canon. I might recommend that if you're so against the idea, that your time might have been better spent studying, say, English, rather than watching a fan-made film that you knew you wouldn't enjoy.

[@jonathankui]

From the website's "Story" link: "The Hellraiser mythos goes much father than just Pinhead... This film features four of the other [Cenobites] as previously seen in the films ...anybody cast as Pinhead will have comparisons made to Doug Bradley ...nobody that I would be able to find could have come close to his performance." That being said, I've relented in the past two years; our next fan film has Pinhead, but not doing anything you haven't seen before. Literally.

[@12frenchy1]

makeup was way better than i expected really got into towards the end

[@jonathankui]

I cannot take credit for that design... That cenobite is named "Spike" and was designed by Gary Tunnicliffe and Tim Day for use in HELLRAISER: DEADER. If you watch the HR: DEADER DVD's deleted scenes, you'll see footage of Spike... Unfortunately, it was cut out of the final edit... I thought it would be nice to include him here as a tribute... :D

[@benjamindie]

i wasn't expecting this to be worth watching,but iam glad i did,it was very good

[@jonathankui]

Heh, haven't heard that question in a while... Just to refresh: 1) Didn't want to have someone compared to Doug Bradley, 2) Always wanted to have Angelique from HR4 serve as a Lead Cenobite, 3) Film is intended to encompass the mythology as a whole as shown in film, literature and comics, and is not just about Pinhead, who is one Cenobite of many.

[@elvaago]

Apart from the obvious flaws stemming from an apparent low budget, you captured the feel of the movies very well. Kudos to you and good luck on future projects.

[@jonathankui]

Regarding lack of Pinhead, answer to FAQ: "Just to refresh: 1) Didn't want to have someone compared to Doug Bradley, 2) Always wanted to have Angelique from HR4 serve as a Lead Cenobite, 3) Film is intended to encompass the mythology as a whole as shown in film, literature and comics, and is not just about Pinhead, who is one Cenobite of many."

[@jonathankui]

That would be Spike... Spike was originally a Cenobite from the deleted scenes of HR: DEADER (check the DVD) that I tried to bring back in this fan film... Cheers...

[@jonathankui]

jungletekno: First of all, Lucifer has to do with the PROPHECY series. If you didn't want to see a crossover, then this film isn't for you, and you didn't need to keep watching. Secondly, the rotating black diamond is named "Leviathan," (who is mentioned throughout Pt. 2 of this film) and the spelling is "cenobite." As to the lighting effects, I completely agree with you. And again, Clive Barker is bringing Pinhead into a Judeo-Christian variation of Hell in THE SCARLET GOSPELS.

[@jonathankui]

Not yet, but we're currently working on a fan film prequel to HR7 called HELLRAISER: DEADER - WINTER'S LAMENT (2009) which will tie in to events from HR4 and HRP... Cheers!

[@dcfieldview2000]

Points to your "actors" for having the guts to make this. After reminding myself that it is amatuer video, I have to say that the storyline definitely has potential - especially for those of us who have seen all the films (bad as some of them were), know the mythology, and can't wait for The Scarlet Gospels to be published. And smart to keep Pinhead out of it - anyone other than Doug Bradley playing him would look like a fool. Nice job!

[@antkat22x2]

"It is not hands that call us, it is desire" - classic line, but all HR films after Part 2 ignored this aspect. In HR 3 Pinhead runs around and kills all kinds of clueless people (turning some of them into cenobites like Dischead or Camerahead).

[@jonathankui]

@ Funeral Twilight - Thanks for the enthusiastic support!

[@jonathankui]

@Phoebus3309 - That's "Seduction and Pursuit" by HR1 score composer Christopher Young... iTunes, I'm sure, and the score is likely still available on CD... Crescendo Records, if I remember correctly... Cheers...

[@meb1982]

The effects were great. The film was well written. The acting was decent for nonactors. All and all it was a decent fan film.

[@jonathankui]

I usually don't post asinine comments by ignorant users, but this one made me smile. :) 1) First off, you shouldn't have watched Part 2, if you didn't like Part 1, nor should you have spent even more time commenting, so YOU wasted your time, not ME. :) 2) Our actors weren't from porn, they were biologists. 3) This "disgrace to Hellraiser" was enjoyed for what it was by Clive Barker and was the first film to reference Leviathan since HR2. 4) When you get off your ass & do better, let me know.

[@LB74]

Honestly surprised that Dimension didn't do this. I guess the closest we'll ever get to see a Heaven Vs. Hell battle will probably be that SOUTH PARK episode from a while back.

[@jonathankui]

@xerotolerence: Thanks for your interest! Answer to FAQ: "Heh, haven't heard that question in a while... Just to refresh: 1) Didn't want to have someone compared to Doug Bradley, 2) Always wanted to have Angelique from HR4 serve as a Lead Cenobite, 3) Film is intended to encompass the mythology as a whole as shown in film, literature and comics, and is not just about Pinhead, who is one Cenobite of many."

[@asshowl]

that was awesome. want to point out that the editing was amazing, loved the shots/cuts during dialogues and all that. only thing i think could have been improved without the need of money is instructing the actors to maybe slow their lines down a bit and accentuate their words. 5 stars for this, hope you see lots of success in the future.

[@jonathankui]

You're right! I shouldn't try to learn and improve, I should just give up after the first try because you said so... Thank goodness you spoke up when you did! I'm going to go and cancel my other projects immediately!

[@jonathankui]

(Is this Ashkan from CSHL?) Hey Ashkan, thanks for the kind review... :) We didn't rip Lori apart mainly because I had no idea how to do it... :) We didn't have anybody who knew how to do visual effects; we just had me struggling to learn the most basic fxns of Adobe Aftereffects... :)

[@ericelectric]

looks like you guys had lots of fun making this...

[@jonathankui]

That is the song "Lies" by Evanescence, specifically the version found on their "Origin" album... (There's two versions out there)... Cheers!

[@AshkanJavaherian]

Nice job Jonathan. Hellraiser is one of my favorites and to see old friends and familiar places in it is just awesome. I really liked the costumes and I thought the editing was really great. The story was fun and the camera work was really good too. Some of the acting, especially the conversation in the very first scene in the library could have been done better but overall the acting improved dramatically towards the end. (How come Lori didn't get ripped apart with the chains? ) -ashkan

[@jonathankui]

Yeah, sorry about that... We had a pretty low budget, and the person who did the makeup was originally in Philadelphia while the actress was in New York, so when everyone finally came together that day to film, we did what we could with what we had... :)

[@jonathankui]

I'm sorry you didn't like the story... As to the acting, these biologists did the best they could. This was definitely a learning experience for all of us, and we hope to do better in the future...

[@jonathankui]

Thanks for the interest... That's a song by Evanescence called "Lies (remix)"...

[@evilotto91]

It wasn't terrible, and I liked that Angelique made an appearance. Nothing wrong with it considering what it is. Although I didn't care for the Spike Cenobite, there is a reason he was cut.

[@Neuquruca]

I think the fat guy had the best costume...where you got the box bro?!

[@jonathankui]

Why bother? Because we wanted to, and because we could. Lori volunteered to play the part, and since we were both trained in biology rather than acting/filmmaking, we decided to try and make a free Hellraiser fan film for fun. So, she bothered because she wanted to try something new, which she didn't have to do. I bothered because I love the Hellraiser and Prophecy storylines and wanted to tell a story.

[@grinchycrumpet]

nice job, very nicely done

[@WeisseDrache]

I pushed "add comment" too soon, it seems. Overall, i'd like to say i liked this fan-movie, you did a good job. ^^

[@jonathankui]

Heheheh... true, true. Besides, as a biology student, there's no house, much less a mortgage. I'm lucky there's even a rental apartment. :D

[@codyofga]

I dunno if my last comment made it or not but I liked the costumes I mean they were killer not having a real budget or any studio help. I mean seriously that girl who did them should be like I dunno making actual costumes for studio films she kicks ass. Not too big on the main demons hair being seen but still good nonetheless. Alot of work went into this and I applaud you for that. Just I dunno step up the acting a notch its like watching days of our lives. Kinda reminded me of Buffy.

[@heizgoth]

jonathan kui! your the man! awesome job! you inspire me.how i wish i could do a short horror movie with the local models im handling here in a small city of philippines. they're my friends so, no talent fee involved. also, im asking help from my friends who graduated from film school. they're willing to help. done the story, but im finishing on the script now. wish i could do a good job just like you did.

[@klisher]

i met doug bradley and clive barker years ago now.not all of the gateways are lament configuration puzzle boxes. you shouild have got pete burns, it would have saved makeup expense lol. good job well done

[@scraperindustry]

I didnt know there was an Angelique cenobite O.o I only watched Hellraiser 1 and 2 (I heard that the following movies veered away from Barker's book too much)... Much praise to Ms. Bialowas too then. The costumes were superb.

[@heizgoth]

great choice of cenobites to feature in this film! Butterball, Spike, Bound & Angelique. too bad, Pinhead wasnt seen in the movie!

[@nightelf2004]

where did you get the puzzle box..that was awesome!!!!! got to have me one :)..big hellraiser fan!

[@jonathankui]

@ratedr739 - From the official website: "The Hellraiser mythos goes much father than just Pinhead, but rather extends out to encompass Leviathan and the entire army of Cenobites. Pinhead is but one Cenobite. This film features four of the others as previously seen in the films... Anybody cast as Pinhead will have comparisons made to Doug Bradley. Doug Bradley performs the archetypal Pinhead, and nobody that I would be able to find could have come close to his performance."

[@apex2000]

cenobites are nice, i missed they last 2 movies, they all from the previous films? or some of em new?

[@rhine_1988]

Great fan film! You did a great job with the effects. Have you made any other fan films?

[@jonathankui]

Thanks for the support. I'd actually recommend Gary Tunnicliffe's NO MORE SOULS, which has far better production values (and experience) than HRP, you may enjoy that as well...

[@NeverAgain1985]

REALLY REALLY good movie, the Cenobites were done well, make-up and all, and didnt expect to see them coming from bright light doorway as in the originals. No Pinhead though, slight dissacpointment but its acceptable, Great job! but however some of the acting was horrble, aside from that NICE WORK!!

[@ravenguest]

The cenobytes are brilliant but the girl doesn't even look bothered when they walk out of the walls!

[@jonathankui]

Biology students generally don't have camcorders lying around that support changing lenses. This was our first attempt at a film, and all we could afford were fecking home camcorders, not even prosumer ones. The original Hellraiser had 5 producers, a film studio and over 100 crew according to IMDB. We had about a dozen biology students, my credit card and zero experience. So a little perspective might be in order here. Sorry your free entertainment was so disappointing. Yours will be better.

[@jonathankui]

I'd respectfully recommend that you re-watch Hellraiser 2, 3 and 4, as Pinhead doesn't just fuckin smile, he outright laughs in each. (He may also laugh in the other films, but that was just off the top of my head.)

[@Tailas444]

Was the cenobite with the big drill bit through his head an original creation, or was he in one of the Hellraiser movies? I've only gotten to see the first 4 films. I've heard the rest were really bad, but I still want to see them because I still loe the franchise. Maybe I'm a glutton for punishment, lol

[@jonathankui]

For those who are curious, I believe the rough translation may be "Nothing new, nothing interesting."

[@IamPinhead]

Awesome job. The acting wasn't really bad, because as a fan of Hellraiser I wouldn't have much of a reaction (I've dreamt about and sequentially killed all of them) either. I had a similar idea, but didn't have near the resources to carry it out. One question, however: What happened to Pinhead? You've even got Angelique, but none of the original cenobites.

[@jjkehrley]

I am a fairly new fan to the Hellraiser series, and I must say that was great. The only real disappointment, where was our dear friend Pinhead?

[@jonathankui]

There are a few artisans who make them as a side job... Not sure how many are still around, but the most widely advertised seller these days is at hellraiserpuzzlebox dotcom.

[@jonathankui]

That would be Spike, a cenobite that's in the deleted scenes of HELLRAISER: DEADER.

[@jonathankui]

@ gravedigger: I wouldn't mind some advice on better effects... If you have suggestions, I'd be glad to hear them (and see some of your examples, as well... Right now, all you have posted, though, are videos of women's backsides...)

[@kaijinu]

Spike. he was cut from Hellraiser VII. too bad, too. he looks cool (I heard he was 7 or 10 feet tall.)

[@jjkehrley]

I got ya, that would be pretty hard to do, make-up wise. But still great job man.

[@halfbreed1426]

what's the name of the song that plays during the credits? p.s. great work!

[@SKITTZ0]

Very well done indeed.

[@kennethlumanug3205]

Where's My Pinhead!!

[@Pheobus3309]

You've probably been asked this... But. . . I haven't seen an answer to it. For the Lament Configuration, what is that melody called and where did you find it? The puzzle box melody is haunting. xD

[@scraperindustry]

I was wondering why you turned pinhead into a hot bondage chick, but this movie was surprisingly well made. Where did you get all the props and stuff for this? How much was your budget? The cenobites are what really deserve some praise here. Did you use a vocoder for her voice? I also like the old Evanescence song you used in the credits :)

[@alkaidx10]

@nightelf2004 u and me both i want the hellraiser box too

[@WeisseDrache]

This was a nice fan-movie. Costumes were also "nicely" made. ( the fleshy parts looked rubbery though. And you can clearly see that it's just a thing she wears on head, you can see a bit of hair too. :/) But who am i to criticize? I haven't done any videos so far. And i've lost most if not all of my creativity. All i might be able to do is creature design. Not sure if i'm that good at it.

[@deadman2312]

spike looked awesome in this

[@DoctorChibi740]

What's the song from the credits? that was kinda cool.

[@jonathankui]

Thank you! That's a song by Evanescence called "Lies (remix)"...

[@jonathankui]

(Btw, "that other guy," macvillain24, was just being a troll. I have no problems with constructive and thoughtful criticism, indeed I encourage it! How else would I learn to do better? It's the DISMISSIVE criticism, the insults for insults' sake, that I find droll. People who leave cruel comments, without ever trying to make or learn what it takes to make a film of any level, are being spiteful just because they can. Wishing someone dead because you don't like their free fanfilm is ludicrous.)

[@vcdaniels]

Aww shit yeah! That IS something to think about. Who would win between Lucifer and Leviathan. I'm gonna put my chips on Lucifer though. He was created before there was a such thing as pain and his rebellion before there was man. He may have just been around longer to experience every type of suffering there is.

[@StJimmy89]

no pinhead but i understand why because if it isnt doug bradley it isnt pinhead!!!!

[@B10HaZaRD]

I know this is all water under the bridge, and by now you're on to bigger and better things, but I just wanted to say that I loved where it was going. The one thing that made me stop it half way was the acting. Everything else was dead on though.

[@jonathankui]

@ Tracefan89 - A discerning fan like yourself should recognize Angelique from Hellraiser: Bloodline, the fourth film in the series. If you watch that, you'll see who she is...