HELLUVA BOSS - SINSMAS // S2: Episode 12 - FINALE | Reaction

[@reyfan011]

It’s sad that I think Stolas sacrificing his life to save Blitz is what Via is referring to him breaking his promise that he’d never leave her. That even though she sees he’s trying to call her, the hurt that he was quick to be willing to die for someone else and leave her behind cuts too deep. And she already felt insecure about how much her dad loves her and blitz taking him away. So this didn’t help. Via I feel is just so full of hurt feelings she isn’t ready to hear Stolas’s side and is so in her head she’s convinced herself he’ll lie again.

[@skaynne54]

Well, not telling her the truth sooner hasn't really helped Stolas' case either. I know why he didn't do it, since he didn't wanted to ruin her childhood. But in the end, it only made things worse. One way or another, when two awful choices are presented to you, all you can do is chose for the least worst one. Which in this case, would've been to tell Octavia the truth sooner about the assassination attempt.

[@letzplayosaurus]

overall they hadn't properly communicated, in her case it's more anxiety that she likely copes with in a sort of anger. if she didn't find a reason to blame she would probably blame herself like she did in some of the lines at the end, so she tries to somewhat deal with the pain by telling herself it's blitzø's fault and that her dad chose him over her. Overall she is just very broken and confused, only knowing half of the story and being left with the worst possible scenario to go through.

[@ScotsAnimeReaction]

It's awful when you think about it. My concern is Stella & Andreaphus manipulating Octavia even further especially since she doesn't know that Stolas was almost assassinated by Striker & that they planned the whole thing to gain all of Stolas assets for 100 years & make her believe that Stolas abandoned her for Blitz back at the trail. Here I thought I couldn't hate Stella anymore than I do after seeing far they went.

[@thomashenry4798]

Sometimes a parent does the best they can. But they still wind up hurting the ones they love. Life isn't fair, it's not just, and sometimes it just sucks. But all you can do is take it day by day, and hope one day you get to the good parts.

[@sonyak.2325]

Ngl, your speech during Octavia's solo made me tear up a little (as did the solo itself). As a daughter of a deadbeat father who divorced my mother when I was 3, and then disappeared from my life for good when I was about 10, I am still trying to wrap my mind around how any parent would not feel any responsibility for their kid. I am 27 now and the wounds have healed, but hearing you talk about your kids just got me really emotional. They are very lucky to have you as a father! 👏

[@KBRoller]

My dad is not technically a deadbeat, but he's a terrible person who's driven his entire family (except my stepmom) away. I cut ties with him as much as I could when I turned 18, and while my sister tried with him for more years, she eventually gave up. He puts very little effort into seeing his own grandkids, except on the occasional birthday, even though he lives about 10 minutes away from them. Every once in awhile he'll pop back up and try to buy back our love and/or respect with a fancy dinner, and everyone sees through that and just complains about how he could possibly think that's how it works. My mom (who has always been there for us all) has spent a lot of time struggling to understand how a parent could put in so little effort for the sake of their own kids. I keep telling her it's simple: he's not a good person, so while he might care in his own way, he just always needs to be right more than he needs to be a good dad. That's always his priority: to be right and to prove he's right and to make sure everyone agrees he's right. And that's what he cares about more than his own kids and grandkids. I think he knows he's driven everyone away, and maybe on some level it hurts him, but not enough to change. He'll just always tell himself "everyone else is wrong, and things would be better if only they'd listen to me and do what I say", and maybe that'll help him sleep at night. But being a good parent isn't about being right, and it's not about making sure you children do what you want or become copies of you. It's about love and support, unconditionally, and about helping your kids (and grandkids) become the best versions of themselves, even if that's not who you wanted or expected them to be. Sorry for the rant; the whole topic just brought up.... things, and I hope this is a safe space to vent about them 😅

[@MobianBF]

Damn that sucks. I really could never understand how someone could be so heartless to do such a thing. I'm glad you were able to move on and accept what happened.

[@MobianBF]

​@@KBRollerThis sucks too lol. Though it seems like deep down, he's sad he can't be with you guys and wants to talk to you guys, but can't bring himself to change. If he didn't then he wouldn't have any reason to try to win you guys back with random dinners. Though I could just be naive.

[@tabithawilks4434]

Thank you so much for not judging Octavia harshly. I was abandoned by my stepfather over 10 years ago and it also started with my parents relationship tanking after being on the rocks for a very long time, and I desperately tried to reach him for the first couple of years, but he made real no effort to talk to me. As soon as he left my mother before the divorce was finalized, he ended up getting another woman pregnant and was so excited to be a dad with his own child. I’ll never forget that pain of realizing my sister and I would never be enough to make him feel like a fulfilled dad. I had to convince myself I hated him even though I don’t, and I still have nightmares him coming back and being the dad he should’ve been. I should be happy in these dreams, but Im not because I know it’s not true. The only way for me to cope is to bury these feelings and ignore the immense pain. This video helped me so much because I can see what a loving father you are and I yearn for that same level of devotion that you have for your children. Thank you so much for this much needed peace of mind.

[@m0ejo324]

No judgment on you or anything that is like the opposite of Stolas trying to do. Octavia literally knows her mom is cutting between her and Stolas and she literally hears her mom and her uncle laughing at him trying to reach her so at least for me I will judge her especially since before this she had two heartfelt talks with him.

[@SpamorammA]

Wait, I just realized he uses his ice limbs like spider legs to spin the dragon out of ice, thats actually metal as fuck.

[@MobianBF]

This episode was HEAVY. Every character was going through heavy emotions. Stolas: The one going through the most. Lost his riches, home, powers, but most of all, his daughter. She sees the situation as him loving Blitz more than her. Not only that but he's learning how to be in a relationship with Blitz. Blitz: Learning how to be a loving and supportive partner for Stolas and wanting to build a family with him. Octavia: Dealing with her emotions and not having her father around. She thinks that he just simply doesn't care for her and that she was just a burden to him. Loona: She felt what it would be like to almost lose Blitz and now sees that she loves and cares for him, and is now trying to make that more apparent. Millie: Is pregnant and doesn't know how to break it to Moxxie. (and is obviously going through all of the struggles of pregnancy) Moxxie: Is seeing the things Millie is going through but doesn't know exactly what it is. Lot of stuff to unpack here lol.

[@Yaahello]

I think some of us coming from broken homes WISH we had a parent that actually gave AF about us half of what Dave does. Man really is a outstanding parent and person.

[@marcelleskeaton6819]

That song Via did almost brought me to tears especially when she brought in pieces from Stolas's song from the beginning of the series

[@Angelstorm8]

I can understand where both stolas and octavia come from. Stolas and blitzo love and care for eachother and though it wasn't always a good relationship. blitzo did sort of help chase away some of Stella's abusive actions toward stolas. yet octavia's emotionally delicate state is further amplified by Stella's toxicity. I hope they can rekindle their relationship in the next season because it was all Stella's fault

[@Zebulization]

"Fun is free, but we can afford nice things." Stolas must be quoting a tutor or a nanny who told him that every time he wanted to have fun as a child. It is sad that he seems to believe it's true as an adult.

[@SaiyanSerenityV]

The singer in the last song is Benny Benack!! He's well known for doing a fantastic Frank Sinatra vocal. I knew him previously from his collabs with the 8 Bit Big Band. He's also a great trumpet player.

[@paulinettejaenquirindongor9495]

I am not a mom yet and I felt Stolas' pain. Plus I can relate to Via's pain because my dad cheated on my mom with a man. I don't have a close relationship with him because he is emotionally distant and I have tried to form a connection. I still struggle with this pain, of not being enough for him no matter what I do. I have come to terms with it, but like Via, it hurts.

[@MobianBF]

Jesus so you feel how she feels so perfectly lmao. The same situation down to a T.

[@calebmaybin6896]

Loona's friends circle has expanded and it looks as if she and Beelzebub have patched things up (honey beer, open heart shirts, and Bee even tried to save Loona and I.M.P. with a fair trial). Perhaps the 2 will have a heart-to-heart next season.

[@Lemonmidnight]

Your voice is so soothing 😭

[@deondrex18k]

Don't fall and get rizzed up 😂

[@tallyho7268]

I feel like his relationship with Via wouldn't be so strained if he just acknowledged her feelings. He keeps saying "but, but, BUT". APOLOGIZE TO YOUR CHILD, SIR!

[@artemisvoncourt7578]

i related to this episode heavily as a daughter... this episode got me right in the feels, and that song by octavia how its a remix of stolas' season 1 episode 2 song to her when she was young "you will be ok" really made everything hit harder

[@lifewithcosmic]

Yea this finale hurts 😭 Blitz is happy even if its an illusion while stolas can't stop thinking about his daughter

[@Cursedzeba]

I don’t think it is an illusion. Not anymore at least, in the final scene with them dancing and just spending time with everyone was the most genuine part I have seen in their relationship

[@KBRoller]

I think it's more just a reversal of roles. Blitz could never believe their relationship was real, while Stolas always fantasized about it being so. Now, Blitz knows it's real and is fantasizing about a life together, while Stolas is broken and thinks it was all stupid fantasies that can never be real. The pendulum has swung the other way, and eventually (hopefully) they'll meet in the middle, where they can both settle on a real life together.

[@yaboyospoons7570]

I'm not a father, but a much older brother. I raised her for a year when no one else would when I was 14. I can't see her regularly anymore, and all I can hope is that she doesn't grow to hate me. Stolas is living the bad ending for me, and I hope I never do.

[@Daemonworks]

The sad part is... she's not wrong. She's not entirely right, but Stolas's whole deal is that he does mishandling things. I've said this many times, but the man's father was cold and distant, he was raised by servants and books, and while he's absolutely tried his level best to do better... it shows. (And not just in his relationship with Via...)

[@KBRoller]

A lot of people are giving Via shit for how she acts here (and thank you for not being one of those people), but it's understandable if you look from her perspective. First of all, she doesn't know Stolas has been trying to call her for a month (she had her headphones in when Stella said that). So from her perspective, she saw her father rush to risk his actual life for Blitz, call once, and then never try calling again. And she's been afraid he'd leave the family for Blitz as far back as season 1 episode 2, Loo Loo Land, so this whole thing just reinforces to her that her fears were right. Then there's the fact that she's only 17, and has grown up for 17 years in the same family situation until now. Toxic as it was, it was her family, and to her the family unit they had is still indivisible. It's the whole "you mess with any of my crew, you mess with all of my crew" thing: if the family is atomic, then "Mom wasn't good enough for you" is the same as "Mom and I aren't good enough for you". She hasn't learned yet the difference between "a family" and "individuals who make up a family", and that's important for her to understand where Stolas was coming from. She needs to learn that in order to understand that Stella isn't enough for Stolas, but that Via absolutely is, and both things can be true. I hope she learns that before the 100 years are up, because that's a long time, seemingly even for goetia.

[@VerchielxKanda]

Millie was crying because she isn't ready to be a mama and she's debating aborting the baby before Moxxie finds out. Having many younger siblings, she knows a baby is a full-time commitment, and she isn't ready to give up doing what she loves.

[@demonic_myst4503]

Stolas being too ashamed fo tell blitz about his anti depressents damn , if he did it aouldnt be hard get them its not even money that one talk to fizz to get ozzy to get them or talk to luna to to get bee to get them

[@KBRoller]

I mean, maybe, but they're not really under Ozzie's or Bee's jurisdiction. They're Belphagor's. I don't know if anyone has an in with Bel; the only thing we know about her is that Bee has to steal from her.

[@Serial_Designation_FS]

What pains me, is that Octavia's hate kinda doesn't make sense. She Should know that stolas had no choice, and couldn't enter the palace or see his daughter! She watched the trial with her own eyes and even Stella keeps taking her phone away just so she can't call Stolas back

[@whatitdodave]

Yeah it doesn’t but that’s legit how kids see things sometimes.

[@dodiswatchbobobo]

He walked right up to the mansion and started punching Andrealphus in the face. Took him a month. And he promised her in ep 2 that he’d never run off with Blitzø somewhere she couldn’t find him. Then he ran out and put his head on the chopping block without a goodbye. He’s not a bad dad at all, but he is kinda absentminded and that makes him a little bit of a deadbeat.

[@r-171]

Stolas was prepared to die so that Blitzø wouldn’t. He literally put his head on the chopping and resigned to that fate, without ever once considering what would happen to Octavia until it was revealed that he’d be allowed to live. Meaning, even if she just wasn’t on his mind at the time, Stolas chose to die in Blitzø’s place and leave Octavia to her current fate of being forced to live with her mother and uncle. Stolas then literally acknowledges that it was ultimately *his* choices that caused all of this, that he was the one who gave up everything for Blitzø, effectively choosing him over her, just like she said.

[@Yukooo333]

How is it doesn't make sense? I don't get it... Ocatavia was mad at his father for choosing to save Blitz which makes him not able to be close to her. She was mad that her father chooses to be with Blitz (by the action Stolas did), that is how the way she think it is... am i wrong?

[@Serial_Designation_FS]

@r-171 oooooh yeah fair

[@absurdesuwu]

Choices have consequences, just like how a person is responsible for what situation they put themselves. Someone taught this to me from a former workplace. My situation was "If you don't like where you are in the now and refuse to change, you can only blame yourself for where you are, only you yourself can decide on a better choice". I see KZbin shorts of people getting into road rage and feed into it for views, It's not going to save them from a higher insurance bill once the insurance company sees they are making money from videos.

[@KBRoller]

That's true, but it's also not the entire story. A person's situation is a combination of factors, not just one. Your actions have consequences, and your hard work (or lack thereof) contributes to your situation, but other peoples' actions also have consequences that can affect you, too. And so does just blind chance. It's nice to pretend everyone has the same opportunities, and with enough hard work anyone can be successful at anything, but that's just not true. Two people can both put in 110%, and one can end up successful while the other gets screwed, because one had better opportunities for that work to pay off. That's not discounting hard work ethic: work is a necessary factor to success, it's just not the only one. Just like you need to breathe to survive, but you can't survive on breathing alone (all the air in the world won't feed you or give you water or shelter you from the cold or heal you when you're sick, etc.), you need hard work to succeed, but you can't succeed on hard work alone. That's why it's important to make efforts not only to help ourselves, but to help others less fortunate than we were; and not to immediately blame people for their misfortunes. If you see someone homeless on the side of the road, asking for some money for food, it's important not to immediately think, "get a job, bum," and not to assume they just haven't tried "hard enough" -- you don't know how hard they tried and maybe still fell anyway. Society only works if we assume the best in each other until proven wrong, and help others when they're struggling, instead of assuming all major problems are self-inflicted. (By the way, for anyone interested in the science of that last sentence: there was a study done using computer simulations of a huge number of different strategies for dealing with people who may choose to help or hurt you. Turns out the strategy that results in the most people getting the most out of the simulation -- the most people faring the best overall -- has three parts: first, always try to help without assuming malice; second, if someone wrongs you, immediately retaliate *proportionately;* and third, after the retaliation, forgive them and don't hold grudges, unless/until the next time they hurt you. In other words, helping each other out and assuming the best in people, even after they've hurt you -- with one and only one punishment per crime -- works out best for everyone in the long run.)

[@absurdesuwu]

@@KBRoller My argument is if we assume the best in each and every one person that is homeless and offer food or money to them, that this will not alleviate the problem we are still facing today, and this gives the notion that anyone can take advantage of the kindness of others.I have no doubt the science to put this into a simulation would work but this isn't how the real world operates. Not everyone you know was brought up or believes in the three parts you have listed, but I agree it would be a step in the right direction. From what I said before I was more stating a situation where I was working, I didn't feel like I wanted to put myself in the danger of hazard material in the workplace, however I stayed at the job despite my feelings. Much later I should have moved on to a different job where I felt more comfortable in the workplace. This is an example of "I am responsible for where I am now, and I can only blame myself for the situation I put myself in". Choices were made and I made mine. I don't think filming road rage and instigating road rage is going to go over well with the insurance company. They made that choice too.

[@KBRoller]

@@absurdesuwu While it's true it won't alleviate the problem for everyone, it can help alleviate the problem some for the person you're helping. There's no reason we have to choose between helping individuals now and working to fix the societal problems on a larger scale; we can do both. You can think that helping people teaches them that they can take advantage of you, but that's only assuming they *want* to take advantage of you. If they just actually need help, then helping them makes them more likely to help you if/when they can. Or at the very least, it makes them grateful for you. There are people who are out to get you, but not everyone is, and people who need help aren't typically looking for a way to bite the hand that feeds them. The simulation experiment wasn't "something that only works in simulation". Its intention was to show what works for *any* scenario that can be reduced to that general, simplified case, which the real world does. It's not about whether other people believe in it, it's just about what happens. The strategy that works continues to work against any other strategy, even if the other person didn't follow it. (In fact, the point of the simulation is that all strategies were pitted against all other strategies, and this one worked best against *any other.* ) In other words, following those steps even against other people who won't follow them *still works out best for everyone.* If you hold grudges, you screw yourself over. If you assume the worst, you'll hurt others first, and they'll retaliate. If you don't help others, they won't help you when you need it. It's not about "the real world, honey"; it's about the game theory basis for altruism. Your specific examples are indeed something that a person can change for themselves, but they are cherry-picked. If a person is looking for a job and applying everywhere, but no one is hiring, they don't really have a choice. If a person has medical bills that exceed their income, they don't really have a choice. If a person has an addiction and no support to help beat it, they don't really have a choice. And those are just things from the top of my head. There are many situations that a person has no control over. You can feel free to live your life assuming everyone has the same opportunities, and ignoring those who don't as "just trying to take advantage". But for the number of people that not only hurts, but destroys, I can't in good conscience live like that. I'm not the most successful person right now, though I've had periods of success in my life, but I'm very well aware of the opportunities I've been given that others aren't, and the blind luck I've stumbled into that others haven't. There are so many points in my life where if just one person decided, "Nah, he doesn't deserve my help," I'd be homeless right now, if even still alive. So to me, thinking like that just spreads pain and misery. We live in a society where we all depend on each other to live; to limit that support to "what can I sell them?" is small-minded and reduces the amount of empathy and thriving overall.

[@absurdesuwu]

@@KBRoller I never said I held grudges or not put in an effort to help someone in need not sure why you choose to make the argument, but from my perspective it takes a balance of knowing they want to change or are taking advantage of your kindness. Someone who asks you everyday for $5 to gamble it away on lotto isn't asking for help. This isn't going to change what they do with it. Someone who wants to change acts differently than someone who doesn't. In your case you wanted to fix your life and get back on track it sounds like you found some people who saw that in you. No, not everyone has the same opportunities in life but you can do things to make the most out of the situations you have been given in life. The choices you make and the people you hang around can make a difference. Involve yourself in the communities, church groups and more. People come together when times are bad. You can't help people who don't want to help themselves.

[@KBRoller]

@@absurdesuwu My point is that you don't know what other peoples' situations are. Yes, asking for money to gamble away every day is bad, but when's the last time someone you didn't know asked you for money and then told you "I'm going to gamble this away"? My point is that when someone needs help, you usually don't *know* why they need help, nor what they're going to do with your help. To assume people asking for help aren't "trying hard enough" and don't want to help themselves and will just throw away your help... that assumption is what I'm talking about. As for your suggestions of how people can seemingly always help themselves... "church groups" don't apply to everyone, and community help typically has a limit. "People come together when times are bad" isn't really true; people come together when times are bad *for them,* but less often do they come together with people for whom times are bad if times are good for themselves. It happens, sure, but it's not ubiquitous as it should be. Because a lot of people are selfish and won't help unless there's something "in it for them", and many more people than that are like you and assume people who need help won't "properly" accept that help without taking advantage of it, so they don't try. I'll give you an example of what I mean by that. When I was in high school, a girl in my school had cystic fibrosis and needed a lung transplant. So the school started a fundraised for her. I had just started my first job, and had no expenses, so I decided I'd donate $40 to the fund. My mom asked, "Oh, is she a friend of yours?" And I said, "No, I don't know her. Never met her." My mom was shocked. "If you don't know her, then why are you donating so much? Maybe bring it down to like... $10 or something?" I was confused. I couldn't understand why someone's literal life should be worth less just because I didn't personally know them. I donated the $40 anyway. I got into school early the next day to head to the office and donate, and when I did, the lady at the desk pointed to a banner and said I could write my name on it as a donator. I politely declined. At that moment, while she was counting the money, my homeroom teacher walked by, headed to her classroom. When I got to homeroom (with no one else there, since I was early), my teacher said, "I saw you donate. That was a lot of money. Is she a friend of yours?" Once again, the idea that "people's lives are only worth much if you personally know them" was being espoused to me. I said I didn't know her, and the teacher was also shocked. "Wow. That was very generous of you." A few days later, an acquaintance of mine was bragging about how he'd donated 25 cents -- which of course makes no difference to a medical bill -- so he could put his name on the banner. And I was disgusted. I think my story highlights two different issues: you have people who only help out the minimum they possibly can in order to get recognition or some other gain out of it. And then you have the people who help out, but devalue the lives of anyone they don't personally know, as if them knowing you somehow makes them more worthy. Fast-forward several years, and I was with my dad shopping. As we're leaving, a homeless woman in the parking lot is trying to sell flowers for a bit of money. My dad goes up to talk to her, and while I couldn't hear what he said, he then came back to the car without helping her. I asked why he hadn't helped; he said, "I'm sure she'd only have spent it on booze. I told her she should come to church if she really wanted help, and she said no." I didn't argue with him, because I knew it would be talking to a wall, but "Church isn't a place for me" is not the same as "I don't want to help myself and will drink away any money you give me." There are many reasons someone wouldn't want to go to a church. But the point is, my dad didn't care about any other reasons. He'd made up his mind about her: "She didn't want to go my church, therefore she doesn't want to do anything to help herself and I shouldn't bother helping her." That's the third kind of issue: people who think "if someone doesn't do what I would do, if they don't do what I tell them to do, then they aren't *really* trying to help themselves, and they don't deserve for me to try because I *know* they'll take advantage anyway." That's projection, and you don't know anything at all about them.

[@d-wolfe7118]

I subscribed after this video. Your voice is very calming and you’re very wise

[@Cursedzeba]

Gods this episode hurt. My dad got me in the divorce as a kid and he did everything he could to give me a good home, and seeing stolas trying his best and Octavia so hurt got me in the heart. Especially with how evil her mother is being and my evil stepmother. I get why Octavia is so angry and confused with everything going on, its like she sees him loving Blitz and thinks he loves her less because of what has happened. Season 3 cannot come soon enough

[@Y.Gigantae]

I shake on the entire body during the whole episode! And I almost cried!

[@Y.Gigantae]

29:10 Stopping there at the right moment is hilarious! 😂

[@Masmith55439]

no episode has made me cry as hard as the part where octavia turns away from stolas

[@SakyTenraku]

Stolas loves her. She doesn't understand why he's done the things he's done. He needs to just tell her. Tell her why he chose blitz. Tell her why he had to save his life. Tell her why her mother hates him. Tell her everything. Millie's story also seems tragic. We can't know yet, but it feels like the reason she's not happy about it and seemingly doesn't want to tell Moxxie could be a few things; maybe she just doesn't want a kid right now, because they just started their lives together and she's also an assassin for hire? Maybe it's because she herself was not faithful? Maybe she thinks it's a bad time right now because of what Stolas is going through? There's so many possibilities, but the simple fact alone that she's scared and unsure what to do is unnerving.

[@docnightmares8291]

It might not be easy for Stolas to tell her everything, considering she isn't willing to listen to him anymore, and then there's Stella and Andrealphus who'll be trying to keep him away.

[@KBRoller]

Those are the things Via needs to understand, but right now she's too hurt to believe them. So he could tell her all day until he suffocates, but if she doesn't believe him, it won't matter. She's got to learn for herself, from her own experiences, the difference between "We weren't enough for you" and "Mom wasn't enough for you". Maybe just living with Stella long enough will make that clear to her; maybe it'll take something more. But it's something just words aren't enough to communicate.

[@miriam_06]

The chillest reaction I've ever seen

[@alchemicpink2392]

What I love about Octavia's development here is that she isn't even wrong. It might not have been Stolas' intention, but in a million small ways and a couple of very big ways: He did choose Blitzo over his original life, and that includes her. Now what she'll do when she finds out that a big reason Stolas was put in a situation where he felt like he had to make the ultimate choice being Andy's machinations and her mother's genuine, actual and palpable disdain for Stolas (which Octavia is blind to, because Stella hasn't changed so for all she knows that's just what a mother is like) is the question for her going forward.

[@KBRoller]

Her view is understandable, but that doesn't mean she isn't wrong. The nuance here that Via doesn't yet understand, being 17 and having grown up in the same family unit her entire life, is that he didn't choose Blitz over everything in his previous life. He chose Blitz over Stella... and that's it. To Via, there's no difference -- family is family, you mess with one then you mess with all -- but there *is* a difference, and it's important. He chose Blitz over Stella, and then chose to save a life, neither of which is wrong, and neither of which is choosing anything "over Via". Once Via understands that Stella isn't enough for Stolas, but Via is more than enough, and both things can be (and are) true at the same time -- then she'll be able to forgive him. But that's something she's got to learn through her own experience, because right now she's too hurt to believe it.

[@Y.Gigantae]

29:31 Mammonopolli

[@Heiress2543]

22:01 the censor on the mouth in this episode and following episodes in the upcoming season 3 are my fault do to me accidentally indirectly telling Vivz that I can read animated lips in the season 2 episode 4 comments 😅 sorry ya'll

[@calebmaybin6896]

In a way this kinda rings similar to the lesson of Rocky Horror Picture Show - the Balance of Romance. Romance is a mix of Love and Passion: Brad and Janet were all Love and no Passion but soon reversed to too much Passion that they both cheated on each other; whilst Dr. Frank N Furter was all Passion by never being satisfied and moving on to other interests. Stolas has to relearn his love and temper his passion as his intimate desires blinded him to those who needed him. Same with Blitzo who's so distracted with proving his worth to others he fractured his relationships with his sister, friend, and co-workers. Loona was humbled by Vortex, possibly Beelzebub (she did try to save Loona and the rest of I.M.P. with a fair trial), and now has 2 new friends so she's making tremendous progress.

[@nikoblack1272]

people are way harder on Octavia than any of the fully mature adults making life-altering choices she knows nothing about

[@snaVyD]

I’m worried about Stolas’ expression in the end. It looked like he’s having 2nd thoughts whether it’s really worth to save Blitz. Hopefully they’re both still together till the finale, and Octavia learned what her mom planned and did to Stolas; then will run to her dad and apologize for turning her back on him. 😢

[@esterpassagrilli7821]

0:53 NOT WITH THE BOJACK REFERENCE LOL

[@SSP-3010]

I FREAKING LOVE THE SONG AT THE ENDD RAHHHH

[@HttydvigcupD]

I almost cried on this episode 😭

[@ThatOneEmuGuy]

THE SHIP IS SAILING YALL!!!

[@newsie9721]

0:49 what a grade A pun!!! 😂

[@LunarBeyonce-sr3jv]

I recently found this channel and i already dig it.

[@milesrogers7169]

23:39 DAMN WIDD BLITZ AND THE GANG SPUN ANDREALPHUS'S BLOCK THEY AINT LACKING

[@XDKILLA21]

0:48 GET OU-!!

[@ReshiramMaster14]

This finale destroyed me

[@emeraldmorgan6644]

I wonder if loona is a descendent of Marchosias a wolf goetia?

[@KBRoller]

Unlikely, as it seems all hellhounds in the Helluverse descend from Beelzebub. Buuuttttt that would be really interesting; Marchosias is a marquis, putting him just one rank below Stolas & co., so if they stick with that *and* if they do say Loona is a descendent of him, then it would make Loona "noble but still not as high class as Stolas, Stella, or Andrealphus" -- which would be an interesting class dynamic for Stella and Andy to have to contend with. Loona *was* an orphan, so if they want to do it, technically it's possible her father is Marchosias instead of a hellhound and no one knew. Like a mixed-race person that people just assume are one race because they "pass".

[@johnbzn6508]

Demons, bleed, black blood

[@kaidennoctiskyuubi1160]

Wait until Octavia learns the truth, she'll be extremely angry

[@kdr8898]

Haven’t slept been waiting for this reaction!!!!!

[@DiceLegendaryWarrior]

Personally Stolas was one of my favorite characters...But lately that has been dwindling cause he keeps choosing Blitz over his daughter and acting like Blitz is the only good thing in his life...I can see why Via is upset...Cause i dealt with the feelings she is...I had a parent who chose loving their partner over loving me We've seen Stolas and Via hang out exactly one episode and actually interact in 2 excluding this one, that would be Loo Loo Land and the episode where Via runs away. I hate how they treat Stolas like a baby and downplay all of his flaws while playing up all of Blitz's flaws

[@chrisidornigie]

Stolas ALSO wanted a loving relationship and not be abused. He wanted both! Perhaps you should reflect on your part in your issue’s

[@DiceLegendaryWarrior]

@@chrisidornigie well I'm sorry to tell you that life doesn't work to what you want...Whatever he wanted doesn't change the fact he chose his love over his daughter it's that simple...He was being "not abused" he already divorced Stella and kicked her out...Had he just stopped messing around with blitz she wouldn't have been reintroduced into his life with leverage over him cause of him committing crimes for some guy that until now refused to show him any love back. The amount of neglect Blitz showed while Stolas was still falling head over heels for him while ignoring his daughter is insanity to me

[@tiduswordplayer]

@@DiceLegendaryWarrior yes the neglect is very apparent yet everyone is quick to disregard the fact that despite how much he loves Via he CONSTANTLY makes her feel second with his actions

[@viennasavage9110]

@@DiceLegendaryWarrior You forget that he wasnt "messing around" with Blitzo. He actively left Blitzo and distanced himself. The issue was that Blitzo was going to *die* . It's perfectly reasonable for Stolas not to want to let someone he loved die.

[@DiceLegendaryWarrior]

@@viennasavage9110 ok...And the only way to solve that was to go and make it seem like he's the one who committed crime and put his life on the line when he knows his daughter has only him or an abusive mother? He either doesn't care about Via as much as he claims or he is just an idiot

[@m0ejo324]

Here is my problem with Octavia acting the way she is. Loo Loo Land they had a conversation about no matter what happens he doesn't blame her. Seeing Stars he literally had a breakdown looking for her and Luna told Octavia and Octavia seemed happy to hear that. It is kinda annoying that she reacted the way she did, and yes I know she probably doesn't truly understand but at the same time you can only tell someone something so much till it gets annoying and at this point it is annoying.

[@shocalremix]

Its so bittersweet

[@marleiaisenhoward1891]

You’re my favorite reactor great again please react to party of your life by Voiceplay 😊😊 nailed it at usual ❤❤❤

[@FredbonFilms]

DAVE!!!!

[@johnbzn6508]

I love this

[@KyleDGrizzly]

What she did to her dad wasn’t fair. He saved Blitz from DEATH, and he loves her. Not that it’s wrong for anyone to feel that way, but to not let him explain and cut him off that is torture for her father. He never really let her down before then, so her acting like he’s lied dozens of times is just not right. 🥺

[@seth-ek1uo]

the song in this one was good but not there best but idk maybe it will grow on me

[@potankoprime]

i have a theory as to why Millie reacted the way she did when she found out she was pregnant. But first, excellent video! It's cool seeing the perspective of a father on these, considering it's content, and I can totally see how that would be chilling to see Octavia reject Stolas. I can totally see this having gone differently had Stolas chosen his words differently, but I feel like Octavia is in a hurt enough state that no matter what he said, it probably would've only succeeded in pushing her further away. I think she's gonna have to have a conversation with someone from outside their relationship before they patch things up. With Millie I'm almost jumping down conspiracy thinking levels I feel, but what if she cheated? And she either isn't sure who the father is or she's certain it isn't Moxxie's? There's no way you show a relationship as amazing as theirs and have her breaking down over the phone with her sister saying idk what to do, instead of her being thrilled to immediately go tell her partner? And the "you know I love you?" trying to butter him up first before dropping some less than stellar news? But idk, those are my thoughts. Sorry for the paragraphs, but this episode got my plot senses tingling!

[@RealestShaggyRogers]

She was experiencing the pregnancy scare, it's fairly common among mothers conceiving their first born, doesn't neccesarily mean that she cheated, she just wants to make sure Moxie wants to be there with her

[@icecreamkitty2735]

​@RealestShaggyRogers i swear this Fandom is allergic to any form of happiness

[@lifewithcosmic]

Or...she's not ready to be a mother ? Having a child Is hard work specially when you come from a big family and I don't think she feels like being a mother and giving her work to stay at home

[@Daemonworks]

Millie was expressly created to be the one happy, well-adjusted person who has most everything she wants in life to contrast the fact that /everyone/ else in both series is a traumaball, so going to say not particularly likely. On top of that that'd be a great way to just set the fandom on fire in the least pleasant way possible. Honestly? Probably more anxiety over how Moxxie and others will react, sees it in conflict with the life she has which /is/ pretty much precisely what she wants it to be... and she may just have no interest in having children. Media generally pretends everyone wants to have kids, but there's a lot of folks who don't. It'd be in keeping for Vivzie to decide to explore that. Though if she does, I'd expect it'd turn out to be a false positive.

[@SparkleDerPolarfuchs]

first!

[@im_c0ld451]

Watched this twice, you seemed the teeny tiniest bit high the entire time and its great

[@whatitdodave]

LOL. I don't smoke but I do record my videos right after I get off my 9-5 and put my kids to sleep, so I'm plenty drained. .

[@johnbzn6508]

I love this