Help! I'm Lost - General Aviation Lost Procedures

[@Vansaircraftbuilders]

Love it! Famous quote: "Not lost... just some misplaced airports!" Keep em' coming!

[@Shannonbarnesdr1]

LMAO im stealing that !

[@alanjwalker249]

12 for 12, famous quote “airport with Cessna circling overhead please identify yourself” :-)

[@1978bbt]

I learned to fly in the 1960's. No glass panels, very few VORs, no cell phones, etc. If you were buzzing along at 1000 AGL almost any town you came across had a water tower. They all had the name of the town painted on them, still do.

[@tomdavis3038]

That’s a WTPS Cheers

[@bobbrandt6383]

Great video. Reminded me of the time back in the 80’s when I got lost on a cross country flight about the same time my fuel quantity was hitting reserve and I had to fight to control panic while I proceeded to find my location. First I tried to triangulate my position with two VOR’s but didn’t have enough signal strength from the second VOR so I made a call on 122.8 and told them I was lost in a general area from my last known landmark on my sectional. A calming voice came on and asked me if I could identify several landmarks which I couldn’t but communicating with someone helped to control the panic and as I was circling at a 1000ft. AGL I looked down and I was right over a 3000ft. runway and I proceeded to land and fill up without any further issues. Needless to say I started working on my instrument rating the following week.

[@williamschmitz8715]

You speak the truth. Happened to me a couple of years ago...at the time I was an 800+ hour, 18-year private pilot. In my local area (southeastern SC). Took off to watch sunset over Lake Moultrie after doing some maintenance one Friday evening. Didn't have a chart or the ipad, and my old Apollo GPS was toast (replaced later that year with a new Garmin)- but I was just going 25 miles away, in territory I knew really well. Not surprisingly, after sunset it got dark. For the trip home I thought I'd cheat it a little to the right to give the CHS class C a wider berth. Next thing I know all the visual nav cues I knew so well for 10 years were either gone or made no sense. In a place I knew very well I was completely disoriented in the dark. Very unnerving. Bumbled around in denial for over a half hour, was about to climb and ask for help from CHS approach (though unbeknownst to me I was much closer to CAE at that point)- but I was able to get a fix on google maps on the phone- and it all came together. Completely forgot about the phone. Found I-26 and got to my home field. At least I didn't have to worry about fuel. I would never have believed this situation possible for me until that evening. Might have had an extra cocktail that night when I got home...shook me up more than I wanted to admit.

[@marsgal42]

In mountain flying training we're taught to keep a breadcrumb trail, a log of times and landmarks. If you get lost at least you know when the last place and time was where you knew where you were.

[@1dgram]

12 for 12 Seeing the Stratus 3 there made me smile as you spoke about being lost.

[@kevindavis8175]

2:55 If you’re not ion Flight Following and don’t know what frequency to call, 121.5 is available. That or the universe FSS frequency (I believe 122.2).

[@kam1583]

In '76, I got lost as a 16 yr old flying to Winchester, Va when I couldn't dial up the Martinsburg VOR and drifted 20 mi S of course, near camp David. Too panicked to think about triangulation, I called mayday on 121.5. The controller from Andrews Airforce base was very calming and handed me off to another at Washington National (now Reagan). The ending was fine and ATC couldn't stop commending me for my actions. It was a very good learning experience early in my training.

[@suntzu5562]

Hey man, Winchester is my home airport! I remember on my first solo I went up to Martinsburg and got all flustered in the pattern with the c17s. Suffice to say the controller understood my botched radio calls!

[@kam1583]

@@suntzu5562 interesting. I was worried about being over camp david and being downed!

[@ranjrog]

12 for 12. Keep ‘em coming!!

[@aciagriculturalconstructio2264]

That's why I always fly IFR whenever I'm in unfamiliar territory. I fly Roads

[@josephbjornstad3065]

12 of 12 ... Really enjoying this series. They are continually helping to not only reenforce what I've learned but educate my young pilot self on areas I didn't know.

[@Ellexis]

Back “in the day” before GPS aids, Foreflight, etc., when we were using only paper Sectionals, this was way more common. Then, we would triangulate three VORs and with each one draw a line on your Sectional. Where all three lines intersect, that’s where you are. Easy peasy.

[@marklines4396]

Great video. Love that you weren’t even touching the controls while you did this confidence inspiring!

[@dannycnoble]

Jason, due to life events i had to pause my traing an cancle my membership. But like youbsay a good pilot is always learning. So while i may not be in the school right now. Inam still reading and watching your videos so when i get this other issue handled i can restart training and not be so far behind. Your ground school is great. Well worth the price of admission.

[@onepropmind]

Perfect timing! Checkride next week! Great video!

[@evanhansen9357]

12/12 headed for 31/31. Staying oriented with where you are is part of good situational awareness. That said, a great lesson in how to “fix” being lost.

[@AsianBlueIsland]

Great video! Thank you. I appreciate how you always add 'blessed' at the end of your video's.

[@Pilot.Lindsay]

Thanks for Sharing

[@willleaton2827]

As a student pilot, at around 30 hours approaching my checkride, your videos have been such a huge help for me to keep learning even when I'm at work or driving home. They've even helped me in being prepared for each flight with my CFI so I can try to stay ahead of the lessons, and stay ahead of the plane. Thanks for making these videos!

[@dennisharrington6055]

Thanks

[@smithbe4042]

It was very easy to get lost back when I started in 2000, in the midwest with no GPS. Someone in the flight school descended to read the name on a water tower. Seemed to work.

[@gtmako]

Great Video, you're rocking your way to 31 for 31 ;)

[@markfacer2296]

Great reminder!

[@dougcooper4917]

Excellent Video Jason! Thank You.

[@jonathanschnell382]

12 for 12! Great series, Jason and MzeroA team!

[@arthurbrumagem3844]

I always fly VFR so I can see landmarks if need be. As I taught navigation in the army for 15 of my 23 yrs getting lost isn’t an issue as long as I have two VORs ( or even one). Years ago I was talking to Chicago flightwatch when a kid came on the freq who was lost. I told flightwatch I would help him ( he was in Indiana going to Mich ). He had maps so I told him to fly to the nearest water tower and read the towns name off that and go from there. I was over Indiana as well so I stayed with him until he got oriented.

[@blueberrymohffin729]

Hey Jason, I am 12 for 12! 😊

[@bryant3483]

12 4 12. In the early days of my flight training when I was allowed to solo I did find myself in different regions other than my practice area. Needless to say the familiar landmarks were no longer there so instinctively I did a 180° turn and through the Haze , scattered clouds I could eventually make out the Detroit skyline. A steady course to the west got me back to CYQG Windsor.I remember thinking back then that it would be so embarrassing to have to call ATC to get a vector to come back home although that is long behind me now . I find myself at times I like to climb a little higher just to get a better Birdseye view and the lay of the land regardless of the GPS systems I do incorporate in my cross-country travels now…..

[@StrokeMahEgo]

If you have a destination in mind, flight following + asking for a vector is extremely useful.

[@garylong486]

12 for 12. Look forward to the videos every morning.

[@BlaineNay]

In the days before GPS, ADS-B, and Capstone, I had plenty of experience flying in Alaska's Bush. Many of the villages had no approach let alone a NavAid. So, we'd use dead reckoning to find these villages. But, in the winter, to our white-man's eyes, the villages and runways were often indistinguishable from the tundra. No problem. Just watch the heads of the passengers. That village is their home and they know the terrain. When their head turned, it invariably followed the location of their village and we knew it was time to turn around and land. We called the phenomenon the "Eskimo ADF". Have I been lost? No. But without the Eskimo ADF, I surely would have been.

[@EagleSynthetics]

12 for 12. I carry a sectional chart with me as a backup in case my navigation instruments and iPad fail. I’m just getting ready to solo and once again your tips is enhancing my flight training. Thanks.

[@leebrooke1831]

12 for 12. My first few flights were scary because I didn’t recognize where I was, now whenever I fly I have done the ‘required’ preflight on a sectional and see, subconsciously, identifiers like towers, railroads etc. The five c’s will now be a new addition to my flight bag.

[@drcode4]

12 for 12...Haven't got lost...yet. Thanks Jason.

[@patrioticamerican1424]

12 for 12!! Good info here!!!

[@joefitzpatrick8414]

12 for 12. Loving this!!!!!!

[@joegideon6730]

Fantastic as always!! Everyone should know this and simulate it to develop muscle memory in your brain.

[@maritestaylor8458]

Awesome 12/12 another great video.

[@gocanada9749]

WOW..... I remember right after I soloed out of S Lakeland, flying along then I thought - Where the hell am I, I don't recognize anything ! So, what I did was do a 180 and head back from where I came from and eventually I saw the grass strip, and landed. Today any smartphone has a great gps in it and that makes it easy. I'd say it's a good idea to bring along a small Garmin gps too just in case

[@robinmyman]

Over UK… works over most of Central and SE England 121.5 MHz D&D auto triangulation…if transponder functioning you should be located in under a minute. Practice position fix…eg London Centre. VHF direction finding…QDM gives vector to VDF station. Lower Airspace Radar Service. If VFR inside C or D controlled airspace contact radar control service. Traffic Service…surveillance based ATS…radar. Use your SkyDemon with BadElf gps…list goes on and on.

[@Yusbel6]

Great job. Loved it

[@jimmyb5935]

that was my biggest fear when i was working towards my private ticket. great info

[@evanhansen9357]

Remember that you can always read the city on a water tower, but with my luck t would read “Class of 2012”!

[@Straightahead101]

You should of demonstrated this with using a sectional chart, plotter and VOR dead reckoning. "Old school" way

[@angelajiakim8449]

Love it - very nice and simple thank you

[@scottramsey9403]

LOL On my very first hour, the instructor was getting me familiar with the aircraft ( Tripacer ) controls etc. and at the end of the session said, "okay let's go home". Of course I had no clue where we were. After that I always paid attention to where I was!

[@stourbridgemotorcyclecentr5888]

Loving the series. Also did the last one about a year ago. Massively helpful as a new ppl holder. Could I ask though please - any idea when our Aviation Mastery books are due out at all please? Thank you 👍

[@isaac15se]

12/12 thank you for sharing these great videos!

[@PiperPilot1976]

12 for 12!! Looking at a plane to purchase this weekend with no GPS!! Getting lost is definitely a possibility!! Nate

[@amorphousblob2721]

One time I got lost. The first 3 C's didn't help. I saw nothing but featureless farmland as far as the eye could see in every direction. The last two C's were useless because the plane had no radios. But I could see a water tower, so I descended towards it. Like most water towers, it bore the name of the town that owned it in giant letters. I found that town on my chart. I was a few miles to the right of my planned course.

[@stevenrynski1107]

Just did some pattern work at KHEF. 12 for 12

[@flynfranks3638]

Great video this is one of the fears I have as a student pilot getting out on my own

[@bryant3483]

I know how you feel although I posted late I shared my thoughts when I was a student pilot getting outside the practice area. Little by little you get out to stretch your feet longer and wider and with the tips Jason has presented you’ll find yourself being in a more comfortable place while in the cockpit

[@broll-5260]

I'm 12/12. Great videos Jason.

[@SuperOperator4]

12/12. Dead reckoning! Use that old compass thingy.

[@josephsener420]

12:12 Lost in the cockpit is the wrong time to start to use some of that simpler instrumentation.

[@JoshuaTootell]

Just had my checkride and we got "lost" (I knew where I was). I never used a GPS during the checkride, I flew all with paper and the 6 pack. But when we tried to triangulate VOR's, I knew the other VOR I needed to use was out of service because I called FSS that morning.

[@RandyBroderick]

I was once told to descend, find a water tower and see what city is written on it. Problem solved!

[@markdemmi8745]

Great Points!! 12/12

[@chadweaver4827]

12 4 12. Thank you

[@claythomas6587]

12-4-12/ hard to get lost but it happens. What about while going on a night flight.

[@captgrant]

Since most circuits are left hand in North America, and that's why the PIC sits in the primary left seat, wouldn't it make sense to maintain that extra safety margin?

[@MzeroAFlightTraining]

Jason sits in the right to act as the instructor for all the videos!

[@GeneHaas0]

use lean of peak? when else do you want to use lean of peak? ive always just used rich of peak. why in this situation do you use lean of peak?

[@TomInGulfBreeze]

I'm not even a manned pilot and I'm enjoying this series. Is this a clever plot to convert a part 107 pilot by any chance? :-)

[@jonathanjohnson7483]

Well let's hope I'm never lost in the plane but if I am I'll remember these steps :)

[@Peter_M]

You should start with : never give up, calm down and think. :D

[@christiannnnnnnnnn]

1. Confess 2. Climb straight into the controlled Airspace

[@michaelbarnett1407]

12 of 12

[@kevindavis8175]

Is the 6th C, “Coach Ray?”

[@fuzzdmedic]

Not lost just topographica ly dislocated!

[@markmccoy8622]

12 for 12!!

[@codylucero5855]

You far enough from them clouds? 🤣

[@sierrarotorcraftclub]

10 for 10

[@BEAMChannel]

Find an airport, land, buy gas, the name of the airport will probably be printed on the receipt ;) (OK not real advice)

[@BEAMChannel]

For real on PPL checkride when I was doing the preflight brief I included "If we get lost I am going to look for the Merimack River" as there are airports all up and down it

[@jimarcher5255]

Sure it is. In the 60’s I followed the wrong railroad track out of a small town and was hopelessly lost. Landed at a country airport, got out my Texaco road map and determined my location. Another “scientific” method was circling Town water tanks as they usually had the name painted on it. A quick reference to the road map and away you go.

[@charleskroll7023]

12 for 12 today.

[@migueldana9561]

12-12

[@frankienv3906]

12 for 12 👍

[@Dmorsman]

12 for 12!

[@leonardbeale1618]

12 for 12

[@ronfitzhenry3726]

Pilots are never lost, we just don’t know were here is

[@jbreezy101]

Lost reminds me of jfk jr

[@seemakhan1773]

12/12

[@nealhere]

…but now I’m found. Thanks

[@MzeroAFlightTraining]

Thank you!

[@Larry-nn2nm]

Climb to MSA, just saying……

[@Jigsaw407]

Goonies never say "die"!

[@jrnumex9286]

7th c. sir you are entering cuban air space" si

[@snatr]

First of all... You remind me of a tv evangelist.. Second- I got a C for you... See and avoid. For all of this video, you seemed to be paying quite a bit of attention to that camera in your cockpit, but not much attention to the outside. And those ADS receivers should not be taking the place of your eyeballs either 😏 But nice to see your still active in the community all the same 😋

[@jamesspradling6691]

13 for 13

[@ballnmike]

Day 12 of 12 of the 31 day safer pilot challenge.

[@More-right-rudder]

Lol you can easily get loss!

[@kurtreber9813]

12412

[@Airplane_Stuff]

12 for 12!

[@arthurgordon8253]

12 for 12

[@bobcox963]

12/12

[@erikpetersen3812]

12 for 12

[@peterschuster1893]

12/12

[@DavidMiller-rw2gj]

12 for 12

[@scottomlinson2017]

12/12

[@Aeshr]

12 for 12

[@TS-kh7qn]

12/12