Help!!! My Pastor is a WOMAN!

[@timothydean466]

You’re bang on here, female leadership is the start of the slide

[@MarthaM-xq6sv]

The start of the slide is men not stepping up to their God- given responsibility to be effective and godly preachers, teachers and shepherds in Christ's church. Women step up to fill the vacuum - and men are relieved of their responsibility. Nothing good comes from that.

[@revsolution]

Except in all those fruitful ministries they lead.

[@MarthaM-xq6sv]

The start of the slide is men not stepping up to their God- given responsibility to be effective and godly preachers, teachers and shepherds in Christ's church. Women step up to fill the vacuum - and men are relieved of their responsibility. Nothing good comes from that.

[@allanyoung6231]

Yes next thing you know it's homosexuality being promoted

[@allanyoung6231]

​@@revsolutionWhich would be who and where ?

[@RPSanAnto]

Short answer, leave that church asap.

[@Yesica1993]

This particular situation is a difficult one. It would be wise to first try to address it as he explained. People these days seem to have zero commitment to the people with whom they worship. They change churches like they're changing their shoes. That's a problem in and of itself.

[@JC-sj2pd]

But first use the Matthew 18 approach to conflict resolution that way you’ve covered your bases biblically

[@TheB1nary]

@@Yesica1993confront the pastor and hope she steps down so you can stay? No. That won’t work 😂

[@steveduecker9872]

@@JC-sj2pd I agree Mt. 18 is the best approach. I do not know about membership in Penecostal churches, but I believe that if a person makes a vow or a covenant with his congregation to support its ministry, simply leaving is wrong. It is fair in a situation like this to try to help the pastor understand what the Bible says and let them know this is the reason for your departure and that your reason is a serious reason, not simply a personal issue you have with them. Furthermore, it is rude to just to leave without any explanation to the pastor, that is very discourteous. Pastors, or in this case a sister in Christ, are human too and should be treated with respect.

[@gregb6469]

@@JC-sj2pd -- Matthew 18 has to do with one believer sinning against another; it has nothing to do with how to deal with false teaching by the congregation's leadership.

[@SB-xz6kz]

The Methodist church I went to had a woman pastor. She was the worst. We got into an argument because she told me I was wrong for not out dating after being freshly widowed. She also made fun of me for crying at communion. She told me I need to be happy and not depressed. She really needs a course in bereavement. I found a really good church now (though it’s non denominational 😮). May not be my ideal style of worship, but I’m feeling fed.

[@arthura777]

My brother run away, better go to the mountains seeking the Lord😂!

[@teresafarrell6457]

You've got THE Church (God's) and everything else. Denomination in a church is not required nor necessary. I'd say how well you know The Word of God is far more important. Reading or listening to Scripture outside of church is a must.

[@USMC1973]

AME church ordain women pastor, bishop,elder,shepherd, overseer😢😢😢 judgment start at the house of God😢

[@tabletalk33]

Proverbs 21:19 It is better to dwell in the wilderness, than with a contentious and an angry woman.

[@bibsann861]

Break away from a Church with a woman preacher

[@ParaísoPerdido-23]

I attended a Baptist church for several months this year before I found out one of the pastors, a woman, never went to seminary or Bible college. Mrs Notapastor ran the childrens programs and womens programs and was one of two women the site pastor absolutely adored. She called herself pastor 'Linda' (not her real name), and most others at the church, including male pastors, referred to her verbally and in emails as pastor 'Linda'. She sat in on an extremely private counseling session with a male pastor and me _because I thought she was a pastor_ in which I discussed abuse within the church I suffered as a child, and I found out _after_ that appointment that she's not a pastor, had no counseling training, and she's a gossip. She wasn't a pastor's wife, either. Her husband helped run the children's ministry. I've never liked or trusted females in leadership, and this added to my many negative experiences. Of actual pastors and priests who are women, I also have nothing good to say. Not even one I've ever spoken with became a church leader because they felt God call them, for example, and not one of them produced good fruit, even over decades in "ministry".

[@kerenwilliams7775]

At 84 plus years of age, my Mom was attending a small Methodist church. She wasn't too pleased that the pastor was a woman. But even better, she wrote a note to the pastor flat out telling her she had no clue what the gospel was about and had no business being a pastor. We're never too old to be used by the Lord.

[@kurticusmaximus]

1 Cor 11 also covers the authority of men over women as well. 11:10 "For this reason a woman should have a symbol of authority on her head, because of the angels" Women usurping the authority of men in the church is equivalent to man usurping the authority of God, since Christ is the head of every man, and husband is the head of the wife. If marriage symbolizes Christ and the church, then the woman usurping the authority of the church is the same.

[@revsolution]

Not the same.

[@ChadPopham-i3t]

Thank you for taking on such a difficult issue from a sound biblical view.

[@andyontheinternet5777]

I found myself in a very similar situation. I’m a Baptist missionary in a mostly non Christian setting. The local church replaced their retiring pastor with a woman. She’s a great person, loves the Lord, and is not an activist. Still, i know what the Bible teaches. The hard part is there are not a lot of options nearby, and there are very few people who could be pastor.

[@teresafarrell6457]

So you left and study The Word of God at home or you remain and excuse it?

[@Sujowi]

So you stayed and learned from her?

[@NikkiSchumacherOfficial]

When I was in China it was the same. I think it’s best to worship with other believers and be brave enough to disagree and let iron sharpen iron. If there was a choice for a more biblical pastor I would take it.

[@andyontheinternet5777]

@@Sujowi I voiced my concerns from the beginning, but was ignored. Half the church was against it. The other half said they didn't like it but didn't have another option. We stepped out on as good of terms as possible. I miss that church a lot. It has been tricky to manage because we get residency documents through that church. There aren't many believers where I serve, either. It's not like the US where there are dozens of options. We've been focusing on a different church plant, but it's really small, mostly children from Muslim backgrounds, and we miss being with other Christians.

[@johnbreitmeier3268]

​@@andyontheinternet5777uh, what about you??? Why were you not answering option? Was there absolutely no men in the church who knew the Bible and could teach?? I am very confused?? Who made the church pick a woman?? Are you all 6 years old??

[@richardwells8954]

Exactly right on the Scriptures! The temporary wisdom of our culture is not truth - the Scriptures are the truth.

[@joshwitt1475]

Thank you for unapologetically standing on what scripture actually says even though it is largely rejected and even demonized by the western world.

[@michaelbrickley2443]

Scripture doesn’t actually say women can’t be a pastor

[@Yesica1993]

@@michaelbrickley2443 Did you even watch this? Good grief.

[@caleb11b]

As a Pentecostal Charismatic, we don't operate where elders have higher authority than the pastor. Unfortunately, though, the ordination of female pastors isn't all that uncommon within our denomination. I'm one of the minority who doesn't promote it.

[@thinktank8286]

Recently confronting this issue of women pastors. Looked into my denominations positions on female pastors. Shocked at the weakness of their argument. 1. Because we have a tradtion of fruitful pastoral women. 2. Because of a verse in Joel about the Holy Spirit working in both men and women's lives. 3. Because we have women being theologically trained and they need a place to pastor. 4. Because we have a bunch of scholarship we can cite to work around the Bible text. The argument is so weak, its sad! In my experience confronting any Pentecostal/Charismatic Pastor never ever goes well. "Dont touch the Lord's anointed." OR Church growth pragmatism "Look at how the church is growing! God supports my leadership!" Even worse if its a "Family run business." Its far easier to walk away than it is to fight out polity issues. Person becomes a trouble maker and "in rebellion".

[@uslanja]

Disobedience is not just in that church congregation but throughout the Denomination. John 14:15

[@actorjay]

Accurate summary, in my experience.

[@Freedom-CAN]

Thank you so much for the message. God's providence is interesting. I just had a friendly debate with a Christian friend about this last night, suddenly this morning when I opened youtube I saw this live stream, and felt ministered. Praise God and thank you Matthew.

[@bonjovi1612]

Nope. Just walk away.

[@joycepartee7797]

Thank you, for Speaking the TRUTH of GOD'S WORD! I have Spoken these Scriptures to people who have a Woman Pastor! They said, times have Changed ! I said, GOD WORD never Changes! They didn't Listen to me! The Bishop who or dained her used Galatians 3:28. I. Read abd Study GOD'S WORD, and this Scripture is about Justification! People do Not listen , so I Moved on!

[@Dinjek]

Sounds like a mess. I'd just leave that Church.

[@patmyles4776]

Rev. Everhard, I am amazed at the depth of wisdom you have. Congratulations to your church.

[@angelawacky2716]

Excellent…but I don’t think modern Pentecostal churches have any kind of order or structure-- that’s why the woman ended up there. I grew up in one that was pretty Biblical, but 60 years later it’s very different.

[@ScribeAlicious]

Pentecostal churches have never had any proper order or biblical theology to begin with.

[@christianturnage7145]

Used to be in an UMC church, and we got a woman pastor right before their liberal policies. She did not acknowledge the Bible as the source of spiritual authority or guidance. Her leadership would have quickly destroyed that church if they had not gotten rid of her and then separated from the UMC. She was a nice person but her theology was deeply flawed.

[@dnzswithwombats]

If these steps work for a local congregation I wonder if they would also for an entire denomination.

[@jonathanstevens5573]

Great video Dr. Everhard! Just a bit of pushback as a complementarian who agrees with this video. How do you reconcile these verses with other passages about women prophesying (Joel 2:28; Acts 2:17, 21:9). I feel like more thoughtful egalitarian critics would not use Gal. 3:28, but would rather make a more nuanced case from these passages. Again, I completely agree with this video, I was just curious how you would respond to a more nuanced critique. I appreciate your insight on this subject!

[@thinktank8286]

Hello, I'm not Pastor Matt. :) I would think the Holy Spirit verses do explain God's grace/activity/power in both men and women's lives. As in: Prophesying/gift enabledment equals leadership. It could be however not necessarily about elders/teacher/leader roles. A person can function in a gift, but that doesn't provide them a leadership role in a church. Using a gift does not equal Leadership. I belong to a Denomination that justifies egalitarianism using many of those Holy Spirit verses. For whatever that is worth.

[@RayRice-lr8vi]

Gifting and Office are not necessarily tied together. Was not Deborah a prophetess, but Barak still commanded the army? And he was criticized for not being willing to go without Deborah. Phillip (I think, going off memory) had a bunch of daughters who prophesied, yet they did not run the church. Prophets never led the country of Israel, with the sole exception being Moses, and none would be raised up like him until Jesus. I am not a pastor, but those are the lines of argumentatioin I would develop against that suggestion.

[@tabletalk33]

@@thinktank8286 The Pulpit Commentary: 1Co_14:34 Let your women keep silence in the Churches. St. Paul evidently meant this to be a general rule, and one which ought to be normally observed; for he repeats it in 1Ti_2:11, 1Ti_2:12. At the same time, it is fair to interpret it as a rule made with special reference to time and circumstances, and obviously admitting of exceptions in both dispensations (Jdg_4:4; 2Ki_22:14; Neh_6:14; Luk_2:36; Act_2:17; Act_21:9), as is perhaps tacitly implied in 1Co_11:5. But… to be under obedience (Eph_5:22; Col_2:18; Tit_2:5; 1Pe_3:1). Christianity emancipated women, but did not place them on an equality with men. As also saith the Law (Gen_3:16; Num_30:3-12).

[@innovationhq8230]

Even if the person going to this Pentecostal church was able to get the female pastor to step down it's still very bad for them to be in a church that upholds unbiblical soteriology. They should leave and find a strict confessional Reformed church.

[@jimmu2008]

I don't think confessional Reformed is the way to go.

[@innovationhq8230]

@jimmu2008 Confessional reformed/original Westminster standards is the biblical position.

[@jimmu2008]

@@innovationhq8230 I disagree. Why did it show up so late in history, then?

[@innovationhq8230]

@@jimmu2008 It's the teaching of the bible so it's the earliest thing in history.

[@jimmu2008]

@@innovationhq8230 I disagree. It's not the same as taught by the Bible.

[@tabletalk33]

I think Matthew's advice is solid, esp. the part about verifying your Church's bylaws, rules, etc., regarding this issue. You have Holy Scripture on your side. What do they have on theirs?

[@parksideevangelicalchurch2886]

If you can make “I do not permit a woman to teach or to exercise authority over a man; rather, she is to remain quiet.” 1 Timothy 2:12 to mean “I DO permit a woman to teach or to exercise authority over a man; rather, she is to remain in active leadership.” then why stop there? If you can make that verse say the opposite of what it says, why not make any other verse say the opposite of what it says if you don't like it?

[@Nameless-w2t]

Does the woman who wrote the letter to you have a believing husband? If so, should she speak with him first and ask him to take the lead to handle this difficult situation? Like you read, let her ask her husband at home.

[@JC-sj2pd]

Matthew what is your position on a divorced and remarried man being a deacon, elder or pastor? I know it says the husband of one wife. Or maybe you could do a video on that. Are there any instances where a divorced man can be in church leadership or ministry? My personal situation was an unbelieving wife initiated the divorce also with my wife now her ex husband did the same. So I would greatly appreciate your thoughts on this as we desire to serve in our church but do not want to step out of biblical authority. Thanks.

[@teresafarrell6457]

What does Scripture say? There's your answer.

[@gregmcray]

This topic can be so divisive, but also important. There are many scholars who interpret "husband of one wife" to be speaking of polygamy, not divorce and remarriage. Frankly, in my own study, I find that to make much more sense given the pagan normalcy of polygamy when these books were written by Paul. We know divorce is a sin, but is it so different that it is disqualifying when other sins are not? Tough question. When taken to its worst possible conclusions, you could legitimately have a situation where a man who lived as an unmarried homosexual prior to salvation qualifies for ministry when a man who got divorced before salvation cannot. Something not right about that. My church (of which I am an elder, not divorced) holds to the polygamy interpretation primarily, but out of respectful caution will not consider divorced elder/pastor candidates if said divorce happened while that couple were Christians.

[@simeonyves5940]

He is an Unrepentant sinner living in Defiance of God and is to be Excommunicated, Ejected from the Church and Shunned until he Repents, cuts off the women whom he is in Adultery with, and returns to his First Wife!

[@firebat724]

​@gregmcray yeah I would say that divorce and remarriage prior to salvation is *probably* different than post salvation. If an unbelieving spouse leaves you or you left an unbelieving spouse while you were also unbelieving and then get married and then convert you should probably remain as you are and if that's the case can probably be in the ministry. Not married to it but that's my take.

[@JC-sj2pd]

@@teresafarrell6457are you Matthew or Teresa the troll? Probably best you stay silent

[@margotbiggs4260]

Hi Matthew, I have a question. I think the steps you described for this situation are really good. Whilst the process is happening, assuming it will take some weeks, would you say that the person involved here should continue to attend Sunday service when the female is preaching? I would love to hear more teaching from you in what exactly women can do in a church service and how you back it up biblically. This is something I have really struggled to understand. I have a very clear understanding that women cannot be a pastor or preach. However in our church (Presbyterian in Australia) the women will pray, read the Bible and sing all from the ‘stage’. How do I really know for sure if these are ok for women to do?

[@Lookin-at-the-Man]

Do you root for the Steelers?

[@capturedbyannamarie]

I had something happen like this in a different way. The main pastor was a man, but they started allowing a woman to baptize at our church. This is a non denominational church. I left immediately, especially since our children were at the time when they wanted to be baptized. We are now a completely different denomination.

[@ScribeAlicious]

In fairness, women are not biblically excluded from evangelism or baptism. Scripture actually commands ALL believers to evangelize and to baptize.

[@tabletalk33]

@@ScribeAlicious In fairness and wisdom, consider this: 1Pe 3:1 Likewise, wives, be in subjection to your own husbands, so that if any do not obey the Word, they may also be won without the Word by the conduct of the wives, 1Pe 3:2 having witnessed your chaste behavior in the fear of God. 1Pe 3:3 Of whom let not be the adorning of garments, or outward braiding of hair and wearing of gold, or of putting on clothing, 1Pe 3:4 but let it be the hidden man of the heart, in that which is not corruptible, the meek and quiet spirit, which is of great price in the sight of God. 1Pe 3:5 For so once indeed the holy women hoping in God adorned themselves, being in subjection to their own husbands; 1Pe 3:6 as Sarah obeyed Abraham, calling him lord; whose children you became, doing good and fearing no terror. 1Pe 3:7 Likewise, husbands, live together according to knowledge, giving honor to the wife as to the weaker vessel, the female, as truly being co-heirs together of the grace of life, not cutting off your prayers.

[@ParaísoPerdido-23]

I attended a Baptist church that called a non pastor woman a pastor, and they let her baptize, lead prayers, and more. I was extremely unhappy to learn she never attended seminary or Bible college, was a gossip, and believes false teachings. 😡👎 The male pastors seemed fine with it all. I walked away.

[@michaelbrickley2443]

You’re wrong

[@winsomepickett7694]

(2:25) “Normally I really hesitate to tell somebody to leave their church; in fact, that’s not my gut instinct. . . I typically don’t recommend that because I have a very covenantal view of what it means to be a believe as well as a covenantal view of what it means to be a church member in general.” Okay, forgive my ignorance, but what does that mean, exactly? What’s the relationship between being “covenantal,” and being less likely to encourage people to leave their church?

[@angelaarmstrong6405]

Exactly no debate!! Simple. ✝️

[@paulsingleton5181]

Great video. Any thoughts on Jentezen Franklin out of Gainesville, GA? Seems like a good candidate for your next compilation of worshiptainment churches.

[@PastorDavidBess]

I totally agree with you that advocating female pastors is the first step toward theological progressivism. My approach toward the situation you described, however, would be different. After advising the person to discuss the matter with the leaders, if there was little hope of a change, then the person should quietly leave the church. My thought is that it would be better to quietly leave than to openly fight. Thank you for addressing this issue. This Baptist pastor appreciates your Presbyterian ministry!

[@wendeestafford]

I respectfully submit that the first step is a female worship leader, missions leader, or a Christian women’s author who believes it’s ok to speak to an audience that includes men. Didn’t this begin by making excuses for those things? By the time a woman is in the role of pastor, it’s obvious that the good men around her dropped the ball long before.

[@pedroguimaraes6094]

I still have some questions regarding this issue: 1) Is 'leaving' the Church due to it going astray in this way Biblical? Do we find examples of this in Scripture, particularly in the New Testament? 2) When the Church was being taken over by false teachings in the Apostolic era, was this what the Apostles did or recommended? 3) If conservatives abandon the church, won't that lead to the church becoming even more liberal without any resistance? 4) Isn't this the strategy that has been adopted for decades and that has only led to the strengthening of liberalism within the churches and the weakening of historic Protestantism? I'm not talking about excommunication, I'm talking about voluntary departure.

[@SB-xz6kz]

I agree with Redeemed Zoomed on this subject. Though, I feel a bit of a hypocrite because I fled my United Methodist Church because the pastor was certified crazy. Then post covid the UMC a went off the rails. Meanwhile I found a Non Denomination church that I really like and feel at home in

[@daeuslamb8191]

The Christians being called to leave the synagogues that had once been their churches. Also, he’s not describing just walking out and leaving. He’s describing resistance until the only option to resist left is to leave.

[@pedroguimaraes6094]

@@daeuslamb8191 It is not the same. Early Christian separation in this case was due to a fundamental rejection of the core Christian faith, especially concerning the person and work of Jesus Christ. When churches or synagogues denied the divinity of Christ or His resurrection, for example, the early Christians had no choice but to separate, as such denials struck at the heart of the Gospel itself. In contrast, issues like women’s ordination or liberal theological tendencies within a church, while serious, often don't directly involve a rejection of the central tenets of the Christian faith. Many churches that adopt liberal practices, such as women in leadership or differing views on certain social issues, may still officially uphold orthodox doctrines like the Trinity, the deity of Christ, salvation by grace, and the authority of Scripture Even Matthew Everhard in one of his videos classified female ordination in the “false teaching” category and not in the “heresy” category.

[@pedroguimaraes6094]

@@daeuslamb8191 It is not the same. Early Christian separation in this case was due to a fundamental rejection of the core Christian faith, especially concerning the person and work of Jesus Christ. When churches or synagogues denied the divinity of Christ or His resurrection, for example, the early Christians had no choice but to separate, as such denials struck at the heart of the Gospel itself. In contrast, issues like women’s ordination or liberal theological tendencies within a church, while serious, often don't directly involve a rejection of the central tenets of the Christian faith. Many churches that adopt liberal practices, such as women in leadership or differing views on certain social issues, may still officially uphold orthodox doctrines like the Trinity, the deity of Christ, salvation by grace, and the authority of Scripture Even Matthew Everhard in one of his videos classified female ordination in the “false teaching” category and not in the “heresy” category.

[@pedroguimaraes6094]

​@@daeuslamb8191 It’s important to note that early Christian separation often occurred due to the rejection of core Christian doctrines, especially regarding the person and work of Jesus Christ. When churches or synagogues denied His divinity or resurrection, the early Christians had no choice but to separate, as these were central to the Gospel. In contrast, issues like women’s ordination or certain liberal theological perspectives, while significant, don’t necessarily involve rejecting core Christian doctrines. Many churches that have these practices still uphold orthodox beliefs like the Trinity and the deity of Christ, As Matthew Everhard discusses in one of his videos, while female ordination may be a serious theological concern, it is not necessarily classified as a 'heresy' but rather a deviation from traditional teaching.

[@muppetonmeds]

Pontus Pilote was a decent man and he knew Jesus was a good Man. But if he set Jesus free he would have become unpopular with the people so he passed Jesus on. We have too many decent preachers scared to stand up for God and want to please the people and remain good in their sight. They need to pick a side. God's word or the people being satisfied. Take care

[@murattanyel1029]

Although I respect Pastor Everhard's advice on this issue, my gut sense is that it's not going to work out. My gut sense is that you should find a more Biblical church. However, here is a compromise: I would test the waters by trying out step #1 of what Pastor Everhard recommends. The response to that step will show how the rest of the process would go. If I got a negative response to the first step, I would start looking for a new church.

[@tbrickman]

I think his point is that it's honorable to do everything within your power as a church member to help the church that you covenanted to be a part of. Even if it's unlikely to work out

[@theeternalsbeliever1779]

Compromising with God's government has NEVER yielded positive results. Go ahead and look in the Bible, see if you can point out a single instance where the Israelites or members of God's Church abandoned His government and got positive results. I would not wait, especially with the stakes being as serious as they are.

[@theeternalsbeliever1779]

@@tbrickman No, the honorable thing to do would be to leave. A professing Christian's loyalty is supposed to be to God, not a church. A person who gives their loyalty to a church is not following God. What good is it to be that loyal to a church that isn't being led by God or is even getting any revelation from God? So many "Christians" like Matthew give their loyalty to ppl instead of the truth, and it's exactly why they're deceived.

[@PreDustined]

This is a very similar thing that happened to me before I became reformed

[@DavidBamber-m8j]

Do you allow non reformed people to attend your Church services? I'm not reformed or Armenian as I struggle to come to a conclusion on the topic.

[@jerem0621]

Brother, I agree with your sound council to this woman. Reasoned, biblical, orthodox, kind, and loving. I do have a rub…Why did you switch between the NKJV to the ESV to make two points without disclosing that you had to switch versions to support those points? My concern is if she tries to lift these exact verses and bring them to her “pastor” she can be set up for having to cherry pick versions to make the point. That’s okay as long as she is equipped to say the NKJV renders this verse better and the ESV this one. Why didn’t you disclose the version switch-a-roo?

[@michaelnoble2432]

She's just going to need to leave the church. The female "pastor" isn't even the biggest issue; the other false teachings of Charismatic churches are a bigger problem. But if she does confront the "pastor", she needs to take 1 or 2 witnesses with her.

[@daeuslamb8191]

Really appreciated your advice for how to handle corruption in the church. I was recently talking with my wife about women teaching bible-related classes. For example, Bible studies, Christian book studies, parenting classes, etc. Wondering what you would think of that? While it could lead to acting or posturing as an unofficial pastor, it wouldn’t need to (and you could have that problem with a man too.) I think there’s some legitimate biblical precedent for that, but possibly biblical precedent to be cautious too??? I’d like to think biblically about this, but aware that my instincts are heavily trained by the various and often contradictory subcultures I’m a part of.

[@BGID7]

Matthew, what are your thoughts on the "of the Nazarene" church? We found one we may want to go to, but before I bring my family there, I'd appreciate your insight. Is their theology solid?

[@concerned6718]

I went to a Nazarene Church many years. I like fact that they believe you can lose your salvation. But them allowing a women to preach I am against. I finally left the church because they were doing nothing about transgenders. i got tired of seeing women in the men's bathroom. They also allow divorce and remarriage which is adultery in the church. It was so bad I could not invite people to the church. The messages were becoming more and more watered down. It is extremely difficult to find a good church. I can not find any. They will not change. Remember a bad can affect your children. Our time here is very short. Many Christians will fall away. I feel I have lost 6 out 7 of my kids. 3 are atheist. Why? Because a lot of church doesn't believe the word of God.

[@normgardner4560]

Nazarene churches are Arminian in their theology which would differ greatly with Matthew's Reformed or Calvinist theology!

[@BGID7]

@normgardner4560 makes sense. Thank you for the response

[@Manofwar7]

Pretty simple just leave!

[@tonyvillena1985]

I have never found to be a problem to understand that Woman’s are not to preach in any church , they could teach some minor classes and to be the encouragement to young woman to help them to pure and if marriage to be submissive to the husband just like CHRIST IS TO THE FATHER.

[@theeternalsbeliever1779]

God made His position clear through the Paul that women are not to possess ecclesiastical authority...period. Not over men, and not even over other ppl's children. God's government specifically forbids it. Men were created to be the leaders in society, not women. Women ruling is a sign that a nation is under a curse, and it's especially true with churches. It doesn't even matter if the woman is theologically correct. She is still rebelling against God's order!

[@JohnSmith-zo6ir]

If she doesnt know scriptures and has to go away and study something as basic as a woman not being allowed to be a pastor then she shouldnt have taken the role. What else has she not studied. What terrible advice. Get the hell out of that counterfeit church. It is this pathetic response from weak men and women that leads to the slippery slope and future false doctrine. LEAVE.

[@user-mf9yl2pf3v]

It seems that in lots of Charismatic churches people don't care as much about education and accuracy. Pastoring is more of a personality contest. I can't trust a lot of charismatic leaders because of this.

[@nancygermain6924]

Change churches, if they will break one scripture they will probably break other scriptures.

[@charlesarbuckle7958]

100% Correct in your analysis. Thats because you were using the bible as constant reference (exegesic referencing).

[@ionfratostiteanu2627]

The problem arose because they already had an unbiblical organization inspired by the man-made system. If they were biblically organized they had a plurality of pastors and the death of one was not a problem. So the person in question should have left that so-called church a long time ago, but as it is never too late, she can now understand that if she sincerely wants to follow Christ, she has nothing to do with such a religious organization.

[@iagoapioan8990]

What bible is that in the background?

[@jimmu2008]

I agree that women should not be called to be pastors or priests. However, any applied theology of women in ministry, even teaching roles, must take all of the New Testament into account. Consider this verse from Acts 18:26 - "He [Apollos] began to speak boldly in the synagogue, but when *_Priscilla_* and Aquila heard him, *_they_* took him aside and explained to him the way of God more accurately." So here you have Priscilla, a woman, listed before her husband and instructing a man. As for the advice, I find it is idealistic. Not many people could follow all those steps. The best advice may be to pray about what she should do, and then follow her conscience and God's leading.

[@CaroleRubano]

Priscilla was not a pastor

[@jimmu2008]

@CaroleRubano I did not claim that Priscilla was a pastor. Did you read my whole comment? I started by saying that I am opposed to women as pastors. If I thought that Priscilla was a pastor, why would I still be opposed to female pastors?

[@theeternalsbeliever1779]

None of what you showed authorizes women to be teachers. Priscilla was NOT instructing Apollos. The account clearly says that _she assisted her husband_ in explaining doctrines to Apollos. Your advice is woefully dangerous because the Bible consistently warn against relying on human reasoning. Praying before making a conscience based decision won't make it a bible based decision!

[@jimmu2008]

@theeternalsbeliever1779 no, it doesn't clearly say that Priscilla _assisted_ her husband! And the only "advice" I gave was to consider the whole New Testament and to pray about what the person should do. As I began in my original comment with saying that I am opposed to female pastors. I would assume that people would understand that the remaining options would be to take steps like Pastor Matthew is recommending or leave a situation that is unlikely to change. Nor did I suggest that she base her decision on human reasoning.

[@steventerry593]

If the church member in question is a member of one of the "Oneness Pentecostals" which denies the Trinity, I would think it would be an automatic "hit the road jack" situation. Otherwise the biblical approach is best. But, whatever approach is used, an "Ephesians" 4:29" filter is well advised.

[@LarryJoly]

What do you if there are women elders in the church?

[@davewhite756]

It's a Pentecostal church. If they expel a pastor for being a woman the church will be disaffilated from the denomination.

[@TruthLivesNow]

It depends on the Pentecostal church's affiliation, for example, Foursquare Pentecostals have always allowed a woman Senior Pastors. Assembly of God and COGIC used to not allow it, yet they are now. Holiness Pentecostals would not allow a woman to be in this position. It also depends on the Presbyterian church's affiliation, Pastor Everhard is Presbyterian PCA, Presbyterian USA has women Pastors, and Senior woman Pastors, with their Liberal Full Communion with other Liberal denominations, (ECLA etc.). Pastor Everhard hit this on the head near the end!! Also, Pastor Everhard did not mention whether the woman is married or not!!! That changes the whole idea.

[@Shikuesi]

@@TruthLivesNow he clearly said she became pastor on the death of her husband.

[@Charleston4Jesus]

I think my first question would be why when the SR Pastor died the successor had to be within the family? I do not know if the SR Pastor had more than one son but perhaps the son did not want it or was not qualified therefore it fell back on the wife. BUT if that is the case that church leadership can not consider anyone else because of being confined to only the founding Pastors immediate family as successors which is a problem in itself but if that is the case then you have your answer. Its more less keeping it within the family, boxed into that family dynamic that they can not consider anyone else to take on that Pastoral role in which I would gracefully leave.

[@lionelscout]

I see you have thought this through very well and I agree with you. However, I have a question you didn’t address. Apparently, there are no men in the church who will step up to fill the pulpit, what do you do in the interim of the woman stepping down and the church calling a new pastor? Apparently, the church does not want to ask other churches for help, or they would have done so already. Does the church discontinue meeting until a new pastor is called?

[@ScribeAlicious]

No. They could follow the early church example of simply having shorter services where men read a passage of scripture to the church. There is no reason to A: appoint a female pastor or B: Stop church for the lack of a man to preach. Trust God and that church will stand or fall according to His will. We don’t make excuses or seek means to justify disobeying a command of God

[@svm3224]

Interesting! I once attended a church on one of the smaller Hawaiian islands; it was run by women as there were no males in the congregation. They did the evangelizing, administration, teaching, preaching and Bible study. If ANY male showed up for worship he was immediately propelled to the pulpit!!

[@theeternalsbeliever1779]

The Bible says that _God_ is supposed to appoint the ministers. If an organization appoints its own ministers, that is a dead giveaway that said organization is not being led by God. That's why the "men won't step up" arguments are highly illogical. God _always_ ordains men, and He _always_ prepare them for the task first. We see this throughout scripture with Moses, Aaron, Samuel, Elisha, the original apostles, and Jesus Himself.

[@gateroadministry]

Hi Pastor Andy. I'm listening to your from South Africa, thanks for breaking this down for us -- God bless you 🙏 if I may, God will, would you please post a teaching that addresses this issue of eldership by gender is actually an essential than it is nonessential as most pastors these days are teaching. Even if I'm wrong in my assumption and claim, I'd still love to hear your teaching to correct and help me repent if and where I should. Thanks 🙏

[@casey1167]

Hold on, you are telling a woman to go to the elders and give them instruction? How is that different than a female pastor? Would she not be usurping the authority of the elders by instructing them?

[@emmanuellaford5868]

If your elders were affirming sin, will it not be biblical to bring the offense according to Matthew 18? It is a fault which should be brought to the brother, the bible does not forbid women from doing this.

[@casey1167]

@@emmanuellaford5868 if the elders & pastor are affirming sin.... time to leave

[@Nameless-w2t]

Can you address the question about female deacons? I have a translation (Nasb I think) that uses the term deaconess. The context was a deacon and his wife. Like when a deacon is ordained that the wife is included. Your thoughts?

[@ScribeAlicious]

Their is no greek word that translates as “deaconess” that is completely made up by some goofy translator who was interpreting the text rather than translating. But to keep it clear we have no example of a female deacon in all of scripture. Some say Pheobe was in Romans 16:1 but the fact is “diakonos” (which is the greek word we translate as “deacon” and means “servant”) is used elsewhere to identify the Apostles and Jesus Himself. Other than that, in 1 Timothy 3 the standards of deaconship are given and it is almost entirely referring to men. I say almost because there is a single verse that says “women should likewise be….” In fairness the greek does not say “wives” it just says “women.” If Paul wanted to say “wives” or “deacon’s wives” then the greek would be literally “their women” showing ownership but he doesn’t… he just says “women” but simultaneously it seems a bit out of place in the fuller context if he isn’t talking about the deacon’s wives. I would conclude that it is a conscience issue but I personally believe the argument is stronger on the side of no female deacons. Deacon’s wives do serve with their husbands, but they themselves are not deacons, they are simply their husband’s helper

[@jdotoz]

The same Greek word is used to describe ordained deacons and servants in general.

[@berean77]

I agree with the stance of Pastor Matt, and everything he recommends is based on solid Biblical principles. But it strikes me as a little naive. Churches like this typically do not have any elders; if they even have deacons or board members, these people have almost zero authority, and the only reason they are there is that they have already bought into this kind of thing. Any appeal to these, or any authorities in the denomination, will face a well-established rationale for this practice (however unbiblical it may be). Your chances of success (getting the pastor to resign) are practically nil. Your chances for introducing strife into this body are pretty strong. Is it worth it? Maybe it is. I don't know.

[@CenterPorchNP]

Um, most Pentecostal churches I've been to have elders and the boards have more authority than you think.

[@berean77]

@@CenterPorchNP Thanks for the feedback. My comments were based on the ones I've seen.

[@MichaelGass-f4q]

Our pastor and assistant are both men but we have 2 women called "pastor" under them. Thoughts?

[@normgardner4560]

Run for your life!!!

[@heavenbound7-7-7-7]

Is woman as a pastor salvation issue?

[@topherick]

The only question that matters. (Hint - it is not, but people will use it as though it is.)

[@ScribeAlicious]

@@topherickits not but it is a primary issue. If a church refuses to adhere to the commandment of God in this then it will ultimately compromise elsewhere. It always happens.

[@emmanuellaford5868]

Disobeying God is a salvation issue. Matthew 7:21-23

[@heavenbound7-7-7-7]

@emmanuellaford5868 There is women pastors in my congregation, am I going to hell?

[@theeternalsbeliever1779]

I'll put it to you this way: whoever opposes God's government should not ever expect to be in His Kingdom. The monumental plan God has for His saints to repair and rule this universe with Christ requires them to learn how to do things the Father's way and surrender to His will like Jesus did. The world of traditional Christianity is the spiritual equivalent of the desolation and chaos Gen. 1:2 describes because its churches refuse to do anything God's way.

[@maxxiong]

I wonder what you think about the position that male leadership is a result of a fall that should be redeemed? 1 Tim 2 is obviously not a cultural statement, but it does mention both creation and the fall.

[@bennokurvits1420]

Your suggested approach would take a lot of courage but it is worth a try. God can and does use just one person at times to bring about needed change. If the clear teaching of scripture is on your side, then talk with the lady as you suggested and take it from there.

[@gogos869]

well done! Love you lots!

[@SecondPeter_twovs9]

Sadly financial realities are a huge contributing factor. My small village has 3 major denomination churches(Lutheran, Methodist, UCC) made of up elderly congregants. They can pay a single female a much smaller salary than a man with a wife and children. Doesn't make it Biblically correct, but this is mostly why it is tolerated.

[@uslanja]

There is no excuse for disobedience. John 14:15

[@svm3224]

When it says "husband of one wife" does it mean one wife per lifetime (excluding widowhood) or one wife at a time?

[@roberttyler1206]

Good question. I have heard it explained both ways. I look forward to any responses.

[@4.0gpa44]

I don't know the exact answer to your question. But it would be definitely adultery for him to remarry a divorced woman. According to Matthew 5:32, it says "...and whoever marries a woman who is divorced commits adultery." (NKJV) The word in the KJV is "committeth" and in the Greek (I'm no Greek Scholar, though) is something like the present middle indicative. So it appears that a person commits adultery as long as the improper marriage exists. In my view, that would be a Biblical reason to divorce, as the marriage was not ordained by God, but an adulterous one. And someone who is a current or recent adulterer certainly shouldn't be a pastor.

[@roberttyler1206]

@4.0gpa44 I think the sticking point is if a pastor must be married to one wife. No single or widowed?

[@colinlambert882]

How to admire Matthew’s modesty in determining what is “better teaching or better theology? There are 11+ different Presbyterian churches in the US, most formed through schism because they disagreed with the teachings and beliefs of the others. but of course Matthew tells us that “the best seminary“ is HIS Reformed Presbyterian Theological in Pittsburgh. Of course! Nothing “false… bad… Inaccurate“. The Timothy text, not even one of the 7 epistles positively written by Paul. Matthew doesn’t do 1st century context, even though 1 Tim describes a synagogue style meeting in which men and women sit on opposite sides, men with heads uncovered and women with heads covered. Is that how reformed Presbyterian‘s do church today? Timothy was in Ephesus the centre of the worship of Artemis/Diana, whose priests were all priestesses. So a pagan temple not led by the patriarchy seems to lead to a great concern that women are getting beyond themselves! Matthew ignores Roman 16 - all those women leaders greeted by Paul, including one described as an apostle and another the bearer of the epistle. The case against women is so cut and dried that Paul says there is neither Jew nor Gentile… Man nor woman, ”as you are all one Christ Jesus” but he says legalistically that doesn’t include ordination: Women are still inferior!! And Jesus‘ teachings. The first foreigner to bring people for conversion by Jesus in repentance? The Samaritan woman in John 4! What about Paul’s first European convert & founder of the church in Philippi? Another woman, called Lydia. Once the churches started getting organised with bishops et cetera, uppity women got put back in their places for almost another 2000 years. The Presbyterian Church (the original one in Scotland) only got round to ordaining women as elders in 1966 and as in 1968.

[@LindaWelsford]

Sorry about that!

[@ChaseDowell]

Could you discuss female deacons? My church has a male pastor but does have female deacons.

[@funtimefreddy4204]

It’s biblical. Romans 16:1 - I commend to you our sister Phoebe, who is a servant of the church which is at Cenchrea 1 Corinthians 16:19 - The churches of Asia greet you. Aquila and Prisca greet you heartily in the Lord, with the church that is in their house. Prisca and Aquila were a Husband and Wife that ran a Church from their home. (Acts 18:2-3) When Paul says a woman must “remain silent,” it does not mean a woman cannot speak at all in a Church. It means they must be subject to the authority, which is always the head of the congregation (Elder/Pastor) We directly see Prisca teaching in Acts 18:24-26, a woman teaching a congregation.

[@ScribeAlicious]

@@funtimefreddy4204more like “it’s debatable”

[@ScribeAlicious]

@@funtimefreddy4204Romans 16:1 does not indicate that Pheobe was a deacon in terms of the church office. The word there which is translated as “deacon” means servant and is used in reference to slaves, the Apostles and Christ Himself. So you can’t use it to justify female deacons

[@ScribeAlicious]

@@funtimefreddy4204 1 Corinthians 16:19 is referring to a married couple and does not indicate in any way that the wife was a deacon nor does it indicate that the husband was. All it indicates is that they were allowing their house to be used as a church Acts 18 says nothing about who ran the church in their house nor does it say that their house was a church at that time.

[@ScribeAlicious]

@@funtimefreddy4204Acts 18:24-26 does not describe “a woman preaching to a congregation” it describes a woman and her husband OUTSIDE OF the church context talking to a singular man to help Him understand doctrine better. Given their culture, the wife wasn’t the one teaching or preaching anything and she was simply present with her husband while he explained to the other man. I have seen some halfway decent arguments for female deacons but this is probably the stupidest, out context, and weak one I have ever heard. Not everyone should be a teacher and you aren’t ready. I say this all in love and truth

[@jeannedimon5284]

Women can be good pastors

[@tabletalk33]

How does your statement square with Scripture? 1Co 11:3 But I would have you know that the head of every man is Christ; and the head of the woman is the man; and the head of Christ is God.

[@SecondPeter_twovs9]

I would add that even the conservative female "pastors" have allowed feminism to corrupt their hearts. That are in rebellion no matter how much they think they are holding the line against other evils invading their church; social gospel and alphabet agenda.

[@jeannedimon5284]

@@tabletalk33 , i have been in churches that have women pastors Jesus would be sitting listening to them

[@jdotoz]

​@@jeannedimon5284 "Jesus would be sitting listening to them." Imagine the arrogance of presuming to teach Jesus.

[@tabletalk33]

@@jeannedimon5284 Same question. I would not presume to know what The Son of God would or would not be doing about ANYTHING. You are missing the point, which in Scripture is INESCAPABLE.

[@matteblak6158]

Help, my dog is a cat…

[@carolyndavis6657]

Every church I know that allows women pastors know all the verses and excuse them as cultural, not applicable for today. I know your steps are probably the most biblical way of handling things but once they start that slide the are convinced any objection is unfounded. I’ve also found some churches lack elders & the pastor is the only deciding person.

[@Old_Catholic]

1 Corinthians 13:34 which law?

[@luanneneill2877]

Look into the Lutheran Church Missouri Synod (LCMS)

[@SecondPeter_twovs9]

Any interview with Ryan Turnipseed is most illuminating as to what is going on with LCMS.

[@elmerfudd2402]

No, she's not.

[@craighebert4655]

As a Christian man, I would not be a member of a church with a female pastor. Not out of sexism or anything like that. Soley from what is taught in scripture.

[@TruthLivesNow]

Pastor Everhard, you failed to mention if the woman was married or not. That becomes a more complicated issue on just giving the advice of a woman leaving the church. For me, when you said Senior Pastor, personally, the woman being the Head Pastor of the Church really puts a red flag on the issue considering the Word of God. You know, not all Pentecostals would disagree with you one the subject you are talking about, which leads me to an interesting story for me. I visited a Foursquare Pentecostal Church that allows ordination of women, even Head Pastors. A woman went to the front and said, "I am the ordained Pastor for Women Bible Studies in this church. All the men Pastors have left on a trip. The Head Pastor of the Church called me and asked me to teach this morning's sermon, and my Husband is right there if you want to talk to him about this after the service." I think this is a special case, due to the idea of covering of authority.

[@vashstampede5774]

In all fairness this is good but realistically most people just skip to the last step in a great big huff.

[@dondaugherty3138]

I once attended a church where the associate pastor was a woman. The lead pastor would preach, but some of his theology was centered on the prosperity gospel. This was bad enough, but the church also allowed the associate pastor to conduct communion. There were no elders or deacons. Some men in the church, myself included would distribute the elements. After leaving the church and finding a Bible believing one I realized that things in my past should have prevented me from that role. Also, it seems to me, the lead pastor should always be the one to conduct communion. On the subject of Adam not being deceived, I believe he was standing right nest o Eve when the nachash deceived her and therefore abdicated his role as head of the house. As such, he was just as guilty as Eve.

[@Marlene-c6u]

Your fellowship is quite rare as a Presbyterian... The one I have attended endorse women preachers...When I read the bulletin their was another church that stated, women pastor was hired...So far batting zero with Presbyterian churches.. The preaching also was horrific...

[@jimcasey1975]

PCA and the Orthodox Presbyterian Church are very solidly Reformed.

[@andyontheinternet5777]

The largest Presbyterian denomination is the US is the PCUSA (not to be confused with the PCA). The PCUSA is very very liberal as a denomination while the PCA and OPC are conservative. There is also the EPC which allows women pastors, but is theologically conservative otherwise.

[@JC-sj2pd]

@@andyontheinternet5777and the rpcna

[@innovationhq8230]

Sounds like PCUSA which is apostate and not Presbyterian.

[@Marlene-c6u]

​@@jimcasey1975Could you help me find a PCA Presbyterian church in Wisconsin, Iowa or Minnesota...Thank-you for your input....

[@richardgray8593]

I've got half a mind to report you to Beth Moore and Joyce Meyer. Almost every large Pentecostal church in my area has husband/wife copastors. It's a twofer.

[@berean77]

Because "churches" like this, today, are more like entrepreneurial ventures than real churches.

[@smokyquartz5817]

Theres no hate like Christian love. 😊

[@jdotoz]

🙄

[@isaiahfiftyfiveseven]

I think that regardless of what people think they should know the arguements and reasons for the beliefs they hold, that said I dont think this is an issue for me as for me there are bigger fish to fry.

[@steveduecker9872]

The person might consider giving the pastor some resources which present a biblical view of ordination to provide some kind of context for considering the issue.

[@tabletalk33]

If such a step is really necessary, it's too far gone. Better just to leave. A pastor who lacks the proper resources (impossible for me to believe), or one who has them but cannot even understand or accept plain scripture, less alone adjunct resources, is not fit to be a pastor! Neither is that church fit to administer to your spiritual needs. Shake the dust from your feet!

[@catpocalypsenow8090]

They speak gibberish with no interpretation. They are not interested in what the Bible says.

[@jangozerg]

If their constitution, book of church order, operating procedures,etc allows for women pastors then save yourself some time and get out of there.

[@daviddavenport9350]

I still think the sin of Eve argument is incredibly weak....I dont see any subtlety in Pauls reasoning here. Paul came from one of the most misogynistic cultures in the world....the Jews of the Middle East.....the ancient Jews had more in common with the modern Taliban than in Western society....this is purely societal.....sorry I strongly disagree with this...these are Paul's words..."I do not permit...." Not God or the Christ says.....

[@kvelez]

13:04 Female Pastors

[@bengagliardo]

find a new church

[@costcolawschool]

amen

[@terraloft]

As ine woulf be seeking Holy Spirit discernment, the pricess your describe could be so undoing to bidy welfare ,more than even having a woman pastoring, that a quiet leaving (having had initial conversations asto concerns) may be the healthiest choice, (shake off the dust style). Mennonites have gone the way if the slope slide and after 60 years I am wondering now, hindsight and more biblical study, if they are more a cult than ever i knew.

[@toadster_strudel]

I stopped caring about this the second I heard "Pentecostal" and "Charismatic". I'd recommend they leave just from the fact that it is a heterodox church. However, due to the fact that they insisted on supporting that ministry for such a long time, I'm comfortable with them staying right where they are.

[@vocalpelican]

Sounds similar to the Daystar saga, eh?🤔

[@JC-sj2pd]

Daystar isn’t a church

[@etiennedevignolles7538]

@@JC-sj2pd No, but according to its taxation status, it is a church. (I do agree with you though).

[@vocalpelican]

@@JC-sj2pd Actually, Daystar considers itself a church according to their taxation status with the IRS -- just like @etiennedevignolles7538 stated.

[@ERLong-ww7yn]

I have yet to find a Reformed/Presbyterian/Baptist church that teaches the whole gospel.

[@uslanja]

Trust God in prayer and you will be led.

[@ERLong-ww7yn]

@uslanja I have trusted God for 55 years. He led me away from the Baptist and Reformed movement by opening and revealing His word to me.

[@maxboucher86]

i guess you must be a prophet, have you written a book we should add at the end of our Bibles?

[@ERLong-ww7yn]

@maxboucher86 sarcasm and a backstabbing attitude seldom reflect a Christian lifestyle.

[@missinglink_eth]

What if she told you that Paul let Priscilla peach? I’ve heard this argument many times.

[@dnzswithwombats]

Paul did not contradict himself, is what I might say.

[@arthura777]

My brother i am confused where does the Scripture say that?

[@missinglink_eth]

@@arthura777 I think it is more assumed to make their case that women should be allowed to preach. I’m on the side of Dr Everhard, to be clear. They go to places like Acts 18:24-26.

[@missinglink_eth]

@@arthura777 many point to Acts 18:24-26 … there is nothing explicit.

[@berean77]

Where does it say that Paul let Priscilla preach? Nowhere. She, along with Aquila, provided instruction to Apollos in a private setting. She is nowhere described as preaching to a congregation, or holding the office of an elder.

[@wendeestafford]

Hasn’t this been made crystal clear in Scripture? For that matter, why would a PASTOR’S wife believe this would be ok? Are they even saved at all? This is what truly confuses new Christians these days.

[@tabletalk33]

Spot on! Not a few people and churches out there have simply and obviously gone off the rails and there is nothing that the rest of us can do about it but go our own way in hopes of finding something better.

[@catpocalypsenow8090]

They are Pentecostal. Enough said.

[@mosessackrider8666]

That isn't as bad as a gay pastor.

[@theeternalsbeliever1779]

It is just as bad as a homosexual minister. God doesn't split hairs about this, and He doesn't view one as being worse than the other. Both are rebelling His government in either case because Paul states in 1 Cor. 14:34 that it is a sin against His law all the same. Women pastors exist because they covet power that doesn't belong to them. Instead of fulfilling the role God gave them, they follow Eve's reasoning in thinking that God is being unfair.

[@lynntoytrainmuseum8973]

Video appreciated but disagree. Presbyterian legal structure would waste too much time. In my own situation I stopped casting my pearls before swine and simply fled from evil. 👍🏻🤪😇

[@Bruised-Reed]

First world problem, first give thanks ypu have freedom to gather in his name. Second remember this is a secondary issue that has been debated and will continue to be debated in western society until the Lord returns. Remember there are great theologians on both sides and both sides believe they are correct biblically and that it is clear. Therefore you are unlikely to change anyones mind. Remember the evil one does not want you to attend church or serve in any church, and all churches are imperfect. If you can no longer serve and worship God then ask is this the really the major issue, or are you making this issue about yourself. Keep in mind this is a such a well known topic so, do not think your elders and pastor have not reviewed this already, ypu will not change their mind and you may face being labelled disruptive. Sounds like you needed to be supporting when the Church needs support, keep this in mind before you abandon your family in Christ. Ask yourself can God really not use this sister in Christ to lead me or others? There are many conservative churches who do ordain women, especially for women’s and children ministries, and they have not become progressive over time, I would not fear that, you can always leave then if major changes in beliefs occur. There are many places on earth at the moment where Christians have no church, no skilled leaders, no bibles, …if having a Priscilla figure is your only issue ….praise God.

[@mattd398]

If you are going to rely on Paul to support your theological points, it would be best to actaully quote him than use interpolations and disputed material. There were female apostles, and the first people to have any sort of theological authority would be women since they were the first to see the risen Lord and proclaim the message

[@Sujowi]

Thank you for stating some sense.

[@8snamor]

There were no female apostles mentioned in Gods Word. Jesus appointed no female apostles. No females led a church in Gods Word.

[@Bruised-Reed]

Any video encouraging people to leave a church, you have to wonder who benefits the most, Satan or the body of Christ. I think many staunch complimentarians will fall to their knees one day thinking of how much disruption and confusion they have caused unnecessarily over this topic. God can use anyone to preach and as long as it’s biblically sound it will be under Gods authority not man’s…or woman’s .

[@ScribeAlicious]

@@Bruised-Reedexcept scripture specifically prohibits women from preaching in a church context because that is not how God created the world to be. So the very idea of a woman pastoring a church is in itself unbiblical and rebellious against the command of God. It is people like you who encourage this silly notion of “God can use anyone” that leads to these churches’ inevitable apostasy. Because while it is true “God can use anyone” He has told us who He has chosen to use in this role in his word.

[@ScribeAlicious]

Scripture never mentions a single female apostle and History tells us the same. This is made up by hyper charismatics who want to justify their rebellion against God and His word

[@a.ihistory5879]

Thank God I'm Catholic 🙏

[@innovationhq8230]

If you are Papist then you aren't catholic.

[@haphazzard3431]

You don’t have a Pastor

[@keithwilkinson558]

I gave this a "thumbs down" because you kept referring to this place as a church. With a "female pastor" it is clearly not a church.