Hema throw

An example of how to utilize grappling and throws in longsword fighting.
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********************************************************************ATTENTION!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!****************************************************************** **********************************************************************TO ADDRESS COMMON COMPLAINTS********************************************************** This match took place on mats. Also Plenty of fights don't. Go Watch Street Beefs. Stop saying mats are needed. *Based on comments from the time **The fighter in Red had the wind knocked out him but otherwise was fine **Completing a throw is usually not allowed in Longsword Tournaments but for this specific tournament it was, which is why Red is so caught off gaurd *The pommel strikes Red lands are debatable in power. It's possible they would cause injury but personally I doubt it. I think it would just cut the face a bit and cause a headache. Whether they should be scored depends on rule set and judges.

[@PatrickPierceBateman]

Lmao! Red's pommel strikes did nothing.

[@rocksoldier]

It is very dangerous to throw people if the mat thickess is less than 5cm (2 inches), and this is not even taking into consideration the risk of falling on a sword

[@Traulma]

@@rocksoldier Agreed.

[@flowerswerewarpaint646]

Those mats really really look like hardwood

[@redred7289]

If they are on mats then why are they wearing shoes? It's obviously a wooden floor.

[@WmAHaynes]

In an alternate reality, a WWE wrestler just pulled out a claymore

[@ardian_g]

Drew McIntyre

[@dannyeckerd9324]

For some reason this just made me think of a drip styled claymore a "dripmore" if you will.

[@freedom9729]

Hahahaha

[@smallestgoober9399]

I was thinking about the explosive kind

[@assassinpredator1]

I mean not really cause wrestling is fake this is real that guy actually got fucked up

[@kappadestiny638]

*Fights with blunt swords to avoid hurting each other.* *Murders opponent with his bare hands.*

[@TheGreatDorian]

Makes sense, longswords can't penetrate most chain/plate armors. Blunt weapons on the other end...

[@josephanderson6311]

From a physics stand point armors greats atoms piercing and slashing type weapons but vs blunt weapons and gravity it becomes detrimental

[@lewlyboowlyman3669]

Why did you throw me those gloves “So you can catch these hands” -Caleb city

[@roftar]

@@TheGreatDorian Not really, any sword could leave a mark of an armor. You can also use the pommel as an hammer.

[@ayee7503]

Well, to be fair, the floor *is* a blunt weapon.

[@vicarious8989]

Man got slammed so hard he dropped his loot

[@ashfield4313]

Normally means dead

[@ainsly19]

Haha this comment is worthy 🤣😂

[@sullt9898]

And something else

[@powermutt4209]

Best comment

[@fred-d-boss]

😂😂😂

[@TheAfker]

"why am i in the air" is probably the last thought someone would have during a sword fight

[@roebuckmckinney]

It's the last thought anyone has at any time, except possibly for when you're skydiving. That's why it's so effective.

[@eomaker9819]

Not in Animes. In animes everyone’s flying

[@EmirOfOoey-Gooey]

@@eomaker9819 -kung fu flying?

[@CodeeXD]

Nah he pommel smashed his head. In a real fight he would have cracked his skull with those but since it's not a real fight he wasn't going full force. Even still the throw shouldn't have happened because the pommel smash to the head would have been a point and ended the round. He didn't wanna actually hurt the other guy so he didn't hit hard where as the dude in blue slams him full force. What we have here is a douchebag vs a gentleman

[@Didermann]

Why am I in the air? And am I up here 'cause I just don't care?

[@imstupid880]

"You okay?" But he was, in fact, not okay.

[@steveperks7054]

I heard that in Morgan Freeman's. Thanks for the laugh!

[@user-rh6jj9ov1m]

I had all the gold pieces of that bionicle

[@cd4playa1245]

Lmao!!

[@surbyug]

@@steveperks7054 really? I heard it in Ron Howard's voice. Too much Arrested Development in my life, I suppose...

[@digitaldream9yearslater743]

a b

[@KanuckStreams]

"I see you have parried my sword. But can you parry... THE GROUND?!"

[@jean-paulharrison1702]

This comment is gold

[@markcampione3118]

This comment is diamond

[@jethroboey7229]

I suddenly have the urge to animate a man who could parry the earth

[@custodianvrael6471]

@@jethroboey7229 His name is FighterPL on youtube

[@drunkpunch7334]

"The biggest fist is the ground"

[@steveking1037]

“While you studied the blade, I... learned how to fight.”

[@BawlBag]

And now you have the audacity to ask for a replacement hip?

[@salvatorerampello6247]

Right but if It was a fight to the death he wouldn't esitate to Stick the sword though his neck

[@steveking1037]

@@salvatorerampello6247 and he would have failed and gotten slammed, just like he did here.

[@Prince-jb9hm]

1000 yay

[@AJ--212]

@@steveking1037 lmao yeah i actually think it would have been more swift without the suit

[@remix1up]

Remember, switching to your arms is faster than reloading.

[@b1_ferg]

Bahaha, oh man, this got me.

[@phillipstai7204]

hahahaha True though.

[@dptheparcel7159]

😂

[@zachnies13]

"Switching to your arms is faster than repost and counterattacking"

[@Luke-th9fk]

LMAO

[@heli400]

“I’d win if you fought fairly!” “Well then, that doesn’t give me much incentive to fight fairly now does it?” -Captain Jack Sparrow

[@ethanruigrok7946]

This specific tournament allowed those kind of things. Thats why he did it.

[@jaketheasianguy3307]

Well, the rules allow you to do this so it's fair and square

[@fireflame5296]

@@jaketheasianguy3307 just because the rules allow it dosent mean it's fair lol

[@fireflame5296]

@Boomer Barrus your logic is dumb dude anyone that is 200 pounds and below can be body slammed easily like that dude was you're basically saying because someone isn't fat its their fault they're getting thrown around lol wtf and there's literally no defensive technique to stop getting picked up and slammed down

[@fireflame5296]

@Boomer Barrus and the slam is unfair because it's sword fighting not wrestling the guy was expecting to fight with swords not get hugged

[@nblhrt92]

Reminds me of an old saying: Never bring a sword to a greco-roman wrestling match.

[@ssmuggler1wizerd881]

classic

[@harvestblades]

honestly if you properly have a longsword against a wrestler you just have to use the range to your advantage. It just shows the singlemindedness of Red he was in a swordfight blue was in a fight.

[@VITAS874]

kzbin.info/www/bejne/a3rCloKcibijrq8 but there are exceptions...

[@completeshaman]

@@harvestblades -------------------- The Joke --------------> O \|/

[@NeillWylie]

Nice haha

[@jacobsantana603]

The person who wins at grappling is the one who realizes they're grappling first

[@opcodevoid7455]

Well done Jacob. I half hoped to see Anthony pop into frame laughing at the end. XD

[@biggusdickus1792]

Not if you're both trained. I've wrestled my entire life and the muscle memory is there, train enough and its hard to be caught off guard

[@BlikeNave]

"Let's sword fight!" Immediately throws sword and starts MMA lol.

[@BlueVideosBR]

xD

[@fadhli179]

U will be surprised at how much wrestling technique HEMA have, despite primary weapon based

[@TheStraightestWhitest]

Body to body combat happens within milliseconds even with bladed and blunt weaponry. There's a very good reason wrestling and Judo and the like was implemented into the combat arts of the Greek and Japanese and such.

[@logan5954]

Grappling is what they call it in the german manuals, but basically if you get so close to the opponent just beat the shit out of them. But then again there is actual moves for grappling

[@Annokh]

There's an opinion that modern HEMA rules (well, some rulesets, to be more precise) favour stuff like that. In order to give better representation to historical grappling - and it was common in armoured combat - rules were tweaked and takedowns like this can now score, and occasionally they score well. As a result, there are enthusiasts who criticize the way these changes were implemented because now they sometimes get to witness entire HEMA tournaments getting "stormed" by wrestlers who manage to win events almost like in this video: "clash, throw away your sword, slam the opponent", time after time. But then again, this is sports for you, as soon as you introduce score, you create metagaming, and it'll probably be ridiculous. This is not even the worst example, because from historical standpoint there's nothing unusual about ending fight on the ground. Although the criticism also has a point: when most anti-armour techniques are banned in tournaments for safety reasons, it is indeed bound to become wrestling competition with extra steps.

[@nashmishah6064]

huh. i thought he was gonna throw his sword at him or something.

[@13Kr4zYAzN13]

That's why I clicked 😂 lol

[@The8bitbeard]

I was waiting for one of them to unscrew his pommel and chuck it at his opponent to "end him rightly".

[@RagingRugbyst]

tbh I figured he'd unscrew the pommel and do the deed.

[@RuiSen1]

that’s what I wanted but I got sum better

[@king_koa7317]

I thought he was gonna throw his helmet...

[@carrie7225]

"Parry this you filthy casual"

[@chaslewis3334]

I lol’d way to hard at this 😂

[@WatchMysh]

Lol

[@cervixcrusader85]

When you try to counter Genichiro, Isshin, and Emma and they Judo throw you instead.

[@Inklenation]

OH LORDY that is gold!!

[@randomperson-sn4rj]

Sometimes you can't parry command grabs

[@vitorpavani7125]

This video just opened my mind to the possibility that medieval armored fighting was basically wrestling with sharp sticks. Cool.

[@ixxxxxxx]

its often that most armored duels could end up with both parties on the ground grappling, usually the dagger will be taken out by that point though

[@Mordecrox]

I remember one comment about medieval knights being very fit so they could sprint in full plate, so usual vs. Knight doctrine was to disarm the knight then overpower it with superior strength and hand to hand combat... Which is their actual expertise, so more than once someone thought disarming them made them helpless until realizing they now have 150 pounds of muscle wearing 50 pounds of steel who can outrun you and about to go medieval. In short, if disarmed but not disabled, it's WrestleMania time

[@BossX2243]

Usually knights would fight with pole arms and kill via blunt force through the helmet. However, if they got too close for the pole arms they would pull out daggers, wrestle, and try to stab each other through gaps in the armor

[@demilung]

When it was "to the death" it was. They would fight for a better position, then grapple for being able to finish the opponent with a dagger or something similar

[@emcash8874]

on the ground rolling around until someone gasses and they get a dagger in the arm pit. bleed out.

[@shalashashka3086]

"Do em dirty in front of they squad." - Sun tzu

[@spiceyboi7477]

Accurate

[@BatCostumeGuy]

Pretty sure Erwin Romell said that, but okay.

[@actualideas8078]

@@BatCostumeGuy he did try to kill Hitler..

[@spiceyboi7477]

@@BatCostumeGuy its a rephrasing of "strike an enemy with fierce precision and their allies will fall in fear" or something along similar lines

[@JOSH2625]

Your English is as stupid as your profile pic

[@TheDiego908]

He pulled off a successful class change mid battle from Warrior to Monk

[@kutthroatgdnyt4671]

Man went from Knight class to Smackdown

[@lukej452]

Thankfully it didn't turn into Rogue PvP otherwise there would have been bloodshed from the double Mutilate crit.

[@nikel-]

Nah he switched his style from swordmaster to royal guard

[@bloodassassin9285]

By hitting the pause main went to inventory respec and won

[@freshbison2359]

This dude's multiclass is showing

[@noahpatton9276]

Now it’s just a race of who can explain their side of the story to mom first.

[@meowmeowone8479]

This is the most important thing of all. Dad? It's all good. Mom? You done goofed.

[@thename5069]

@Soldat Kaiyodo be calm my angry little friend

[@iSTEFIXi]

@Soldat Kaiyodo hhahahaha my god you sound like a looser

[@oakenmind]

@Soldat Kaiyodo you must be fun at parties.

[@namepending5620]

@Soldat Kaiyodo I literally cannot stop laughing at your comment. I can't breath anymore it's so fucking funny. Please delete it so you can save my life.please, I beg you.

[@richardh6525]

I have a feeling he's like one of those sparring partners that just goes 100% when everyone is at like 60-70%. Edit - yes I know it's a tournament. This is a sparring joke - for those who have seen this happen in sparring. Thanks everyone!

[@vaporsouls6752]

Its one of them things you cant complain about someone but you are kinda pissed at it

[@richardh6525]

@@vaporsouls6752 yeah - a bit of a gnarly slam. But it was so nice no one even cared.

[@Yorikoification]

Yep, I've had to defend against a couple of boys like that during training. They don't know or don't care to hold back and then after 5 minutes they're winded xD

[@pedrogibbon6380]

@@vaporsouls6752 sparring isnt about going 100% because you want to prevent useless injuries. 100% sparring is a novice thing

[@cooldud7071]

@@RibbidyJamGames Sounds like you're just a lil bitch who can't handle a nice fight

[@skeletor7144]

at the end, blue squats down to red and whispers in his ear "come back in ten years"

[@anordhuscarl8226]

IT'LL BE YEEEEEEEAAAAARRRRS BEFORE YOU CAN FACE ME

[@ldq8492]

if you wish to defeat me train for another 100 years

[@thedog5k]

what does this reference ?

[@KKdessu]

@@ldq8492 -Sun Tzu

[@derkturtle7191]

@@thedog5k technoblade

[@lukasmendevi2242]

“If your weapon will be a hinderance upon the battle, abandon tradition and catch these hands, boi.” -Sun Tzu

[@RandyKing314]

Ahhhh, I see you found the secret Sun Tzu stuff.

[@Lechampion3]

Correction i your weapon was a hindrance

[@demonzabrak]

“Engage people with what they expect; it is what they are able to discern and confirms their projections. It settles them into predictable patterns of response, occupying their minds while you wait for the extraordinary moment - that which they cannot anticipate.” Apollos “They had us in the First Half” Hester

[@rob3439]

This is an amazing comment haha

[@PrinsPrygel]

@@demonzabrak Moving your shadow. - Go Rin No Sho.

[@jacobblanton5179]

Ah, you know you're having good clean fun when someone shouts: "Medic! MEDIC!!"

[@howdy5005]

that's the comment i was looking for

[@dumbleking5172]

"Doc! C'mon man!" -Some male Boston teenager with a lime cap

[@morroghaiky6580]

@@dumbleking5172 "Archimedes?"

[@alexanderzippel8809]

Hheeeyyyy! I have your profile picture as mine on Reddit

[@DavidFletcher08]

Charge me doc

[@bigbadword]

After watching this several times I feel like it was his plan to throw him before the fight even started.

[@BaldorfBreakdowns]

100%

[@moguldamongrel3054]

Seems like revenge honestly. Lol maybe he was losing in this tournament so badly he resorted to melee. Or dudes just a bigger guy and likes bullying people. Who knows.

[@alexhicks6207]

@@moguldamongrel3054 looks like the guy disarms him and he just continues to attack

[@harminflictor]

@@moguldamongrel3054 my man sword fighting would also be melee. This is hema lol, similar to mma but with weapons. Ringen or wrestling is a form used by many Hema fighters

[@DaneTheInsane675]

@@alexhicks6207Going frame by frame it looks a lot like he purposefully drops the sword once he has pushed back the other dude to a position where both of his hands are above his head. After this he immediately grabs him around the waist and the proceeds to throw him. If it wasn't premeditated, then that man must have some insane reflexes. I at least can't really wrap my head around this being anything else than a pre-planned attack.

[@Neo2266.]

_“Dumbledore gently bumped into his opponent”_

[@jacktait9849]

lol

[@BusinessDog2000]

this comment fkn killed me thank you

[@Neo2266.]

@@BusinessDog2000 No problem, happy funeral

[@toxic_tomb1238]

He calmly asked "DID YOU PUT YOUR NAME INTO THE GOBLET OF FIRE?"

[@Z43K]

HARRYYYY POOOOOTTTTERRRR

[@devantebrown179]

“If you must only wound a man, you better kill his pride.”

[@markarnold2257]

Damn. That's hardcore!

[@oscarking6309]

~Sun Tzu

[@thezman9001]

And the Man.

[@Bebolife12345]

-Michelle Obama

[@karunungangsulit]

Kick a man's ball and he will stand up but kill a man's pride and he will lay waste on the ground.

[@benderrofminds519]

*squats down* "We've been trying to reach you about your car's extended warranty."

[@mattooi4322]

Underrated comment

[@lotuscat3173]

Actually funny

[@chavzone]

Caught me off-guard almost as much as red was

[@mmcss1155]

Your comment doesn't apply to this video AT ALL. So why did I find it so darn funny? 🤣🤣🤣

[@jeffercinadams9026]

@@mmcss1155 because they call everyday and switch numbers after you block them all!

[@BrianTKessler]

His opponent wasn’t just surprised… he was floored.

[@notalltheories]

This comment is so underrated 😂

[@Immortal_BP]

This guy knows how to make girls fall head over heels for him.

[@bulldog666999]

Bravo 👏

[@jbeyond7402]

yea he really ended up taken aback.

[@isaacgraff8288]

well played good sir.

[@Ry-bo9hi]

clip that shit and send it to me -Sun Tzu

[@xgu4642]

Lol

[@hotsprinkles]

this is the best comment i've seen so far, thank you

[@shaynewilliams4482]

A comment from the gods

[@gerageobushma8970]

All warfare is based. -Sun Tzu

[@LeeePowers]

"Imm gonna spend years licking a gall bladder to motivate me to avenge my loss to Sun Tzu." Goujian

[@jpasta3599]

“You’re well trained in the way of the sword, but the sword isn’t my weapon of choice...”

[@azurath1845]

You beat me to the joke by 2 days, gg

[@Mionikoi]

Spears are better.

[@ScottCyclops]

My weapon of choice is the ground. Opponent: Sorry I just dont see it. Dont worry you will see it soon.

[@StevenMcFlyJunior]

What? Where? I don't see Christopher Walken anywhere .......

[@liltailhole3899]

“Boss, try remembering some of the basics of CQC”

[@C0astDelta]

*Unsheathes claymore before charging russians*

[@chicoscience502]

Knife + gun = Knifegun

[@modnarnosrep1822]

"Mission failed, we'll get them next time"

[@codiserville593]

Tap the square button lightly for a chokehold

[@Brothernumber3]

You're.... pretty good

[@ExileLuciola]

HEMA Enthusiast: "I want to experience the skilled art of swordsmanship!" All 'round Athlete. "I'm going to do everything I can to win."

[@Rocket_this]

if you aint cheating, you clearly aint trying

[@draco_1876]

Grappling was part of the battlefield

[@keikei2942]

@@draco_1876 yes but this isn't a battlefield, these people are just practicing a sport for fun

[@ferumcastrum4097]

@@keikei2942 Well Hema is basically MMA with swords, it isn’t illegal.

[@sirnick12]

Nah to be honest if you look at the oldest manuscropt out there by Fiore, he has much more grappling plays explained than sword plays xD Tbh nothing shows greater skill than properly executed lock, or throw, and it shows huge skill, it isn't necessarily easy to close in and get a proper throw when a sword is pointed at you. Even here you can argue that the throw wasn't that good as it allowed the opponent to get a proper pommel strike to the top of his head. If you want to see how a throw in this position may be executed better just look up Meyers 1st longsword throw

[@MasterKcoop]

*Squats down* “Easy mode is now selectable”

[@darksoulsrage1270]

I know this reference.

[@osmannurettincoban496]

Yeah, that phrase hurt when I saw it.

[@laserlights9684]

Ouch

[@davidthor4405]

@@darksoulsrage1270 Ey nice profile

[@ltcmdrtobyfox3969]

"Would you like to switch to assisted mode?"

[@themostdeadmeme1609]

Me at the start: Oh he'll probably throw his sword and confuse his opponent! That'll be funny! ... *"O H L A W D"*

[@taintedmyth0s636]

Yeah that's what I thought. Yikes, there's a reason this isn't legal in most tournaments...

[@TheScamr]

@@taintedmyth0s636 People with a real warrior aspect despise tournament rules. Everyone has to decide if they undertake a task for mere physical enjoyment and discipline or to work on the warrior aspect that may save their lives. t.Miyamoto Musashi

[@UncleMerlin]

@@TheScamr I too would like to utilize my glock in a tournament for swords to show off my real warrior aspect and thus I despise these rules that say I'm not allowed to murder my opponent in cold blood - Tsun Tzu

[@frostigamer9740]

😂 😂 😂 Same

[@TGears314]

@@UncleMerlin HEMA is historical European martial arts, please understand Greco Roman wrestling is historical, a martial art, and European. If I was naming a sport that, I would include that type of wrestling. The real crime here is that he did it on a hard surface. The floor should have a mat at least😬

[@derekrambo]

Next recommended video: "HEMA Gun."

[@gickygackers]

Wrestling is at least a historical european martial art (HEMA)

[@Simplefng]

Crossbow?

[@freekjegeen8603]

@@gickygackers arguably, so is flintlock dueling

[@gickygackers]

@@freekjegeen8603 not arguably, absolutley it is. I'm not saying that wrestling is more of a HEMA than guns, but his comment was trying to make an extreme juxtaposition, where nobody would suspect guns in the title, like how nobody expected the throw in the sparring video.

[@TheMisterGuy]

SEKIROOOOOOO

[@Kyrieru]

Man, going back in time and seeing actual combat would be really surreal. Would be like Luke going back in time and realizing jedi used to do flips and shit.

[@labradoodleandpalz]

Movie directors: realistic fighting doesn’t look cool enough. Hema:

[@reguluscorneas9026]

Well it can look cool but you see the problem is....... that it ends in 10 seconds

[@imperiousrex128]

@@reguluscorneas9026 Unfortunately for the film industry and our entertainment, that's how fights tend to go.

[@tylorianfan8873]

If someone would take a little creative liberty regarding the length of a fight, but incorporate historical, practical, and plausible fighting techniques within a fight scene, I'd be a very happy man.

[@TotallyNotLoki]

@@tylorianfan8873 have you seen some of the fight choreography by Adorea Olomouc here on KZbin?

[@tylorianfan8873]

@@TotallyNotLoki They're a really great example. Long, dramatic fights with plausible fight choreography depending on the setting. I also found The Dragon Prince in some scenes to be a decent example (not to mention the human factions' armor are so well designed in that show).

[@Kaimmen]

guy in blue: you acting too relaxed for someone *in command grab range*

[@DrNeonGaming]

Had the Melee Marth range on that fuckin grab

[@spicypepperz]

I was thinking some samurai showdown where you get disarmed then just end up using command throws to win haha

[@OddWolf666]

*Smiles in SMUG*

[@babypyroshark2604]

I mean that was kinda what happened wasnt it I mean a long sword like that has an effective range. Im pretty sure if someone gets close enough that you cant freely move your sword you should either create distance or drop the sword like blue did

[@Wolvenworks]

pot buster time

[@comeonnodont5569]

"this fencing club sucks..." -Guy on ground

[@FlorisGerber]

If someone uses a throw like this in our club, he gets shown the door. It is absolutely enough to lift to get the point, executing the slam would be heavily frowned upon.

[@FlorisGerber]

@J Jones very obviously. I train about 10 hours per week now, right after the lockdown. I trained much more before. If I threw my partners like this, I would in very short order have no partners. If you want to call me a pussy for that, then do.

[@Shanoyu19271]

@@weeb1742 Dude u look like a clown

[@weeb1742]

@@Shanoyu19271 stfu you look like panda express

[@FlorisGerber]

@J Jones why should I want to prove you wrong. It's not me that shows his qualities as a debater by calling someone else a name.

[@AbysmalRapture]

Don't feel bad dude, I can never hit "X" fast enough to get out of guard breaks either

[@Zaiqu0]

I wanna say this is referring to for honor but I have no idea

[@StrawHatTruthy]

Yea that faint was crazy.

[@bray3416]

@@Zaiqu0 It is a for honor reference lmao

[@Falling_Devil]

Ubisoft nerf the blue guy please, these soft feints into demon embrace is getting ridiculous

[@sindeviltrigger9268]

A for honor references. Love it! You sir have made my day!

[@vghit921]

Dude *gets back up* “Alright rematch” *gets into stance pulls out gun*

[@matiasfermandois264]

"Parry this you filthy casual!" *Gets parried* *Panicks*

[@adamhockgeiger9575]

He’s not getting back up for a bit lol

[@ecliptin5395]

I mean i would too

[@humann5682]

It's HEMA dude. He's pulling out a crank loading crossbow 😂

[@humann5682]

​@adamhockgeiger9575 Annoucer after 5 minutes "He's okay folks! Give him a big hand!"

[@DickEnchilada]

Blue: "Have at you" Red: [parries] Blue: "parry this, you filthy casual"

[@Kiyomi1238]

Red: [dodge attacks] "I don't need to parry it, I can dodge it" Red: *has evolved from Orochi to Aramusha*

[@DickEnchilada]

@@Kiyomi1238 red literally got bodyslammed bro

[@huhrawz]

69 likes

[@rambojacksonjr7887]

This the one 😂😂😂

[@floydandriessen3995]

Copying comments from another vid is already sad. But copying a top comment and literally post it under the same vid? Boi....

[@treygrimm9689]

Well...wrestling is allowed in some HEMA tournaments in Russia but we have 1 rule: Just show your advantage over your opponent, do not suplex him х)

[@distrurbedGNR]

Wasn’t a suplex just a May return

[@distrurbedGNR]

Mat

[@WhyName]

That's well and good until the other guy pommel strikes you in the face. Then he's getting yeeted.

[@maximad5997]

@@WhyName Judges could be picky about the pommel strike to the face, but you have to remember if he's being lifted in the air when that happens it's not going to be much force and strength as you were standing on two feet on the ground.

[@WhyName]

@@maximad5997 I'm not sure what your point is, but the guy who got pommeled had his face swell up to the point he couldn't chew after this.

[@hardgay7537]

"Why do we need to grapple in a sword fight if all we gotta do is thrust a sword?" "The enemy cannot thrust a sword if you dislocate his arm. MEDIC!" Sorry, this little scene reminded me of Starship Troopers for a second.

[@thedeviantguy]

It’s because that scene is directly referencing a scene in a book that had a plain point to make about this exact scenario. It doesn’t matter if you can nuke a bug hole with a grenade, eventually you will run out of grenades. You might even lose that arm. Even if you do, you are still a weapon. Combat isn’t just about pushing buttons or throwing nukes around.

[@Centauri902]

@@thedeviantguy You missed the point entirely. You will never run out of grenades if you are working with even a hallway competent industrial complex.

[@Saintbow]

The clubs motto: "safety third"

[@anotherfoundsheep1773]

Lmaaao gold

[@Masterbaiter1000]

What's first and second?

[@raenbow1531]

@@Masterbaiter1000 grab and yeet of course

[@kotsu1825]

@@raenbow1531 😂

[@abyass6]

😂😂

[@haveaday1812]

Imagine the locker room conversation after: “What the fuck Steve? You were just at my house for a barbecue yesterday!?”

[@AJ--212]

@@user-ww1zr2qt2h not my fault you stole my dang pig

[@kicknuter5307]

@@AJ--212 the fuck you say about her get ready you bitch(pulls out sword)

[@bouncydachon]

@@kicknuter5307 EN GARDE BITCH!!!

[@aaronmyers5970]

AYE MAN🤣🤣🤣🤣U BOUT KILLED ME WITH THAT ONE🤣🤣🤣😭😭😭

[@Pandora880]

@@kicknuter5307 I heard intense music after reading that

[@royalpancakes7807]

Ah yes the forbidden sword art of *Yeet*

[@WanderingRonin509]

Located within the country of Yeetland

[@EmptyBrewsky]

Residing upon Planet Yeetz.

[@RW-tv6py]

In the yeet star system

[@blueorb8994]

And the Galactic naborhood of *Yeetus Feetus*

[@YeetYeet-vj8vl]

You have called?

[@jaygrand4180]

"holy fuck, that's a lot of damage" -Sun Tzu

[@averagecalisthenicsguy1504]

kzbin.info/www/bejne/jZzSoqluetFkqac

[@Mordecrox]

"To show the power of my teachings, I'm going to break this man in half!"

[@ethon3733]

Just imagine a Knight in full plate armor bodyslamming another Knight.

[@Jim-tb7sj]

Fun fact, alot of times that’s how fights to the death would end, because of the impenetrably thick armour some knights wore their opponents would slam them to the ground and finish them by slotting a dagger through small holes in helmets, neck guards and under the armpit. Just imagine that, that’s pretty brutal

[@haydanoc8779]

It would sound like my mum when she’s angry and she loudly wants eEeEeeEveRyy to know she’s doing the dishes. Plates: **smash**

[@nathanjensen2374]

@@Jim-tb7sj Eeww... Imagine the knight just writhing around on the ground, unable to get up or out of his armor while another knight attempts to stick a dagger into him through his armor. That must have been horrifying for both parties involved.

[@rejectedrocket5348]

@@nathanjensen2374 I remember seeing such a scene in a movie. The two knights fought for quite a while until they both wore out. They wrestled for a bit, and then one knight got a hold of a knife. I believe it is on Netflix, but I don't recall.

[@Nomans_Nomen]

End game historical melee combat was basically american football with full plate armor, poleaxes, and rondel daggers.

[@petersmythe6462]

"If brute force doesn't work, you aren't using enough of it."

[@lazy2253]

-Sun Tzu, The Art Of War

[@MesaperProductions]

"If you find yourself in a fair fight, your tactics suck." - Me (probably)

[@mauricioraigosaclavijo8833]

"In love and war any hole is a trench" Jesus Christ

[@Skeletor_the_Bigg]

“If your enemy dares to approach, fold his ass like an omelet,” -Sun Tzu, The Art of War

[@trevormoses5061]

LOL

[@enigmaodell6806]

You best split like a banana before you get folded like an omelet gamer.

[@trashpanda2219]

This is one of the funniest Sun Tzu misquotes I've seen

[@AltairAC]

You got me in the first half there

[@albertoalmeida3424]

Geez, I can't laugh, I broke my ribs. But this was funny!

[@ericoseid9612]

Shows why wrestling is so important to integrate in all martial arts. Wrestling really is the fundamental discipline of all fighting.

[@trodai9607]

The guy got thrown on solid ground. I don't care what affinity you have for wrestling that shit's uncalled for in my opinion.

[@ericoseid9612]

Trodai all i’m saying is that if you can’t grapple, you can’t fight. Either way, if it’s permitted under this ruleset, then it’s definitely called for.

[@ericoseid9612]

Trodai also there are mats lol

[@trodai9607]

Eric there's a difference between grappling and picking up an object and slamming it. Fighter 1 (thrower) had other options here, but it was clearly a premeditated move. Throwing is a common thing in HEMA (especially German ringen) but if either partner doesn't know how to fall correctly or throw the opponent, it's plausible for extreme injury. The ground in this video is not matted, otherwise I might have an altered opinion.

[@trodai9607]

Eric Oseid don't get me wrong, grappling is crucial to martial arts since almost every melee ends up on the ground.

[@galavant2754]

Y'know who wins when a sword fight turns into a wrestling match? The first person to realize it's now a wrestling match.

[@mememachine5378]

Dude asked "Are you okay" like he didnt just lift this man off the ground entirely and lay him out like some laundry

[@pumbukin_pumbuken809]

Lmao love your pfp

[@aitor9158]

@MrMisterMan source?

[@Firefox-Udon]

Bruh he's just a Terry Bogard main

[@mauricioraigosaclavijo8833]

@MrMisterMan Sauce?

[@alucardican9785]

@MrMisterMan false

[@JeshuaMorbus]

When you play chess, make sure that your opponent think you're playing dice.

[@TaGF_Tomcat]

what

[@mikeas0216]

wtf is playing dice man

[@prescottnovelli81]

Lmao

[@gaylussac6156]

Sigma Male Octohedrillionaire Grindset

[@neth7826]

Randomly, guys. Make them think you dont have a plan.

[@Closed1405]

Damn that thrust going into the transition for the throw was so smooth, it looked like he was waiting all his life to do just that

[@solidfoxzero2256]

Muscle memory at best

[@pillmill8987]

He had that throw planned from day one.

[@FingerinUrDaughter]

there was not a single thrust in this video, the fuck did you watch?

[@TurtleGamers1]

​@@FingerinUrDaughter now that's a nasty fucking response

[@ixxxxxxx]

in slow mo you can tell just how much he wanted to do that throw from the very start

[@zhanibek_kk]

Wrestling was a big part of armored combat around the world. Everyone is blaming Judo bro but really the tournament organizers are at fault for creating rules where you’re allowed to slam, but not having any mats to fight on.

[@Auto70Galaxy]

If this is legal here then the ufc should add a surpise sword attack during fights. lol

[@solidfoxzero2256]

They allow it but blue did it over the top

[@finitesound]

This is heavily looked down upon.

[@janetweed]

the way I see it is red had bad posture and left himself open the hole throw could be avoided if he kept a stable stance or kept blade front he'll learn from his mistakes or be thrown again in do time trust me its better than getting Shield bashed by someone 3 times your size in the meantime MEDIC

[@notyourmom1035]

"Well next time save *ME* some ribs"

[@readhistory2023]

@@finitesound You might as well take a dancing class to learn how to use a sword. It's not sword fighting it's cosplay with swords.

[@ilyasbasuki3207]

Critical hits in games: *twirls sword and performs some fancy schmancy attack* Critical hits in real life: *B O D Y S L A M*

[@saloneju]

Although back in day,wou would end this move by taking your dagger and thrusting it to his eye socket til he moves no more:--)

[@InceyWincey]

People say learn Jujitsu for self defence. Incorrect, learn Judo. An untrained assailant will have absolutely no defence against a quick throw, and they will not be getting up and chasing you with any vigour for a couple of minutes. Getting slammed into the ground will stun you bad. Just be sure not to slam them head first, you don’t want to get arrested for manslaughter.

[@delinkwent7375]

@@InceyWincey but what if i do?

[@InceyWincey]

@@cibo889 I think he gets arrested for murder if they find this thread. He needs to find a new way to kill someone accidentally on purpose now that he knows this.

[@Gr3nadgr3gory]

@@InceyWincey self defence is self defence! Who cares how I did so if the end result is the same? I'm not getting arrested for manslaughter if I shot my assaliant! At least not in this state.

[@genny1814]

“If you can’t draw blood, put them in the mud.” -Son Shoe

[@baileydombroskie3046]

Where ever u got that, and watever, it just sounds way too good both practically and rimmingly.

[@butternug5303]

Planted

[@Yarp-xj3rd]

@@baileydombroskie3046 lol, you said "rimming".

[@baileydombroskie3046]

@@Yarp-xj3rd I didn’t proof read that comment apparently. Auto spell check works in mysterious ways. Idk wat I tried to say but spell check made up its mind wat it wanted me to say.

[@Yarp-xj3rd]

@@baileydombroskie3046 who knows man. Chalk it up to one of life's mysteries. 😅

[@Brick_Squared]

"I've practiced swordsmanship for tens of thousands of hours." "But I'm about to body slam this fool."

[@Skerdy]

Actually, European Knights did use a lot of grappling and unarmed fighting techniques (puches and kicks and so on). We have the illustrations on the manuals that prove that they were taught that, so that move is historically legit.

[@Brick_Squared]

@@Skerdy Right. It was a quip regarding how quickly the match was concluded. Never said they didn't use non weapon-based techniques. Similar to their Japanese counterparts, the Samurai.

[@WhuDhat]

Wonder if any shit talking ensued pre match to facilitate that slam haha. Or maybe a bet between buddies?

[@Brick_Squared]

@@WhuDhat haha both scenarios I'd say are more than possible.

[@mk6315]

Roll initiative:20 Barbarian: I block his attack and suplex him

[@RavenMobile]

Funny, but suplexes go over the head as the attacker falls backward. This was a slam, using underhooks/body lock.

[@shadowlucario7125]

@@RavenMobile another reason this is wrong is because rolling initiative has nothing to do with blocks or attacks

[@Xentrolis]

@@shadowlucario7125 - True. But I still laughed.

[@nexus5178]

>Be me. Forever GM. Playing Pathfinder. >Party is currently in martial tournament, with Barbarian taking up the role of the participant, and everyone else watching from the sidelines. >Barbarian is currently in duel with a fighter. both are equal level. >Barbarian: I block his attack and suplex him. >Me: Um... alright, roll to grapple. >Barbarian: Nat 20 on grapple. >Me: Rolls nat 1 for fighter to break free from grapple. >Barbarian: Rolls max damage for suplex. >Me: Uhhhhh. >MFW the barbarian managed to drop the fighter's HP to zero in a single turn, knocking them out.

[@ehall3915]

@@RavenMobile bear hug

[@anthonyr622]

Dude died like a minecraft character, his equipment is scattered all over the floor. 😂

[@Werewolf.with.Internet.Access]

When you’re playing Skyrim and decide that that bandit needs a taste of these hands and the fucking earth.

[@stalinsoulz7872]

Marauder: has Greats word* Me: *Takedown Mods Installed* Also me: He ain't Gonna Know what hit em

[@shoemakerx0105]

When a drauger disarms you, so you decide to punch and accidentally get a crit attack

[@guythatlikesbananas6293]

kzbin.info/www/bejne/eaSraoCrZtuZoLc

[@mydogsnameisbeans]

“You win battles by knowing the enemy’s timing, and using a timing which the enemy does not expect” Miyamoto Musashi The Book of Five Rings

[@duchi882]

This shows you the importance of distance management. Especially the moment of clashing between two individual's Fighting Measure.

[@jonasbuyle1341]

Yeah , he should have stepped back instead of pummeling , he didnt saw it comming

[@MrHoldredge]

i mean it only worked because it wasn't a real fight. dude hit him twice softly with the pummel to the top of his head. could have easily cracked the skull/smash his brain.

[@agent_table6272]

@@MrHoldredge your telling me back when swords were used for fighting they didn't have helmets?

[@MrHoldredge]

@@agent_table6272 you know metal based helmets get fucked by blunt force right? That's why why people would also learn to hold their sword by there blade and beat people to death with the hilt of the sword. It's a real thing look it up lol

[@thedemonslayer51]

@@MrHoldredge That takes hammer levels of force to cause any damage to the wearer. Sure, that pommel strike _might_ be able to dent the metal, but underneath is almost always a padded coif. Yes, murder strokes were a thing, but they only worked because of the extra length and often very narrow cross guards to generate a lot of force.

[@therewill1584]

"Everybody has a plan until they get hema throwed" -Mike Tyson

[@ryanchong9965]

"Therefore, hema throw everyone."

[@MrCoffeejingler]

"So i have two attack actions, id like to grapple him with 1 and then slam him to the ground with the other" "I'll allow it"

[@ImVeryMuchBored]

Ah, the life of playing Fighter, without Battle Master.

[@thesuperbslidewhistler312]

I would like to spend a superiority die to use “Grappling Strike” to grapple as a bonus action after hitting with an attack, gaining a superiority die to the grapple check.

[@Veckoza]

This is why I go Shield Master; bonus action to shove prone, then two attacks at advantage.

[@Jafroboy]

@@Veckoza Technically you have to make an attack before you can get the bonus action.

[@Veckoza]

@@Jafroboy Nope, it says "You must use the attack action." It doesn't say if I have to do it before or after, but I am locked in if I shoved first.

[@robynharris7179]

I don’t what rules of engagement you were fighting under. But the most dangerous element I saw was that, while fighting with what appear to be edged steel weapons, one fighter’s head, neck, and throat protection fell off. That would certainly seem to be an excellent recipe for serious injury or death.

[@eva2602]

they're pretty heavily blunted and it's accepted as a dangerous sport from the get-go in general

[@commandergelatoalighieri]

Blue squats down next to red and says "Why would you make me do this?"

[@Xqvvzts]

"Think, Red! Think!"

[@Werewolf.with.Internet.Access]

“You’re fighting to watch your entire body get slammed down and die!”

[@Air_Vincks]

"You're fighting to watch this entire sport die!"

[@StrawHatTruthy]

WHAT WILL YOU HAVE IN 5 MORE MATCHES?!

[@stephonmanny7555]

I'll have you Blue. I'll have you.

[@kgb5507]

The way he picks up the helmet makes him look like he just looted the body

[@adriansayoc2775]

This comment is so fucking underrated

[@moparmatt5683]

It’s a unique item only found in the first tutorial mission

[@travishouse5988]

KGB, to the victor goes the spoils... 👊🏾

[@user-gr7iy7vh6f]

Hello fellow KGB agents.

[@Lukasg3d]

Guy seems like he sniffed a couple of lines before fighting

[@SkyNinja759]

B e S e R k E r

[@YamatoXion]

Hahahahaha!! xD

[@username-yc3bd]

@@siren499 Throws are pretty common in hema

[@grimace4257]

@@SkyNinja759 I heard that in Lloyds voice 😂

[@Dingbobber]

@@siren499 Juicing? You’ve never felt the rush of testosterone in your body you get from sports.

[@Skaiform]

First guy: well I can’t ACTUALLY stab him, allow me to lightly slash at his armored area, jolly good fight lad! En garde! Second guy: I’m going to break your spine.

[@0o0Zero0o0]

This man came for sword fights. Instead he got aggressive hugs.

[@grantjackson974]

This is why it’s important to have matches take place on mats.

[@kidddogbites]

These are on mats. Look at the edges you can see the interlocking squares. Its just a wood design

[@matthewpham9525]

kidddogbites *good* mats

[@sampokemppainen3041]

This guy just hasn't trained any landing.

[@RedSarGaming]

@@kidddogbites I think those are just outer ring markers, the floor they are fighting on is wood.

[@TudorFencing]

@@RedSarGaming No they are puzzle mats that they are fighting on which have a wood grain print on them. These are popular.

[@saureco]

"Sir, I shall now reset you back to blacksmith settings. I bid you good day. "

[@ArkamasRoss]

“Embrace your enemies. With both arms around them, how can they attack you?” This guy: Hey that’s a good idea!

[@iAmIronMan0605]

That's probably one of those moves that's allowed but nobody wants to use unless you dislike the guy.

[@sethbennett617]

Its hema, if anything grappling is actively encouraged in situations where it could be used. They dont encourage all out wrestling but a grapple in the right situation is seen as a good use of technique.

[@tenyako]

The reaction from the bystanders felt positive to his action from my perspective, so I assume its legit. I hope dude in red is fine, did not appear like he is trained in falling properly. I thought it was a very good move, considering its a fight.

[@pingusbror]

@@tenyako There is no training that can help you "fall correctly" when being slammed like that. The burden lies on the thrower to know and employ their training to soften the landing. This guy in the video did the opposite - he followed through by putting his weight behind it too. This is not a brawl, there is no need to actually hurt your opponent when just showing that you could've done so is enough to score, this is the same reasoning employed for choosing bendy feders over blunt but rigid swords. No HEMA competitor expects to suffer a fractured hip or spinal injury, they expect bruises, maybe a broken finger, not much more than that though. Even some of the more aggressive sports (like MMA for example) which do utilize proper safety-oriented floor matting still have quite a few rules about what is and isn't allowed in terms of slams. One example of an illegal move would be controlling the opponents body to turn it upside down and then "spiking" their head into the ground (which can cause quite severe injuries related to spinal compression).

[@performxl]

@@pingusbror I suspect borken ribs&slipped discs are par for the course for a slam like that

[@thomastucker7317]

I'd say so. It's definitely a minority of hema clubs which actually teach grappling of this level. Most will either just touch on it, or just focus on grappling of the arm, or just focus on the fencing. I think every tournament I've been to has disallowed throws or grappling of the body because they know most people attending, offender or defender, won't have been trained to throw safely nor fall safely (not to mention the danger of being thrown on a sword), in favour of only allowing grappling of the arm (or none at all in some cases). If this were seen at any tournament I've been a part of they would likely forfeit the match, perhaps even the whole tournament were it deemed serious enough

[@zaquhe]

*Guy gets flipped onto the ground* Me: Aw, that was nice. "Medic!" Me: Aw, that wasn't very nice.

[@skpcboy]

lmao same thought

[@Ancient_Entity]

He just got the wind knocked out of him... hopefully

[@UsDiYoNa]

No pussies on the battle field unless theyre between the legs of bad ass women

[@fire_fux]

I heard the impact and was like...... He's either got the wind knocked out of him or he's gonna be gettin a wee-woo ride.

[@zxcasf]

@@UsDiYoNa I'm sure that sounded much cooler in your head.

[@---jt5wg]

And here I assumed this sword stuff was a gentlemanly pastime. . .

[@NomadTheProtogen]

That seems to be fencing, this is medieval horde techniques.

[@iBloodxHunter]

You assumed wrong good sir!

[@kategrant2728]

It is. This is how Gentlemen fought

[@jaybee7271]

Willingness to get hurt and die to prove a point was pretty much rooted in gentlemans code so idk where you got this sissified image from

[@guidomonto3742]

@@jaybee7271 they got it from the name “gentle” men.

[@danielziwicki1149]

It would be hilarious if he yelled HEMA THROW as he dropped the kid

[@UniverseOliveTree]

That man had no intention of keeping hold of his sword, by the time the other guy was open he already had himself barreling in for a grapple.

[@bobbob-vt3bw]

I mean it worked

[@ColdNorth0628]

@@bobbob-vt3bw yeah but grapples on those "mats" is dangerous. Man put full force on a brutish slam.

[@TeemoQuinton]

@@ColdNorth0628 grapples in general are dangerous. As is striking somebodies face with your pommel.

[@TheLakabanzaichrg]

That take down is dangerous even on foam mats, almost popped my shoulder once

[@bobbob-vt3bw]

@@ColdNorth0628 I mean maby not in sparing but if your competing and it doesn't say no in the rules

[@dire2547]

"A wise warrior uses all he can in battle" -Some wise warlord, probably

[@kewintaylor7056]

The wisest....use another people go on front...and that warlord is the wisest stay bhind....drink wine...

[@NorthTexasEagle1989]

So stupid 😅

[@Semiotichazey]

I'm loving this comment on multiple levels

[@kingnothing5678]

Genghis Khan did practically everything from using plauge corpses and incendiary weapons

[@gansetsukon]

Didn't Musashi said something like "it's shameful to die without using all your weapons" or anything alike?

[@Restlessab]

Tutorial: Press " R1" and "X" to change stance to unarmed.

[@arabianprince7508]

Plz help stop Israel Zionists (nazi mentality) genocide against Palestine especially arresting thousands of children between 3-12 years old. 1) I know it's not your problem but your gov is funding them, so we need your support to spread the message 2) they own the media and use gaslighting to gain your support, there is alot of footage exposing them from unbiased sources just search Palestine on any social media even Joe rogan talked about it.....

[@davidcornfield7081]

@@arabianprince7508 lol no

[@thejerrylarryshow1953]

@@arabianprince7508 kids die, birds fly, and brotha, I hurt people

[@duke4726]

@@thejerrylarryshow1953 ima force of nature

[@guythatlikesbananas6293]

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[@hop-skipthechewtoys1836]

I've watched this a few times now, and considering how the grappler (lol) enters into the match with a really loose and non-commited grip on the sword, i don't think he had any intention to "sword fight" at all. Heck, I'm not entirely sure he knows how to use one But he clearly didn't need to lol. Maybe that was the point of the throw--why WOULD a swordfighter engage in such close quarters if the option to drop their opponent on their neck presented itself?

[@theswarmsquad3606]

He definitely knows what he’s doing since he’s in the right stance and knew how to displace the blade, but that was definitely the intention from the start

[@excaliburstone1294]

“Ask the enemy how the ground taste.” -Sun Tzu, art of war

[@CrimsonFox36]

"You dont fight with honor!" "No, but he did."

[@Frost_Winterfall]

For those curious, throws are legal in HEMA, but only if executed safely and as a controlled takedown. They actually give the most points for them during tournaments cause they are very hard to do. That being said, this was dangerous to say the least. Red had the wind knocked out of him, but if he had landed wrong could've been seriously hurt. Blue also threw his sword into what I assume would be spectators, definitely could hurt someone like that. I'm not an expert in HEMA or anything, but that's my two cents

[@kingash1982]

I don't know anything about this sport but I do judo, being thrown is OK with control, breakfalls etc. But what I just saw was too much aggression, assuming this is a training class / sparring. That guy is going to run out of training partners or one day someone as tough as him is going to return the favor and it might end in injury.

[@manticore4952]

I've seen people break their backs in bad landings. I've also landed badly in a real fight but lucky it wasn't my back that got hurt.

[@Rindsgulasch]

@@kingash1982 I did both judo and hema, and I like to do throws in HEMA. But the presence of two metal crosses to land on means if you care about the life of your opponent at all you lie him down as gently as possible. While the blade flexes on a stab, the guard doesn't, so landing on that is something you don't want to risk. That guy is incredibly dangerous and uncontrolled.

[@ZeroFucksLeft]

@@kingash1982 Looks like a competition.

[@frangilitt]

@@kingash1982 This was a tournament, but I agree with you, if this was an sparring or training session, that would be a warning call from me.

[@ElDrHouse2010]

brother be careful where you slam them, that is not Judoka cushioned floor.

[@ChrisDanceMusic]

"I used to be an adventurer like you but then i took a suplex to the back"

[@sausagepizza2195]

Dude slammed him on the floor and started to walk away, but then realised just how much power he had unleashed.

[@SirBrucie]

"Everyone has a plan until they get tossed on their ass" - Sun Tzu Edit: Ty for the likes fellow men of culture.

[@johnffreydeppstein2474]

"Damn there's a lot of Sun Tzu quotes in the comments" - Sun Tzu

[@SirBrucie]

@@johnffreydeppstein2474 lol

[@TownieFormal]

@Isaac Bowling I was about to comment the same thing

[@comradekenobi6908]

@@johnffreydeppstein2474 It all started because of that one Zanman - Sun Tzu

[@stray-wolf]

Hahahahaha, nice.

[@poja82]

I saw this video in a Ringen seminar as an example of bad technique and execice force, he could have done it way smoother, and safer.

[@highonthewayhome5347]

You can really tell the other guy did not expect that.

[@frankjohnson6474]

Yes, just wondering if legit move or not. Seems the other guy had no clue. Seems very odd. Similar to someone not expecting a kick in MMA.

[@DP-jt6xx]

@@frankjohnson6474 top comment says it was but usually throws aren't allowed in most tournaments

[@pr0mhell]

@@Jc-ks5lx Jack C from the youtube comment section I am your biggest fan

[@AlbinoKneecaps]

@@frankjohnson6474 grappling is legal in HEMA but he was probably not expecting that move.

[@alan5496]

Really took his breath away ... literally.

[@bobjoe3968]

When you accidently open the weapon wheel in the middle of a fight

[@raddledfluffy6077]

Thats so me

[@percivalconcord9209]

I don't think this is any more extreme than Judo or other wrestling sports or MMA. With safety mats this should be ok.

[@randylahey2242]

yea the safety mats would be perfect when the guy gets slammed on the sword, accident waiting to happen. Rebar will punch through a man and it's way more blunt than those..

[@sampokemppainen3041]

I do jiu jitsu, and i must say, that getting hit by a blunt sword is much more scarier than getting thrown. This dude just needs some takedown drills and defense.

[@ariovistus22]

Yeah this isn't safe fencing... sure it is historically accurate, but that floor isn't meant for full body take downs like that, and if he landed on the sword.. even the pummel.. he would be in the hospital. Not cool at all, it really is just a cheap shot.. I wouldn't want to fence with this guy.. I am sure kicking out the knee, throwing dirt in the eye, or stomping on the foot is historically accurate as well but you wouldn't do it when practicing.. unless you are a d*ckhead..

[@percivalconcord9209]

@@ariovistus22 I suppose those are the considerations that have to be taken into account. Either way, its been such a long we don't even know the context behind the tournament ruleset or what the fencers collectively agreed upon... But idk, perhaps it was a d*ck move. I don't think this at the level of like pocket sand, knee stomps, though kicks to the upper body isn't a problem I think. I mean, it is a part of KDF right? Running-through. In police Kendo you sometimes see trips, sweeps or pushes with the blade that knocks someone down and concussions them. Excessive and unecessary, thoughtless even may be the suitable term, but I find unskilled and cheap disputable IMO.

[@matthewpham9525]

Sampo Kemppainen With proper protective gear, pretty much every strike from a blunt sword has less potential for injury than this throw.

[@absolutetuber]

i remember this one time, at band camp...actually it was when i dabbled in judo during college....i got thrown and wasn't expecting it and it was similar to this. felt like every ounce of breath got knocked out of my lungs and i was down for the count for a while. i imagine this dude felt much the same.

[@yussufabukar32]

Sensei: when sword fighting, expect the unexpected Student: okay I think I got it. Sensei: *slams student* Sensei: no you don’t

[@kyletoelle]

You are the weapon, the sword is just an accessory. Great work

[@kaku4778]

When losing Hugs aggressively - just saying

[@DragonWinter36]

Regardless of whether Blue was being irresponsible or Red’s pommel strikes should have been a point, I hope we can all agree on at least one thing: *This looked badass as hell.*

[@arandombard1197]

Eh, he was already being lifted when he landed a very short pommel strike. It was more of a tap really.

[@Wolfbane192]

Nah, not really. Just looked like a dude who wanted to win, rather than actually do the thing he was there to do.

[@arandombard1197]

@@Wolfbane192 What if he was there to win?

[@R.E.L.Asphalt_Sealcoating]

No

[@Sakattack2023]

@@arandombard1197 then this participation trophy clown wouldn’t have a point. Which he doesn’t.