Hembrillo Basin and Victorio Peak Quick Tour

The site of one of the better known, and perhaps the largest, land-based treasures ever recovered or accessed in the US is in the State of New Mexico, now on White Sands Missile Range (*No Public Access). For the full story see the Gold House series of books - this little vid is just intended to give you some geographic orientation and a few tidbits that may or may not come up elsewhere.

[@ewellfossum]

My grandmother Evelyn Martine was the last Chiricahua Apache prisoner of war born in captivity in Ft Sill, Oklahoma in 1912. The Chiricahua were POWs for 27 years released in 1913 and a majority of the Chiricahua moved to Mescalero in 1913.

[@jackmyers1631]

Make sure everyone catches the new Discovery Channel show on Friday nights . . . Gold, Lies, and Videotape. It's about the Noss family and the gold.

[@timpage5021]

Came here after watching the 1st episode..

[@ewellfossum]

We have tales of our great great grandfather Victorio raiding and obtaining gold, which Apaches saw as worthless. My other great great grandfather was Mangas Coloradas and am also great great grandson of Chiricahua Apache US Scouts Charles Martine Sr and Paul Guydelkon Sr.

[@timpage5021]

It’s ok. I believe you.

[@ewellfossum]

@@timpage5021it doesn't matter troll, I am who I am.

[@timpage5021]

@@ewellfossum sure and Pocahantus is my grandmother.,

[@ewellfossum]

@Tim Page your a clueless Indah that has no idea of history, at least my history. Probably live in a city and have no idea how to live in the woods alone. That makes me smile because you have mind, probably thought Trump was your daddy!

[@ewellfossum]

Can't even speel her name right clueless and mindless.....🤣🤣🤣🤣

[@ncf1]

Excellent! That was great, to see the topography like that, I didn't realise the undergound system travelled beyond the base of Victorio Peak and that Bloody Hands was not directly at the Peak site. As an aside I saw somewhere (might have been an Amazon review) where Mr Delonas talks about a series on the whole VP ordeal, I wonder if that will come to fruition... would be amazing. But again loved the video, thanks for making it!

[@lostadamsgold]

@ncf1 Really glad you enjoyed it. Takes longer to put together these than you might think. Regarding underground structures, there's a lot of legends of underground rivers, caves that go clear through or connect mountain ranges in the area and all kinds of crazy stuff. There are a lot of caves, but I have not been in any huge ones, personally - other than Carlsbad, which is about two mountain ranges over. I keep hearing there's some sort of new production, but have not seen any trailers or hard more, yet. One can hope.

[@ncf1]

@@lostadamsgold thanks again, i do appreciate the time and effort taken to make the videos, its a lot of work. Great stuff.

[@TerryCartertreasurehunter]

Thanks AV

[@lostadamsgold]

Gonna miss your talk this week. Got called in to that 4-letter word again... work.

[@lrgtreeztgod3344]

Golds long gone

[@lostadamsgold]

Some think that this was but one of the 7 houses of the sun/gold. One of my other vids goes into that a bit (kzbin.info/www/bejne/n2nUop6PYsSae8U). Geronimo peak right next door may be another one (of the three, to the east). Caballos may be the center one. The West ones, I will keep to myself ;)

[@timpage5021]

@@lostadamsgold Victorio was a diversion.

[@lostadamsgold]

@@timpage5021 Can you explain more? Why would Noss and the group focus so much on the Peak if it was without merit? What about Fiege and Berlett? Seriously curious as to your theory. SOME part of this saga and associated tales are lies, deception, misdirection, etc. but I am not sure which.

[@jeepcherokeetallia]

Love your page! I know I sound like a total amateur (I kinda am) but I was curious if you could point out granite peak?

[@lostadamsgold]

Hi Matt, no worries, and thanks. Granite peak is over in the Caballos, to the West. At lest the one that I'm familiar with. Lots of lore around that and the immediate area. It is south of Burbank canyon. That's a place you can go visit, though the little outfit at the base is private land. Old timer buddy of mine says the original ruins there were extremely old (not the rock cabin), but I've never been on that private part to get my own opinion on that.

[@ewellfossum]

I'm also part Menominee, Badriver Ojibwe and Norwegian.

[@n9amiwavelengthradio]

It's amazing how people can poser away as an expert with google maps.

[@lostadamsgold]

Well friend, it may be hard to see through your cloud of negativity and hate, but I've been to the basin in person, know many people who tread there before either of us were born, and have a lot of information on this particular topic. I think Google Earth is great. I use it to find many things - things I go hike to & verify. But yeah, why use basically the best tool available?

[@n9amiwavelengthradio]

@@lostadamsgold Wheres all your real video and photos? Not all the stolden shit from other sources.

[@lostadamsgold]

@@n9amiwavelengthradio Ahhh, and the anger and arrogance continue. Most things in my vids are my own. Not the satellite imagery, of course. You just don't get it. And that's OK. Growing up is a process.

[@n9amiwavelengthradio]

@AV Adams its amazing. Well, not really. You pull the liberal anger card right away. You are a fraud plain and simple. Have a wonderful life, "friend." People know what you are doing here to make yourself feel important. You just keep on using other's hard work and portray yourself as an expert.

[@lostadamsgold]

@@n9amiwavelengthradio Oooh politics even. Wonder who hurt you so badly? And why you have so much hate. Your welcome for producing material interesting enough for you to freak out over. Sheesh, the internet just never quits - you win the meanie of the day award, for sure.

[@autotek7930]

Can ya'll explain to me how to identify a hand of God site?

[@lostadamsgold]

Hi there. I am not sure what a Hand of God site is. I googled it and a Terry Carter vid came up. I think that the guy is just saying a "thumb" of rock - so something with a major peak and a minor peak right next door? He gives some examples.

[@michaelsmiley15]

They are doing a new show on history channel about the peek One way or the other we will know the truth

[@lostadamsgold]

I know the author of the books from which a lot of the material for the show will be drawn: The Gold House. Great books. Chock full of transcripts and receipts and all sorts of stuff, and the author has a close relationship with the surviving Noss family. I suspect that the show will be mostly a moving-picture version of the truth as presented there. May be some new photos or interviews with the family, etc. so will still likely be worth a watch.

[@user-do7lp9fl8i]

Talk about the pin you have by questa New Mexico

[@lostadamsgold]

Up that way, the only things I can think of are Leon Trabuco's gold mesa and Madame Barcelo's lost packtrain. Could be related to Tres Piedras lost gold bars - hard to tell exactly which pins you are talking about. I have lots of pins dropped all over!

[@DanO530.8]

If there was gold buried there then the Indians buried gold in surrounding mountains

[@lostadamsgold]

The native locals of the time did not care a whole lot about gold, at least not anything more than any other ritual material or object. The whole story of the origin(s) of all that stuff crammed into the Peak is the biggest part of the mystery, to me!

[@DanO530.8]

@@lostadamsgold yea you kind of wonder if some of all that stuff was made up or was it all real or maybe the military did find it we are Irish and Spanish from toas n/m on my dads side and i know New Mexico really well we have the Spanish name ORTEGA

[@ewellfossum]

Any gold was put in one place, we used to stash fabric, dried meat, and mesquite beans or sumac or other stuff that could sit for months in small caves throughout the T or C, Silver City, Lordsburg, and Columbus areas into Mexico for we were always on the move.

[@autotek7930]

Av can you email me.