Excellent to watch and compare. (BLS support crew member)
@johnprice71374 ай бұрын
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@DerekWalsh-l4i5 ай бұрын
My impression of that last clip was that "Bahamas" had reached a "balancing speed" on that gradient, and if it had continued for another 2 miles the engine would not have gone any slower. A fine effort from a Class 6 engine.
@bobwood856 Жыл бұрын
The 47 was making more smoke than Sir Nigel. For a very brief moment I imagined a steam banker.
@steamtothewest-trecanrail Жыл бұрын
Now that’s going back a few years
@chriselliott1261 Жыл бұрын
A 57xx doesn't make dirty smoke like that
@MyMustang7211 ай бұрын
probaly because it is doing all the hard work,a4s useless on banks,except on stoke bank going downhill.
@22pcirish4 ай бұрын
An operational nightmare for any trains following. Everyone on overtime!😂
@22pcirish4 ай бұрын
@@MyMustang72it’s a very long grade to be fair.
@thomasrowe7499 Жыл бұрын
Amazing video !
@steamtothewest-trecanrail Жыл бұрын
Thanks, It’s a-shame you didn’t come to any of them! Maybe next year…
@davestrains68169 ай бұрын
Wonderful video and thanks for sharing. Dave
@steamtothewest-trecanrail9 ай бұрын
Glad you enjoyed it, Hemerdon always puts on a show
@andysnashall6140 Жыл бұрын
Hate the rumbling cupboard on the back of the A4😢
@steamtothewest-trecanrail Жыл бұрын
Inevitable given the load.
@paulnash7630 Жыл бұрын
With 12 carriages it's not surprising Sir Nigel needed a push after Al he's not a spring chicken anymore 😂
@MyMustang7211 ай бұрын
if the rumbling cupboard was not there the a4 would not have made the climb single handed,stick a king on the front!
@AndrewTeale-cy3dw5 ай бұрын
@@MyMustang72 Kings are too ugly to go on the front, stick em in the back................ of the shed. The A1 has tacken twelve bogies over Hemerdon unaided, no GWR locomotive has ever done that.
@squeaksvids5886 Жыл бұрын
The Class 47 was smoking more than Sir Nigel on the second clip.
@damonrobus-clarke5336 ай бұрын
Thought it was a steamer at first! 😂
@nigelduckworth4419 Жыл бұрын
Perfect videos. Bahamas did much better than Galatea with 9 on. The LNER engines are not climbers and so I expected to see Gresley with a diesel since it had 11 on and not the 9 ( Bahamas 2 excepted) of the others. Scots Guardsman, supposedly an improvement on the Kings, did no better than Bahamas despite the power difference. but was solid. No opinion on Scotsman because it was filmed from a different vantage point, but going well. So the winner must be Bahamas, the least powerful loco, bar 44932 which was in any event helped by the 47. I have some experience of both Jubilees and Royal Scots in steam days and multiple Black 5s, or Mickeys as we called them. A Jubilee on the PInes Express from Bath to Birmingham and a Scot on The Mancunian, Manchester to London. Excellent locos both. I was pulled (and pushed!) up Hemerdon about 4 years ago by Flying Scotsman and a Black 5, the number of which I forget, with a Class 47 at the rear. I swear we were dong 40+ mph all the way up. Not surprising with about 100,000 lbs of tractive effort. My question is for GWR buffs, which I am not. Were the principal trains banked up Hemerdon in steam days?
@steamtothewest-trecanrail Жыл бұрын
I believe GWR locos were banked, but it depended on the load. The passing loop for banking panniers is still there. On a different note, the Flying Scotsman was the most impressive climb of the year. Like Bahamas, Galatea, and Scots Guardsman, it had 9 coaches unassisted. The different vantage point was due to how busy it was, I couldn’t get a spot on the bridge and had to go somewhere else.
@edmundbrain456 Жыл бұрын
Passenger trains were piloted freights were banked as far as I know . A Royal Scot is a Class 7 a King Class 8 so not a fair comparison . Cheers
@Rosie68577 ай бұрын
@@edmundbrain456 You are right about pilots and banking. It's really only tractive effort that counts on a bank like this provided the boiler and firing are good enough to maintain pressure. The tractive effort of a King is easily the highest of any British 4-6-0, ridiculously high some would say, and 20% higher than a rebuilt Royal Scot. A King routinely used to take 11 unassisted up Hemerdon whereas a Scot would probably stall. At speed on easy gradients the difference between the classes is much less - they are both good.
@christopherwilson34424 ай бұрын
@@edmundbrain456The Scots were supposed to be an 'Improved Castle' not my words.
@christopherwilson34424 ай бұрын
@@steamtothewest-trecanrailBest run over that bit of railway was by 6010 King Charles 1. August 1957 for log ,Trains Illustrated. Plymouth to Newton A. time 37-18 distance 31-9 miles, load 300 tons.
@dukeofdevon56087 ай бұрын
How steep is Hemerdon?
@steamtothewest-trecanrail7 ай бұрын
1 in 42 for 2.5 miles, making it the 3rd steepest mainline gradient on the mainland.
@freespeechforever6 ай бұрын
Hardly impressive from Gresly, The diesel was going hard at it!
@steamtothewest-trecanrail6 ай бұрын
I know, it’s unfortunate but with 14 Gresley would never have handled it.
@toast_ee5 ай бұрын
god Galatea sounds biblical!
@philipblick88874 ай бұрын
Way too much background wind racket 🙁
@chriselliott1261 Жыл бұрын
A whole year on the Devon banks, Jubilee, Royal Scot, A3, A4, Black five... Nothing Great Western at all. No complaints on the cinematography (for which thank you so much) but us Western boys seem to be not pulling our weight.
@bobwood856 Жыл бұрын
Agreed. Need to get Clun down there on a tour. See how a GW design copes with a GW bank.
@steamtothewest-trecanrail Жыл бұрын
I agree with you. We’ve had some variety, but nothing GWR or Southern. Fortunately 7029 Clun Castle will visit Plymouth in May 24, and 6024 King Edward I is expected to return in the next 2 years.
@edmundbrain456 Жыл бұрын
GW. Llocos just not available at present Chris ,Could be different next year with 7029