Jewish Genetics and the Lemba Tribe of Africa

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[@saundra1destination623]

My mother and I took a DNA test and discovered we are mixed with Yoruba, Moroccan /North African and Lemba Yehudim. Yet my parents, grandparents, great grandparents and etc grew up on plantations in the United States of America. They were descendants of the Trans-Atlantic and Arab Slave trade. Deuteronomy Chapter 28:68 And the Lord shall bring thee into Egypt again with ships, by the way whereof I spake unto thee, Thou shalt see it no more again: and there ye shall be sold unto your enemies for bondmen and bondwomen, and no man shall buy you. (Rescue or redeem) The truth is the truth no matter how uncomfortable it makes others.

[@rachelsamuel3328]

And when were black Africans brought from Israel to Egypt by ships in Irons. When were black Africans offered for sale and not sold? Every black African alive was sold, fat, skinny, tall, short, ugly, beautiful All were sold! The Yoruba, are Nigerians, the Moroccans/North Africans are Berber/Amazigh amd the Lemba are not Jews. They have been shown to have Arab Muslim DNA from the Arab traders. My dear, you are African, not Israelite or Jewish.

[@nguyenlee7644]

The TRUTH and nothing but it. Amen sister.

[@theosonandras4092]

Yeah, and the first slave ship was named Jesus. Coincidence? I think not.

[@tagbarzeev8283]

Deuteronomy 28:68 has nothing to do with the Trans Atlantic Slave and your parents grew up on a plantation.Lol.

[@theosonandras4092]

@@tagbarzeev8283 ignorant statement.

[@Patrick-Bresnehan]

Well I'm an ashkenazi jew and I grew up believing I'm 100% ashkenazi. However when I did a DNA test it turns out I'm genetically only 57% ashkenazi jewish and 20% germanic and roughly 23% Slavic. So that was quite interesting to know.

[@rachelsamuel3328]

If you can check with other relatives as that is not normal as a DNA result. Perhaps your father that raised you was not your father, or you were adoptedm that result means either one parent was not a Jew, or one set of grandparents were not Jews and a parent was a convert.

[@natlaz1588]

​@@rachelsamuel3328😂😂😂

[@Coco-kw3iv]

@@rachelsamuel3328 all jesish people are converts. Only true bantu/hebrews/Israelites are chosen people of the book...stop fooling yourself. True chosen people are bantus and its bloodlinr of Abraham, Isaac and Yacob blood line not converts...

[@chinamartin5674]

My Dad was a Venda (Lemba) he used to pray in Venda and Say "Tomvho La Israel" which means "Rock of Israel". I never understood why, but it was recent that I had dreams equivalent to The promise of Abraham

[@theosonandras4092]

I am Lemba as well.

[@EsanBeauty]

Genealogy from the father. It's always been that way. Its still like that in Africa now

[@kennethchellers1082]

Absolutely it has always been from the Torah the Hebrew history the seed from the father and the mother of race. If the mother married a different race he is mixed Hebrew, Cush or Greek and etc....

[@edwardcarrier4816]

It is not that way for everyone and never has been. Among most Native Americans descent goes thru the mothers line.

[@fredericabussey8323]

Yes, Sister Esan Beauty, Hebrew (Jewish Biblical Ancestry) has been and is still being determined by one’s father. Akanaz Jews say they are Jewish, but they are not following the biblical or Hebrew way of determining one’s ancestral heritage. For them, so called Jewish heritage is determined by their moms.

[@markivrimusic5610]

I'm so thankful the Lemba stand within their own Identity That god has literally divinely given them by nate.

[@tabethchipomutangadura]

Thank you love am lemba

[@Coco-kw3iv]

Lemba people are from Aaron Abraham's brother. They are black and bantu. Malawians are all Lembas. They have nothing to do with white Jewish Satanists. Period!

[@JoshBenMichael-sp9mr]

The book says the original exiles would be forced into a land with an idolatrous religion and practices. The matrilineal descent method is meant to block the original exiles from returning.

[@SplashIt34]

Show me where in the Torah it says your lineage comes from your mother.

[@mishuoren394]

You'll never find it . We even sing a song called FATHER Abraham

[@nellysonic]

I never get tired of the Chinese😆 food reference lol

[@joymatmamphaga2503]

Hi yes this is true, i am a Lemba from South Africa 🎉

[@lydiafomuso7168]

The simple question in my opinion is this, are they descended from ancient Israelites? It’s less important whether anyone thinks they’re Jewish, matrilineal, patrilineal, practicing or any of those.

[@rachelsamuel3328]

There is absolutely no proof of Any Israelite descent. Their original idea on this was that 7 Israelite men were shipwrecked by the Lrmba and these men married Lemba women. They then adapted some Judaic customs. They never said they came from Israel, they said that 7 Israelite men came to them.

[@GigiPicasso]

@@rachelsamuel3328is that what the Lemba ppl say themselves? There are Lemba here in the comments & they said for Eurasian converts like the presenter to remember they came to them in Africa asking to be taught ancient paleo Hebrew etc . I’ve seen videos of Jewish in Africa speaking to ancient Israelite tribes & asking them “ I know your the ancient Israelites and I’m Jewish (ish as in kind of if u go by definition) but the question is, do you want to be known as ancient Israelites or do you want to be called jews” they answered to him, “who came first the Jew or the ancient Israelite? Who is original? The question is why do u want to be known as US” the Jewish guy laughed and agreed… all these little things that make u think. Then there’s the Igbo tribe that can speak ancient Hebrew never having learned it simply because they still speak it as they’ve always spoken it… yet Jewish ppl can’t do that as modern Hebrew is a reconstructed language and they’ve said they can’t even be sure of the pronunciation. Curious things indeed

[@dieu-donneyouto1044]

​​​ Do you understand patrilineal DNA...To sum up, they descended from Moses brother Aaron. So we can conclude that at last jew that have the cohen blood are at least a remenant of Israel so are the lemba

[@Malichiayah]

They simply don’t fit the prophecies, archeology or history. So, it’s a clear no.

[@evem620]

@@Malichiayah they're DNA + cultural practice already proves it

[@skellagyook]

According to modern archaeological research, Great Zimbabwe was built by indigenous African groups such as the Shona and Venda, not the Lemba. And there is no evidence of Judaic practices in that civization (it's elites practiced indigenous African religions involving animism, totemism and ancestor veneration). Colonial-era Rhodesian writers preferred the theory that the Lemba had built it because it served their racist idea that native Africans were incapable of creating civilizations without outside influences.

[@skellagyook]

@@kingdavid7573 I'm afraid that has nothing to do with the substance of my comment. (But unrelated to my comment, genetic evidence actually shows that Ashkenazi Jews are mostly of mixed Middle Eastern and European descent, like the Sephardim, with very little if any Khazar ancestry.)

[@moraemepasikhani9153]

I appreciate this discussion.

[@HenryAbramsonPhD]

Thank you!

[@malijaqueline7625]

Thank you for this video, sir!

[@HenryAbramsonPhD]

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[@WorldNewsandComment]

Great podcast!

[@HenryAbramsonPhD]

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[@josephonwhidbey]

I'd like to know how far back they go associated with some of their diet being kosher.

[@gward117]

“They came from white men”. How is that possible since European travel was very limited at the times of their travels. Maybe someone interpreted what they said wrongly.

[@rachelsamuel3328]

One of their 4 different tribal creation stories is that 7 Israelite/Jewish men shipwrecked near to the Lemba, and married the Lemba women. To them the Caucasoid Israelites were white men. They taught the women about their culture and the Lemba then adapted some Judaic practice, the problem is there is 4 different Creation stories and their DNA is Arab, not Israelite/Jewish.

[@tabethchipomutangadura]

In Africa, among less educated ones any one who is not ambiguously Black is a white

[@markstigger6729]

Joseph sons are Israelites according to the holy scriptures, although they descended from a Egyptian mother.... That would be their father lineage instead of the mother's lineage... You stated it had to be the mother's lineage.... Some of the 12 tribe had gentile mothers.

[@MBEG89]

He addressed this point in the video, that at some point it was from the fathers side and then changed to mothers side.

[@CarollemMen-cl8nz]

The bloodline comes from the father.

[@kedishawalkercooper7377]

​@MBEG89 well who change it ,cause last time I check it goes by what God said not man,and God goes by the father,cause the main women that created the Jewish nation Tamar was not from Jacob lineage

[@CarollemMen-cl8nz]

The seed is of the man. Without the seed no creation.

[@YaAqob27]

​ @MBEG89 it was not changed by The Most High, it was changed by rabbinical leaders. The doctrine of men

[@JasonPengo]

Could "Sena" be a "Sinai"?

[@RobinHerzig]

or Sanaa in Yemen?

[@HenryAbramsonPhD]

Hmm

[@believemens7672]

​@@HenryAbramsonPhD "Sena" is an Ewe (Ervh) word which means God has given/provided or Destiny has provided. This is a language believed to be ancient Hebrew of the people of the ancient Land of Judah/Whudah (also known as the Slave Coast) now covering the Volta Region of Ghana, Togo, Benin and the western part of Nigeria. I guess some research needs to be done in relation to these people, their culture and language. Most of their words lend themselves to biblical meanings without any struggle. For instance, "manna" means "I will provide".

[@hiswillbedone642]

@@believemens7672that is great information thank you for sharing and more I understand the term manna from heaven even more so.

[@gildog]

Black Hebrew theory ?

[@graceziqver2350]

Is one of the DNA tests that you bye on internet enough to clear if you have jewish origin? Or how do you do to knowe. My mother never whanted to speak about hre jewisnes. She came from those family caled anusim/anushim. I did a DNA test but I had no askenasi or sefardic gen. But semitic only 4 or 5 %. Is there another test? Thankyou yo explain it verry well.

[@user-jr4kc6lu9q]

Swedish non-Jews almost never have distant cryptic Jewish ancestry so I'm not surprised you didn't score in those categories. And if it happens to be the case that you don't have numerous Jewish cousin DNA matches either, you definitely don't have Jewish genetic ancestors.

[@graceziqver2350]

@@user-jr4kc6lu9q well my mothers fatherand and mother where from europe and they came to Brazil. My mother had this kind of jewish mixed katholic bagground . But she never whanted to talk about it.

[@sridhardevadas2131]

Very useful and clear lecture even a person with less knowledge can easily understand the genetic basics. All your lectures are excellent and very much intellectual.

[@HenryAbramsonPhD]

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[@JustShawnie]

Very useful information you claim? I am Lemba and our people never once claim to come from white European Jews.This man made a lot of false statements in this video in regards to my people, we know who we are and we don’t need the approval of European converts who are the sons of Yapheth, son Ashkenaz that is not in the family tree of my forefathers Abraham, Yitzhak, and Ya’aqov to tell us who we are. Remember your people come to Hebrews in Africa to learn ancient Hebrew (Paleo Hebrew) and also to learn about YAH and the Temple.

[@paddymcdoogle4025]

@@HenryAbramsonPhDpublic subscriber lol

[@paddymcdoogle4025]

@@JustShawniewhat the actual fk are you talking about

[@tagbarzeev8283]

@@JustShawnie Comedy Gold 🤣 😂 😆

[@jeremielendo1131]

In Madagascar also you find a large Jewish community

[@mcfact1827]

How do they look?

[@bimbobabalola]

As brilliant as always.

[@donelmore2540]

I have seen sometime ago a video on Middle Eastern trading colonies down the east coast of Africa. Don’t remember who the presenter was or all the details, but this video rings very similar bells in my memory.

[@jeremielendo1131]

There are lot of physical similarities between several persons in the southwestern of the DRCongo and secular Jews.

[@gedenironald8635]

No tribe in ancient Africa was ever called "Bantu" that is a European invention. I however agree with him on almost everything he said accept the "Bantu" labelling. Lemba are Jews and that is based on scientific evidence, racism and it's roots Zionism and Nazism. Lastly, Great Zimbabwe was built by the Shona tribe not Lemba. I am Lemba myself, just like many, we do not need approval from Europeans who claim being Jews and forcefully migrate to Israel.

[@rachelsamuel3328]

There is no scientific evidence of the Lemba being Jews, The Study in the South African Medical Journal as well as the Extended CMH. The Lemba do not show any Cohen genes. The South African Medical Journal 2013 in their study titled, *_Lemba origins revisited: tracing the ancestry of Y chromosomes in the South African and Zimbabwean Lemba_* stated; *While it was not possible to trace unequivocally the origins of the non-African Y chromosomes in the Lemba and Remba, this study does not support the earlier claims of their Jewish genetic heritage*

[@Shade_223]

Thank you this nonsense saying white people in the Middle East survived under the sun then moved to the wilderness South Africa I think they’re now claiming it because lions originated in South Africa but is a biblical symbol

[@tagbarzeev8283]

Review the 2013 study by the South African medical Journal Lemba origins revisited.

[@kabelomapoko8204]

We literally built the walls, not ruled or established it we worked as tradesman like our fathers still do

[@hiswillbedone642]

Exactly for some reason they think we need their permission to be who we have always been.

[@robertomorales2308]

Very interesting genetic study.Greetings from Puerto Rico.

[@Steele44320]

How does one link Judaism (Jewish diaspora) through DNA? What are your tracers used for this?

[@Malichiayah]

They just tested themselves against themselves.

[@malawidouglas6464]

@@Malichiayahnonsense. They are compared with their cousins (descendants of Ishmael). They are genetically close to others from the Middle East. But if you check your bible you will see that that was already known.

[@Malichiayah]

@@malawidouglas6464 I’m afraid, history, archeology, biology and most importantly the prophecies in the Torah contradict you.

[@malawidouglas6464]

@@Malichiayah there are plenty of genetic studies that measure the closeness or distance between one population and another. What they show us is that the Jews are close to those of their neighbours in Israel. Now that you know that I suggest you try to explain that to people who hate Jews and who tell lies about Jews. You will find that many of them don’t believe you. This is because when people decide to hate another group, evidence won’t change their views.

[@lydiafomuso7168]

Why is it surprising that they have a high incidence of the haplotide of interest? They’ve said for many years that they are descendants.

[@rachelsamuel3328]

There is no such thing as a haplotide. And the Lemba never claimed to be istaelites until after Israel brought the Ethiopians to Israel and then a bunch of African tribes claimed to be Israel. The Lemba have 4 creation stories, they had No idea where they came from. They knew the place as Sena One. If you read the interviews from the 1970s and 1980s, they have rewritten their whole narrative.

[@lusionfx2219]

@@rachelsamuel3328 Do you have a problem with black people being jews?

[@tstyleartistry]

It's not surprising. He just has to try his best to maintain the charade.

[@appleo7168]

@@tstyleartistryor maybe millions of black people from third world countries want an easy access to a modern country

[@mmccbb7mcb278]

Fascinating topic. I think one key to their background would be archeological evidence of Chinese takeaways, that may be found wherever their journeys have taken them, including to their present home. As a ‘white European Jew’, and a great lover of Asian food; I can say without hesitation that is an absolute decider in the identification process.

[@natlaz1588]

What a load of bs

[@theinquiringminded6952]

Super interesting!

[@HenryAbramsonPhD]

Thank you!

[@regeshnetwork9424]

3:54 - love that u posted my fathers picture in the Chinese Restaurant . Been seeing it a lot lately

[@MkingJaCari]

🤔 interesting - thank you!!!!!!

[@martinc9215]

Great video. Very interesting ❤

[@HenryAbramsonPhD]

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[@Rebbedude]

Fascinating indeed!

[@HenryAbramsonPhD]

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[@thomaszaccone3960]

Awesome. Using contemporart human genetics to trace movement of people in the remote past has always fascinated me. Wonder if this was done on the genomes of Ethiopian Jews? Thank you.

[@rachelsamuel3328]

The EthiopIan Jews show no Levantine DNA. They match the Ethiopian non-Jews for their DNA, Most think thst the Ethiopian Jews were early Christian converts that had Judaic customs. The Lemba have no Jewish or Israelite DNA. This stust was replaced as too many people that should have been negative showed positive. The new Extended CMH 95% of Cohens show positive and very few "others"

[@thomaszaccone3960]

@@rachelsamuel3328 What is " "stust"?

[@user-jr4kc6lu9q]

Ethiopian Jews are genetically identical to Ethiopian Christians.

[@PLawton2900]

Yes. Like 5.6% of them have the dna.

[@nathanbeard513]

I find it interesting that the Lemba seem to have a tradition of female conversion. This seems to be consistent with the Biblical tradition of belonging to the Nation of Israel. A good example would be that of Ruth or Rahab both of whom are ancestors of David. So, it seems like there needs to be a decision made on the validity of the ancient conversions of these women in order to determine whether or not these “Jewish” claims could be validated. It only seems consistent. I seem to recollect that a good number of people with Ashkenazi ancestry have mitochondrial DNA from the Italian peninsula. So, wouldn’t their claims be just as valid as the Lemba claims? I am asking this sincerely. I do not have an agenda.

[@user-jr4kc6lu9q]

Only a minority of Ashkenazic mitochondrial DNA lineages come from Italy, actually. Naffi wrote to Anthrogenica "So i went over the book [The Maternal Genetic Lineages of Ashkenazic Jews by Kevin Alan Brook] and here is the origin of the mtdnas in the book according to the author 26.19% Broadly Western Eurasian 24.00% Middle Eastern [= Israelite and Persian] 12.86% Broadly European 9.32% Slavic/Polish 8.2% Greco-Italian 7.14% German/Northwestern Europe 5.0% Central or Eastern European 2.53% North African 2.52% Iberian/Southern France 1.35% Eastern European or Khazarian 0.56% Khazar 0.35% East Asian" ..... So in fact Ashkenazim have some Middle Eastern mtDNA which can credibly be connected to the Levant...... The Lemba don't belong to any SPECIFIC paternal or maternal lineages that Jews belong to, because they are not actually descended from the Israelites at all.

[@mcmc1103]

A good number are mixed race Blacks from Russia and Europe.

[@tabethchipomutangadura]

Thank you

[@joshuajohnson3296]

Since the Lemba men have been shown to have the Cohen Modal Haplotype, they preserve the lineage of the ancient priests of Israel. You mentioned that there was a time in Israelite history when patrilineal lineage was upheld; and the rabbanites requires matrilineal only. Therefore, it seems likely that the Lemba men departed Israel at a time when Israelite identity was imparted father-to-son and preserved that tradition. Otherwise, they would have maintained matrilineal descent and married only Israelite women. In light of the genetic evidence, and their spiritual practices and history, it is clear they are Israelites. Therefore, cannot the rabbinate of Israel make an exception for them in view of the fact the they represented an earlier stage of Israelite history? They accepted the Ethiopians and the Ethiopians hadn't even heard of Hanukkah or the Book of Esther (another Israelite group preserving an ancient stratum of history).

[@HenryAbramsonPhD]

It’s not only about genetics.

[@elmiawad1777]

The Greeks described southern Arabians as trading and mixing with the natives in South East Africa. The fact the Lemba mention Sana also indicates a South Arabian Jewish origin. Probably traders or Rabbis who fled due to turmoil in ancient Yemen.

[@abrahamjackson6019]

The Lemba has no desire to go to Israel...

[@Luckyhotsummer]

Excellent cheerful delightful !

[@jessereichbach588]

Just a quick correction, the CMH that over 50% of Cohen have is just Y haplogroup J. Y haplo J originated around 40,000 years ago in Caucasus/Armenian highlands, not 3,000. J is also the most common Y haplo in the middle east in general, meaning, not only are most Cohen, J, but most Yehudim and most middle eastern men. Now, the Cohen who have J are broken up into two major subgroups, J1 and J2, and each of those subgroups are broken up into multiple subgroups. J1 and J2, which DO both derive from J, diverged from one another like 35k years ago or something along those lines. This makes it IMPOSSIBLE for the majority of Cohen to be descended of Aaron or even Levi. As Aaron and Levi would have had the same Y haplo. And we know modern Levites have drastically different proportions. None the less, the CMH was further narrowed down later, and about 25% of modern Cohen DO share a common ancestor around 3,000 years ago, one of the J2 subgroups. So MAYBE this subgroup of J2 are descended of Aaron. However that is not necessarily the only way to arrive at these proportions. They could have simply outproduced the other Cohen, or Cohen might not have started out as the actual sons of Aaron. But either way, its only about 25% of Cohen of a specific subclade of J2, who share a common male ancestral line from around 3,000 years ago. Otherwise, spot on, good work as always.

[@arimandel5472]

But do they eat gefilte fish?

[@YahLion77]

😆

[@HenryAbramsonPhD]

As often as possible, I'm sure.

[@job5831]

Yes, those known today as Jewish people use the matrilineal line. However, the original and true Hebrews or Israelites have always used the patrilineal line. This can be seen from the only physical authority that matters: The Bible. Edit: Also, the switch was not made in antiquity but is a modern switch. Thanks!

[@rachelsamuel3328]

Show where in the Torah?

[@backedphone]

​@@rachelsamuel3328 Everywhere! From Isaac, Jacob, Joseph, Jesus, Shem, Noah, to David! Abraham had a covenant with God which extended down through lineage his seed would become the Kingdom Israel separated into 12 different tribes (depending on your father).

[@rachelsamuel3328]

@@backedphone Really. Not true! as the children of Jewish fathers were abandoned in Ezra because they came from Gentile wives.

[@backedphone]

@@rachelsamuel3328 Ezra and even more Nehemiah acted outside the law. After the exile he feared intermarrying foreign women who still idolized pagan gods (which was proven so) FURTHERMORE, YOU ARE WRONG BECAUSE HOW ELSE YOU EXPLAIN RAHAB AND RUTH? Rahab and Ruth Canaanite and Moabite women who not only married into the people of Israel, but became ancestors of David and Jesus!

[@rachelsamuel3328]

@@backedphone Rahab and Ruth both accepted God and the Torah. They became Jews. There were always people who joined the Israelite people.

[@user-ls8mo6xq8t]

God of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob. Patrilineal.

[@mattnewhouse1781]

Im surprised a chinese restaurant hasnt sponsored your videos by now 🤣 thank you for the awesome history lessons

[@HenryAbramsonPhD]

Maybe one day!

[@thomasranjit7781]

@@HenryAbramsonPhD if you are interested in learning more about the Jewish people then you must visit the state of Kerala in India, on internet you can search about this state, Jews settled there since the time of king Solomon, there was a Jewish king in some place in Kerala state, after St Thomas came to India after the resurrection of Lord Jesus Christ many Jews became Christians, even if you don't believe in Christ, for the sake of learning about Jewish history, please do research on these people in Kerala state, among the Syrian Christians in Kerala state they still use Syriac language in their Church service, we still celebrate passover just as the Jews celebrate in Israel. There are some Jewish synogouge still in Kerala state, there is a street called Jewish street still in Kerala state. The Jews were never persecuted in Kerala state.

[@francismusali676]

Well, china food nonsense is just propaganda that intends to portray Chinese as cannibals

[@liono1983]

Which Jewish group has the highest frequency of the Priesthood gene/Kohen Modal[sic] Y-Chromosome?

[@livinsetapart7432]

But you didn’t provide any genetic information, DNA markers or Y-Haplogroups.. I guess we’re just supposed to take your word for it 🤷🏾‍♂️

[@trevisfreeman9064]

You don’t do bloodline cause you have no bloodline to ancient Hebrew like the lemba tribe

[@jessereichbach588]

Um no, Yehudi DO have genetic ancestry going back to ancient Hebrew. There is no bloodline because blood isnt dna.

[@louism.conteh3262]

This is fascinating! My tribe is spelled as "Limba", representing a significant and influential tribe in Sierra Leone! So, is it the spelling that makes the difference???? Wow!

[@HenryAbramsonPhD]

Glad you found it interesting

[@thecyberagora2761]

The second Sena is in all likelihood in Kenya, a place called MuSena in Kakamega

[@nkosinathimulungwa302]

Im Lemba born and raised in South Africa.

[@misswogdaily2344]

And do you all believe that you descend from white man the way this man just stated?😂😂

[@TheStimie]

​@@misswogdaily2344 the question I want answered.

[@JD_Orka]

We are Genetically Hebrew and Israel by family, not genetically Jewish, or any other label you prefer to designate us.. Many of my people allowed you to convert them to your label, but the time comes.

[@rachelsamuel3328]

Except of you are Lemba genetically you have no ties to Hebrews or Israel.

[@evem620]

@@rachelsamuel3328 😂

[@amancalledhawk5575]

I watched a show about this on the history channel

[@Marco_lex]

Well Dr Genetics seem to confirm more so then deny that there claims have validity , in terms of the father's....would that also be mean same for those who claim isrealite???

[@rachelsamuel3328]

Actually, genetics show they have no ties to Israel,

[@filosofastone1442]

We are not descendants of white people, the word is Murungu (from Lungu beads) which was used to refer merchants, wealthy person, lords or foreigners. the same name was given to the white men hence the confusion

[@rachelsamuel3328]

The Lemba have as one of their creation stories that 7 Israelite/Jewish men shipwrecked near the Lemba and married the black African woman and adopted Judaic customs from this. That means that the Lemba come from the Israelites. The Lemba did not come from Israel.

[@SionTJobbins]

I certainly found it facinating. Would love to know the whole story of how the Lemba came about, we'll probably never know, but to think of that journey from Canaan/Egypt/Arabia all the way to southern Africa. The only small point I'd make is it'd be interesting to know which Bantu language they speak - Zulu (or Ndebele - essentially the same language) or another. Bantu is like saying 'Romance' or Slavic language I believe. But so interesting. Genetics is such an interesting and important addition to written sources and archeology. it's like human archeology.

[@user-jr4kc6lu9q]

I have a genetic analogy for you based on what you wrote about linguistics. The Cohen Modal Haplotype of 1997 which was based on only 6 markers is analogous to a broad language family like Romance or Slavic or Semitic. By contrast, the Extended Cohen Modal Haplotype with 12 or more markers is more specific and tells us more, such as whether somebody could be tribally Israelite or not. The Lemba fail to belong to the extended haplotype, only the simple incomplete haplotype, and therefore fail to belong to a specific Israelite group, but do partially match Arabians.

[@ditocerto]

The Northern and Southern Ndebele languages both fall in the Nguni group of Bantu languages. Northern Ndebele is essentially a dialect of Zulu, and the older Southern Ndebele language falls within a different subgroup.

[@SionTJobbins]

@@ditocerto thanks, would love tere to be one standard Nguni language (like there is one standard Arabic, but with different countries speaking their own Arabic - probably bigger differences between Moroccan Arabic and Iraqi or Levantie Arabic than there is between Ndebeke, Sotho, Xhosa, Swati and Zulu). A unified written Nguni language would be a very powerful language and could not be ignored as having smaller different 'languages/dialects' are.

[@lusionfx2219]

They speak Venda not Zulu

[@kairuannewambui8456]

​​@@user-jr4kc6lu9q yeap, 😅😅..indeed, we know what you did there, Fabrication of everything didn't start today, again history has been biased from anyone who thought of its benefits, and poeple behaviour did not change either, continuing to be bot consuming wrong information, although the truth is in plain sight. Or the have blinded bias side. Lemba poeple are who they are authentic poeple of bible, we may never know,but biasing them is wrong. Goodluck, mirror mirror on the wall, who is prettiest in Kingdom of earth. 😅

[@terryhemingway6983]

I am non Jewish who recently began watching your videos. It is truly fascinating, easy to follow, and eye-opening. This was the first video that I have seen that allowed comments, so I wanted to use the opportunity to say thank you.

[@anitawallace265]

???? The Jews left The Holy Land Black and Returned White.?

[@HenryAbramsonPhD]

Thank you! I am glad that you find the videos meaningful and interesting!

[@rachelsamuel3328]

​@@anitawallace265And who do you think said that?

[@Lllmmlammm-eh6uc]

Tribeless jew here, could you do a video on what it means for a jew to be tribeless or a gentile to be tribe affiliated?

[@rachelsamuel3328]

No Jew knows which tribe they belonged to except the Levites and the Cohanim of the Levites,

[@rachelsamuel3328]

Please read how the Cohen study was started. The article *_The Chain of Tradition, the Discovery of the "Cohen Gene"_* by Rabbi Yaakov Kleinman

[@mcfact1827]

This is not new. There are various Hebrew groups in Africa. They have been there for hundreds of years. Old maps show Hebrew presence in Africa

[@rachelsamuel3328]

How does a map show people's ancestry?

[@mcfact1827]

@@rachelsamuel3328 this will give you a start look up *The Kingdom of Judah in West Africa*

[@rachelsamuel3328]

@@mcfact1827 Look up the name of The Hebrew Kingdom or tribe, they never heard of "Juda". The tribe and kingdom was YEHUDAH. See the video by Home Team History titled, *_A History of Black Hebrews in Africa: The Evidence_* at minute 8:50.

[@kennethbrownsher1264]

@@mcfact1827 the jews of the area MIGRATED THERE.

[@saundra1destination623]

True.

[@mcfact1827]

@2:54.... I'd like to see sources on this.

[@jaisonjay6527]

Exactly

[@Malichiayah]

You won’t get any! 😂

[@mcfact1827]

​​@@Malichiayah LOL...he said they came from whytes.

[@txtornado3880]

They DO NOT say they are descendants of a white man! They say they are a descendant of Dan, one of the 12 tribes of Egypt. You added the white description. 50% of Lemba male priests have the Cohanim modal haplotype. This haplotype is supposedly the marker of the Aaronic priesthood.

[@HenryAbramsonPhD]

Interesting

[@skwarubwa7083]

A cogent presentation, Henry, in which you gave an easy-to-understand, but valid, review of Jewish ancestry and descent. You stated that bloodlines do not matter in determining Jewish identity, and that is true, but there is one exception, and that is the concept of זרע ישראל. This applies when a gentile with proven Jewish ancestry asks to be converted to Judaism. Such a person generally is more readily accepted as a candidate for conversion than a gentile of entirely gentile ancestry (although the Jewish ancestry does not necessarily guarantee a successful conversion).

[@_ThatOneServant]

Question who took Aarons DNA 4000 years ago to make the connection with those people today to determine they were indeed priest????

[@rachelsamuel3328]

If you actually read the studies or the history of how DNA studies work, they took Ashkenazi and Seohardi Jews that self-Identified as Cohanim and tested them for gene sequences. 95% of those tested showed the same genes, meaning they came from a common ancestor 2,000 to 3,000 years ago. The Jews lived previously in Morocco, Brasil, the US, Poland, Iraq etc., but all had a common ancestor, The probability of that happening with unrelated individuals does not exist.

[@Shemayahu222]

What does the white gene mean ? Or did I hear that right?

[@spicydoodlesoup]

I love that many of the commenters also make a lot of Chinese food jokes.

[@kairosquerencia4011]

Would love to here your views on the people from the Celtic Nations/Keltoi having Jewish roots. Thought to have been scattered in Biblical times, travelled by sea to Iberia and overland ending up in Austria, then establishing themselves throughout Europe and Galatia.

[@rachelsamuel3328]

British Israelism is as off as Black Hebrew Israelism.

[@kairosquerencia4011]

@@rachelsamuel3328 Are they antiSemitic like the Black Hebrew Isrealites? Do they believe in replacement theology or only that they're one of the tribes of Israel?

[@rachelsamuel3328]

@@kairosquerencia4011 Not as much as the BHI. Although one online was really nasty and called the real Jews with awful names.

[@kairosquerencia4011]

@@rachelsamuel3328 Anyone who is abusing Jews does not know Gods word or have a relationship with him. Sounds like they believe in Replacement Theology.

[@southbug27]

@@kairosquerencia4011 Exactly. I’m a Protestant Christian, but have always been disgusted by other Protestants who disrespect Jews & Catholics & claim they’re not God’s people, don’t follow the Bible/Tenakh, & that Catholics aren’t Christians. 😳😳😳

[@marcuscameron800]

As soon as you said that they descended from a white man I’m wondering how is that possible?

[@rachelsamuel3328]

One of the creation stories is that 7 Israelite men shipwrecked and married Lemba women. Therefore they did not come from Israel , some Israel got lost in Africa, they might have ancient Israelite ancestors. That does not make them Israelites or Jews.

[@SP21694]

Some very strong comments of hatred towards the Lemba on here. I would be very careful about labeling, judging, and denying people of their heritage. G-d is the creator of all people. I am a mixture of a few Jewish groups being Sephardic, Ashkenazi, Lemba, and some Ethiopian Jew. Even so, I believe people that feel a need to label others as this or that need to reflect on the fact that no one human being is 100 % anything.

[@Coco-kw3iv]

Im 💯 bantu. Lemba people are bantu and they have nothing to do with white Jewish people. Full stop!

[@mandlenkosingcukayithobi3574]

Good day Sir. Kindly note the is no such African tribe called Bantu that term was coined by Europeans and according to the Lemba people they have never claimed to come from 'white men' as you put it.

[@HenryAbramsonPhD]

Thanks for the comment.

[@hilaryzhou1803]

Interesting am 100% lemba

[@RobinHerzig]

Oy Vey Iz Mir! You're not a Jew I'm a real Jew! Oh yeah? No you're not. Yes I am. No you. No me! How dare you! Why I oughta… boom!

[@stlouisix3]

Interesting

[@KenniGambo-divineencounters]

Anybody can enlighten us of the link of the Karanga people to the Lembas and if any of their clans like the Gumbo clan are connected to the Lemba in any way. Whilst visiting Chinyika village along the Nyazvidzi River some time back, I saw very Hebrewish tendencies.

[@MitzvosGolem1]

Except Judaism is not a race or DNA skin color. Some of the greatest rabbi s Jews were converts or came from Converts. King David, Akiva, Meir, Onkelos, Hillel and Shammai rebbe's.. תודה רבה שלום

[@rachelsamuel3328]

King David was not a convert. Please stop!

[@MitzvosGolem1]

@@rachelsamuel3328 King David's great grandmother was Ruth a convert.. Kindly study Torah . תודה רבה שלום

[@rachelsamuel3328]

@@MitzvosGolem1 I know that that does NOT make him a convert. The moment a person becomea a Jew they are a Jew Boaz married Ruth and they had a son Obed, Obed had a son, Jesse, and Jesse was the father of David Ruth was his great grandmother.

[@MitzvosGolem1]

@@rachelsamuel3328 Read my original comment. I said " convert s or from Converts". In fact King David was criticized by others for coming from gair converts in Tanakh. Talmud Mishna has long discussions on this . Kindly study more. . 😀

[@rachelsamuel3328]

@@MitzvosGolem1 Ok. Missed that. Ruth was known as the first convert, but the Israelites (sons of Jacob) married 3 Canaanites, 2 Arameans, 1 Egyptian. 3 Mesopatamians and 2 Ishmaelites. Moses married a Cushite then a Midionite. Joseph married an Egyptian, Samson married a Phillistine and Boaz married a Moabite. The Israelites rarely married Israelite women,

[@dennisvazquez2140]

So the Lemba aren't that much different than Ashkenazi Jews (and possibly Eastern European and Russian Jews too). Research has shown that possibly most Ashkenazi Jews have mitochondrial DNA that matches European and gentile mitochondrial DNA whereas the Ashkenazi men's y-chromosome DNA distribution closely matches that of Mizrahi men. Supposedly mine and my mother's mitochondrial DNA comes directly from Moses' daughter and one of my father's male ancestors was a Maccabee son and yet because I have a clearly Latin/Hispanic last name I get a lot of pushback from Ashkenazi/Eastern European/Russian Jews as to whether I am part Jewish or not. Really what right do Ashkenazi Jews have of saying who is actually Jewish and who is not when clearly most of them are descended from gentile women (the supposed matrilineal descent of Jews therefore does not exist). My guess is that the Orthodox people in Israel who decide who is Jewish and who is not probably in most cases have gentile mitochondrial DNA and cannot prove that the woman responsible for their gentile mitochondrial DNA went through an officially approved Orthodox conversion. It is a total and complete hypocrisy. Maybe love of God and Judaism and the Torah and the good Jewish people should be the only determinant of who is actually Hebrew and who isn't? Also, 60 Minutes did a report about the Lemba Jews many years ago. Maybe Goldstein got the idea for his research from the 60 Minutes show?

[@rachelsamuel3328]

No, as the Ashkenazi Jews have a full 42% that come from just 4 Jewish women and they have been Jews for 3500 years The Lemba have not been shown to have Jewish or Israelite DNA, their DNA has been tied to the Arab slave trade.

[@rachelsamuel3328]

Your comment is totally wrong as 42% of Ashkenazi Jews mitochondrial DNA is from just 4 Jewish women The other DNA is not from Gentiles or converts but from First century Greco-Roman DNA, the Jews in Europe were endogamous and insularm there was less than half a percent of converts among them per generation by DNA testing.

[@rachelsamuel3328]

Moses never had a daughter and they have no idea what DNA Moses ever had, and the Maccabees have never been DNA sequenced. Do you know what a bubbe maiseh is ?

[@rachelsamuel3328]

Again, No Ashkenazi Jews are Not descended from Gentile women. Your comprehension of DNA and history is wrong. The Ashkenazi Jews have only married other Jews for millennia. They have No Gentile women that they descend from. Their Families have only married Jews for over 2000 years, Having a Spanish name is not unusual for Jews. The Sephardi Jews took on Spanish names and last names are only from the 1700s or so. Before that you were known by your father's name of your profession, Solomon ben Dovid, or Solomon Melach.

[@rachelsamuel3328]

What are you talking about, the only reason that 60 Minutes did the program was because of the original DNA study that connected them to the Jews.

[@PLawton2900]

Im a so-called African American from Missouri, and Bantu. The Muslims, from Africa, I have met, identify as children of abraham, and mention the prophet Musa (Moses), who freed them from Egypt. I have had the conversation with nearly a dozen of them here in my city.

[@HenryAbramsonPhD]

Interesting

[@SoFrolushes]

So the connection is there. I think God recognises them. As many converts and those who are born into it are co-equals under God However that DNA being so high is interesting and fascinating regarding people migration and how much communities can retain of their history.

[@rachelsamuel3328]

The Lemba have no Jewish or Israelite DNA. The Lemba do not have the Cohen Markers, they have a similar Arab DNA pattern. There were 5 studies done on Cohen genetics. The original CMH (Cohen Modal Haplotype) was tested in 1996 and 2000 when DNA testing was in its infancy. Dr. Karl Skorecki tested Ashkenazi and Sephardi Jews that self identified as Cohanim. From these "White" Jews they found 6 gene sequences that most had, they labeled this as the CMH. The problem was that the control group, which was mostly Levantine Arabs that had no ties to the Jews, let alone to the Israelite High Priests, *Over 30% showed positive for these 6 gene sequences,* If this was truly a test of Cohen genetics, these Arabs should have shown negative. In later testing they tightened the parameters of the DNA testing and they used more gene sequences to create *The Extended CMH* this had many more gene sequences chosen. When the Arabs and Lemba were tested against the Extended CMH. Neither the Arabs, nor the Lemba had these genes, while 95% of the Real Cohen Jews showed positive. The Study in the South African Medical Journal as well as the Extended CMH, *the Lemba do not show any Cohen genes.* *_The South African Medical Journal,_** 2013 in their study titled, ***_Lemba origins revisited: tracing the ancestry of Y chromosomes in the South African and Zimbabwean Lemba_* stated; *While it was not possible to trace unequivocally the origins of the non-African Y chromosomes in the Lemba and Remba, this study does not support the earlier claims of their Jewish genetic heritage*

[@Coco-kw3iv]

ONLY BLACK BANTU PEOPLE ARE CHOSEN ONES. NOT ANY OTHER PEOPLE. LEMBA PEOPLE ARE BANTUS by the way...don't be deceived ...

[@appleo7168]

@@Coco-kw3ivlol this is why you guys a joke

[@Jonny501]

@@appleo7168he dosent speak for all of us black ppl I’m sorry on his behalf

[@rachelsamuel3328]

They did not show positive for the Extended CMH that used twice the amount of gene sequences either. *_Extended Y chromosome haplotypes resolve multiple and unique lineages of the Jewish priesthood_* 2009. _Human Genetics_

[@RobinHerzig]

Appreciate your input. Just trying to understand the latest scientific + scholarly research. For me it's all a fascinating journey. As science + archeological/anthropologic study continues I imagine we'll continue to find more to include + discard throughout the work. Anyway thanx

[@rachelsamuel3328]

The Study in the South African Medical Journal as well as the Extended CMH. The Lemba do not show any Cohen genes. The South African Medical Journal 2013 in their study titled, *_Lemba origins revisited: tracing the ancestry of Y chromosomes in the South African and Zimbabwean Lemba_* stated; *While it was not possible to trace unequivocally the origins of the non-African Y chromosomes in the Lemba and Remba, this study does not support the earlier claims of their Jewish genetic heritage*

[@7.2]

I think we have to respect their Old Jewish Heritage. Nothing in this life is black and white. As Jews, genetically, we are a mixture of whatever our forefathers were (Mesopotamian, arameans...and yes Canaanites), more recently even some European lineages depending on which community one comes from.

[@bb1111116]

In looking at recent studies, specific Jewish genetic heritage going back thousands of years seems to not be possible. However, a genetic heritage from broader areas of the Arabian peninsula to nearby regions seems to be possible. The more recent Y chromosome research seems to make that broader connection with certain Lemba males.

[@rachelsamuel3328]

@@bb1111116 The latest DNA studies found that the Lemba likely have Arab Muslim DNA, not any Jewish DNA.

[@bb1111116]

@@rachelsamuel3328 ; Arabs and Israelites originally came from the same area. They were neighbors in trade and Jewish communities were established in Arabia in ancient times.

[@rachelsamuel3328]

@@bb1111116 Nope, the Arabs come from Arabia, the Jews from the Levant.

[@AdoptedCats]

Instead, E1b1b in both Christian Ethiopians and Jewish Ethiopians. How can you defines the difference between E1b1b Jewish or Non-Jewish Populations ? Thank you.

[@Biblical_DNA]

Ethiopians carry a few different paternal Haplogroups. Not just E1b1b. Ethiopian Jews even carry haplogroup A-M13.

[@rachelsamuel3328]

Ethipian Jews carry the same DNA as Ethiopian non-Jews.

[@AdoptedCats]

@@rachelsamuel3328 E1b1b is both Ethiopian Christian Orthodox Populations and Jews, also with Somali and North Africans and East African Populations. E1b1a is West African Bantu Populations and mostly Nigeria’s Igbo populations. It is called E1b. Egyptian Hamitic Canaanites E1b1. Populations in Africa. Even thought, original Philistines and Canaanites Populations described comes from this lineage before mixing into Arab Populations.

[@rachelsamuel3328]

@@AdoptedCats No. The Phillistine were Greek bronze age people, and the Canaanites Levantine with J2 as their haplogroup.

[@AdoptedCats]

@@rachelsamuel3328 They came from Crete, but their seed is Hamitic and their roots going back to the one of the Canaanites, in my opinion, they are part of Canaanites.

[@briantaylor1813]

Abraham, Isaac and Jacob (Israel) Any more questions ?

[@hilaryzhou1803]

Thank you very much for this interesting presentation being an observant Lemba Jew and having done a DNA test myself i think our oral history is continually being cemented. What really concerns the Lemba is being able to reunited with and practice FREELY the religion of our forefathers. We want to Africa because our forefathers first traded with Africa during the Yemenite exile and have always been traders in gold, silver, cloth, ivory, etc, masons, blacksmiths tradesmen etc NB. WE NEVER AND WILL NEVER EAT MICE 😜😁

[@raymondnkamugisha8887]

Just wanted to know, are the Lemba people related or close to the Venda people. If I could get an answer to this.

[@dukemasengana3388]

@@raymondnkamugisha8887 could be. I am Venda speaking born and bred in Venda, but when I grew up from the early age, it was instilled in me to take pride of my Jewish ties. I am Buba, Motswana Malaka, wa ha Malinda lutanga vha tshiri ndi mavhele. By the way, Buba iclan is the highest tribe in rank among the Lembas. Mushavhi (merchant priest) who doesn't take pork. There are several rituals I have to observe for fear of defilement through contact and consumption. While most of the major Lemba surnames are prominent around Vhavenda, they are not only confined there. You still find these surnames in different tribes and nationalities. E.g, Thovhakale, around the Sothos becomes Thobakgale. Phathela amongst the Indians becomes Patel. Hadzhi becomes Hadji or Hali amongst Indians. Sadiki becomes Sathekge among Tswanas and Sadik amongst Pakistans or Indians. Mathivha becomes Matebe or Mothiba amongst Zulus and Sothos. Seremane becomes Selman in Ghana. Etc, etc. This goes on to prove that the Lembas are embedded all over nations and tribes. Many people have blood links of the Lembas, but they are not even aware of this. 🔥

[@AliShah-er7iu]

How do Jews feel about this Black Hebrew Israelite madness? Do you generally find it funny as long as there is no physical intimidation involved, or is it just offensive? Personally I think that they are mad and extremely toxic. (reacting to the Rabbi's comments about his video of African Jews.)

[@dominicjohnson310]

What do African Jews have to do with Hebrew Israelites that live in the U.S?

[@AliShah-er7iu]

@@dominicjohnson310 who else goes as around accusing Jews if being fake and the original Jews were black? (I hope there aren't multiple groups of nut jobs running around.)

[@rachelsamuel3328]

The Lemba are not Jews. There has been no tribe in Africa shown to come from the Jews.

[@AliShah-er7iu]

@@rachelsamuel3328 weren't some of their members found to have to Cohen gene?

[@rachelsamuel3328]

​@@AliShah-er7iu NO, the original CMH was very early. And did not tell Cohens from Arabs, Kurds, or Armenians. The Study in the South African Medical Journal as well as the Extended CMH. The Lemba do not show any Cohen genes. The South African Medical Journal 2013 in their study titled, *_Lemba origins revisited: tracing the ancestry of Y chromosomes in the South African and Zimbabwean Lemba_* stated; *While it was not possible to trace unequivocally the origins of the non-African Y chromosomes in the Lemba and Remba, this study does not support the earlier claims of their Jewish genetic heritage*

[@patrickhowell5382]

The same way they did the blood test on Lemba. I believe they should do the test on all Person in Israel who say they are Jews.

[@tstyleartistry]

They will never because it would expose the truth. I've heard that it is illegal for them to even do those genealogy tests without government consent.

[@SplashIt34]

@@tstyleartistrythat is correct

[@rra6033]

@@SplashIt34I thought they do the tests and that’s how the Indian Jews returned to Israel.

[@maxungar516]

8:10 you merely adopted the cohen identity... i was born in it... molded by it...

[@intrepidelica7059]

How about Radhanite genetics?

[@rachelsamuel3328]

Radhanite just were traveling Jewish merchants, they probably left kids throughout the world but they would not likely know of any Jewish past,

[@intrepidelica7059]

@@rachelsamuel3328 you mean like most Jews now?

[@michaelrainey9668]

Why would white-skinned people, fleeing Roman soldiers that are pursuing them, hide out in Africa instead of heading north into Europe? They would stick out like a sore thumb. Also, a thousand or so years later, the life expectancy in Africa for a white man was only 6 weeks! Can someone jump in and explain this to me, please? Thanks.

[@rachelsamuel3328]

The Jews fleeing the Romans were not White, they were sallow skinned or olive skinned, and they did not flee 3000 miles through the Sahara dessert. They fled to Egypt, Morocco, Algeria, Elephantine Island and other areas in North Africa.

[@LisaCulton]

Because they weren't white-skinned. That's a northern European phenotype.

[@judeekgole6165]

Maybe I don't understand these man, actually he denies the Lemba to be Jewish, these ppl can't just from nowhere and claim to be Jewish, it is from their ancestral blood line, those whom we regard them as the Jews are from European countries and flooded into Israel. Those are not Jews as they claim. Israelites are explained in John 1:12, those are true Israelites in the eyes of God.

[@rachelsamuel3328]

The Study in the South African Medical Journal as well as the Extended CMH. The Lemba do not show any Cohen genes. The South African Medical Journal 2013 in their study titled, *_Lemba origins revisited: tracing the ancestry of Y chromosomes in the South African and Zimbabwean Lemba_* stated; *While it was not possible to trace unequivocally the origins of the non-African Y chromosomes in the Lemba and Remba, this study does not support the earlier claims of their Jewish genetic heritage*

[@rachelsamuel3328]

The Jews spent a diaspora in Europe, thry are not from Europe, they are called Jews because they originally come from Judea.

[@francismusali676]

​@@rachelsamuel3328the so called Cohen gene is just another way for Europeans to claim they're the "Jews"

[@g.g1217]

​@@rachelsamuel3328😂😂😂😂. Thanks for the humor.

[@rachelsamuel3328]

@@g.g1217 What did you find humerous? As I stated facts..... Do you always find the truth humerous?

[@Buddhavibez]

I am a descendant of North African shemites. There is substantial written evidence of who they were. Here is one of many books. Your welcome and I also welcome any questions. The Bible View of the Jewish Church In Thirteen Lectures, Delivered During January-April, 1888, in the Fourth Avenue Presbyterian Church, N.Y. By Howard Crosby · 1888

[@evisceratorxxx7961]

Stop. We already know that the Euros were “grafted” in. The rest is I say so and spraining. 1:07

[@rachelsamuel3328]

You did not do your due diligence! The Lemba did not show the Extended CMH that 95% of Cohanim do,

[@HenryAbramsonPhD]

Hey, relying on Daniel Goldstein's research. He has pretty good credentials, published his research with Yale. I intend to look up the South African Medical Journal citation you provided, but I didn't see too much other material disputing his findings.

[@rachelsamuel3328]

@@HenryAbramsonPhD That was the earliest studies. Only 6 small gene sequences were used. Whan they found that 30% of the Arabs used as controls also showed positive for the "CMH" as well as Armenians and others. They knew that it was not a test of Cohen DNA. From the article on CMH; "But, subsequent Studies showed that the number of genetic markers was not enough. The last study, conducted in 2009 by Hammer and Behar at al., says 20 of the 21 Cohen haplogroups have no single common young haplogroup; five haplogroups comprise 79.5% of all haplogroups of Cohen. Hammer and Behar have redefined an *extended CMH haplotype* as determined by a set of 12 markers and having as "backround" haplogroup determining the most important lines J1(46.1%) This haplotype is absent among non-Jews in 2009 analyzed in the study." The Lemba do not show the Extended CMH and were dropped out as the Arab controls did,

[@rachelsamuel3328]

@@HenryAbramsonPhD "The authors Elkins, at al. warned in their report that "using the current CMH definition to infer relation of individuals or groups to the Cohen or ancient Hebrew populations would produce many false-positive results," and note that "it is possible that the originally defined CMH represents a slight permutation of a more general Middle Eastern type than was established early on in the population prior to the divergence of haplogroup J".

[@rachelsamuel3328]

@@HenryAbramsonPhD From the article, *DNA and the Origin of the Jews* on the online site *The Torah* Under the heading, *Problems with the Study* "almost 20 years later, we know that these early studies can be challenged; even their authors have significantly revised their conclusions."

[@rachelsamuel3328]

@@HenryAbramsonPhD Please read the article, *The Genetic Bonds between Kurds and Jews* on the site, *_Jewish Coalition for Kurdistan_* *Many Kurds have the "Jewish" Cohen Modal Haplotype* _"Some Jewish Rabbis used the Cohen study to argue that all Cohens with the CMH descended from Aaron... _*_Shortly after, it was determined that 53% of the Buba clan of the Lemba people of southern Africa have the CMH, compared to 9% of the non-Buba Lembas. The Lembas claim descent from ancient Israelites, and they follow certain Jewish practices such as circumcision and refraining from eating pork, and for many geneticists and historians the genetic evidence seemed to verify their claim."_* _"However, it soon became apparent that the CMH _*_is not specific to Jews or descendants of Jews._*_ In a 1988 article in Science News titled, "The Priests Chromosome", Dr Skorecki indicated (in an interview) that some non-Jews also possess the Cohen markers, and that the markers are therefore not "unique or special". The CMH is very common among the Iraqi Kurds, according to a 1999 study by C.Brinkman st al. And in her 2001 article, Oppenheim wrote: "The dominant haplotype of the Muslim Kurds (haplotype 114) was only one microsatellite-mutation step apart from the CMH... (Oppenheim 2001, PG 1100). Furthermore, the CMH is also found among some Armenians, according to Dr. Levon Yepiskoposyan (Head of the Institute of Man in Yerevan. Armenia), who has studied genetics for many years. Dr.Avshalom Zoosmann-Diskin wrote: "The suggestion that the 'Cohen Modal Haplotype' is a signature haplotype for. the ancient Hebrew population is also not supported by data from other populations"._ _"In short, the CMH is a genetic marker from the northern Middle East which is not unique to Jews. However, its existence among many Kurds and Armenians, as well as some Italians and Hungarians, would seem to support the overall contention that the Kurds and Armenians are the close relatives of modern Jews and the majority of today's Jews have paternal ancestry from the northeastern Mediterranean region."_ I think this time you did not do your due diligence. There are many of the Black Hebrews that watch you and twist your words and the information you provide. I am still putting out fires because of the mention of the Kalonomys family as being one of the original founding Ashkenazi families, the BHI now insist because of this fact, from your video that ALL Jews are converts and derive from the Kalonomys family who were all converts. The Lemba were tested against the Original CMH, this study was created by Dr.Shorecki, not Goldstein and it has been shown to be too broad and used a small amount of gene sequences. The later studies all show that the Lemba do not show the Extended CMH that used more and specific gene sequences, not general genes. The BHI not knowing that the original CMH came from Ashkenazi and Sephardi Jews that self -Identified as Jews constantly use their incorrect understanding that all the Lemba show 53% of High Priests DNA when the general Jewish population slows less than 3% of this DNA. Many of us are in the trenches daily fighting the BHI that call the Real Jews as fakes and converts, You could do a video on the true DNA of Jews and the unbroken chain of Jewish descent, tradition, law, culture, language, and heritage going back to Mount Sinai, how there are Jews shown in the ancient Synogogues as light skinned people, how the Eguptians in their Book of Gates showed the Israelites as sallow skinned with fringes on their clothes as the Torah demands. A visual show of Jews depiction, throughout the ages would help. They say that you insist the Real Jews were Negroes, because in the Roman catacombs you showed dark skinned Jews being pictured. Another great source has been the KZbin channel *Ninety-Three TV* who debunks the BHI ideas that All the Sephardi Jews were Negroes as they were called swarthy by the Europeans, anything you could do to help this fight would be appreciated.

[@khamari22]

They came from a White man...this is Hilarious Eracism

[@ettinosaomorodion7631]

😂😂😂😂that’s what I said this guy’s hilarious

[@ettinosaomorodion7631]

And they never claimed to come from a white man 😅😂

[@rachelsamuel3328]

The Lemba in their creation story admit that 7 Israelite men shipwrecked and then married Black Lemba women. They used to call themselves as the White men of the North. They after those women had children, they only married other Black Africans,.

[@francismusali676]

​@@rachelsamuel3328nonsense bot

[@rachelsamuel3328]

@@francismusali676 You are the Bot, why don't you actually research the Lemba? The Study in the South African Medical Journal as well as the Extended CMH. The Lemba do not show any Cohen genes. The South African Medical Journal 2013 in their study titled, *_Lemba origins revisited: tracing the ancestry of Y chromosomes in the South African and Zimbabwean Lemba_* stated; *While it was not possible to trace unequivocally the origins of the non-African Y chromosomes in the Lemba and Remba, this study does not support the earlier claims of their Jewish genetic heritage*

[@Blotneroles]

i wonder, is there a chance to identify Benjamin and Juda haplotype?

[@rachelsamuel3328]

No, doubtful they had the same father. All the Tribes if truly from Jacob should have the Same haplotype. And there were men who accepted the Torah and married Jewish or Israelite women and they became part of the Tribe.

[@usaeyeglass4023]

jews did not keep a tradition of what exact tribe they are from. only kohen and levi tribe since we rely on them for some types of services in synogogue...although it's a tradition that most jews now come from the tribe of yehuda or juda...hence the name " jews " from Juda

[@rachelsamuel3328]

@@usaeyeglass4023 The word Jew comes from Judean, those of the Southern Kingdom, not the tribe of Judah. The Southern Kingdom had Judah, Benjamin, Simeon and the Levites assigned to those tribes. There was also the spouses and the merchants that lived in the Southern Kingdom and were of the tribes of the Northern Kingdom. After the Assyrian and Babylonian invasions. All the Israelites that were in the land were called Jews.

[@rachelsamuel3328]

@@usaeyeglass4023 The Cohens had different purity laws then all the other Israelites. They handle death different, Marriage and other factors.

[@usaeyeglass4023]

@@rachelsamuel3328 you're wrong... the word jew comes from yehuda .Arabs also call jews yahud from the same name... the 12 tribes were born at least a thousand years before Moses entered israel

[@neilgoodman2885]

Most Respected Professor: I am overjoyed (over the moon?) about this genetic presentation! 10-Q, NHG.

[@rachelsamuel3328]

Except it did not tell the real story, the Lemba have not been shown to have High Priests DNA,

[@HenryAbramsonPhD]

Thank you!

[@rachelsamuel3328]

​@@TwelveTribesForever The Lemba do not have the Cohen Markers, they have a similar Arab DNA pattern. There were 5 studies done on Cohen genetics. The original CMH (Cohen Modal Haplotype) was tested in 1996 and 2000 when DNA testing was in its infancy. Dr. Karl Skorecki tested Ashkenazi and Sephardi Jews that self identified as Cohanim. From these "White" Jews they found 6 gene sequences that most had, they labeled this as the CMH. The problem was that the control group, which was mostly Levantine Arabs that had no ties to the Jews, let alone to the Israelite High Priests, *Over 30% showed positive for these 6 gene sequences,* If this was truly a test of Cohen genetics, these Arabs should have shown negative. In later testing they tightened the parameters of the DNA testing and they used more gene sequences to create *The Extended CMH* this had many more gene sequences chosen. When the Arabs and Lemba were tested against the Extended CMH. Neither the Arabs, nor the Lemba had these genes, while 95% of the Real Cohen Jews showed positive. The Study in the South African Medical Journal as well as the Extended CMH, *the Lemba do not show any Cohen genes.* *_The South African Medical Journal,_** 2013 in their study titled, ***_Lemba origins revisited: tracing the ancestry of Y chromosomes in the South African and Zimbabwean Lemba_* stated; *While it was not possible to trace unequivocally the origins of the non-African Y chromosomes in the Lemba and Remba, this study does not support the earlier claims of their Jewish genetic heritage*

[@0397rb]

Bantu are not israelites nor any other African tribe

[@gedenironald8635]

Who is "Bantu"?, You can't show me one person who is from the "Bantu" tribe. Let me help you, no tribe in Africa is called "Bantu", Bantu is a name given or invented by linguist Wilhelm Bleek in 1857 or 1858 and popularized in his Comparative Grammar of 1862. Lastly, Lemba are Jews and just like myself, we do not need some Arab or fake Jew to tell us who we are, science do not lie and our oral traditions are very clear, you on the other hand most likely and Arab living in North Africa because of military invasion and religious conquest, you are not a Jew and not even African.

[@francismusali676]

​@@gedenironald8635am a Ugandan, bantu is a word that means people, it's not tied to race or ethnicity. it's just people, a white person can be called "muntu" and white people can be called "bantu". What is interesting is that most ethnicities that I have heard of trace their origin to the north according to ancient stories. Somewhere in Egypt or onward. There is a myth that Europeans started that says "bantu" originate from equatorial Africa specifically Cameroon but our own historical records point North around Egypt or Ethiopia.

[@marciabailey8090]

Thank you for your video this was informative. The bible states God''s people are scattered throughout the 4 corners of the earth, we should all continue to pray that all the Children of Israel including you become known to world, whether they reside in Israel, Europe, North America and yes West Africa, Southern Africa or East Africa.

[@Bahzy2024]

I am Bantu, Binen and togo.

[@carrollrhodes4050]

Now this is verifiable. The first time I was identified as being a member of a "tribe" was by two Jews who operated a business on 7th Avenue, Hendersonville, NC. They were father and son and were members of the Jewish Temple on King Street. It measured about (I want to say 12' by 24'.) well very small. There were no outside markings. AT least I don't recall any. When the father saw me he yelled for the son, "Sammy come and look at this one." I was about four or five years of age and hid behind my stepfather as Louis continued calling my stepfather by name and asking. "Where did you get this one?" My stepfather answered, "He came with my second wife." The word "tribe" was used several times. My stepfather paid close attention and the next thing I can remember about this was my stepfather describing what Louis and Sammy had said to my mother. "They said he was a member of a tribe." He was sure they meant Cherokee Tribe! I want to go back and see if that Temple is still there.

[@NuNugirl]

My Great Great Grandparents were sponsored to America from Manchester England, by their family members living in North Carolina. My Grandfather’s two Brothers were taken in by the Southern families, because their parents both died from “ The Spanish Flu”. Grandpa was raised by his Maiden Aunt Eva living in a Hotel in Midtown Manhattan. Mom spent Summers in “ the mountains” and my Grandpa paid for the Cousins to join the family. No air conditioning in those days. Those summers were brutal.

[@carrollrhodes4050]

@@NuNugirl Thanks, Girl! I'd love to hear more from you.

[@abrahamjackson6019]

This is fascinating, I'll research this from a more credible source. Interesting

[@hiswillbedone642]

If you translate Malawi from Swahili to English it translates to the levites.

[@Coco-kw3iv]

Thank you. I just commented somewhere here telling them that Lemba people are same as Malawians which are all Aaron's children. Aaron who is Abraham's brother. Do Lembas are black people and bantus they have nothing to do with white Jewish people. Period! People must stop this madness! Jewish people are converts. They are NOT biblical people. They say this themselves. Not unless they want to deceive you. This guy must go and dit down somewhere. We who the fuck we are...

[@RobinHerzig]

Point of contention on the wives' fidelity, in particular the use of the term fidelity. Perhaps in the tightest, most technical sense when using this term in a lab study it's correct. However, to my ears, it lands as implied consent. I would venture that in most cases, or at least more often than not, throughout Jewish history, as well as human history, that this was definitely not the case.

[@ajarnwordsmith628]

3:53 What's for dinner? Stuffed mice, anyone? We have the Romans to thank in general and Apicius in particular for handing down a recipe on how to prepare a dormouse for dinner. Enough, already...