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[@juancruzlujan6034]

"Practical Counter To Forward Castle On Arena" = having the most unbreakable defense in the world 🤣

[@graouhyoga]

And "probably lose 6-7 times out of 10". Now that's practical, I can apply it !

[@schmeed0000]

have good conversion luck and good mangonel bbc shot luck. 2500 elo guaranteed.

[@locutusdiborg88]

and god-tier micro

[@RyanProsser0]

Ikr I came here for tips!!! Enjoyed the commentary, after watching the live event

[@HvacHeathen]

Watching this is like watching a totally different game. I would’ve resigned after the second or third castle drop for sure. Your true skill lies in your ability to build a fire from your ashes

[@injest1928]

I think expanding out is so important when you're under pressure like this. I see so many people back themselves into a corner when they get castle dropped.

[@IceSpoon]

I do that, and I lose the game. There's no way I could do half of the things Hera did here, but I definitely learned a valuable lesson about spreading out.

[@acamilicko]

Once I got CD on 2nd gate - no running out. It may be a good practice, a bit riskier, but close the farther gate first, and then quickly the closer one, and there is no expanding out ;)

[@aa01blue38]

I think mr. Yo played admirably in this series, Hera has been pretty unstoppable but Yo came up with some really interesting and unexpected strategies that made it quite a challenge.

[@Quadman808]

I've watched nearly all your stuff, one of the best come backs i think i've ever seen - Incredible Way To Stick It out for the Win !

[@derekhettinger451]

Agreed. Pro mindset to not fold. I'd have been mentally gone upon seeing that Castle finish.

[@MrVollpfoste]

second career for Hera as a caster incomming xD

[@GotchaPlaysGer]

Now have him react to himself casting a game of himself ;) reaction content creator inc

[@xAptenodytE]

Amazing game. Remember watching it live at NAC. What a start to the series :) I think Yo's biggest "mistake" if you can call it that was actually not converting your siege workshop right after the stable. You were struggling for wood a lot at this moment in the game and I think this would have increased the presssure a lot more than the castle on the bottom side. Rebuilding the siege workshop is basically 1 less BBC then and potentially later. In hindsight it's obviously easy to say. Looking forward to the HC games.

[@naturalbornpatriot6369]

Damn man, this is definitely one for the books. Thanks for the highlight. Your narration and tone of confidence gave away the ending, but regardless it was still a really good one. GG

[@mrtadulla1512]

Watching this live was awesome. You taught me to never give up, that's how I won a game yesterday after getting pressured the whole game :)

[@benedictjajo]

He would have definitely won if he went cavalier+monk once he lost his 2 castles inside your base. The organs+monk felt pretty useless once you got BBCs and Hussars.

[@ChessPampa]

This game is one of a kind. One of the best games Ive seen

[@Jompa10]

Such a good game! Gj staying cool. I love how you are both threatening to kill the other one at the same time

[@sralmendrita]

for 900 Elo, the way i counter fordward castle (i play a lot of arena) is to make a super strong dark age with 11 vills on wood, 14 in food, 4 in stone, 2 in gold and 1 extra building things while changing age. In feudal i build market and BS as fast as possible, create 2 vills more for stone. For the time market is up i have enoght for castle and 3 pikemen and forge. Most of the time rival is castle like 4 min before me, but i have a lot of pikes with forge to counter any castles. If they quickwall, tower, but generally this dont happens (remember, 900 elo, works for me most of times)

[@parkerbond9400]

Turks do have redemption. They don't have block printing, illumination, or herbal medicine.

[@leifdurcholz8486]

21:08 this is like the olden times😂

[@emerson685]

Not that you didn’t defend like a beast, but watching it live, it felt like Yo was unlucky with some conversion that I thought he should have gotten. Those little dudes pushing your cannons were loyal AF.

[@MrJhonvick]

I've seen this Match 3 times and still believe (YO) DELEATING Stable was a mistake.

[@edmis90]

Omfg Hera, you can't do this! This is not a video title one can easily pass up on and not watch. Sleep? Or watch? Sleep? Or watch? I blame Hera for my struggles, and he deserves it..

[@DealDiscoverer]

I really liked the video, but how about the arena you played against Tatoh!! that was insane!!

[@epsilon2944]

That defense was incredible but conversions for Yo were really rough

[@dustymanjuiice4445]

That's always a smart play if he's pushing for Your Base push for his base instead of going to defend

[@LimitBreakr424]

Awesome vid sharing your mindset of this match

[@HvacHeathen]

Love you Hera! Thank you for the content

[@Catatomicx]

I remember you put a match vs. Viper where he did Organ guns vs. you pre nerf (you were playing Burgundians) You ended up losing the game because you never tried taking the opportunity to run some vils outside of your initial walls. I put a comment talking about enemy unit vision and how (assuming he didn't make outposts) you would have been able to abuse his slow movespeed to make a comeback. You actually read and liked it! While watching this NACV live, I thought back to that game and got insanely hyped watching you implement lessons you learned from old games WHERE VIEWERS WERE GIVING FEEDBACK This is why you're the GOAT and why you'll be my favorite AoE2 pro until the end of time. Humility, passion, perseverance, and the ability to not let the potential of optimal enemy play stop you from making your own opportunities (Yo could've saved the monks if he stopped shooting your walls ~ 16:05 ) Translating lessons from your AoE gameplay over the last few months helped me hit Diamond for the first time in LoL with the highest winrate I've ever had. Go Hera!!!!

[@DJWONTONho]

It was moments like this that Mr. Yo gained a fan and I also was pumped to watch Nac5 streams.

[@aye-ayeldkoala7417]

Cast your arena against tatoh. That game was sick.

[@LimitBreakr424]

2 weeks ago he made a community post saying he was working on a video for that match. I might be missremembering that he actually uploaded it because I cant find such a video on his channel. He does have his group set against Tatoh on his other gameplay channel

[@HeraAgeofEmpires2]

Coming soon!

[@emad8944]

Your opponent doesn't have a heart of a fighter. It could be a really nice battle to see but he resigns. Although, very nice resistance by you Hera, mabrouk

[@uga-uga1427]

Nice Game Hera. I think outbooming is a pretty usefull strategy, because most of the time u can hold quite well with little effort in the ages before post imp. greetings Butcher

[@sfrn533]

This game was the best arena game I've ever seen

[@christianflores9176]

If I see a castle drop in my face like that, I’m resigning

[@thelostangel7649]

9:35 That's really good insight, I only thought that it would be really hard to find value with light cav against so many organ guns already on the field. Seemed already too late to go into it at that point.

[@vinconssier4224]

Awesome battle. Love this format bro keen to see more play-by-play

[@ar1sm70]

Next time a Masters of Arena tournament happens, you better be in there, no excuses 1111

[@lukeborg5353]

Mic quality sounds good

My man, there's a lot you can teach undoubtedly but this game, this game was pure skill from your side. I feel like deep down you just know that you are better overall and that does not let you accept how bad your current situation is in these kind of games, well played like always ~

[@pointteaboy7113]

organ gun nerf actually changed the interaction with armored units. Hussars especially turk hussars actually tank quite a bit

[@ns-islandsroblox]

If you were Mayans, britons, or any non-redemption civ with no bbc, how would you counter this? Thanks

[@solorsix]

Nice work!

[@ricardocunha5590]

This game was amazing, it blowed my mind 👏 As arena is my favorite map, do you consider playing it more often? IMO, and think you start to agree, arena can be a lot of fun to play (watch) and involves out of the box strategies, mental guessing (openings). Keep them coming and congrats again 🐐🏆👏

[@makiboo]

I watched this live, i could not believe that you could defend from this, amazing match.

[@skdword]

good lord i would have tapped out SO quickly lol

[@juansalazar828]

I couldn´t believed that you took away Yo´s game, gratz on NAC5 and the streak

[@ObiwanNekody]

That is one of the best games I've seen, at least how it feels right now.

[@EMERICFRQC]

Dude that is sick

[@victorfinberg8595]

big daddy counters forward castle every time

[@slungellife]

Isn't Turks pretty much the best civ to defend a castle drop with, alongside maybe byzantines?

[@aspirenux8599]

Be the hera 😊

[@mikehelgeson6100]

Turks have redemption monks. But gg hera. Keep it up

[@tyler5mannion]

unreal comeback

[@zeynel99aoe]

I think a 20 min fast imp wpuld be better. But yea u cant see the future. am i right?

[@bunny_wilder]

You didn't mentioned how he was pop capped for so long because of the faetoria spam + you knocking down his castles. He cannot make more monks or organ guns to push you back

[@matthieumenard8149]

I took the build order of that game from yo for my arena games. I felt it would be so strong at 1300 elo. It didn't disapoint.

[@synt4x1e]

Practical counter = be better.

[@joshmcdonald7472]

1430 Elo on Xbox thank god you posted this people try castle drop every time

[@HvacHeathen]

What civs do you play? I am also on Xbox, 1130

[@joshmcdonald7472]

@@HvacHeathen I really like Vietnamese, bohemians and hindustanis. Vietnamese can turbo their economy with quick and cheap eco upgrades, bohemians turbo it with fervor and the free mining upgrades and Hindustanis with the cheap vills and knight + archer counters

[@HvacHeathen]

@@joshmcdonald7472 I have some experience with Hindustans. No experiment with Vietnamese, I have played Bohemins but I failed to boom my Eco. with the help of the tech Fervor if I am hearing you right? Does fervor not make monks move a bit faster? Appreciate the response by the way. I’ve been struggling to find anyone to talk to AOE2 on Xbox about I would love to ask you some stuff if that’s cool :)

[@Talemir]

Incredible game Hera are you robot or something ????

[@4everdex]

This game was absolutely insane. After the third castle dropped I was absolutely certain there was no coming back from this. Even the casters sounded like this game is over, even though you are trying everything to turn it. By far the best arena game I have seen so far. I hate that map btw.

[@thebigmarvinski]

that was awesome to watch, it shows me that i tap out at times too early

[@Jelle528]

Crazy how much value you got out of those 3-5 bombard cannons

[@YuhuanXie]

You never had stone to get a castle and artillery, Yo could have gotten his own bombards with siege engineers to outrange yours. Turks get redemption and atonement! You can mouse over the flag in the top corner to see your tech tree or download a mod to have the techtree show up in the area where you see unit lifebars. Can't wait for the review of your Aztec game on Arena vs Tatoh, the most amazing game I've ever seen, you micro the monks like the old AI from AoC that would hit and run with 20 archers at the same time.

[@BYRONSLAM09]

"and that s how you counter a drop castle easily... you just have to play like me, the best player of the world. izzy pizzy" 😂😂😂

[@sfrn533]

Great content! can you make video for how to counter tuks imp push?

[@ignaciootondo8732]

Impresionante!! Genio! 👏🏼👏🏼👏🏼

[@16vSciroccoboi]

Sometimes my move is to just resign. Not because i can't defend or win, but because i just get bored being castle dropped so many times and the elo isn't really worth it.

[@tojassargaja2085]

Half of the time Jo castles were attacking buildings instead of units. 16:06 he lost like 5 monks to 3 low hp hussars, while the hussars were under 2 castles.

[@proslewa]

in this game there were like at least 5 moments that normal people resign, but hera..

[@micheleeichstetter4627]

The biggest mistake Yo does here is the placement of his second castle. He needs to place it next to Hera's second gate so he can't escape. Without the space to farm outside, Hera has am even harder defense and I don't see him coming back then.

[@moralez_84]

Incredibly well played.

[@SmackU247]

You are so insane at defending, and stalling.

[@sogard3.028]

hello,Hera.Would you want to play a 4v1 against me and 3 of my friends(we are beginners)? we can play on any map with any civilizations.

[@HeraAgeofEmpires2]

Yeah sure i offer this service, find the details in my discord

[@sogard3.028]

Im glad to hear that, Hera! You are my favorite Aeo2 yt..the champion!!!! Ill check the details there.

[@billy1496]

me as a 1000 elo: ultra instinct is to build rams. and then delete your own wall all at once. RAMS!!!

[@vaberan]

Why didnt he switched into Cavalery after the 2nd or 3rd castle? Knights counter everything you had plus kills vils.

[@hannibalfloyd]

I'm surprised Yo attempted that strategy given that organ guns have been nerfed into the ground, they die so hard to mangonels now. Definitely got some undeserved elo using that strat on arena before it got nerfed, it was way too strong.

[@Jerome...]

How do you counter forward castle when both your golds are in the front and pressured by said castle?

[@nickbeltz8602]

'Let me speed this up to Texas speed' That's what I heard. Love the videos. Post GL team games

[@cuneytevin9323]

Why Yo didn't use light cav with organ guns?

[@SaaM2015]

No one other than you in the world could have won this game !

[@kch2.4]

how 😂

[@zeynel99aoe]

I will copy the portugiese strat. Thx

[@kelvinka5200]

i think if yo had a lil bit more defence in his base, 15+ more halbs or something, he wouldve won that one

[@teliph3U]

What do you do when you do not have cannons? And why did Yo not build cannons?

[@blackhairedgees]

what if u make towers + mango vs port organgs?

[@leonwang144]

incredible game

[@JahanThakur-rm3hn]

A counter when you are not turks would be great to see!

[@ModernMozart1104]

How to counter a forward castle. Trebs.

[@why_wait]

Incredible game

[@fsdafdsafdas]

Came here expecting just some tips and knowledge drop, find one of the most resilient talent based wins I've ever seen 11

[@ariisee]

Beautiful game ngl

[@fuuuuuuuuuuuullllll7790]

Sos una bestia hera

[@virtualdexterity]

I would've resigned 5 times in this situation

[@uglymeez236]

I must be a total noob but wouldnt pikes defending the monks or running down both cannon/hussar be viable? Am i missing something 11 ? A handful of pikes would have wiped your hussars. Great game as always hera

[@yosemitebandit]

isn't there a NAC5 game that was super similar?

[@allenbythesea]

great video but really hate when casters talk about 'broken' units when they are just normal counters. This game would be awful if everything were just the same effectiveness against everything else.

[@HvacHeathen]

Would call him a “caster” he’s the number 1 player in the world most of the time in this game lol

[@HvacHeathen]

Nah some units are def broken. Sure everything has counters, and different levels of soft and hard counters, but somtimes the game devs. Are not perfect humans and they improperly create one of these relationships, causing for example a hard counter to one unit may also do pretty good against all other units, and do just fine in mass against its own hard counter. Things can always be broken lol

[@allenbythesea]

fair, he is the best! I was talking casters as a generalization.@@HvacHeathen

[@HvacHeathen]

@@allenbythesea ahh also very fair to you, I can see that being an anoyying trait for casters to have. Might’ve gotten a little defensive for Hera 😂 if he’s says it broken it’s broken! Lol even he is not infallible just like the game devs. I see your point good sir

[@LanceXBT]

how do i get these maps? I also have definitive edition 2

[@shahrezaDE]

I thought when you picked turks you go for your famous fast imp bbc hc. Was surprised you didn't.

[@oddfuture42O]

I love castle dropping in team games with Bohemians 26+2 pop with an instant castle built where u want it as you hit castle while also instantly adding a TC and you can steady produce wagons while adding eco with 2 tc eventually adding the 3rd and 4th all while steady pushing and still pretty much booming into Imp making bombard cannons killing all siege after push flattens out and adding spears with Houfnice and some more castles. I’d love to see a pro do it there’s a really sick build order to be done while maintains military and eco.

[@dylanfalk3243]

This is how my Turks games look

[@frankxu1365]

Feel like no one can do it with any other civ lol, free chemistry + hussar is so crucial here

[@Vazgen_Ghazaryan]

Could you do anything in this situation with Armenians?

[@AA-pk6fo]

nothing practical about your defense, it was a work of art!!! wp

[@almandyn1]

Is it possible to convert a petard without redemption?