Hercules vs Sun Wukong Death Battle - TheMythologyGuy reacts

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[@TheMythologyGuy1]

This was supposed to go up a month ago but RoosterTeeth decided to copyright block it. Only just got the claim off. Also, sorry for the bad audio quality. There was a mic issue that I didn't notice until it was too late.

[@daleketchup7434]

How do you get copyright strike from a show reminiscent to schoolyard debates?

[@maeborowski3356]

@@daleketchup7434 I know right? They didn’t have anything to do with the creation of the two characters, or their rise to fame in the modern world, seems like everyone is out to steal tmg’s money

[@daleketchup7434]

@@maeborowski3356 yeah. I remember when RoosterTeeth created Hercules and Sun Wukong. 2 characters that have existed for over several decades

[@runningthemeta5570]

I can’t see why RoosterTeeth would copyright claim this since I’ve seen countless other death battle reactions.

[@ChaojiV3]

@@runningthemeta5570 I so agree like there many but why his video on death battle out of all death battle reaction from other

[@Ostentatiousnessness]

I love how you could start Sun Wukong's origin story with: "One day a rock decided it didn't want to be a rock, so it turned into a monkey." And you wouldn't be wrong.

[@executiveplier6652]

Bro really went FUCK BEING A ROCK I WANT TO BE MONKEY

[@ilovecairns5181]

Well, “A rock gave birth to a rock which was actually a monkey.” Would be more accurate.

[@jimmyfaltu8155]

Ironic because in this he’s pitted against the Rock 😂

[@yaroslavpanych2067]

Rock gave birth to rock-egg, which hatched the monkey.

[@inigo-montoya]

journey to the west can be sumarized in something like: part 1: everybody tries to kill the inmortal monkey for being a jerk, but they only fail and get him new layers of inmortality part 2: monkey king pulls up a jotaro and carries the team for 10 years

[@roberte.o.speedwagon5110]

This is more mythologically accurate than the sea of monsters…

[@aliamvickersfan2388]

The Movie. Very important.

[@vladtheimpaler9577]

That's not a high bar.

[@Dice_roller]

The movie, not the book.

[@isaim3561]

Wait the movie what movie

[@chendror872]

@@isaim3561 there's no Percy Jackson movie in ba sing se

[@jasonsterlingentertainment478]

It speaks to how legit the Mythology guy actually is when he already knows every strength, weakness and piece of obscure lore in the video he hasn't watched before

[@kimhungnguyen8001]

True that

[@Drako2577]

That's what i was thinking. He just told the whole death battle before watching it.

[@theblackenedking9858]

Sun Wukong: Tons of interesting and crazy skills Heracles: punch hard

[@johnathanholmes1297]

That is not right. Hercules (or Heracles depending on which you pick) thinks and punches hard.

[@fidomf7922]

And the monkie hits things with a stick really hard and laughs

[@KellyCalKelsey]

Sounds like a setup for a joke, “an intellectual who punches hard and monkey with a stick walk into a bar”

[@spacemandoesthings1017]

@fidomf and clones

[@meti326]

His a God know so he have also God Powers like Magic immortality Transformation and so on i think the fight wouldn't been so easy for wukong

[@WolfDB]

I'm glad you really seemed to like this episode. I like seeing when channels who aren't normally associated with the Death Battle fanbase give reactions to Death Battle based on their own channel's themes

[@enel8219]

Yeah

[@thesouthie6365]

the line "Woah! I hit him so hard he was reduced to nothingness!" was a direct reference to a chapter of Jttw where he did and said the same thing

[@windofchaosblows]

It was pretty obvious Wukong will win but was still interesting to watch, that's one of the reasons I love Sun Wukong so much, he is an overpowered character done right, because you know he is going to win but you still hyped to see exactly how because he has so many abilities and powers but relies on his wit rather than raw power

[@OmegaQuinn]

In media he is portrayed like that but he had gotten a lot of help from gods in the original journey to the west story but he did also have good fights that he won

[@joseloayza502]

@@OmegaQuinn Actually 90% of Wukong's demons are Buddha-Demons, a kind of demon created by Buddha for Wukong on his journey. The "real" demons are few and wukong kills them randomly.

[@OmegaQuinn]

@@joseloayza502 ah okay that makes sense

[@korsekil]

Yeah, he essentially went through a heroes' journey all to terrorize heaven itself. And you're absolutely right, his bag of tricks makes him a fun fight to watch.

[@tudoraragornofgreyscot8482]

Death Battle has gotten so much better over the years, research, animation, and humor-wise.

[@fernosbonos5394]

The writers are good now

[@aguest8150]

Then why are they so inaccurate with marvel dc and dragon ball

[@Ninjaman9323]

I'd have to beg to differ quite a bit on that.

[@celestialcreeper8736]

@@aguest8150 well he said better,not perfect,at least they are acknowledging them to be not just planet level and are actually using power scaleing for the characters.

[@wildste]

They've actually gotten worse. It used to be that they took literally every weapon, armour and skill that the fighters ever demonstrated. Now, they just pick and choose what they think applies. When they remade Sonic vs Mario, they freely admitted that they weren't going to count the Archie comics because Sonic would just automatically win since his speed is just that good.

[@frantisekvrana3902]

Correction: Before Heracles's wife bottled Nessos' blood, Heracles shot him with one of his hydra arrows. It was the hydra blood from the arrow, dilluted in Nessos' blood that got him. And it didn't even kill him. It caused him massive pain, so he had himself burned in a pyre. Hydra blood, stored for at least a decade, then heavily dilluted in centaur blood, then stored for another few years, then applied through skin contact was sufficent to cause Heracles massive pain. It's ridiculously poisonous.

[@jeffreygao3956]

But hey, at least it wasn't brute force that killed Heracles right?

[@frantisekvrana3902]

@@jeffreygao3956 A funeral pyre he prepared for himself can't be considered 'brute force', correct.

[@jeffreygao3956]

@@frantisekvrana3902 Stretching things a bit.

[@pottedplant7460]

The reception to the episode has generally been really positive, so I have little doubt that mythology will be returning sooner rather than later. In terms of mythology matchups, the big one at the moment is Zeus vs Odin, but mythology characters in general have seen a massive surge in popularity among the Death Battle viewership since Heracles and Wukong opened the floodgates. Gilgamesh, Perseus, Odysseus, Sir Arthur, Cu Chulainn, Hades, Maui (as an aside, Disney Hercules vs Disney Maui is a popular matchup for the show), Susano'o, Poseidon, all these and more have surged in requested since this episode dropped. Though, personally, I think Aztec mythology would be fun to tap into. Tell me Aztec mythology wouldn't fit Death Battle like a glove...

[@sirkillalot9892]

Huitzilopochtli and Quetzalcoatl could be fun. Did I get the spelling right?

[@eddihurta7173]

Hey fun fact I asked my friend who would win between ZUES vs Odin

[@thegreatmonacage3782]

@@eddihurta7173 What was his reply? Who do you think would win?

[@thegreatmonacage3782]

I'm surprised Hades is up there, he's strong but does fall far as he doesn't have that many feats of strength

[@lartts7483]

@@thegreatmonacage3782 Well that's because he doesn't really do anything in myth

[@dudebladeX]

1:50 I just _love_ how he just flat-out called one of the feats that got discussed in the episode proper. It's just so much fun watching how Mythology Guy basically just knows what they were going to talk about before they actually talk about it.

[@Rose-yx6jq]

Sun wu kong is like four times immortal. First he gets sought out various his ways to make himself immortal but the one he landed on was one that wound up being a method that the gods hated then he wound up in the afterlife and erased his name from The book of the dead (those who are slating to die eventually) along with as many monkeys of his kingdom he could find, then he ate the immortal peaches, then drink the immortal wine and then downed a bunch of pills of immortality so like four times immortal.

[@kaanmuhammedgunes1879]

You should also add enlightment which made him free of his shackles and become eternal a being.

[@huguesdepayens807]

What's your relationship like with your father?

[@Robopup325]

pretty sure it was 6. The monk's method, the ledgers of the dead, the peaches, the wine, the pills, the brazier burning away his mortality

[@savvythedivineyethuggable7493]

@@huguesdepayens807 Better than yours.

[@huguesdepayens807]

@@savvythedivineyethuggable7493 That's why I'm not trans right?

[@enochabraham688]

Wukong vs Hercules is an extreme mismatch. He’s got every power you can think of and can use that power to an insane degree. The fight should’ve been over pretty quick, and I’m glad DeathBattle didn’t make it a super-long fight. I love Hercules as a character, but Wukong is so OP that every media depiction of him is extremely weak by comparison, including Goku.

[@joseloayza502]

Mori jin also is weak

[@enochabraham688]

@@joseloayza502 yea they are all weak in comparison to the mythological Wukong. Eastern deities in general can be massively overpowered lol

[@enderborn6860]

@@enochabraham688 they nerf them for the sake of fun but yeat aot of eastern being mainly east asian ones are fucking broken like Ho ye (i think thats his name) fucker shot like 8 suns easly out passing Herc´s one sun thing

[@ViApp0]

Which is why this entire episode doesn't make sense. You could replace Heracles with just a random guy from the street and the result would've been the same. At least use someone from the Indian mythology that works on a similar or even larger scale.

[@Beastly_Genius]

@@joseloayza502nah he comes very close in power to the original Sun twice in the manga

[@warrenhorsley9710]

I don't know if you can find it, but in the 90s there was a cartoon called "Monkey Magic." It aired at like 4 AM on the west coast but it was honestly one of the best Wukong representations I've seen.

[@BJGvideos]

Didn't they show footage from it?

[@erebus512]

And now theres the webtoon/anime God of Highschool

[@covon934]

Centaur blood isn't poisonous. A centaur named Nessus kidnapped Heracles' wife Deianira and Heracles chased him to get her back. He shot the centaur with his bow and arrows which, as you know, were dipped in hydra blood which IS extremely poisonous. Nessus then on his dying breath told Deianira to dip an article of clothing into his blood because it would make sure that Heracles would stay faithful to her, but in fact, this was all a trick to get back on Heracles and kill him since Nessus' blood had now become toxic due to the hydra blood. So some years later, Heracles falls in love with another girl, his wife gives him the tunic, Heracles wears it and the hydra blood, not the centaur blood, since it was so toxic, burns his skin and the pain Heracles experiences is unbearable. BUT, it doesn't kill him, so not only did he not die from centaur blood (because as I said it isn't poisonous) he didn't die from hydra blood either. Instead, the way he actually dies, is that he finds a giant fire on a mountain, gifts the person who lit the fire his hydra blood arrow as a thank you, and then commits suicide by jumping in the fire, ascending into Olympus and becoming a full God in the process, as well as marrying one of Hera's daughters, and for anyone wondering, his poisoned arrows were used in the Trojan War to kill Paris. Hooray! Keep in mind: this is NOT a hate comment, I just saw this inaccuracy in the video at 6:49 and I was a bit surprised so, here you go Love your vids

[@calebhill7717]

Interesting cool

[@jeffreygao3956]

Nessus: The centaur with Yelp reviews like "VERY DISSAPOINTED", "TERRIBLE CUSTOMER SERVICE", and "I WILL NEVER USE THIS CENTAUR AGAIN"

[@namecomingsoon9517]

They did their research for this cause they were doing myths so they knew if they didn’t then a lot of people would be mad. For most death battles between comics or anime they sometimes skin stuff

[@jeffreygao3956]

RARELY skimp.

[@blaze048]

Yea usually they just scroll the fan wikis for a few minutes

[@paganpride159]

I'm amazed they would copyright you for supporting them. Well done and I fully agree with how you felt and this outcome

[@defect213]

RoosterTeeth's copyright shit is legitimately awful. I remember one time they even fucked over Death Battle themselves because they used a RWBY song in a video in a tribute to RWBY's creator

[@AugustoEL]

It is RT, the fuck you expect they are horrible at everything.

[@Fallout_John]

@@defect213death battle is owned by rooster teeth?

[@mirzapramudya1580]

​@@Fallout_Johnyou just knew?

[@Amanda-zn7ox]

19:31 Ah, I see they took inspiration from Overly Sarcastic Productions for Pigsy and Sandy.

[@bencherbryant-48]

When I first saw this death battle I was blown away but I didn’t know anything about sun wukong, after my research I now know this was the most unfair match-up in all death battle history… sun wukong is beyond broken

[@joseloayza502]

Much of the forums spend more debating whether or not it is fair to have them in forums. More than in battles already Sun Wukong wins, forum closed, it's over.

[@ShiningDarknes]

Sun Wukong is a Septuple-Immortal with ridiculous strength, speed, literal magic, shapeshifting, laser vision, healing from literally fatal injury, and wit. Hercules is probably physically stronger but is slower, isn’t immortal (if they are using the non-god version), and is a man of above average ability to think outside the box. The poison is not likely to actually kill him, I mean it didn’t even kill Heracles himself and Sun was poisoned by a probably worse poison and made it through that just fine and also survived a flame that strips away immortality and a attack that can end existence.

[@zockingtroller7788]

The video in the overview show him reattaching his head... If he cannot reach his head ,he just grows a new one, and the poison of the scorpion demon is most definitely deadly beyond belief (just like the hydra venom), but monkey cannot get killed by anything in existence so it just caused him excruciating pain (which he can also ignore... sometimes)

[@ShiningDarknes]

@@zockingtroller7788 like I said, if the scorpion didn't do him in the hydra venom certainly isn't if it couldn't even kill Heracles in his pre-god form. Monkey is just stupidly OP.

[@joseloayza502]

Also Buddha is basically God Zeus is like an angel So I don't think it will do anything to him.

[@zockingtroller7788]

@@joseloayza502 one hell of a messed up angel ... but good analogy otherwise

[@73NSH1]

@@joseloayza502 Zeus is god, not angel

[@darkzap_tts]

doesn't sun wu kong have 7 immortalities, isn't that enough to rock the shit out of heracles - the 70,000 clones that all can transform into all kinds of shit and can be as powerful as any person they are fighting (unless the opponent is omnicient) + if this is endgame sun wu kong he also has nirwana so idk guys, who could win

[@abzhz101handle9]

You forgot the *other* thing that Wu Kong did during his contest with the buddha, he decided to tinkle on the pillar that he wrote on too, because he thought it would be funny. That was *also* still there.

[@CommissarMitch]

That rock really went "Return to Monke"

[@eldesconocidosenork5981]

"That would have been a very specific win condition" Now that is surprising. props to them for accuracy

[@bowsersalternativeaccount5332]

Just gonna clear something up about the length of Death Battles. There hasn't been a 5 minute long battle since season 5, and that was the finale. Death Battle isn't mainly a big cinema series, it's just an internet show that does research and forms their opinion on who they think would win, so a big cinematic animation is very rare in the show. As long as it does what it's supposed to, it's fine. But anyway, that was a great reaction. It's always fun when people who aren't involved with Death Battle watch their content.

[@christopherg2347]

Huh, funny thing I just realized about Dragonball: Bulma is Tripitaka. You can map most characters to in DB to someone from JTTW. Oolong is Pigsy. Jamcha could be Sandy - replacing a River Dragon with a Desert Bandit. But Bulma is the first character Goku meets and she gives the quest: Get the Dragon Balls instead of transporting scrolls.

[@antoinehicks2681]

Technically kurirrin/krillin is Tripitaka

[@AugustoEL]

Sandy is kinda divided between Yamcha and the Ox king, Goku could not beat him, 5he only way they "beat" that challenge was by talking instead of violence.

[@seandobbins2231]

The reason why is Toriyama basically did a spoof of Journey to the West for the first arc of Dragon Ball.

[@christopherg2347]

@@seandobbins2231 "Thanks Gohan, we noticed." It was the very premise for my post.

[@seandobbins2231]

@@christopherg2347 to be fair, your comment reads like you just realized similarities between characters of the two stories, not that the first arc of DB was a spoof of Journey to the West, which is why I made my comment.

[@eddthehead123]

When Infinite Strength hit Infinite Strength, I was expecting the universe to explode.

[@171QA]

You should give Lego Monkie Kid a watch along with that old movie Havoc In Heaven. Both show Sun Wukong as a total badass.

[@jeffreygao3956]

I was looking forward to that battle becoming a thing and it did not dissapoint!

[@MrAuthor3DS]

This is practically a Saitama vs. Popeye type of battle - a super-strong guy versus what's essentially a _toon._

[@shuvodev7888]

After watching this do you want them to do other mythological characters in death battle? And what would that be? Sigurd vs Cadmus is a one I think can work

[@mikoartz5006]

ne zha vs Achilles

[@thegreattotemaster]

What about Loki VS Coyote VS Anansi? An absolute mindfuck of a battle between multiple trickster gods. :P

[@SuperAnime4444]

King Arthur vs Yamato Takeru Legendary royals with a mythical blade.

[@Felipe-Kuso]

I like Thor vs Susanoo

[@wesleydeleon2746]

What about Athena vs Tyr

[@daleketchup7434]

I was waiting for you to make a reaction to this video!

[@Mr.wednesdayallfather]

Who would have thought that the person that's seven times immortal would beat Hercules

[@ivanteoh930]

Acrually thousands layer of immortality remmeber he pills

[@javannicrawford7701]

I'm so glad to see you finally reacting to this

[@viroszelmire1391]

I would love to see more mythology death battles

[@tristinbranham6703]

Suprised you did a deathbattle reaction I don't see them a lot but this is a cool mixup

[@helious5056]

After watching this fight for the first time I thought it would be cool to see Sun wukong fight The American Folk hero Pecos Bill, little did I know that this line of thought would send me down a rabbit hole of Discovery and realization, realization that the story I was told for the entirety of my life about Pecos Bill seems to be completely unique to my family and no other version of the Pecos Bill story is really similar to the one It other than on a very base level In fact I've come to call my family's version of the Pecos Bill folklore the Folk Epic version due to this fact alongside just how long and detailed my family's version is with fully fleshed out arcs and everything They're even some elements that upon retrospect made me think that my family may have actually gotten inspiration from the Sun wukong in some way for our version of Pecos Bill like Pecos gaining what seems to be at least four levels of immortality and then fights off heaven and hell similar to The monkey King although pecos's stuff is in a completely different context And honestly that inspiration wouldn't be a surprise to me considering for one I come from a family of storytellers who love stories of all kinds from everywhere and for two do to how much my family's version takes influence from various mythologies, other pieces of folklore and even though classical literature with all these bits of inspiration being knit together neatly to create a tale about a man who truly was the greatest cowboy to ever live Now I'm in the process of remembering and talking to my various family members to reconstruct our full Pecos Bill story and get it written down for the first time to my knowledge and eventually get it released in some form or another So basically it would be awesome to see Pecos fight Wukong and my family's version may even win against the monkey king do to having a few direct counters to the monkey Kings abilities and having two edges that (to my knowledge) monkey king doesn't have a real answer to

[@Punaparta]

Yo, you should totally write that story down.

[@helious5056]

@@Punaparta I'm in the process of doing it right now and I'm currently still writing down the first Arc of the story which consists of several interconnected stories dealing with Pecos's childhood growing up being raised by coyote and dealing with various problems ranging from stopping a war between native tribes to fighting off the Nueva Mexico Cascabela Grande to save his first blood brother, best friend and trusty steed lightning (later renamed Widowmaker) and even the story on how Pecos got his name shortly after he was born by sneaking into his dad's stash of alcohol and drinking it all, by the way Pecos's Dad's alcohol had such ingredients like Pecos River water, three rattlesnake heads and even gunpowder, one of those things that Pecos has over The monkey King is a seemingly complete resistance to all poisons, venoms etc, in fact he actively seeks out the deadliest of the stuff to add to his alcohol

[@joseloayza502]

@@helious5056 It's excellent That sounds like Wukong, if all the gods make an anti-immortality poison, you can power up similar to the oven.

[@helious5056]

@@joseloayza502 totally although bill is surprisingly good with most of the gods, in fact in my family's version he was raised by two and is considered a demigod by some as a result, he even helped out Odin in one story but there are a few instances where Bill gets into a tussle with a god or God tier being which involved extraordinarily deadly poisons, in one of pecos's stories from my family he ends up in ancient Greece where he meets Hercules and gets into a scrap with him, Hercules tries using the Hydra blood soaked arrows on Pecos, which Pecos promptly eats and after the fight adds to his alcohol, there's also his various scraps with the devil including his first where he straight up drinks the devil under the table among other adventures

[@joseloayza502]

@@helious5056 Yes, that sounds like something level chapter 3 of JTTW, besides that Wukong spends drinking a large part of the chapters, except the 2 that he studies.

[@lucca7566]

I think is pretty clear sun wukong wins, he literally was so powerful that literals gods have to stop him Edit: and just a thing, this video is more mythologically accurate then the two Peter Jonhson

[@mikoartz5006]

nah hes so powerful he can create clones with equal power of him and those clones can create clones of equal power of those clones, wukong is fuckin broken too bad he sucks in most moba games or isnt as broken as broken champs

[@pogofgreed3707]

@@mikoartz5006 Reminded me of that trailer of Wukong: Black Myth or something.

[@Ruggderv]

He isn't titled "Equal of Heaven" for nothing.

[@lordtoomas]

@@pogofgreed3707 the title's backwards but yeah, pretty sure that's coming out early next year which is cool

[@user-lp8im7ow8s]

That sounds like a rip off of Kratos

[@zackfp0]

Finally I've been waiting for this one for a while 😁

[@bobbuilder6791]

Son wukong can literally make clones of enemies that are stronger than himself with the exact same power level of said enemy

[@MANGLORIOUS]

So it’s been a while since I’ve checked on this channel, but I highly recommend the TV show Lego Monkie Kid. It’s kinda like what the creators imagine would happen after Journey to the West, and it’s references are pretty accurate from my limited knowledge of the book. Plus, the animation is amazing, highly recommend.

[@lordtoomas]

not really based on it, more of a what-if sequel to it where the monkey king isn't very bothered fighting evil anymore so someone else inherits his powers in a neo futuristic setting

[@MANGLORIOUS]

@@lordtoomas ah right, I suppose I should correct that.

[@OpalDinosaur234]

Glad you did this!

[@satsuisama98]

finnaly you reacted to this fight

[@vladtheimpaler9577]

There's a Sun Wukong video game coming soon. You know you gotta review that.

[@damaruslove8688]

I can’t wait to get the black sun wukong game coming out

[@ahmedshaharyarejaz9886]

I was waiting to see this reaction.

[@iwanaga_sensei]

Ayyeee I've never thought my guy would react to this

[@cttommy73]

Sun Wukong, the monkey king is literally invincible and unkillable with powers greater then pretty much most god's and demons. To put the two together is like having an adult fight a kid. Monkey king wins all the time.

[@onceuponarevenant9409]

One of the most broken characters in Chinese fiction and possibly mythology? I seriously do like your analogy on this one, Sun Wukong is far stronger than his inspired clone Goku/Kakarot/Son Goku etc. and probably strong enough to defeat more than half of the heroes and villains from both Marvel and DC combined!

[@cttommy73]

@@onceuponarevenant9409 Oh, much, much, much more. The only one who could beat him was Buddha and no one else. That's saying something.

[@ilovecairns5181]

More like The Rock against a toddler

[@cradodragmire1563]

@@onceuponarevenant9409 I wouldnt call Goku a clone but he is very inspired. Gokus personality is generally the same, and they are monkey based. But I think his morals, and backstory differenciate him. Also I do think Wukong could beat Goku, Superman or Thor.

[@onceuponarevenant9409]

@@cradodragmire1563 maybe I went too far by calling Goku a clone, if one thing I have to give on Dragon Ball as a saga is by how great it is a telling a good story while not relying on its source of inspiration to sustain itself. Goku has gone a long way on character development. Last, I agree that Sun Wukong is too broken for this world, he would make a joke of anyone, except God. (Buddha)

[@zacharycloutier1]

Sun Wukong got decapitated once has a challenge and just made his head grow back and the four main dragons in the Taoist mythology are basically his bitch so a pretty easy fight

[@joseloayza502]

four main dragons= Alfred

[@zacharycloutier1]

@@joseloayza502 Even lower at least Alfred has respect from Batman

[@joseloayza502]

@@zacharycloutier1 ''This description agrees with the artistic representations of the dragon to the present day. The dragon has also acquired an almost unlimited range of supernatural powers. It is said to be able to camouflage itself like a silkworm or become as big as the entire universe. It can fly in the clouds or hide in the water (according to the Guanzi). It can form clouds, transform into water or fire, become invisible, or glow in the dark (according to the Shuowen Jiezi).''

[@justchillingdude]

Lol

[@craigwapples4200]

I’m so happy you doing this because I saw this and was like what ?

[@TheCoffeeMan19]

Yooooo new video :D love the videos btw

[@Metalseadraking]

Personally thinking, I think that Sun Wukong vs Heracles is interesting and both are very popular, Heracles vs Susanowo would be more fitting as both slayed multi headed sneks and less of an obvious stomp in favor for Wukong

[@DSzaks]

Sun Wukong, the original Mary Sue. I find it rather interesting how popular his story is in the "east" since he is basically never challenged by anything, (accept that one time w/ Buddha, and even then it was basically comes out of it unscathed). In most views of good storytelling such characters are viewed as rather boring, unrelatable, and uninteresting. Yet despite that they seem to love it over there.

[@joseloayza502]

Sun Wukong is a mistake in the matrix. As you say, characters like this are usually ignored, Superman has been without a movie for 10 years Wukong at the time of the 2020 pandemic had 6 movies. It's basically a story anti-story

[@loremipsum980]

Despite his extremely broken abilities, Sun Wukong was often shown struggling to defeat demons, monsters, and other beings during his journey to the west, and had to ask for support/backup from other characters such as the Chinese gods and Bodhisattvas, so he isn't really that almighty as he seems. Also, the journey and trials he went through, as well as his benevolent fatherly figure master transformed him from a wild, chaotic, and prideful monkey into a compassionate and righteous protector who fights for the greater good, so maybe that's why he isn't seen as that bad or boring of a god/character.

[@robbiewalker2831]

@@loremipsum980 I like that too. Wukong is a very interesting character, because he struggled to keep himself together on the journey he takes. Although his attitude equates to that of Kuzco from the Emperor’s New Groove, his interaction with the Tang Monk is similar to that of Kuzco’s interaction with Pacha, just that Pacha is not a dumbass in distress.

[@TGPDrunknHick]

@@loremipsum980 Wukong is part of the OP protagonist line of stories where the journey is less about gaining physical strength but, more developing as a person. it's an entirely different genre of writing compared to what most people expect from an action adventure style of tale.

[@cassidyjones2730]

The Journey to the West is all about Buddhism and developing as a person (and how Buddhism is better than Taoism and Confucianism). Sun Wukong’s arc is about maturing and valuing others over himself rather than can he beat the bad guy. Even so, the story does make sure to give him physical threats by nerfing him slightly, turning his compatriots against him, or by giving his opponents specific magic weapons or attributes that loophole their way past him. One of the most well-liked of the demons he defeats is the White Bone Spirit, who is laughably underpowered compared to Sun Wukong but manages to trick all his friends (specifically Tang Sanzang) into thinking he’s murdering innocent people, which has him sent away from the group for a bit, thus presenting a significant obstacle to Sun Wukong through deception rather than combat skill.

[@SantosOnFire]

I love you nerding out an happy on mythology.

[@michaelmcdoesntexist.]

I was wondering if you were going to talk about this episode of death battle

[@kaidenkilcrease]

YOO IT FINALLY UPLOADED

[@lane5686]

We asked and he delivered! Huge respek GOAT

[@baddragonite]

More reaction content would be cool to see

[@lynusjaylatosa4757]

Can you make a part 2 of every mythical innacuracy of god of war plssss notice me i really love you're explanation to this game

[@bowsir9115]

Btw, this gave me an idea. Maybe you could do a series of videos on the topic of who would win between certain mythological figures, such as Achilles Vs Cu Chulainn, Typhon Vs Surtr, or the obvious Zeus Vs Odin. I'd be very interested in your two cents on these debates.

[@mirzapramudya1580]

Wouldn't Rostam be a better opponent for Cú Chulainn?

[@JacobHall-1]

Hey I saw your God of War inaccuracy video and I thought it was great, but I would love to see how many inaccuracies a game called Spartan Total Warrior has. It was pretty cool to play but I am not sure on how accurate it portrays Greek Mythology!

[@blockerton1778]

There isn't a Disney movie on Sun Wukong but they do have a lego animated show based on him.

[@anselravenhart4753]

Sun Wukong is like if you took Loki's wit and powers and stuck them into a Thor's powerhouse of a body.

[@chipman1589]

They did a surprisingly good bit more research in this than a lot of their other vids

[@jeffreygao3956]

More like above and beyond already good research.

[@chipman1589]

@@jeffreygao3956 no

[@JulianRWR1]

I recommend you watch the channel "destripando la historia con Pascu y Rodri" (meaning: unraveling history with Pascu and Rodri) they make songs about old stories and myths. The songs are in Spanish but with English subtitles. The one on sun wukong is excellent

[@AugustoEL]

Jajaja me muero si hace reacciones de eso. Seria muy surreal muy pocas veces ves los de habla inglesa mirando cosas en español. Pero si estar cheto que lo haga

[@OPTIMUSVEST]

Ah yes my favorite youtuber……..this does put a smile on my face

[@doubledamn2599]

While I VERY much doubt that you have the time, I would love to see a Mythology Guy Retrospective on the Class of the Titans cartoon.

[@kirbymarchbarcena]

Only a few already knew that Sun Wukong would win against Heracles the moment Death Battle announced their fight.

[@BJGvideos]

Nah, people knew it would be a stomp.

[@joseloayza502]

At last, the most awaited video for Wukong fans.

[@Krysnha]

yes because many were but hurt when Goku lost, i am not angry that hercules, lost, i do not understad is why even bother, the guy has seven times inmortal, there was no way he loose, so these is not even a batlle is down rigth execution

[@joseloayza502]

Yes, that is to say, that approach to the apple would be better with Hercules: come on, wukong, kill me once and for all. 3 minutes saved.

[@Krysnha]

@@joseloayza502 I eman that, is wy do a battle so one sided, is there was no way the moneky king loose, so why not looking a more similar to hercules capacity, and these is not the first ime, that death battle is call, the last one i see was the predator vs boba fett, where they liiteraly take the most weaken yautja a just blooded one and of course he was going to loose, but put a veteran and maybe, i mean any one that know the mmyth of the monkey king new it was going to win

[@joseloayza502]

@@Krysnha Yes, the same Homelander vs Omniman. Omniman destroys planets with his body and Homalander for more power up that has problems with building level things.

[@Krysnha]

@@joseloayza502 indeed, but to be honest, is not the first time, there are videos showing that in some cases, since a while when you see the numbers and realize many of its figths were totaly imposible one sided, like Dra strange vs dr infiinite, well superman vs goku, i mean i understand that are requested but when you realize, is totaly one sided

[@tyrongkojy]

It's FINALLY up!

[@idongesitusen5764]

Love Death battles. Sun Wukong is the progenitor of power creep.

[@MrVictormonte]

What other Mythological Death Battles would you like to see? Zeus vs Odin? Thoth vs Athens?

[@fatherpucci8170]

Medusa vs Zahak the Serpent king (Greek mythology vs Persian mythology)

[@illam9500]

Yes! Finally!

[@BJGvideos]

If you get down to it, they did a pop culture mythology battle a while ago when they had two memetic badasses, Chuck Norris vs Segata Sanshiro, duke it out. Idk how you feel about "urban legends" as mythology but hey.

[@aidanmullard8508]

The bane rooster teeth came about from the first trailer for red vs blue. Where I think the narrator calls one of the characters "cock bite" and that became a small meme. So when the needed a proper name they thought about using it. But due to it being a swear, it got changed to rooster teeth

[@mcreeper1695]

Who would win A god of strength who has fought giants titans and monsters Or Monke

[@fatherpucci8170]

Hmmm monke

[@NewGuy2534]

Honestly, I feel this was one sided Sun’s way. I’d say a fair-er fight would’ve between Heracles and Cuchalainn.

[@theendersmirk5851]

I mean, in fairness, Heracles was basically Greek Chuck Norris with all the monsters he's credited at fighting, so he was definitely closer than most foes they could pick.

[@narwaler2898]

Death battles are more so about characters similarities than equivalences. Hercules is the most famous hero of the west and Sun wukong is the most famous hero of the East

[@joseloayza502]

@@theendersmirk5851 It is for Sun Wukong to fill up and make a new test of the forums vs. a closer sense more to Popeye or Saitama but in the case of memes like Chuck Norris a little more exaggerated more like Bruce Lee memes or memes of Ip man if we don't go to the toon-force sense. It is that really for Hinduism other level rules should be created -o ha- ∞ forum and that is difficult because the closest thing is a hare krisna that even reddit has fights between theology, especially in the Hindu cosmology maps Now Buddhism is born as a parody of these concepts, many terms could be changed by the Ineffable Parent, The Absolute and The Pope in terms. In turn, Wukong is born as a parody of this extended with Chan Buddhism or Chinese Buddhism mixed with Taoist concepts and Confucianism. That is, these 3 things need something totally apart from the famous level 0 of the forums vs. For what you mention itself, that is, I have at least 7 characters level Buddha, Shiva, Brahma, Visnu, krishna, Kali / Sakti, extra god Ganesha / Hanuman and another that is also worshiped Buddha is basically a Buddha complicated by so many branches of Buddhism and so many branches of Buddhism and even some branches of Western esotericism. And also in this is added the xianxia and things like Brahmāstra. And it also adds that the concept of Wukong is closer to Popeye, Saitama, Mask and a little Superman with respect to the aforementioned cosmologies.

[@kushalrai2732]

@@joseloayza502 didn't understand anything mam. 😭

[@joseloayza502]

@@kushalrai2732 It took me about 4 years to read the first chapters of JTTW because I was looking for everything on google.

[@ImADeity]

"Then Kratos got mad" Good way to summarize five games

[@ramirez7544]

I like how you said the end it's just credits yet there's Boba Fett and predator at the end

[@levydeat]

Before watching the DB video: uhhh Hercules vs a monkey god? Yea Hercules wins no sweat After watching: Hercules lasted as long as he did because Sun Wukong was having fun.

[@daivikfadtare1278]

Son wukong : I have shape-shifting, multiple folds of immortality, martial skills,magical abilities ,etc. What do you have ? Heracles: I...........workout ?

[@waytofall6980]

According to some Roman sources, while on his way to the garden of the Hesperides on the island of Erytheia, Hercules had to cross the mountain that was once Atlas. Instead of climbing the great mountain, Hercules used his superhuman strength to smash through it. Also, Heracles went to Atlas and offered to hold up the heavens while Atlas got the apples from his daughters.

[@justchillingdude]

@@waytofall6980Sun Wukong gained enlightenment and become Omnipotent at the end of the journey.

[@CasualVideoGamer]

"I was just talking about this!" (said like three or four times by the 12 minute mark) Imagine that.. a series about giving backstory to the characters mentioning the same popular tales that are mentioned in several versions.

[@orangesodaninja8882]

Could you make a skit on how it would really be like if they interact?

[@FussySky]

Son wu Kong has an ability to copy anyones power and then copy himself. So basically he is either as powerful as your or more then he can duplicate himself

[@thelonelystankmuncher8879]

This question may be out of topic but: mytho dude do you think the gods in elden ring in their prime can take on the Greek pantheon?

[@justchillingdude]

They can

[@neotheone5559]

Can you do more of these with osp and extra mythology

[@VioletJazz]

You should look at this Lego show called Monkie Kid! The monkey king himself is in it and there are a lot of references to the journey to the west story, but the show takes place in the modern day. It has amazing animation and a great opening theme and a blast to watch

[@Karlos1234ify]

Everyone have a nice day.

[@Lordmewtwo151]

After the inaccuracies in Disney's Hercules video, I'm surprised that you're referring to him as Hercules. 0:48 for example. 6:50 I don't remember Centaur blood being poisonous, but Nexus (or whatever his name is) was slain by the hydra-blood tipped arrow, so that poison got mixed into his bloodstream. Edit: if Dr. Dino's right, the Centaurs name is Nessus.

[@kaiser9109]

You do realize the only difference between them is one is Greek, Heracles and one Roman Hercules. The Roman one is more well known so I think that's why people use it

[@Lordmewtwo151]

@@kaiser9109 A valid point, but if you watch Mythology Guy's video on the mythical inaccuracies of Disney's Hercules, them using the Roman name is one of his pet peeves.

[@kaiser9109]

@@Lordmewtwo151 yeah I noticed it in other videos too, personally think he wants to stick with the Greek names because I notice him doing that for other Greco-Roman gods

[@kaiser9109]

Might be a pet peeve

[@Lordmewtwo151]

@@kaiser9109 I know, that's why I'm surprised Mythology Guy himself called him Hercules several times near the beginning of this video.

[@swordmonkey6635]

In the old myth, Sun Wukong doesn't write his name at the pillar at the edge of the universe. He urinated on it to mark it. Later, the Buddha opened his hand and it was moist with Sun Wukong's urine that the monkey could smell and know it was real.

[@phantomofmalus7054]

At a Con recently, they did entertain the idea of doing Zeus, The King of Olympus vs Odin, The Allfather

[@paxtonfletcher1264]

The fight was good, but I’m still disappointed that Hercules lost. Still, thanks for the reaction.

[@ladyvee2090]

Bruh. Hercules story literally ends with him dying. Sun Wukong is, counting each individual item and not lumping them together, basically immortal on thousands of levels. Literally everything the gods did to try and kill him _only made him stronger_ Hercules never stood a chance.

[@jeffreygao3956]

@@ladyvee2090 I guess dying means becoming a god.

[@ProfessionalNamielleLewder69]

The only thing that could reliably challenge Wukong was the Buddha, the single most powerful entity in mythology and religion. You know, the guy who broke out of the cycle of Samsara. The guy so beyond existence to the point where the physical world and the multiverse are just meaningless illusions to him. Yeah, that's the only guy who can curbstomp Wukong.

[@justchillingdude]

What about Jesus Christ? Hindu god of destructions shiva Brahma Vishnu.

[@ProfessionalNamielleLewder69]

​@@justchillingdude Buddha isn't even technically a person or deity, but a cosmic being that transcends every reality and idea, viewing them as nothing but an illusion. In fact, Siddhartha Gautama is only the most recent human who became a Buddha. Think an Outer God from Lovecraft (which is an apt comparison since _Secrets of Japan_ classifies Buddha as an Outer God). Jesus can liberate humanity from the concept of sin, but he cannot truly remove that concept since it's inherent to humanity's existence. Sin of Origin, and all that. The Trimurti are still aspects of Brahman symbolizing creation (Brahma), preservation (Vishnu) and destruction (Shiva). They are parts of something far greater than themselves. Buddha, meanwhile, is _impossible_ to even perceive. The only information we know about it is from its avatars, and even then not by much. What is known about it is that if Mara, the demon who successfully rules over all of creation and the eternal cycle of Samsara, couldn't even _touch_ Siddhartha Gautama, then that should be enough indication of how horrifying it is to go up against the real deal.

[@TGPDrunknHick]

@@ProfessionalNamielleLewder69 that's only because Budhism enforces that as a cosmological concept. Jesus/God is the be all end all of Christianity. There is in the Christian faith literally nothing above God. God is quite literally all powerful, all knowing and all present. which means yes sin as a concept can be obliterated. it is not done for varied reasons I'll not get into. From a Christian Perspective there is no Budhha. there cannot be a Budhha because humanity is incapable of transcending under it's own power. it's a completely opposed understanding of the universe and how it functions.

[@vandeech7272]

Has anyone seen the overly sarcastic productions retelling/summary of Journey to the west

[@Vivi-ob6zo]

Hey Mythology guy can you do a video on how accurate the Percy Jackson and the lightning thief musical I really love it but I want to see how accurate you think it is!

[@emeraldemperor2601]

Wouldn't Sun Wukong insta-win? I mean, his staff is, like, the weight of a neutron star.

[@Lordmewtwo151]

If Heracles held infinity, a mere neutron star wouldn't be much. That said, yes, S.W. does insta-win.

[@justchillingdude]

Sun Wukong staff weight more than that

[@justchillingdude]

@@Lordmewtwo151sun Wukong staff weight is basically beyond limitless.

[@Lordmewtwo151]

@@justchillingdude Iirc, DB said in the battle that the staff is the weight of a neutron star. Also, I was basing my statement on the initial parameters set by the OP. Even if the staff is only as heavy as a neutron star, Wukong has proven that he could lift an infinite amount of mass. So has Heracles, but Sun Wukong is also literally immortal.

[@KayclauShipper]

Question: So, I've heard before that there was a proto indo-european culture that had their own mythology that diverged over time and that's why so many indoeuropean myths sound familiar. Like, there's Heracles, Sanson, Thor and many other godly strong men from different cultures and they all might have a common origin. Now, I've also heard that the myth of Sun Wukong might have a common origin with Hanuman from Hindu mythology. If all of that is true, does that mean that Sun Wukong and Heracles are actually the same person?

[@joseloayza502]

Yes, they come together when Buddhism came to Greece and Zeus and other gods, even Ala were part of the devas who worshiped Buddha. Greco-Buddhism

[@BJGvideos]

I've heard that Heracles may have been based on a real king of Thrace.

[@thomasguerra4521]

Having watched BOTH of your episodes of both their mythologies!!! I mean how can you defeat someone with MULTIPLE layers of immortality!!! And they did show his club, he bashed his head in!!!

[@zachcromwell4776]

I didnt know the journey to the west was a movie. I will be watching them soon. I noticed there r 2.