Here’s how Merkur became Ford’s second-worst brand failure

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3 жыл бұрын

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In this episode I provide the history of Merkur, a sub-brand under Lincoln-Mercury between 1985 and 1990. Merkur only had two models, the XR4Ti and the Scorpio, both of which were imported from Germany. However their high prices and unusual looks eventually killed the brand, making it the second-worst brand failure Ford had, second only to the Edsel.

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@waywardboi
@waywardboi 3 жыл бұрын
My uncle was a Ford executive and so he always had different company cars and when he came over in the Scorpio I had to wash it because at the time it was the only excuse I could come up with to get behind that wheel and it was at the time the most luxurious and interesting car I had ever driven. It felt solid when most Fords outside of the panther cars felt sorta hollow.
@STSmithable
@STSmithable 3 жыл бұрын
Which panther?
@shogun2859
@shogun2859 2 жыл бұрын
@@STSmithable the panther platform. Aka Ford Crown Vic , Lincoln Town Car, Mercury Grand Marquis and Mercury Marauder.
@stephenrye6474
@stephenrye6474 2 жыл бұрын
Had an XR4TI and loved it.
@rockvilleraven
@rockvilleraven 2 жыл бұрын
@@stephenrye6474 Jim Rome owned one and talked about its problems on his sports talk radio show
@markjohnston3502
@markjohnston3502 2 жыл бұрын
And people loved the panther platform during that time. I
@Pickchore
@Pickchore 3 жыл бұрын
South Africa got a limited edition version with a Mustang V8. It's called the XR8
@Rouxenator
@Rouxenator 3 жыл бұрын
Die beste Sierra wat daar ooit gebou was.
@thecianinator
@thecianinator 3 жыл бұрын
@@Rouxenator yeah totally man
@dnfl-7168
@dnfl-7168 2 жыл бұрын
@@Rouxenator say less my guy
@isaacsrandomvideos667
@isaacsrandomvideos667 2 жыл бұрын
@@Rouxenator ar yeas
@robertsmith4830
@robertsmith4830 2 жыл бұрын
That was a mighty car, although the engine was so heavy that you had to be a little bit careful with your speed when going around corners, it just wanted to plow straight on at anything over 60kph. And the brakes weren't too good either. Didn't a road tester for Car magazine manage to total one of the press cars, or am I remembering that wrong?
@Gamer1st1
@Gamer1st1 2 жыл бұрын
I owned an 89. I live in an area with loads of hills and curvy roads. The 2.3l intercooled turbo was the perfect car for here. My only issue was having to turn or replace the rotors constantly despite downshifting the manual tranny. That and fuel pump failures. Outside of those issues it was the most fun driving car I’ve owned outside of some trucks I’ve hot-rodded. The XR4Ti stood for X Rally 4cyl turbocharged intercooled.
@joskjj3625
@joskjj3625 3 жыл бұрын
Guy in my neighborhood still drives a merkur xr4ti really cool to see it still running
@MrTheHillfolk
@MrTheHillfolk 2 жыл бұрын
My uncle had one, we rode in it a bunch when we visited him in Texas. I thought it was interesting , he was into it. 2.3 turbo was a decent engine , another buddy's dad had a new turbo coupe we got our mitts on but that's another story. Top speed was verified alot though. 🤣
@joskjj3625
@joskjj3625 2 жыл бұрын
@@MrTheHillfolk haha that’s awesome my uncle had a merkur xr4ti as well it was an electrical nightmare but then again my uncle bought it used in the late 90s so it was already falling apart
@culcune
@culcune 2 жыл бұрын
I wouldn't mind finding one and dropping in a 2.3 Ecoboost crate engine from Ford Performance Parts. Then again, the same thing could be done with an old 80s Fox Mustang or even a Pinto or Mustang 2.
@brianandrews7099
@brianandrews7099 2 жыл бұрын
The old Ford 2.3 Turbo were “quick, but sloppy”. Even with a carb or FI, they demand regular oil changes or they would sludge up and starve the overhead cam for oil. Adding the extra heat from the turbo just made the problem worse, along with the hard driving that one would assume a turbo charged “performance car” would be designed to endure, the engine just couldn’t survive. You can only go so far with cheap and dirty performance tricks on a Pinto/Mustang II 4 banger!
@maxfly7079
@maxfly7079 2 жыл бұрын
I bet Jim Rome, sports talk host, would do A podcast interview with him, and ask how, what, when on how he kept it running...maybe throw some cash his way too...just to find those secrets...He had A real Lemon one...has named his staff ... the xr4ti crew....lol
@lukerinderknecht2982
@lukerinderknecht2982 3 жыл бұрын
Love Merkurs! I saw a lady driving a Scorpio last weekend and I freaked out. Haven't seen one in decades. My dad bought an '88 Scorpio in the late 90's at a car auction. We had no idea about the brand or what we were getting into at the time, but it was really nice to drive and came with a lot of fancy features. Unfortunately it was prone to issues. The first time the flywheel broke, it took a few months before my dad could source one and install it. I still remember the day he drove it out of the garage after all his hard work repairing it -- he backed into our snow plow and scraped the driver's door 😆 Took equally as long finding someone who could work with the paint. Then the flywheel broke a second time. I ended up bringing one home from Germany when I was on an high school exchange. That was interesting - going to a Ford dealer with my limited language skills and asking for a "Schwungrad". We never ended up installing it, instead my dad sold it to a guy who was into Merkurs so I like to think that car still had some years on the road.
@simonlangner
@simonlangner 3 жыл бұрын
Nice Story! I live in Germany and they were common, regular 'ford' cars here. As a kid I liked these, too bad you don't see them anymore. My first car was also a ford, great driver cars👍😊
@KingPrintmaker
@KingPrintmaker 2 жыл бұрын
@@simonlangner i bought one for 2 grand. I had no idea what it was. It was awesome.
@simonlangner
@simonlangner 2 жыл бұрын
@@KingPrintmaker Sounds nice👍 How long did you keep it?
@szilardtoth8814
@szilardtoth8814 2 жыл бұрын
I saw few Merkurs, both of these privately imported used from America to Europe. I can also remember the british version named as Scorpio-Granada. From the continental european standpoint those were rare Fords to be seen.
@2006gtobob
@2006gtobob 3 жыл бұрын
I'm 49 and saw several of these as a kid and appreciated them because they were rear wheel drive and really sporty.
@gsxerwhite
@gsxerwhite 3 жыл бұрын
I’m 45 and I got to ride in one when my Dad test drove one. We both loved it but my Mom put a stop to him buying it because she wanted a four door
@obionemoreslice2479
@obionemoreslice2479 3 жыл бұрын
Ford Sierra here in the uk, the xr4i was good. The cosworth incredible! RS500 to die for!
@jeffreywhitlock4882
@jeffreywhitlock4882 3 жыл бұрын
I tried to talk my Dad into buying a Scorpio in 1988. They were very popular at the time, sporty with good performance. He bought a stylish Mercury Cougar with a vinyl top. He was right. He kept that car until 2002, never had any problems.
@justsumguy2u
@justsumguy2u 3 жыл бұрын
It wasn't just the price and the looks, it was legendary unreliability too. I worked with a guy that had one, bought it brand new in '88. In the 2 years he had it, it spent just as much time at the dealer as it did in his garage. He finally grew tired of the constant problems, and traded it in.
@LordInter
@LordInter 2 жыл бұрын
which is weird because in Europe it had a completely different engine, drive train, electric...... oooooh lol
@zythr9999
@zythr9999 2 жыл бұрын
lol
@akshonclip
@akshonclip Жыл бұрын
I bought one of these used when it was 4 years old. I had no issues with it and put 45k miles on it. 70k total miles when I sold it for the same price I paid for it.
@justsumguy2u
@justsumguy2u Жыл бұрын
@@akshonclip Yep, and somewhere in America there's a guy that drove a Yugo for 200K with nary a problem either. My point; you're the exception, not the norm.
@akshonclip
@akshonclip Жыл бұрын
@@justsumguy2u I beg to disagree. Your buddy was most likely the exception. Secondly I have first hand experience, you have third party hearsay
@xutxiamoua3455
@xutxiamoua3455 3 жыл бұрын
Sterling would definitely make a great video! Another good one I might suggest is Daihatsu. The last Japanese automaker to enter the US market and the first one to leave.
@JL-sm6cg
@JL-sm6cg 3 жыл бұрын
One of the reasons those two, as well as Peugeot, failed here due to bad parts supply chains. "Something broke on your 405 or 505, Monsieur? See you in 6 weeks." Daihatsus got so bad that Pep Boys wouldn't even touch them after a while.
@tonybucca5667
@tonybucca5667 3 жыл бұрын
DAE-WOOOO!!!
@gsxerwhite
@gsxerwhite 3 жыл бұрын
Damn. I haven’t heard that name in a while.
@JL-sm6cg
@JL-sm6cg 3 жыл бұрын
@@tonybucca5667 THAT'S the one that was such shit when it hit our shores! Not Daihatsu. They were actually alright.
@roberthoffhines5419
@roberthoffhines5419 3 жыл бұрын
The Sterlings were SWEET: great platform, lovely interior...British electronics and gizmos, ugh.
@jasoncarpp7742
@jasoncarpp7742 2 жыл бұрын
I remember the Merkur. I've known people who owned some. The XR4Ti and the Scorpio. I found them both to be awesome cars. Since I was too young at the time to drive a car, I couldn't say what they were like to drive or own. But those who I knew who owned them found them to be awesome cars, as reliable as you'd expect a car to be. The only thing we didn't appreciate about the cars was its name: Merkur. We were like *"What?!* *"What the hell is a Merkur?!"* or *"Where did that name come from?"* If it was a Ford car, we thought Ford should've sold it either as a Ford brand car, or possibly a Mercury brand car. But a "Merkur"? What?! The same was true for the Scorpio. It was a fun car to ride in and quite comfortable. I found it attractive from every angle, except from the rear of the car. I did like its appearance from the front and from the side of the car, reminding me of the Mercury Sable of the time. Why neither sold well here in the USA is beyond me. They were way better than the Ford, Lincoln, and Mercury cars that were already sold.
@williamegler8771
@williamegler8771 3 жыл бұрын
My parents had a XR4Ti and a Scorpio. Both were great driving vehicles when they weren't in the shop....
@steve-ph9yg
@steve-ph9yg 3 жыл бұрын
My brother in law had a XR4Ti it was just like my Ford Ranger great little vehicle when it was running or another way “runs good just don’t start”.
@dontdenymyrighteousnesstru5608
@dontdenymyrighteousnesstru5608 3 жыл бұрын
I have an xr4ti. You have never been so right my friend. This car stayed in the shop. Electrical problems, exhaust problems, overheating, you name it.
@bryede
@bryede 3 жыл бұрын
I knew a family who had 2 of them and yes, something was always breaking on them. One of them eventually ingested its turbocharger.
@decnijfkris3706
@decnijfkris3706 2 жыл бұрын
never had problems with Ford engines. We had Escort, Fiesta, Orion, Sierra, Granada, Mondeo, Transit, and a Fordson. Reason why my dad bought Ford.
@TassieLorenzo
@TassieLorenzo 2 жыл бұрын
@@dontdenymyrighteousnesstru5608 It's a Ford, what do you expect? :) All part of the fun!
@jackblakesley2103
@jackblakesley2103 3 жыл бұрын
As a Sterling owner, I would love a Sterling video.
@kellyvariste4831
@kellyvariste4831 3 жыл бұрын
The Merkur brand is truly a hidden gem I wish that the brand would have lived on a little longer.
@MaximilianvonPinneberg
@MaximilianvonPinneberg 3 жыл бұрын
Sadly the FORD world cars followed. So would be relevant.
@krane15
@krane15 3 жыл бұрын
@@MaximilianvonPinneberg It was a simple mistake of marketing, not design.
@OhPhuckYou
@OhPhuckYou 2 жыл бұрын
Ehh. We ended up getting German Ford's later on. They were just marketed as Ford's. My Fusion is a real "Fusion". German/American engineering, Mexican built, with a mixture of German, Mexican, and American parts. The Fiestas and Focus's were just Mexican built German Ford's, the last two gen Ford Escapes are American built German Ford Kugas. Now all we have from Ford Germany are the Escape, and the Indian built EcoSport.
@ablair37
@ablair37 2 жыл бұрын
if it had the focus would most likely be a merkur as well as fiesta and the european kuga and i bet the puma would of gone over too to
@fredaydaybae8450
@fredaydaybae8450 2 жыл бұрын
I too wish the brand would’ve lasted longer because the name did indeed sound upscale and it rolls off the tongue so easily if you know what you’re talking about. They had plans to bring the Sierra Sapphire here as the next Merkur car but alas it never happened. Just think if it had come here though, it would’ve been great to go alongside the luxurious Scorpio. I honestly think the wrong ppl are running these damned car companies. Merkur’s demise really makes me sad to this day 🥲
@jameskelley4089
@jameskelley4089 3 жыл бұрын
Had an 86 XR4TI and added a Rapido group intercooler. Great power and handling! Traded when second child came along. Always liked the styling of the Capris and Granadas back in the 70's.
@Marchant2
@Marchant2 3 жыл бұрын
I remember as a kid being able to say "Merkur: correctly and absolutely loving these cars. I wanted one really badly because I thought they were unique and ahead of their time. Plus I like the way they looked.
@jimmccormick6091
@jimmccormick6091 3 жыл бұрын
I don't know if anyone had any issue pronouncing "Merkur".... if they did, chances are they were not in a position to buy one.
@Redmenace96
@Redmenace96 2 жыл бұрын
Me too. It looked like the future.
@yakacm
@yakacm 2 жыл бұрын
These cars were massive sellers here in the UK, there was Cosworth versions of both the Sierra and Scorpio. The Scorpio was also know as the Granada in Europe, think the Scorpio was just the more luxury version. The saloon was known as the Sapphire, the Cosworth Sapphire were really quite common and very fast for the day, I think they made about 200Bhp which was really good for that era, as the car was pretty small and light, well by US standards anyway, it was looked at as a decent sized car in Europe, as we are used to driving really small cars.
@adamtrombino106
@adamtrombino106 3 жыл бұрын
What I recall about these cars were a couple things. A. Sky high price tag. B. You couldn't get parts, at least the ones to fix the Euro portion of the car. I remember that though certain Lincoln Mercury dealers would be happy to sell you 1, their service depts wouldn't touch them beyond oil changes...
@JDMHaze
@JDMHaze 3 жыл бұрын
sheesh i figured, Mini American cars are on European platform/architecture hence expensive repairs The parts availability and intensive labor
2 жыл бұрын
whilst working as a jockey for Lincoln in 1987, I drove several XR4Tis and Scorpios. Those were fantastic cars.
@shanewaller2864
@shanewaller2864 3 жыл бұрын
Hi I own the white ford sierra 2.0 ghia estate in your video .I'm in London England .I bought the car 6 +years ago as a stock car and transformed it in to a full cosworth replica estate including all the running gear .she now has a full yb cosworth turbo engine from HARTPOWER putting out in excess of 400 bhp .a far cry from the 115 bhp 4 cylinder pinto engine she left the factory with. I recently did a you tube video with Adam Smith on my cosworth sierra estate F20YBT be sure to check it out .👍
@1962delia
@1962delia 3 жыл бұрын
I remember the first time I ever saw a new Merkur Xr4ti. It was unique, you could tell it was a German car. Always wanted one, but unfortunately, it never happened. But I do have it's cousin, '84 Mustang SVO!
@greasyrib
@greasyrib 2 жыл бұрын
The SVO was better. At least it got a baby intercooler.
@1984xlx
@1984xlx 2 жыл бұрын
I had an 84 SVO as well. Very powerful for it's time. I also worked at a Ford dealership in the 90's and had an opportunity to work on and drive some of the XR4TI's. They are completely different feeling vehicles which surprised me. I thought they would be more similar.
@ChipmunkRapidsMadMan1869
@ChipmunkRapidsMadMan1869 2 жыл бұрын
@@1984xlx XR4TI had a degree of road feel that made most American cars feel like waterbed mattresses or like go carts. Mine would leave almost anything American in the bends.
@ChipmunkRapidsMadMan1869
@ChipmunkRapidsMadMan1869 2 жыл бұрын
@@greasyrib mine had an intercooler
@greasyrib
@greasyrib 2 жыл бұрын
@@ChipmunkRapidsMadMan1869 they didn't come with stock intercooler. If there was one it was likely grafted from an SVO or a Turbo Coupe, Or a Rapido Unit if it was up front.
@lawrencetaylor5407
@lawrencetaylor5407 3 жыл бұрын
I knew this woman when I was 19 and she asked me: "Hey, do you know this car called an Exeratti? Is it a good car?" Me: "Exeratti? Never heard of it. Sounds Italian" Later, she pointed out an Xr4ti.
@KenVic02
@KenVic02 3 жыл бұрын
My buddy's sister had one back then and she was asked the very same question by someone while she was at a gas station!
@ChipmunkRapidsMadMan1869
@ChipmunkRapidsMadMan1869 3 жыл бұрын
Two of my girlfriends asked me that exact same question.
@arx3516
@arx3516 2 жыл бұрын
Xr4ti, the car for Executive Rats!
@ChipmunkRapidsMadMan1869
@ChipmunkRapidsMadMan1869 2 жыл бұрын
@@arx3516 SMH.
@Steven-xd5kn
@Steven-xd5kn 2 жыл бұрын
Thought it was XRATi too at first lol. The 4 kind of looked like an A lol.
@SteelskinDMC
@SteelskinDMC 2 жыл бұрын
I remember seeing a Scorpio up close for the first time around '95. It was at an auto auction, steering column all busted up, likely having been stolen and recovered. Just falling apart inside. It was so beautiful but in such a sad state.
@spoon072000
@spoon072000 3 жыл бұрын
I had a white '86. What a fun car. A little under-powered but it had exceptional handling. And a fun little joystick to position the stereo's fader/balance.
@enkimerlin3209
@enkimerlin3209 3 жыл бұрын
I really really wanted one of the XR4ti's when i was a kid, at the time they looked so damn cool. I t was about the closed we ever got to that rally Escort back then
@landlockedcruiser
@landlockedcruiser 3 жыл бұрын
I had an 88' XR4TI and loved it and the Scorpio! Its what turned me onto German cars and haven't looked back! And would buy another if they ever came back!
@mattern1974
@mattern1974 3 жыл бұрын
Outstanding! I always wanted an XR4Ti!! Thank you for the trip down memory lane!!
@GB-nf5st
@GB-nf5st 3 жыл бұрын
The post-XR4i (usually called "saloon" in the UK) performance Sierra model in the UK was usually referred to as the Sierra Cosworth, and featured 4-wheel drive. When the Sierra was replaced in Europe by the Mondeo there was no XR4i or Cosworth replacement. The 1992 Escort Cosworth for Europe was the spiritual and performance successor and actually used a development of the Sierra Cosworth Chassis over a hand-built Escort-style body.
@RoxanneBarbelo
@RoxanneBarbelo 3 жыл бұрын
I love my 1989 Ford/Merkur Sierra Xr4ti
@ydnallah1541
@ydnallah1541 3 жыл бұрын
In the UK we got scorpios and sierras with cosworth engines. The Scorpio had a 2.9L cosworth V6 and you could get a sierra RS cosworth , RS500 or the Sierra sapphire cosworth (sedan version) with the YBD engine and 4x4 or RWD. The RS500 in moonstone blue is my favourite ever car, aside from a Ferrari F40
@LordInter
@LordInter 2 жыл бұрын
my brother had an xr4i, the thing was a monster 😊
@Tf14773
@Tf14773 2 жыл бұрын
I prefer the white on the sierras
@ablair37
@ablair37 2 жыл бұрын
dont forget the escort xr3i and cosworths and the rear of the rare xr3i orion which my gran had she traded it in for a mitsubishi gallant
@ydnallah1541
@ydnallah1541 2 жыл бұрын
I used to have an Orion 1600e, with a 2.0L N/A ZVH (Zetec-CVH hybrid) engine. Had uprated cams, full 4 branch manifolds, forged internals and all the other port/polish etc. Was about 175bhp at the wheels. It was a really good sleeper car.
@itisjustacomment
@itisjustacomment 2 жыл бұрын
Ford really well in the UK. Now the Cosworth, sapphire, 4x4 etc are worth a great deal of money for a 30-year-old car.
@richardclark5187
@richardclark5187 3 жыл бұрын
I bought one new in the late 80s, on a dealer closeout for about 15k. It was a fun car, that i feel was ahead of its time, getting many compliments over the years. The biggest drawback were expensive parts and the Lincoln Dealerships, rolling their eyes, when i brought it in for service, because they didn't want to deal with them, especially after they had been discontinued in the US. !!!
@johnmcmullen456
@johnmcmullen456 3 жыл бұрын
I tried to get a deal on a new leftover XR4Ti in 1987 but no dice. I told salesman I could do a lot better on a new Mustang GT. He said go for it. So I did at the competing Ford dealership. Did me a big favor!
@richardclark5187
@richardclark5187 3 жыл бұрын
@@johnmcmullen456 indeed he did. I'm guessing your Mustang was much more Reliable and Cheaper to fix, then my XR4TI, ever dared to be !!
@corvetcoyote443
@corvetcoyote443 3 жыл бұрын
I always loved the XR4TI and Scorpio!,but like the Tucker of 1948,they were great engineerd cars that were to ahead of it's time.
@Zanelander
@Zanelander 3 жыл бұрын
So far, I'm in love with the compact car scene. Especially these Euro cars. Don't have to worry about having a V8 when you have a stylish (and cute) car with a turbo 4 or a diesel lol
@MrTheHillfolk
@MrTheHillfolk 2 жыл бұрын
Ever since I was like 14 and this dude took me for a ride in an 83 GTI, I hadda have one. I woulda never believed if I didn't experience it, but it would toast late model 5.0s till about 65-70mph. Of course the brain was working on how much more power vs how much more you could hold the gap for.
@LordInter
@LordInter 2 жыл бұрын
@@MrTheHillfolk which gti the golf? because Peugeot also did a load of gtis too
@MrTheHillfolk
@MrTheHillfolk 2 жыл бұрын
@@LordInter Yep it's the only GTI we got here in the states.
@LordInter
@LordInter 2 жыл бұрын
@@MrTheHillfolk oh no, you missed out on the peugeot 205 and 405 GTis, better handling and larger engines (eventually) arguably one of the best handling cars of the 80s and 90s the 205, 19.ltr engines in a car weighing about 10lbs or something :)
@MrTheHillfolk
@MrTheHillfolk 2 жыл бұрын
@@LordInter yeah but we didn't get any of those in the states.
@papa_pt
@papa_pt 3 жыл бұрын
if only they gave it a decent engine like the Sierra Cosworth
@decnijfkris3706
@decnijfkris3706 2 жыл бұрын
strange we had a Sierra 20i and it rand very smooth. How fast do you drive on normal streets?
@papa_pt
@papa_pt 2 жыл бұрын
@@decnijfkris3706 too fast. It was a half baked sports car.. No intercooler or lsd, drum brakes, sohc. Almost cost as much as the 325i at the time. I'm sure it was smooth at the time 😂
@tonysilliker5977
@tonysilliker5977 2 жыл бұрын
There was nothing wrong with the FORD V6 Essex engine whatsoever. Dropped plenty of Granada and Capri V6,s into Cortina,s and swapped the front wiring harness for the injection system into them.. The XR4i was just a engine carried over from them..
@tonysilliker5977
@tonysilliker5977 2 жыл бұрын
An if you really want to be brave a Windsor V8 drop's straight in on the mountings with a bell housing swap.
@papa_pt
@papa_pt 2 жыл бұрын
@@tonysilliker5977? The merkur had the non intercooler turbo 4
@BriteFrog
@BriteFrog 3 жыл бұрын
Great video, I'll be waiting for that Sterling video. I had a coworker in the late '80's that drove one, and really loved it...Seems like I remember it being a venture between Rover and Honda.
@sporkfindus4777
@sporkfindus4777 2 жыл бұрын
Nice video. I liked that you covered the European range and versions at the end. The Scorpio in Europe was actually a trim level of the mk3 Ford Granada, and there was also a 2.9i V6 Cosworth version. The Granada name was dropped for the unloved mk4 in favour of the Scorpio name. The original 3 door Cosworth Sierra ("the Cossie") was, I understand, the most stolen car in the UK in the 1980s, mainly for joyriding. This was replaced by the 4 door Sierra Sapphire Cosworth saloon, which was slightly tamer and more respectable looking, but just as lovely.
@TheMotocrossVault
@TheMotocrossVault 3 жыл бұрын
The word “ marque” is actually pronounced “mark”. The pronunciation you are using is for the similarly spelled “marquee” as in a theater marquee. 👍🏻
@deliuslyndon8340
@deliuslyndon8340 3 жыл бұрын
You beat me to it!!
@bjrnpost4633
@bjrnpost4633 3 жыл бұрын
I heard it as «marquis», which fit well with a couple car models. Means a sort of count or lower noble title.
@geraldscott4302
@geraldscott4302 3 жыл бұрын
Marquis has long been a Mercury name. I have a 2006 Mercury Grand Marquis.
@deliuslyndon8340
@deliuslyndon8340 3 жыл бұрын
@@geraldscott4302 But that's not what he is saying. At 0:25 the narrator says "...the end result were [sic] two cars with a name no one could pronounce, and a failed MARQUE [meaning a make of car] after only four years." Not Marquis.
@geraldscott4302
@geraldscott4302 3 жыл бұрын
@@deliuslyndon8340 Yes, marque does mean "brand" But the word ""marquis" however you spell it was mentioned too. As for why nobody could pronounce it, I never understood that. They pronounced it clearly in the commercials. I remember back in the '70s when nobody could not pronounce "Isuzu" either. I never owned one, but I actually kind of liked that car. It had 2 doors, rear wheel drive, and a manual transmission. Could have been a lot of fun. Might have succeeded with a different name.
@mdavid7149
@mdavid7149 3 жыл бұрын
Subbed. NOBODY talks about merkur or sterling! The cars not the diesel trucks!
@seeingeyegod
@seeingeyegod 2 жыл бұрын
We had a Scorpio when I was a kid, after the brand had died and they were trying to unload them all. I think my Dad paid 16 grand? And he got them to give him the Mercedes trade in value later :) Used to love showing off the electrically reclining rear seats to my friends.
@mista414
@mista414 3 жыл бұрын
Never knew much about these, someone in my dorm about 10 years ago had a red XR4TI and I remember being puzzled at it looking like a Ford (having been familiar with those Cosworth models from racing games) but having the name Merkur. Never looked into it but now I know! Thanks.
@wwetnabamafan194
@wwetnabamafan194 3 жыл бұрын
It was this car where Jim Rome gave his radio crew it's name. They're called the XR4Ti because Rome bought that car to make him look cool, but then it turned into a piece of crap.
@DickotheClown
@DickotheClown 3 жыл бұрын
I always remember this as the starter car for Midnight Club 2, the cocotte
@danven1256
@danven1256 3 жыл бұрын
I can remember when they arrived at the dealership I worked at. The XR4TI was a fun car to drive. We had previously dealt with the 2.3L turbos that had carburetors and had a lot of issues with drivability. So it was a nice change to have a decent fuel injection system and turbocharger even though it still had a pinto motor. Of course there was the big issue with the leather upholstery shrinking to the point that it would split. We did a lot of upholstery kits on that car. The Scorpio on the other hand did not sell well at all. I think I remember maybe two at the dealership. The first one was given to the local newspaper for a review. That didn't go well. The key which was shaped like an old 18th century skeleton key broke off in the door. It sat in the corner of the shop for weeks waiting for a duplicate key because there was nobody that could make one. I'd be willing to bet that today you can't get one at all.
@tancar2004
@tancar2004 3 жыл бұрын
The apartment building I lived at 10 years ago. There were 3 of them lined up in the long term parking lot. It's only because I drove by them everyday that I even knew this brand existed.
@Gabesafish
@Gabesafish 3 жыл бұрын
I’d love to see a video on the AMC/Renault Alliance and Encore. I had an 86 Alliance 1.7. It was light, somewhat peppy and tossable for the time, however; the built quality and materials were dismal. I always wanted to drive the final performance iteration, the 2.0L GTA coupe.
@The_sinner_Jim_Whitney
@The_sinner_Jim_Whitney 3 жыл бұрын
My buddy had an XR4Ti in high school. It was a great-running, good-handling car for (back then) cheap. Pretty fast outright, but downright hot on a country road. Great car, too bad they were such hunks of crap, haha!
@jonsimcoe
@jonsimcoe 3 жыл бұрын
I subscribed after the first minute. Keep it coming. Love the obscure car culture.
@jediknightjairinaiki560
@jediknightjairinaiki560 2 жыл бұрын
I've always really liked the look of the XR4TI. It would be great to have one now.
@runoflife87
@runoflife87 3 жыл бұрын
The biggest problem with the XR4TI was: the basic car - Sierra- never meant to be the main BMW competition in Europe (OK maybe Cosworth version) . But the basic 3-door Sierra could've been a great car to compete with Tempo/Topaz coupe actually. The Sierra brochure You used in this video is definately not from Germany.
@589steven
@589steven 3 жыл бұрын
Yes, it was in Dutch.
@whynotagain3639
@whynotagain3639 3 жыл бұрын
They should have imported the faster and nicer looking fast British Sierra, the Cosworth. think the Cosworth badge would have made a difference plus the car is faster and nicer looking. Ford should then have imported all the RS badged fords of UK too, the Escort RS Turbo, the original Fiesta RS Turbo and the 1990's sedan Sierra called the Sapphire Cosworth which was also 4x4 and also not forgetting the legendary Escort RS Cosworth. If Ford had offered those models and maybe changed the name to Cosworth or even just not created a new sub brand but just brought the European/British XR and RS sports badges for standard Ford models, I'm sure they'd have been a success.
@christopherconard2831
@christopherconard2831 3 жыл бұрын
I believe they wanted to import the more powerful version, but couldn't get it to pass federal emission tests. Edit: I doubt it would have saved the Mekur line, but if they could have found a way they could have more aggressively gone after Saab or entry level BMW customers.
@Soundsofthewood
@Soundsofthewood 3 жыл бұрын
The problem with that was Ford didn't want anything to bypass the mustang gt. That's why the svo was de-tuned. That got screwed up in the 90's with the taurus sho. I want to buy a merker, but they are pricey now.
@davidpistek6241
@davidpistek6241 3 жыл бұрын
@@Soundsofthewood ,so it was like how the Corvette had to get the most power for a long time with gm with the exception of the gmc syclone, svo mustang's are sweet and really rare now and the turbo 4 had potential to out power the 5.0 if it was gnx style tuned from Ford
@Soundsofthewood
@Soundsofthewood 3 жыл бұрын
@@davidpistek6241 yup. The 5.0's would bust the block in half if gone past 450hp. They only way to get past that then was to lie to the parent company. They don't want the flagship car to be less then anything else in the lineup. That really messed with pontiac till they went under.
@davidpistek6241
@davidpistek6241 3 жыл бұрын
@@Soundsofthewood the ford 4t was killing sportscar racing and exhibited alot of potential a hot xr4ti would have been really interesting especially with the Japanese bringing turbo cars in in droves and mopar running omni glh and the Buick 3.8t ,also wasn't the ta gta turbo faster than the Corvette,,,one year or was the zr1 out then
@cesarhuesca2017
@cesarhuesca2017 3 жыл бұрын
My first car was a 92 Ford Tempo, use to be my parents, they bought it new and was given to me! Love a vid on the tempo! Such an amazing car! I had a baby blue colored one.
@JakeBourne13
@JakeBourne13 2 жыл бұрын
When I was about 12 I got to hang out with my older brother and one of his friends for the night. His friend had a XR4T and I had never heard of these. After the turbo hit I fell in love with the car lol His dad had 2 sitting in the yard for years, wish I would’ve snatched one up.
@trigbiggers4492
@trigbiggers4492 3 жыл бұрын
I had an 88 Merkur Scorpio. Much cooler than a Taurus, but had catastrophic issues with only 30k miles. I doubt there's a drivable Scorpio out there
@DaewooFestiva23
@DaewooFestiva23 3 жыл бұрын
There are at least 100-500 left, many have been spotted on the road on Instagram and one was on sale recently on cars and bids
@987654321wormy
@987654321wormy 3 жыл бұрын
I had an 88 Scorpio as well. I must have gotten one of the only ones without issues. Pretty much bullet proof until it got to 189k miles on it, then I couldn't keep it out of the shop. I loved that car tho.
@beckigreen
@beckigreen 2 жыл бұрын
@@DaewooFestiva23 Wrong.
@EvilSSP
@EvilSSP 3 жыл бұрын
Despite the piss poor marketing, these were awesome cars. You could make 300hp at the wheels very easily with basic bolt ons.
@ThePeachtree69
@ThePeachtree69 3 жыл бұрын
Street Turbo magazine ran an article on one of these with a 300z turbo motor. Super vehicle with competent handling above the 300Zx capability is how they described it. Still ...just a great personality.
@grahaigh
@grahaigh 3 жыл бұрын
The Sierra was available in estate form from the start of its in run in 1982/3. The saloon was introduced in 1987 after the whole range was facelifted.
@jblude01
@jblude01 3 жыл бұрын
You should do a video on the Acura Vigor! My '93 was one of my favorite cars.
@khalifgreen581
@khalifgreen581 3 жыл бұрын
This car was still on the road when I was stationed in Germany in the army.
@DerekKnop
@DerekKnop 2 жыл бұрын
Growing up, my best friend's dad had an xr4ti. HE got it in college and all those years later it was still in good condition. We took it one summer and rebuilt it as a fathers day gift for him so he could drive it again. I loved working on that car, I loved driving that car, and I want an xr4ti so much now.
@everythinggrowsyaheard
@everythinggrowsyaheard 3 жыл бұрын
Not quite sure how I just found this channel now, but glad I'm here!
@Pillowbiter84
@Pillowbiter84 3 жыл бұрын
That XR4TI was a great car....a German Version of a Mustang SVO.
@leeh-xh1iw
@leeh-xh1iw 3 жыл бұрын
Didn't The SVO had more hp than the GT Mustang?
@marcomoreno8188
@marcomoreno8188 3 жыл бұрын
U got bv that right as ccx well as my '88 third turbo coupe.
@bobbyrobertson7641
@bobbyrobertson7641 3 жыл бұрын
Handled 20psi, no problem. Hilariously fast, and a joy to beat V8's with ease.
@termallwilliams8510
@termallwilliams8510 3 жыл бұрын
Yes it was!!! My mom loved this car. It was the first car she purchased with her own money. It was sharp!!!
@gsxerwhite
@gsxerwhite 3 жыл бұрын
I thought they were cool as hell when I was a kid. I used to call them “exerati’s” lol
@RedNekLvr22
@RedNekLvr22 3 жыл бұрын
I loved the Scorpio. Practical and still had a sedan look to it even though it was a hatchback.
@justinharper443
@justinharper443 3 жыл бұрын
The merkur xr4ti is one of the best fords ever made especially for the era. Way better than a foxbody stock for stock. I've had 10 of them . They're fantastic cars but today parts are very hard to get even engine parts are getting harder to find as the 2.3 lima is almost 40 years old and the aftermarket support isn't there. Most parts have to be imported still. I swapped my last xr4ti drivetrain into my 73 capri. That 2.3 turbo is a good combo in the little capri.
@deathtowrestling2518
@deathtowrestling2518 3 жыл бұрын
If you've had 10 of them that shows what an unreliable piece of shit the XR4ti is.
@scgoatman
@scgoatman 2 жыл бұрын
I was in love with the XR4ti from the moment that I saw it. I got to drive an extensively used one in 1992 and it still had a lot of pep. The handling was good for the time too.
@nineislandshuffle6599
@nineislandshuffle6599 3 жыл бұрын
When I was a kid I wanted one of these. Lol. I'm glad I was too young at the time to make that mistake.
@whynotagain3639
@whynotagain3639 3 жыл бұрын
I bet you'd still want the proper Sierra RS Cosworth though, which is what should have been imported at the time. They're mega bucks now, an RS500 with 42,000 miles on the clock for sale on the UK auto trader site now for £88,950 ($123,506). The more common Sapphire Cosworth (sedan Sierra) go for minimum £30,000+ with over 100,000 miles on the clock.
@whoami7721
@whoami7721 3 жыл бұрын
I remember being 11 and 12 years old and wanting one of these. I thought that Sterling car was pretty stylish, too. Little did I know they weren't great cars.
@IrishWannabe
@IrishWannabe 3 жыл бұрын
they are great cars actually, in europe they were called the Sierra - they were extremely popular, used as family cars and race cars and drift cars, they could literlly be everything
@whoami7721
@whoami7721 3 жыл бұрын
@@IrishWannabe I was reading how compared to it's Japanese cousin, the Acura Legend, the Sterling had loads of quality control issues. Even simple things like gas gauges not working and the glove box getting stuck. Not something you'd expect in a car of that cost.
@JDMHaze
@JDMHaze 3 жыл бұрын
lmaoo
@bh2155
@bh2155 3 жыл бұрын
I always thought these were sharp looking cars back in the day. The Xr4ti looked great in black
@krane15
@krane15 3 жыл бұрын
All black with the painted bumpers.
@davekennedy6315
@davekennedy6315 3 жыл бұрын
These were very well loved Ford's this side of the pond. Here in the UK buyers loved the Sierra (the UK/European name) especially the XR4i, XR4x4 and the legendary Cosworths (RS500, hatchback Cosworth and saloon Sapphire Cosworth and 4x4 Sapphire Cosworth) The Cosworths had their spiritual home in my home county Essex along with all fast Ford's (XR2, XR3i, XR2i, RS turbo, Escort Cosworth and RS200 etc.)
@jimmccormick6091
@jimmccormick6091 3 жыл бұрын
There was a guy in NE Ohio who had an XR4Ti that he dropped a Mustang SVO engine into.... That car was something else.
@nolahahnshouse3389
@nolahahnshouse3389 3 жыл бұрын
I would love to import a cosworth to the state's! Mazda miata history next.. like there's not a thousand of those out on KZbin already lol
@95blahblahhaha
@95blahblahhaha 3 жыл бұрын
I probably would have bought the 4 door over the coup and if it was named Ford as well
@MountainDewComacho494
@MountainDewComacho494 3 жыл бұрын
When I was in college, I was sent a floppy disk that contained a presentation on how great the Merkur XR4TI was. The presentation compared the Merkur to a BMW and Mercedes.I just remember thinking how weird it looked. It also gave me the impression that it was called a Mercury Merkur XR4TI. I didn’t clue in that the Merkur was its own brand.
@dyngbld
@dyngbld 2 жыл бұрын
We had an 81 Chevy Citation. They are were very popular and we saw them everywhere. I have not seen one on the road in years. I will never forget the sideways AM Radio. It was also the first front wheel drive car we owned, the transverse engine was something different we had not worked on before.
@kaischmidt8030
@kaischmidt8030 3 жыл бұрын
Maybe if it had more spoilers and pillars.
@therealgaragegirls
@therealgaragegirls 3 жыл бұрын
Definitely need more spoilers.
@damarisvazquez6253
@damarisvazquez6253 3 жыл бұрын
Bob Lutz. The man when at GM (90's?) said they engineer their vehicles to last 70k miles.
@redneck4528
@redneck4528 3 жыл бұрын
He was at Chrysler then, but who cares about details right?
@tedpendagast579
@tedpendagast579 3 жыл бұрын
Back then 70,000 miles with no major Mech’s bucks problems was actually pretty good Now you don’t even change your plugs until 100k
@mikemiller7957
@mikemiller7957 2 жыл бұрын
Didn't even mention the awesome handling fully independent rear suspension provided. Neither mustang or Camaro could touch it in the twisties ! Best Ford I ever bought!
@Glenn_123
@Glenn_123 3 жыл бұрын
You do a great job with these videos! Really love them! How about the Dodge Ram 50 or Chevy S10
@Unknown-ht6jy
@Unknown-ht6jy 3 жыл бұрын
You should try the brand sterling
@Durahan82
@Durahan82 3 жыл бұрын
Sterling Trucks ?
@Unknown-ht6jy
@Unknown-ht6jy 3 жыл бұрын
@@Durahan82 no
@Unknown-ht6jy
@Unknown-ht6jy 3 жыл бұрын
@@Durahan82 Sterling was a brand name of automobile marketed in the United States by Austin Rover Cars of North America
@Unknown-ht6jy
@Unknown-ht6jy 3 жыл бұрын
@@Durahan82 the brand only lasted 4 years and they only sold the Sterling 825 and the Sterling 827.
@CodyDoesIt
@CodyDoesIt 3 жыл бұрын
Can we do one on he Dodge Monaco? My step dad got one and it never ran lol.
@Pablo-sr2zx
@Pablo-sr2zx 3 жыл бұрын
I take it you're an American no offence but most of the cars back then were hideous so they tried to steal the XR4I and rebrand it and bollocks that up
@CodyDoesIt
@CodyDoesIt 3 жыл бұрын
@@Pablo-sr2zx I was a strange car that sat in the driveway.....
@erikbunty2016
@erikbunty2016 2 жыл бұрын
Was it the one based on the Eagle Premier?
@fisherdigital
@fisherdigital 3 жыл бұрын
I really enjoy your channel. I'm not really a car guy I really enjoy the every Man's car cuz it's all we have thank you
@georgeh6856
@georgeh6856 3 жыл бұрын
I loved the XR4Ti's looks. The double spoiler was so distinctive. A guy I worked with in the mid-1990s had one. I didn't know him well, so I never got to ride in it.
@danieleregoli812
@danieleregoli812 3 жыл бұрын
Except they were far better builds than the US built Fords, and actually more advanced.
@RobsonRoverRepair
@RobsonRoverRepair 3 жыл бұрын
Dam right. Old man was owner of UK Sierra's for long time. Brilliant cars. I always wanted a xr4x4i myself here but never found a good one at a sensible price.
@anselpeneloperainblossom-s3489
@anselpeneloperainblossom-s3489 3 жыл бұрын
I’ve owned several XR4Ti All with the T9. An epic car with the worst manual available🤦‍♂️ There is one in rock River, Wyoming I’m thinking about trying to buy
@jcs_190
@jcs_190 3 жыл бұрын
Are you serious? My dad had a sierra when it was only a couple years old. It was stolen within seconds. Not only that, the horrible cheap plastic dashboard was just rattly and the cars just rotted away anyway because it was a cheap tatty car anyway.
@herbwheeler4470
@herbwheeler4470 3 жыл бұрын
You're kidding right? They were junk.
@spiralnapkin
@spiralnapkin 3 жыл бұрын
How so?
@LG123ABC
@LG123ABC 3 жыл бұрын
Fun Fact: Principal Skinner on The Simpsons is the proud owner of a Merkur XR4Ti.
@JDMHaze
@JDMHaze 3 жыл бұрын
thanks
@bcranford714
@bcranford714 3 жыл бұрын
Jim Rome 2
@UnclePhilCosby
@UnclePhilCosby 2 жыл бұрын
Great work 💯 My Dad bought a 1989 Sterling 827 right off the showroom floor 🤦🏾‍♂️ and I had 2 mid ‘80s 504 Peugeot when I was 19-21. Either car would make great content 🙏🏾
@johnkeating362
@johnkeating362 3 жыл бұрын
My husband and I tagged along with a couple we knew to meet others we knew who were camping in the early 90’s. The couple had a new XR4Ti. It was roomy, easily storing our bags in the back, and we were comfortable in the back seat on the 3 hour drive. The sound system was excellent. We always thought it was a beautiful car, especially in black. It was a head turner back then, as there weren’t too many on the road.
@georgereginald6084
@georgereginald6084 3 жыл бұрын
Why would they name it the Mercur when they already had Mercury 🤔
@arn7992
@arn7992 3 жыл бұрын
Exactly my thoughts. Basically dealerships were Lincoln Mercury Mercury essentially
@kerriwilson7732
@kerriwilson7732 3 жыл бұрын
The German name. Likely Ford hoped Mercur would be similar enough to Mercury to be recognized as a Ford marque but still have the 'panache' of German engineering.
@Oonagh72
@Oonagh72 3 жыл бұрын
I loved Merkurs!! They looked so cool.
@DWilliam1
@DWilliam1 2 жыл бұрын
Just found your channel and loving it. As a guy in my 50’s I remember a lot of these cars and owned a few myself. How about doing something on a Bertone?
@paulhansen7667
@paulhansen7667 3 жыл бұрын
I still think these are cool!
@krane15
@krane15 3 жыл бұрын
If it came out today, it would still look modern. The interior, however, is another story.
@anthonyrivera4735
@anthonyrivera4735 3 жыл бұрын
Do a video about the daewoo car brand
@mattw8332
@mattw8332 3 жыл бұрын
I grew up with the Ford Sierra. You could even get an early one with an underpowered 1.3 litre engine in 1982/83. Some of the lower spec Scorpios in the UK were actually badged ’Granada' until 1994.
@garyb2392
@garyb2392 2 жыл бұрын
One of my childhood friends parents had a XR4TI…I remember it being awesome passenger experience…recalling my 17yr old me.
@jeremygeorgia4943
@jeremygeorgia4943 3 жыл бұрын
They looked like oversized Saabs, with dual spoilers.
@cherrypepsi2815
@cherrypepsi2815 3 жыл бұрын
Saab, yes Whale tails and spoilers, ew
@keelay1977
@keelay1977 3 жыл бұрын
'Marque' as you're using it, is pronounced "mark"
@palmermccall7309
@palmermccall7309 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you. "Marquee" is the sign above the movie theater entrance!
@joskjj3625
@joskjj3625 3 жыл бұрын
My uncle had a red Merkur xr4ti back in the days, it was a decent vehicle
@nevids2086
@nevids2086 3 жыл бұрын
I want this car ever since my dad told me about it and even with my car knowledge at the time I didn’t know what the heck it was. Now I want it even more!
@LABdk
@LABdk 3 жыл бұрын
Great work on your channel. Please do a segment on the Volvo S40. It was a major change in design language and collaboration with Mitsubishi circa 1993 along with a progression of, I think, the Galaxy project started in the early 70’s. It was also the first Volvo with the “S” moniker. Sold in Europe only in the 1990’s then imported to the us in 1999/2000 sold through early / mid 2010’s. It seemed to be deemed a failure of Volvo in the late 90’s, but often enjoyed by drivers. The second generation circa 2004 was influenced by the Ford purchase... I love my ‘03! Just saw a 1999 S40 with 275,000 miles. Also, a friend in high school drove a Merkur XR4Ti and I thought it was so cool… then he told me how many problems he had.
@gatblau1
@gatblau1 3 жыл бұрын
That RS 500 looked pretty slick! I wouldn’t mind one of those.
@uchoward1ify
@uchoward1ify 3 жыл бұрын
Unfortunately that will run circles on any 5.0 Mustang.
@LilDiabloRob
@LilDiabloRob 2 жыл бұрын
My childhood friend’s older sister, at the time (early 90s), had a 5dr Merkur. RWD. But always broken down. And we always got stuck in it during the winters in hilly SW Pennsylvania lol.
@mrgold3591
@mrgold3591 2 жыл бұрын
I purchased an used 88 Merkur Scorpio back in 1990. Love that car and drove it coast to coast as a young active duty military officer in the Army. Nothing else on the road at that (used) price point looked that good. The hatchback of the Scorpio had so much room and a lot of flexibility. Constant electrical gremlins, poor resell value, and having a rear half shaft explode at hwy speeds at +85,000 miles made me give it up after a . Been a Honda/Acura owner since.
@thescarletblimpernel3720
@thescarletblimpernel3720 2 жыл бұрын
Very good vid. I'm from the UK, and grew up with the sierra, it was a very dodgy step for Ford, and at first back fired! We had the Cortina first, a very loved car for us. sure, they rusted away quickly but were reliable. And easily fixed. (so was the Sierra as it was loosely based on the Cortina.) the Cortina here was basically your Chevy Nova. Ford north America seemed to lack that size at that time?? Very entertaining content! 👊
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