Here's How The Matter Smart Home Works Right Now

[@martinsherry]

I was contemplating pulling the trigger on some matter products just to try it out but after watching this video I am definitely holding off for a few months. Thanks for the video.

[@AutomateYourLife]

Definitely hold man. Save your $$$

[@free2bemebarbie345]

Same , I've been looking forward to matter devices but Now I'm not nearly as excited about it. I don't need more headaches with my smart home setup . I was really hopeful that matter would resolve so much of the problems with disconnecting during service outages, apparently nothing will be changing in regards to that problem. I don't currently get alot of outage issues with my service provider but it definitely happens from time to time. I have a ton of automated things set up in my smart home so I was very hopeful about matter, Apparently matter doesn't matter yet .. 😆 🤣 LOL

[@rfischer1984]

I wished I held off. Every matter product I have tried has been a nightmare. It works sometimes. Sometimes some lights just dont come on when motion is detected. Almost as if they lost connection. I am just going to stick with zigbee, and zwave devices for now.

[@VictorNapolillo1]

Great video, Brian. No need to apologize in the title. I've been trying to time my Matter implementation based on candid Intel like yours. Can't wait for the update video in 6 - 12 months as the standard matures. Appreciate ya'!

[@AutomateYourLife]

Thanks Victor! I'll definitely update as things get better. I've seen a couple things already

[@faengelm]

Hi Brian. Thanks for this extensive review! This is what makes your channel so valuable.

[@AutomateYourLife]

My pleasure sir! Thanks Frank!

[@Ryuker16]

This video is the best. I thought i was going nuts when my matter smart curtains kept disconnecting. After 6 months, i bought zigbee blinds

[@AutomateYourLife]

I've had a few things get better, but it's still pretty much the same...sad!

[@c849243]

It seems that Matter has done nothing but add confusion to Automation. Thank you so much for helping us to navigate this morass!

[@AutomateYourLife]

Thank you!

[@Polkster13]

It's called "growing pains"; and right now it can be quite painful. Unless you have a specific reason to jump on the Matter bandwagon, my advice is to wait and let others work out the issues on the "bleeding edge". I think in a year or two from now, Matter (if it survives) will be a lot more mature and should work much better. Also, keep in mind that this was over three years in the making. Imagine what it would have been like if they had released Matter a year ago. Everyone was clamoring for it and developers were saying they still needed do a lot more testing to make sure they got it right. As we can see, there is still a LOT of work that needs to be done.

[@AutomateYourLife]

Yep!

[@dizzle8465]

Fantastic. So the three Yale Assure Lock 2's that I bought because they were Matter capable, will likely be trash initially. Great, just great. Currently I'm waiting for the Matter module for my lock to release, but it appears that I'll also have to extend my wait even further until Matter matures a bit. Oof, big oof. At least the locks are Zwave/wifi capable, but they're all separate modules 😑😑😑 Good video, thanks for the updates on this 👍🏻

[@AutomateYourLife]

Sorry for the wait. It'll come around (at least I think so)

[@dizzle8465]

@@AutomateYourLife It's all good, just happy to have seen your review of current matter products.

[@vu3088]

Will Philips hue be able to update their products to use thread if they choose to? Or will that require hardware they don’t have currently?

[@AutomateYourLife]

They've answered that question already. They won't be doing a thread update for their system, which I think is OK. They'll be a Matter Bridge and that should be plenty for Hue. It works as is :)

[@vu3088]

@@AutomateYourLife thanks for the reply! I’ll continue to watch your content!

[@brianweimerskirch2893]

Thanks for the helpful videos, Brian. Do you know if the Aqara M2 hub will allow act as a bridge for all zigbee products, or just the aqara branded ones?

[@AutomateYourLife]

Today it looks like Aqara will only end up as a bridge for their own gear, but I'm interested to watch them over the long term!

[@pauljenkins6877]

Being able to control products from many manufacturers from a single app is of some value, I suppose, but the real benefit of Matter is surely the ability to create rules that seemlessly link products from different manufacturers. For example, if one of my Wyze cameras detects motion, one of my LIFX bulbs will turn on. If Matter cannot deliver this, it will not be a success.

[@AutomateYourLife]

Yeah, that's a huuuuuge benefit. So far...not even close though.

[@Jillybean620]

Very helpful and informative. Thanks for a great explanation.

[@AutomateYourLife]

Thank you Jill!

[@KernowSUP]

So currently it's not working great, I have mostly apple kit and would love to use the HomeKit to run my smart home. It is currently a mix between smart things for locks and plugs that feed into google home. How long before we can simply copy these over? And will you still need a HomePod or static iPad?

[@AutomateYourLife]

It's always a good idea to have a HomePod for the Home Hub features, but for Matter, you will need a HomePod or a Mini version to have a Matter Controller working right.

[@paul-erikhansen5769]

I was just about to order Hubitat, is that still an advisable product, even with Matter issues, or better to hold off?

[@AutomateYourLife]

My advice would be to hold off about a month. :)

[@MandiSmash]

This is so frustrating. Our home network was lost/destroyed and I am trying to rebuild it.. was really hoping to get this done because all our lights have been stuck at their last (evening) setting which is so frustrating. I don't want to buy old stuff... ugh!!

[@AutomateYourLife]

You should be able to use your existing stuff though! Just remake and reuse stuff for a bit longer here :)

[@tomshyrus7965]

I have 1 matter device (plug) and 1 matter controller (echo) and using it in my alexa app. If i want to share the device with other user to use is it in their alexa app, should i need to have another matter controller from Amazon?

[@AutomateYourLife]

Nope! Amazon allows you to have multiple people sharing the same set of devices and Alexa in general. You set up a second profile in Alexa's app for them and invite them.

[@tomshyrus7965]

@@AutomateYourLife: Thanks for clarifying.. Also, lets say i buy 50 thread matter devices for my home and installed it everywhere in same network.. if i want to share all the devices to someone in home, it will be a huge task to share each devices by generating each QR code from a primarily installed app.. is there any easy way to share all the devices at once?

[@jason3064]

Does it fail to connect on smartthings regularly?

[@AutomateYourLife]

There's a table fairly early on with failure rates, but...in summary yeah

[@jason3064]

Thanks for the reply, rewatched and just saw it, I must have looked away when that flashed on screen. 9/10 is horrible

[@PsychoticShine]

I have the echo 4th gen and amazon updated it to be a thread boarder router. I am confuse why the 4th gen was the only one updated to be a thread boarder router. I thought that all echo's with a Zigbee hub would have a thread signal. Thread is like the new version of Zigbee. So i thought those would be thread compatible.

[@AutomateYourLife]

I’m sure there are lots of reasons, but the Echo Show 10 3rd Gen did get the update just last week too

[@PsychoticShine]

@@AutomateYourLife so maybe it is a slow roll out. Thing. So there going backwards with devices. The first one to get the update was the 4th gen with hub then the show 10.

[@MikkelRamskovKjr]

Great video! Thanks

[@AutomateYourLife]

Thank you!😃👍

[@Vamanos46]

I just want something that works via Assistant /Google home app, to OPEN AND close garage/doors (gtfo myQ), even if my data connection stays offline for prolonged periods (I have no access other than Starlink). Disclaimer: I am an android and PC Power-User, so no Apple or Alexa recommendations please.

[@AutomateYourLife]

Maybe just try a smart relay. Shelly

[@Vamanos46]

@@AutomateYourLife thank you. I am familiar with Shelly but did not consider it for garage door opening.

[@RiceEater483]

Have you tried the Tapo P125M? I've seen a few reviews of that and it seems like it works pretty well.

[@AutomateYourLife]

In the first minute...

[@RiceEater483]

@@AutomateYourLife oops lol

[@petertgreen]

Have you verified your home network and all devices have been updated to be IPv6. Once I updated my network to have a IPv6 DHCP sever with static assignment of addresses, many of the stability issues I was having with the mss 115 and Home Assistant went away. I suspect the requirement for IPv6 is catching out many home automation network owners. Maybe do an audit of your IPv6 network capabilities.

[@AutomateYourLife]

So I did check the network was capable (and actually tried a different mesh system too), but one thing you said caught me. Why would all network devices have to be IPV6? That's not something I caught onto, and I wonder if I have a few older things hanging around

[@petertgreen]

@@AutomateYourLife I am not saying all devices need to be IPv6 but you would need IPv6 networks services running such as DHCPv6 and you might want static leases to have some stability. You would need to allow routing of IPv6 within your home network and between any VLANs if Matter devices, Home Assistant (or any controller) and client devices are on different subnets. It looks like IPv6 multicast is also required. Seems to be that all the IPv6 requirements are critical for Matter to work and I got that direction from Meross when I was troubleshooting the mss155. This is likely what will limite the adoption of Matter as most people have not configured IPv6 at home and many consumer devices do not have this enabled by default. It will be interesting to see how this stuff gets 'blocked' on people's home Internet routers as most ISP are not providing IPv6 services. Maybe check out this link to see how much this protocol depends on have a full IPv6 environment. developers.home.google.com/matter/primer/thread-and-ipv6

[@tomshyrus7965]

Do u think these are matter sdk problems? Or manufacture software development problems?

[@AutomateYourLife]

Tough to nail down Tom. I get the feeling that there's a little bit of both. The "memory leak" stuff almost feels like a hardware/Software problem on the Matter side, while the apps behaving as if things are disconnected feels like an app side problem. It's all over the place.

[@tomshyrus7965]

Because i feel like, these problems can be fixed in OTA update in coming months (if they want to 😜)

[@stevenk195]

I fought for years never wanting anything wi-fi for automation. Everything had to be Z-wave or Zigbee. Well, my garage opener MIO something finally failed. I ended up buying a Meross wi-fi garage door opener. It has to be the easiest device I have ever configured in my Smartthings setup. It works, it tunnels through Meross, and I honestly don't even care. It...just....works!

[@AutomateYourLife]

That's what we're after!

[@stevenk195]

@@AutomateYourLife It is what we are after on the surface, but I know how it does it and I don't like that. I want it all "clean". Matter. I don't want it all funneled through everyone's propriety system. I know in the back of my mind that it's using some kind of Samsung generic port to hand-off all the controlling to Meross. If Meross goes kaput, then anything Meross goes kaput. I'll pretend not to know all this and just be amazed how easy and reliable my garage door now works with Samsung Smartthings. As an aside, looking at the prices for all of the Meross switches, etc... I could have saved a ton of money just buying their Merosss products and using it with Smartthings, instead of all that pricey Z-wave stuff. Or even one better, just never went with Smarthings and their hub and used the Meross app to control it all. Sad, but it would have worked probably better over wi-fi with no hub, more reliable, and saved a lot of money. I'll take that back. Meross is all pure wi-fi. So, any motion sensors or low-power stuff isn't sold by them. I do like my zigbee motion sensors and I even have a small square SONOFF button by my bed that lets me control fans, lights, etc.... all from my pillow.

[@rosiehawtrey]

It'll work until your Internet goes down.. Then it's about as much use as a chocolate fireguard..

[@jack5mikemotown]

ive been sort of mentally prepping for matter and thread, and considering that in my device choice, asking myself "do i want to continue to build out my zigbee network with thread and matter pickup steam soon?" and ive learned that the answer is yes. zigbee devices work great, and i only use one primary platform anyways. ill continue to keep an eye on thread and matter, ive already got a thread border router, but i'll let other people test drive it in the meantime...

[@AutomateYourLife]

Exactly what I had hoped people would decide. At least for now. Good luck!

[@chaseb9857]

My sengled bulb loses server connection all the time. Can't get echo dot 5 occupancy sensor to trigger this light bulb either

[@AutomateYourLife]

Those occupancy sensors on the Echo Dots are not useful. Hard stop there.

[@chaseb9857]

@@AutomateYourLife good to know. Are they any better on bigger echo?

[@Bigglare]

link to the linkind bulbs?

[@AutomateYourLife]

There is none just yet. I asked but linkind hasn't put up a page for them. Actually nice except for the connection issues

[@PsychoticShine]

I might wait a few for getting matter products. It is really early on. Not everything is fleshed out yet. And there still working on it.

[@AutomateYourLife]

That's best for a bit yet :)

[@vinhennessy3885]

I’ve replace all my Hue light bulbs, but kept the Philip Hub, hoping that it will get Matter and use it as a Matter Access Hub. We’ll see if it’s a Matter bridge or just another proprietary garbage

[@AutomateYourLife]

We shall see. Hue's implementation should be really good. Why'd you replace the Light bulbs though?

[@samiam732]

Sometimes my matter bulbs totally disappear from Amazon app. I also have the no response or offline issue a lot. But usually only in one app.

[@AutomateYourLife]

Yeaaaaaahhhh, this should go away with a firmware update that's been released

[@HughD]

Thanks, Brian. I think many of us who have tried Matter have had similar experiences. Fo me, Matter is of little use for most devices. These days even if you use multiple smart home systems (Alexa, Homekit, HA, Google, SmartThings, Hubitat) just how hard is it to find an outlet, bulb, switch, motion sensor, etc. that will currently work with the systems you're using. It's not hard at all!!! They're available and generally inexpensive. So what are we really trying to accomplish? It's not about the cheap stuff, but really primarily about getting your expensive stuff working across platforms. These are primarily cameras, security systems, locks, and a handful of other products, like vacuum cleaners (not yet even supported by Matter.) Life would be so simple for users if Google made it possible to use their Google/Nest devices with Homekit, for example and if Amazon made their Ring systems available to all w/o Matter. You hit the nail on the head, Brian. It was grrrrreat!!!

[@BrandonDoyleMN]

Agreed 100%

[@AutomateYourLife]

In general I'd agree with this, but outside of the US...choices get slim, fast! There's a need for lots of stuff to be ubiquitous. But there definitely was an easier way. Best with Homekit would've taken nothing and is that perfect example

[@merrickbryan85]

So I got some early release Meross smart plug and they won't even connect to smartthings or Alexa lol... keeps asking for random stuff or just keeps failing. I'm waiting till they get it together lol.

[@AutomateYourLife]

Not just me then hey? I wouldn't touch the stuff with a 10 foot pole right now. My lights above my kitchen table won't adjust. One says they're online, the other says it's offline, and both won't do anything. It's great!

[@merrickbryan85]

​@Automate Your Life yeah Samsung is still giving me an error code that has no reference. Alexa keeps asking for an update

[@PeloquinDavid]

Thanks for this very helpful exposé. You've convinced me to keep things on hold until we get a lot more thread devices that will work fairly seamlessly AND Samsung/Smartthings (which I use) updates allow bridging from Aqara matter controller(s) that I also have. It also sounds like I should wait to set up a mesh wifi system (i.e. until I hear that at least some of them will actually work as matter controllers) to reduce the connection burden of my still numerous WiFi devices. Bottom line: like a lot of people, I'll be spending my money mostly on other home renos this year and wait for things to settle down before upgrading ANY of my devices.

[@AutomateYourLife]

That sounds about right David!

[@dubiella]

I think you should try other Matter Bridge than Aqara, I use Apple Tv as a Matter Bridge , and works petty fine for me!

[@AutomateYourLife]

The Apple TV isn't a Matter Bridge. Little difference there. It's a Matter Controller, and those for Apple I showed to be working pretty well!

[@dubiella]

And yes! the new apple tv is a Matter Bridge! The new apple tv model that came out in november. Looks like you are having problems with the bridge.. not the outlets

[@AutomateYourLife]

@@dubiella look it up :). Matter Bridge us different than Controller. Apple TV is not sharing all Homekit products to other platforms. That's what a bridge does

[@galfert]

I'm really hoping that this is just a Matter over WiFi issue. I currently have just Zigbee and Lutron Caseta. Never been a fan of WiFi outlets nor other WiFi devices for home automation. I'll wait for Matter over Thread devices to become available before I expand.

[@AutomateYourLife]

The thread stuff does seem a bit better right now...but not always! So... give it time

[@Eviltek2099]

My entire network is Z-Wave and I have had ZERO issues. The only issues I do have is with Smart Things disconnecting from their cloud. I really wish I could find a Z-Wave compatible system that worked with Alexa that was local except for the voice integration.

[@AutomateYourLife]

You'll get there with Smartthings. Just gotta get the edge drivers all done

[@houstonshomeautomation3524]

Wow . Just what I thought. I only have a nanoleaf bulb and a home pod mini with matter on board. The wife set it up pretty easily. But as you said , it is apples standard so I expected as much.

[@AutomateYourLife]

Nanoleaf doesn't have any Matter rolled out so that was straight up Homekit!

[@nairreDDerrian]

Everyone is saying Matter kind of sucks. I honestly don't get the benefit over any other protocol (as long as you have the right hub).

[@AutomateYourLife]

It should have some benefits eventually...but today the problems outweigh them

[@Juttutin]

I'm old enough to remember when people said exactly this about Ethernet.

[@ronm6585]

Thank you sir.

[@AutomateYourLife]

Thank YOU sir!

[@subbab4]

What do you use your smart plugs and bulbs for?

[@AutomateYourLife]

I love smart bulbs because of the different control options from color, to temperature, to brightness. So I'd just rather have those than regular ones. Smart plugs I mostly use to save money. Turn stuff off when it's not being used

[@somemovingpictures]

My use of Lutron Casetta via the Lutron app in Hubitat is both local and rock solid. I ain't goin' nowhere differnt.

[@AutomateYourLife]

You don't need to with that kind of system!

[@bikingmonkey1535]

Early adopters will always feel the pain that is associated with that event. I'll wait until the bugs are fixed, and then probably only move - when I have to.

[@AutomateYourLife]

It's a good idea I think

[@SolarizeYourLife]

How does matter work with Google?!? When will Google have matter compliant (certificated) hubs??! My smart home is still stupid as hell when the Internet drops even when I have matter devices...have zero control...

[@AutomateYourLife]

Voice assistants still require the internet. That's different than control. So do you have zero voice control, or something else?

[@SolarizeYourLife]

@@AutomateYourLife yeah, but the hub completely shuts down when you lose internet, it becomes unusable with any input...so to with the home app!!!

[@AutomateYourLife]

@@SolarizeYourLife ok so you are losing control. I hadn't tested it myself. That sucks

[@O1OO1O1]

Soon we'll need an automation device to automate our automation devices.

[@AutomateYourLife]

But then I'll need something to manage that

[@O1OO1O1]

@@AutomateYourLife perfect job for a smart robot!

[@danilolorenzetti712]

I don't know why I thought that Matter would be not exactly what we all hoped for. There're many interest in play, too many companies....and there's not a win-win game at all. I'm not hopeful that it is going to be able to fulfill ours expectations. Time will tell.

[@AutomateYourLife]

Time will tell is exactly right.

[@O1OO1O1]

Good content.

[@AutomateYourLife]

Thanks! We work hard at it!

[@AquariumThoughts]

Matter sounds like a promising protocoll. For me, it really doesn't solve anything. I just try to stick with zigbee and zwave and a single hub to control everything(Hubitat) connected to Google Home. Though I do have a couple "legacy" devices that just connect to their respective app and G. home. I really just think it's just a step forward to make it easier for the masses and those not into tinkering with things.

[@kyleagha2948]

I'm looking for a Android base water leak detector that will work with Google Home. Can you make any suggestions?

[@AutomateYourLife]

Nothing direct that's been good. Sorry Kyle. You need a hub to get good leak detection done with proper notification (today)

[@kyleagha2948]

@@AutomateYourLife thought about trying Govee WiFi Water Sensor ? If not that which one with a easy to use hub, I also am trying to get things (hub) that will work in the multiply other devices in th future

[@BrandonDoyleMN]

It just (doesn’t) works! How about we just stick with what we have? Ohhhh the Zigbee

[@AutomateYourLife]

It could be great someday, but for now...yaaaaa

[@scoty_does]

Hmmm what im hearing is Thread or Zigbee, (802.15 device) + matter.

[@johnelliott9823]

honestly I don't get the wifi hate. But I'm using mesh which makes a difference. Not seeing the matter value add yet

[@AutomateYourLife]

Yeah I'm fine with WiFi 99% of the time, just...Matter over WiFi isn't working at all yet.

[@KASumwalt]

You should have used HAss with Matter. It's the unholy grail and I'm sure it would have been flawless! Or not... 😂

[@AutomateYourLife]

🤣🤣🤣 you didn't Karl!!

[@toolate6971]

This was complete. This is not ready for the consumer market yet. It sounds like the developers don't actually use the product or understand how it works. They are using consumers to troubleshoot all of the bugs.

[@AutomateYourLife]

It does feel like that somedays... Actually it feels like that lots in the smart home space!

[@pjuk]

I just don't get the point in yet another standard. I have google home, smartthings, nest, hue, tp link and various random things using smartlife and all work great between cross platform, using WiFi Zigbee etc. Just seem to be confusing things for no reason. It's just gonna baffle newcomers to smart home devices even more. The bit you said about duplicates is tedious though. I had all my hue show a second time in Google, just created a second home called duplicates and moved them all there, just a shame Google home app is sooooo slow at moving devices between homes and rooms. Also random if a name change in the native app will copy over to others. I find to Google yes but to Smartthings no. But with the issues you've faced with matter I think I'll stick to what I've got!

[@AutomateYourLife]

For now I definitely would stick to what you have!

[@EsotericArctos]

The inconsistencies between manufacturers is something I was hoping wouldn't happen, but I thought it would. Matter feels like it was rushed out, despite the fact it was delayed so long. It just is not ready for production use yet.

[@AutomateYourLife]

Yeahhhh, and that's my message here! It's too soon and they shouldn't have done it.

[@marcesw35]

WOW, this review is based on a standard that has been fully adopted and implemented. Those plugin smart plugs are more hassle than they are worth and I rather use Smart Wall Socket and switches for the home and I have one eco system in my and not multiples.

[@Max86421]

🍎 Not all smart devices work with Apple HomeKit. I was hoping matter 1.0 would solve that problem, Hopefully Matter devices will get better over time

[@AutomateYourLife]

They will, I'm sure :)

[@coriel2597]

No matter for me! Life is complicated enough!😂

[@AutomateYourLife]

Stick to the regular stuff for now eh?

[@gaztykephotography]

I get that it’s an immature standard at present, but to have it be a step back from the standard it’s intended to supersede is a huge own goal

[@AutomateYourLife]

Kicked their own proverbial butts with it

[@gaztykephotography]

@@AutomateYourLife Sure fire way to pi$$ your customers off

[@RajaGSD]

Why wouldn’t you just not use Matter items? For the record I think your observations are super valuable even for earbuds and how can require reconnection constantly or the idea that duplicates or quadruples can occur, but at the same time why focus so much on Matter if not using it makes it a moot point?

[@AutomateYourLife]

Well for me personally, I need to test it to tell you folks. For others, people are hoping that it makes their lives easier in terms of which devices to purchase and use. Setup, linking/connecting, and automation. We're hoping it's all going to be better

[@RajaGSD]

@@AutomateYourLife yea but I mean it’s basically a con (as opposed to a pro) of the product so why would you want someone to have to review a product so thoroughly bc the brand is so unreliable across platforms? Seems like a waste of time for me to buy Matter products based on the complex, frequent nuances you expose, which is why I ask why you don’t just conclude by telling people to keep their life simple by not using them

[@RajaGSD]

You’re phrasing everything in a positive phrasing in order to be objective but all you’re positive phrasing suggests seem to be mostly negatives just told in positive statements, with positive phrasing not always necessarily being “positive .”

[@RajaGSD]

@@AutomateYourLife by the way awesome review I’ll be subscribing

[@AutomateYourLife]

@@RajaGSD oh I'm sure this situation will improve over time. I'm telling people it's not time to buy these yet.

[@marcsanders9328]

Had you used an iPhone. You wouldn’t have had issues adding and setting up. Apple provided majority of the Code for matter so that might be a contributing factor.

[@AutomateYourLife]

Ohhh I used an iPad for many tests

[@myc0p]

"Nothing else MATTERs" - Steve Jobs

[@AutomateYourLife]

Metallica

[@Omgthedude]

I came here to say hi and nice shirt.

[@AutomateYourLife]

🤣👋

[@SimplyElectronicsOfficial]

I have had an absolute nightmare with anything matter. Anyone who has a smarthome with 50+ devices knows how much of a pain it is when shit keeps going offline, cloud services break. Protocols after protocols, sensors, batteries, devices dropping offline. Jesus! All I ever do is reconfigure shit at least once a week. I was sooo ready for matter! I couldn't wait to get everything talking the same language. But nope, Matter so far just looks like another broken protocol to add to the mix

[@AutomateYourLife]

Nice to know it's not just me. Sad though.

[@free2bemebarbie345]

So matter doesn't matter much currently to be an advantage in my smart home. So glad I'm not interested in getting matter devices currently 😂

[@AutomateYourLife]

Just hold on most of that stuff for sure

[@SmartHomeHASHTAGS]

We're you using the "old" Google Home app? Google doesn't update as often or as big as Alexa has recently. Alexa has had 250MB from the last 5 updates with no perceivable benefit for me without any Matter products. How can Google be better than Alexa in Matter with no exorbitant updates.

[@AutomateYourLife]

I used both the new and the old app actually! I also used iOS and Android :)

[@ctlspl]

Zigbee 3 does basically everything better, couldn’t care less for matter.

[@ben_car_8115]

Except that’s only the communication protocol, not the application layer. Matter is the application layer which uses the Thread and Wi-Fi communication protocols. With Zigbee you still need companies to taylor make support for Alexa, Google, etc, but with Matter (because it’s an application layer), that is not needed.

[@sdamir]

Zigbee is both network and application protocol.

[@coriel2597]

Just buy Amazon compatible products. Never an issue 😊

[@ScottHirschman]

What I find fascinating is the fact that in 2012 (ish) there was Stringify that made all of this matter & software totally useless and our homes were was better off and it was FREE! Then came comcast GGgrrrrr!!!

[@AutomateYourLife]

Ohhh Stringify. How we miss you

[@m9nu4lRJM]

The fact that It can be reseted by a buton and Time makes every product a failure ... My smart eletrical contact is being reseted and cant be conected because the Alexa itselft Is to big so It pushes the buton ,ITS on the kitcthen so when a chair Is too close It even turns off itselft.

[@walktohere]

It's ok your not a complete failure lol 😂

[@AutomateYourLife]

Whew!

[@prevaloir5362]

Exactly why I love matter, it just (never) works!

[@AutomateYourLife]

LOL

[@thomasottvideos]

In breaking tech news... Matter just officially changed its name to "Madder."

[@AutomateYourLife]

LOL I needed that line before I recorded

[@rosiehawtrey]

So what you're saying is that you have to associate matter with your app of choice and then use that to give everything else a docket saying "that's what we have installed" relying on cross compatible linking (and Apple Co operating with anyone 🥺😂😂😂) and beyond-skiddie coding... I think I know how Hubitat will do it, they have timeslicing/frequency slicing in some of their radios that means it'll work as well as it ever does... And quite honestly I'm not a fan. I just don't like what I'm hearing with matter because it's far too complicated and I'm betting you'll get all sorts of weird bugs - especially sensors - like different reactions based on the primary pairing app interacting with all the other associated apps.. Can see it ending in tears..

[@AutomateYourLife]

I sure hope they get this figured and everyone does play nice...cause yikes right now

[@Nordictor78]

Aqara has made a video how to link their m2 hub to Google home. Google wifi pro do absolutely not find the aqara m2 hub. Aaaaaarrrgggg

[@AutomateYourLife]

That makes sense (sadly). Google's released some Matter updates on their Nest Displays and speakers thus far. Hang tight and it'll come.

[@Bigglare]

Matter professed no need for Manufacturers apps. Why even try? Starting from Apple Home, every matter device above, cept for the linkind bulbs worked perfect. Eve's initial firmware upgrade insanity aside. Ive been able to add the matter devices to apple, home assistant, smartthings, easily. Amazon and Google do not support IOS so I wont blame matter. Smartthings wont support Matter Bridges yet, so again, not Matter's fault.

[@AutomateYourLife]

This has been your experience?

[@jasonedwards6562]

I have also had great luck setting up a few Matter devices with HomeKit. Things went bad once I added them to Google Home. Once I added them to GH things stop working in both HomeKit and GH. Deleting the device from GH did not restore them to a working state in HomeKit. So the issue for me is adding Matter devices to multiple systems. The devices that I only added to HomeKit continue to work just fine. I could not get any Matter devices to work with Alexa.

[@spoils8179]

@@jasonedwards6562 you apparently need to enter multi admin mode or something similar is what I've seen on a different video.

[@jasonedwards6562]

@@spoils8179 I did. I put them in pairing mode and was able to add them to Google Home after adding them to HomeKit but that is where things started going bad. Once in GH nothing worked anymore not even in HomeKit where they were working fine before adding them to Google Home. Alexa would also see the devices but would fail to add them. I have since removed them all from HK and GH but have yet to try adding them back. When I have some time I will try adding them to Google Home first to see if the outcome is different. I figure with Matter being so new there are plenty of kinks to still work out.

[@majestic.feminine]

Yup. How many engineers do we need to add a light blb? I prefer the old fashioned way of screwing in analog light bulbs.

[@AutomateYourLife]

Lol

[@richardmqq]

Thank you Brian for the truth. Like Elon Musk said, we need TruthGPT!

[@AutomateYourLife]

We really do! Thanks!

[@dankelley9361]

Let’s implement a new standard that’s not at all standard & doesn’t work, what a joke!

[@AutomateYourLife]

It seemed like a good plan at the time.... lol

[@PhillyDjHook]

_IT DOESN'T_ *MATTER*

[@AutomateYourLife]

What your name is?

[@PhillyDjHook]

@@AutomateYourLife LOL

[@a.h.d.h.2803]

Matter sucks because of "corporate greed!" as another youtuber would rightfully so well explain it. This youtuber was also one of the few who uses common sense not to be misled by the sales departments of smarthome industry about matter. Apparently a lot of expactations were induced by the anouncement of matter and a lot of youtubers were raving about matter. Those youtubers, -reviewers, experts and what not-, are merely parotting the sales departmens of the smarthome industry showing the lack of critical thinking. I'm inclined to believe that this is how the smarthome industry is framing the youtubers,. I find a lot of youtubers are made to look like idiots by the sales departments of the smarthome industry. Apart from Paul Hibbert who predicted this, you're now also showing the dampaning enthousiasm for matter and rightfully you are. When David Smith suggested to develope a worldwide standard for digital instruments to communicate with each other, midi became the world standard protocol for the whole world to use. Look what it brought to the pro's and the hobbyists and the consumers. Those were the days when entrpeneurs not only went for the short term financial profit, but the long term benefits for the whole world as well. But then again: For this to happen, people with vision are much needed, not corporate greed.

[@AutomateYourLife]

Paul definitely has and had his misgivings about it. I think it's still important and should get better, but we shall see

[@philipperostin]

Bryan is matter proof !