Here's the How, When & Why of Buggy Rubber Tires | Engels Coach Shop

Hard rubber buggy tires started in the 1800's. This is the brief history behind today's rubber tires and how they are installed on buggy wheels. The era of the horse drawn era is where many of our dynamics of the modern automobile originated. Thanks for coming along!
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[@RMoore-xp3qv]

Hi, Dave. I notice that, for a guy who doesn't do wheel work anymore, you do a lot of wheel work. I'm sure glad you do, love to watch.

[@nighttrain1450]

You know your old when you have whitworth spanner’s for your old English motorcycles, A/F spanner’s for your old-ish cars, and metric spanner’s for all your new-ish stuff. It’s been a fun life.👍❤️🇬🇧

[@loch1957]

I still have whitworth tools from my old greeves motorcycle.

[@andrewjones1649]

​​@@loch1957I have a Greeves 250 still, and therefore, not only Whitworth spanners, I have Whitworth sockets.

[@Hertog_von_Berkshire]

Not forgetting your set of BA spanners.

[@andrewjones1649]

@@Hertog_von_Berkshire yes, I keep those separate in a little plastic wallet.

[@nighttrain1450]

Yes I have BA spacers for the points on my BSA A65. And don’t get me started on how many thread taps I’ve had to get over the years

[@bruceyoung1343]

I know you have worked on countless wheels over the years. And can understand you maybe tired after so many. I’ll be honest, I still enjoy when you do.

[@cyrilhudak4568]

Thanks for the in depth explanation of the tire mounting machine. After all these years, I finally understand how it works.

[@calvinboykin4777]

What rocket scientist designed that buggy wheel rubber mounting machine?!! Designing a machine to accomplish such a difficult and complicated task is truly amazing. And we think today’s people are smart!

[@gerry343]

I wonder how they did it before that machine was developed.

[@PuchMaxi]

I bet Dave made it himself, sometime in the early 80's.

[@bushratbeachbum]

Dave made the machine himself. He's made the majority if not all of the custom tools he uses as far as I know

[@mplsmark222]

I have seen a small handheld tool that was made for cyclists, that does the same thing. Since early bikes used the same type of tire and required the wire to hold them on. The machine shown here is of course a deluxe shop grade machine.

[@JAR2.0]

I never get tired of watching you do your wheelwright magic. There is always something new and different to learn about.

[@mpojr]

l really enjoy taking a ride back in the past,,im 76 now but l still remember what my father said about history and the past, and l quote him; in order to know where you are going you have to know where you have been.Thank you Mr Engles for the ride down memory lane and your fine workmenship.

[@1pcfred]

I've never been nowhere and I'm not planning on going anywhere either.

[@fronniebealer7808]

I never tire of the work you do, no matter how many times you do it.

[@user-bc6wi6zy3k]

I agree, no matter how many times he rubbers it in. MB.

[@MikesFitnessGoals]

Mount any wheel right and I’ll watch.

[@bernventer5949]

Nice pun. I agree.

[@brianmros4844]

Hi Dave, and Diane, haven't seen a rubber tire for awhile, and a rubber tire was one of your first videos that I watched. As always...never boring. Thank you for sharing, and have a great weekend.

[@chuckbrown2765]

I remember the episode where he said he was moving away from tires. It's so hard to move away from something when your so awesome at it and you customer's remember it.

[@mayforddavis9291]

That is a different kind of "wheelie". Always appreciate being invited along on another adventure. Appreciate you. God Bless you and Ms. Engels.

[@ellisc.foleyjr9778]

Like so many other's that watch you Dave I never get tired or bored watching you work on wheels and rubber tires. Been a lot of years since I've done any "torch welding or brazing." so always nice to joggle my 81 yr old memory! thanks for sharing. ECF

[@stevewoodard527]

This seemed a bit more detailed than the past rubber tire videos -- interessting. Steve from Circle

[@calvinboykin4777]

P.S. to the rubber mounting machine comment….knowing how to use the machine isn’t immediately obvious either, to say the least!! I love your channel and wouldn’t miss an episode.

[@opendstudio7141]

The complexity of how these tires are applied gives cause to consider how many failures occurred In it’s refinement.

[@lewlewis8970]

You know, after watching you for years, I think I've got a sense of your sense of humor. Usually self-depricating, humble, somewhat wry...but funny (eg the vice makeover video). How about an episode of something of a miniature pony-drawn baby carriage with rubber-tired wheels? That way you could name the episode "The How, When, & Why of Rubber Baby Buggy Bumpers and Tires". It sounds like something you'd actually do with your "tongue in cheek".

[@RVHabit]

unfortunatly the 10mm is known as the most elusive of all sizes. You will never be able to find that wrench after today.

[@markdavich5829]

Craftsmanship never gets old - Good to see you whip another set of wheels back into shape.

[@vernonland5987]

I know Dave is tired of wheels but gosh darn it, there's just something about a wheel video!

[@montewoods4766]

World class talent world class instruction and a world class channel. Thank you Dave.

[@TheVespap200e]

Thanks Dave, always love the buggy tire videos! That machine is amazing!😀👍

[@user-nl7td8pk8e]

Great show your step by step was most understandable. I call this reducing it down to duckies and bunnies so everyone can understand. THANK YOU.

[@shaun27185]

Hi Im in my late 30s and live in the uk. I’ve never seen a wagon or buggy. I work for a well know vehicle break down company and hands down i watch every time you upload a video absolutely fascinated. The way you explain things is brilliant. Genuinely keep them coming ( if you ever need a oldish apprentice I’ll jump on the next a plane ) 👍👍

[@1pcfred]

Never seen a wagon or a buggy? I've seen your royals riding in their coach. Wow that thing is 262 years old! If they ever need it worked on they should get in touch with Dave. Apparently King George VI put rubber tires on it.

[@audiotechlabs4650]

Dave, among all the talents you possess, you are a great teacher! Us viewers don’t work on horse drawn wagons, but we do weld, do woodworking, some forge and so on. You do all these things and teach as you do them. One more of your attributes is entertaining. You remind me of the streaming classes you can take to learn this stuff. Don’t think for a moment you are redundant! You are not! Every video,even the same subject, is always fresh with new content. I just wish you had an apprentice to carry on your work. One more thing…..if possible an update sometime on the hotel. Thank you for your channel! We love you and the Mrs.

[@SteveBrecht]

I commented last week how tire assembly is magic... this week the magic continued! Thank you as always for making a record of these skills and sharing all of this knowledge. I think I've seen you put 50 rubber tires on over the years... still keeps me transfixed!

[@railfan439]

Dave, no matter how hard you try, you can't get away from your roots of being a wheelwright. Thanks for the video. Jon

[@mhughes1160]

I use metric crescent wrenches 🔧 all the time . LoL 😂

[@dianeengel4155]

😅

[@philbunston9663]

I've seen you do rubber tyres before but this is the first time I've had a full explanation of the machinery involved and how it works - Much appreciated

[@johnsanders8168]

I watch all of your video's . . . The machine you use to replace the rubber tire is absolutely amazing. Pure genius in it's invention . . . . . love it!

[@garrettswoodworx1873]

It's even better when you realize Dave "invented" that particular machine. He built it himself many years ago.

[@terryrogers1025]

I, sir, have always wondered about that very process, and now I know, it is quite the testament to the craftsman and the methods they used to build wheels, really enjoyed watching this video, very nicely done, appreciate the video.

[@SuperRede4u]

Dave, I know that you don't work on wheels very often anymore (I've seen most of your wheel wright series) but I never get tired of seeing the process of getting the rubber on the wheel. Great way to take care of a Friday afternoon. 👍

[@JimGarver-tx8rj]

I never knew how buggy tires were made or that they had wire in them. It only makes sense but I didn't know. It's an amazing process. At being almost 80 years old I'm glad to know that I can still learn something new.

[@xmrgwxw3474]

Really enjoyed the in depth description of how the tire machine works. It's amazing that that small brazed area can hold all that tension.

[@MikeWilliams-yp9kl]

Dave and Diane, Thanks for another amazing history lesson in buggy tyres , absolutely mind blowing, Thanks 💯 % ....🎉

[@danbreyfogle8486]

Here in northern Iowa about 15 years ago several counties had a bit of problem with metal tires on wheels used by religious groups who did not want to accept the change to rubber. There was significant problems with metal tires cutting into black top roads, especially in the summer when the sun warmed the road surface making them softer. I believe the result was a change by the groups as the counties and state did not want to ban them but yet they had trouble with the wear to the roads. So it stands to reason that in the west in those early days hard surfaces were not that common. I am always amazed at this process and always enjoy seeing it again.

[@umpokitomaurice6780]

This video is, to me, one of your best, although I have seen you rubbertireing wheels many many times. Your explainations about patterns in England and patterns in west US was a delight to me! Keep going, sir! Every weeks, I never miss your tuesday nor your thursday videos. Pardon my english, I'm a fellow from Montréal, Québec Canada.

[@JOHN-xg3xx]

salut EngelsCoachShop toujours un plaisir de regarder la vidéo avec un grand plaisirs

[@TheJoedirt6000]

a master at work

[@ricco8733]

I am a carpenter/woodworker for the past 35 years. I have learned a lot from you. Thank you for sharing your craft.

[@demonknight7965]

Im not surprised you found goodyear tires on a buggy. The Goodyear Tire & Rubber Company was founded in 1898 by Frank Seiberling in Akron, Ohio, and named after Charles Goodyear, the inventor of vulcanized rubber. Seiberling started with 13 workers making bicycle and carriage tires, and the company grew to become the world's largest tire company in 1916.

[@alfredomarotta6604]

Hello from Ohio, just SW of Akron.

[@garycornelisse9228]

I've been a mechanic and machinist for nearly 70 years and and I can't imagine what I would do without my 10mm wrench.

[@axpeg]

Credo siano trascorsi 4 anni che ti seguo, ti ho visto realizzare ruote di ogni dimensione e ogni volta è sempre una grande emozione

[@garthbutton699]

Thanks for the refresher course,I think I got it down Pat 🤗😎🤗😎

[@garthbutton699]

PS I will believe that when you use metric rivets...

[@olddawgdreaming5715]

You never cease to amaze us Dave. Still enjoy watching you fix buggy wheels. Thanks again for the refresher course. Stay safe and keep up the great videos. Fred.

[@BillOwens-vt2wi]

Nice to see the old ways still in use today. Its a good education thanks for the teaching lesson.

[@billk8780]

As a retired materials engineer, every time I watch Dave, the master teacher, I am in awe of his knowledge and craftsmanship.

[@ron.v]

This has been one of your more fascinating videos. We've watched you install rubber wheels many times but never in such detail nor with so much history included. Thank you.

[@jimlangerie]

I know you've done a lot of them in the past - and for a while it was old. But what was old is new again - thanks for the reminder and a nice trip down memory lane. I still remember a lot of what you taught us about the dish on wheels, and about heavy wheels. It was fascinating to recognize those things when I went to Gettysburg. Great perspective on old technology that still matters.

[@steveshoemaker6347]

Dave it is this old man in my late 80's pleasure to get to watch you do your trade.....l thanks you for that..... Old Shoe🇺🇸

[@treus_xc]

Thank you once again for guiding us through that highly interesting repair job! Have a lovely weekend!

[@stevenverhaegen8729]

😊 Yes, the famous contraption and the magic tapping closing that gap. Thanks again for detailed run through. Loved the musical trick to check tension... 😎👍

[@roberthagood4770]

Thanks for the video. May GOD bless.

[@sterlingdavidgrasssr]

I never knew how this was done ... now i do Thanks . You have a lots of tricks up your sleeve thats for sure . See Ya

[@thirzapeevey2395]

Who knew you could play Fur Elise on a wagon wheel? That was an excellent video, my friend. Thanks for letting us watch over your shoulder.

[@81cb750fss]

Dave's 8mm and 10mm just disappeared because they were finally noticed😂😂

[@dlaofmad2142]

Life's too short, and there's so much more yet to discover. Thanks for making it such a rewarding pleasure!

[@garywickliff9102]

interesting watching the detail and explanation of the tire machine. Noticed it is still raining there.

[@timothychandler1725]

You don't see that kind of machines in your local hardware store today. I really like how you show everyone how it was done yesteryears and are of today. If this world 🌎 run out of oil 🛢 we just might have to go back to horse's drawn buggies to get around. I sill can't wait to see the sheep wagon finsh.

[@Mudgrove]

That wire tying machine reminds me of (exactly) how a strapping machine works. Thanks for sharing how it's done.

[@howardschaefer1445]

Wheels have always been my favorite of your jobs. It's good to see this again.

[@grumpybastard5744]

Steel tyres on cobblestones are very noisy. When I heard a four-wheeler in a plaza in Rome it was really piercing, almost painful. I don't know how much rubber tyres improve the ride, but they definitely make it easier on everyone's ears!

[@terencelee2386]

Watching this process never gets boring! I enjoy it every time. Thanks!!

[@markgardiner5150]

Dave you truly a master of your craft! Thank you for your videos.

[@larryk5541]

I simply love that Rube Goldberg machine to mount the rubber tire onto the channel with all its clamps and levers and screws and wheels. Talk about your basic uni-tasker but, even so, it does what it does so well. Whoever invented that thing was a demented genius. And then, for all that it actually does, you end up banging the tire on the floor to close up the rubber, forming a complete tire. This may have been my favorite episode from your channel that I've seen.

[@2adamast]

I guess the machine comes with the tires as there are limited alternatives to not having that machine

[@clearviewtechnical]

An amazing assortment of skills are needed in the wheelwright trade and you sir, are a master of them all.

[@stevechewning7741]

Always a pleasure watching a master at work

[@ljackson8220]

I've been watching since the borax wagons. Nice detailed refresher.

[@richardmilliken9377]

We’ve been officially metric in Canada since the ‘70s. The fastener sections in the hardware stores are still, 50 years later, dominated by imperial measure (inch) bolts, nuts and screws. You absolutely need sets of both versions to work on most anything though

[@artt3165]

I appreciate the history lesson. I knew rubber tires predated the automobile but it never occurred to me to consider the difference in American and European use of rubber tires. It stands to reason they'd be in use in Europe then the Eastern US then maybe out west as paved (cobblestone) roads became more common.

[@grahammorgan9635]

Wonderful to watch and well done on your machine for mounting the tyres. Always a great start to my weekend.

[@hdibart]

Really enjoyed this,thanks.

[@paulw3182]

You make this look easy - thought you were going bend the steel on the anvil - Glad to see you have the old geared roll bender - a unique piece of history. Wow placing the rubber under tension which compresses it is an amazing process - what a wonderful machine.

[@rodragsdale1702]

Enjoyed your comments about this being the first time to use a metric wrench in the shop. The truth is, you have been using metic all of your life, you just use a strange way to measure it! Number 10 is one of the most useful tools in my shop! It is rare that I would reach for a 3/8th or whatever you call it. Enjoy your videos greatly and it is fascinating to get the back story on modern tires. Keep them coming. I enjoy them all, yes, even the sanding ones!

[@janjager2906]

It's been a while since I was on your channel. But somehow I need your videos. They relax my brain. Thank you

[@sfeddie1]

That was really fascinating. That wire stretching apparatus is a wonder to behold. Quite the invention.

[@alistairboak3128]

Thank you for the very clear explanation and history of ‘re-tyring’ buggy wheels. Excellent vidéo!

[@JorgeM523]

Now that is Absolutely Amazing. I love your presentation of the history on these wheels. The amount of knowledge you possess on wheelwright craftsmanship is such a pleasure to watch!

[@pete_ski]

Hi Dave I've watched you do this before, and I'm happy to watch you do it again. Many thanks

[@frankgaletzka8477]

I enjoyed this Video very much . Your Statement to use a Metric wrench is absolute . I laught out loud and i sip at my Coffee at that time and i had a hard time not to spread the Coffee all over the tabel. I wish you and your family a good weekend and Frohe Pfingsten ( i can say it only in German ) GOD bless you Yours Frank Galetzka

[@wilsonlaidlaw]

I had the opposite problem with metric yesterday. I had asked the people who store my Three Wheeler Morgan over the winter in the south of France, while I am back in the UK, to replace the crankshaft position sensor to improve the hot starting (a known fault with the US made S&S V twin engine once over 10 years old). I supplied the updated sensor kit and translated all the instructions into French for them. When I arrived to collect the vehicle yesterday, not only was the battery flat, as their cleaner had unplugged the battery tender at some point from its wall socket but they had been unable to change the sensor, as the US made engine uses all AF head bolts and they only had metric spanners. I am going to lend them my set of AF spanners later in the year to have another go.

[@raymondhorvatin1050]

thanks for sharing

[@Ironman-harmonica]

Thanks Dave Very interesting and educational video.

[@ferguscosgrave7510]

Interesting thanks

[@64Pete]

I appreciate you sharing your knowledge Dave. I will likely never put any of it into practice, the only experience I have of wagons is the wheel that my dad kept at the front of our childhood home. I never thought to ask him the significance of it, though I do have fond memories of watching him paint and pinstripe it as a young child. ✌ 🇦🇺

[@thomasbraeking6225]

Somehow, this video is a more detailed/comprehensive version of the similar, earlier video explaining how tires are set, but was easier for me to follow/understand. I guess that's why artisanal craftsmanship is indiscernible from magic! Another great video, Dave!

[@4GSR]

I still crack up every time I see that No. 1 Warner & Swasey turret lathe you have repurpose for wheel turning. The amazement of tensioning the wire just right to the tune before trimming and welding, what a art that is. Thanks for sharing from Ken down in South Texas.

[@_DREBBEL_]

Wow. This was incredible. Idk if this video could be made 10 yrs from now.

[@jeffrust8947]

What a master craftsman....

[@markbernier8434]

I had no idea how those buggy tires actually worked. If asked I would have said they were crimped in by the legs of the channel. Obviously totally wrong. Entertaining and educational.

[@johnbuchholz313]

Very interesting video. Thanks for demonstrating the tire replacement process on buggy/cart wheels.

[@edscoble]

I like that railways tyres fit exactly the same way as the buggy wheels.

[@jerrygillette854]

Dave, that contraption is really quite ingenious. Is that your own design? Great video, by the way, with great explanations of what you are doing and why you're doing it.

[@aerialrescuesolutions3277]

I do remember Dave saying in an older video, that he did make the wire/tire machine he just used.

[@craftycri]

Its soo good to see you smile! :) Thanks for all the friday's you have made me smile :)

[@burtonhill3016]

Absolutely have injoy watching you working . You truly are a master craftsman. Thank you.

[@joeyholley9209]

I really like your calm and relaxing voice, you explained this process very well. I had no idea on how rubber was put on a wagon wheel and surely didn't think I would watch it being done...WOW! ya got me. You have such a captivating presentation, thanks for posting.🌞

[@davidchisham]

Always very interesting. Thanks Dave and Diane.

[@terminalpsychosis8022]

Amazing, very technical, and specialized machine. Looks like hand made or heavily modified. This is pure skill. Artisanship pure. ... Pounding those hue wheels on the ground like that... I'd want an apprentice.

[@rickpuhl805]

Thanks again for documenting this for the next generation- fingers crossed

[@SteveRead-fx4rg]

It sounds like when you plucked the wires for the replacement tire you were tensioning them till they sounded so they wouldn't be like a B flat! Sorry I just could't resist. Always enjoyable to watch how it's done.

[@rexmyers991]

I never get tired of watching you do your magic. Just amazing work.

[@bobogilvie4472]

I am always amazed how intelligent our ancestors were.