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@terryrodbourn27932 жыл бұрын
You Should get the 2022 base Model 3 and trade your in to get it!
@jaimeduncan61672 жыл бұрын
I was expecting wear and tear of the interior. You did show some movement and one can see the status of some of the interior but a detail tour will be great. In any case, thanks for sharing pretty useful.
@marcasswellbmd69222 жыл бұрын
What are you on THAT BATTERY will go bad and have to be replaced at some point.. even if you don't drive it batteries degrade over time no matter what you do. I don't care about your mileage see me in 20/30 years and then talk shit..
@DraftedByTheMan2 жыл бұрын
Andy. Please check out my reply to mullman. I’d like to know your thoughts on including depreciation in your number.
@WalterNadeau2 жыл бұрын
@@marcasswellbmd6922 Fucking what? 20-30 YEARS? Are you driving a 30 year old car? And how much gas and oil do you pour into it? Battery replacement isn't even a thing, but even after 700,000 miles replacement would still be a bargain vs a gas car.
@ampedampson51402 жыл бұрын
Your battery is down 6.8%. Tesla, via a software update, added 15 miles to your car in 2019 to 325. 325 down to 303 is 6.8% degradation. Still an average degradation rate so not bad.
@teslakiller69592 жыл бұрын
Exactly this. This needs to be upvoted more.
@ampedampson51402 жыл бұрын
@@teslakiller6959 His misleading 2.2% degradation gets clicks and views. He won’t correct it. Even though he’s literally the only person with less than 5% degradation in a Tesla after 100k miles.
@teslakiller69592 жыл бұрын
@@ampedampson5140 Sad world we live in. Misinformation and stupidity is being honored...
@mellowvalentine93542 жыл бұрын
@Donald except he was replying to comments of the same age.
@chad-332 жыл бұрын
I wish the energy meter showed us how many kW were actually in the battery pack. I live in FL, RWD LR, mostly highway miles at 78-80mph, and can never get 240 actual miles comfortably.
@petersjstedt61702 жыл бұрын
I feel the same. I have a dual motor. almost 3 years old with 80.000 km. I live in Denmark and have had 2 trips to southend Europe. So smooth - and cheap. Also my best purchase : )
@JM-kv2kn2 жыл бұрын
How do you feel about the battery decrease?
@williamscoggin15092 жыл бұрын
@@JM-kv2kn I know Jay Leno said he had had his for 7 years when he traded it for a new model and from what he could tell he only had 5% degradation. Said power output was the same as original just a few last miles.
@PhilTheEar2 жыл бұрын
Skål!
@fancyIOP2 жыл бұрын
@@williamscoggin1509 but was he actually driving it? That guy has a zillion cars I bet some cars don’t get his driving attention.
@gabrielc56512 жыл бұрын
Do you have any problems with the cold and the snow?!
@ArchieAerokc16 Жыл бұрын
I dont want this to come off wrong (for the other reviews I’ve seen) bu this is by far the best review I’ve watched due to the fact you answered many questions that other missed, you’re shear humility & honesty, & the fact that you made every topic relatable. The other reviews I’ve seen have sounded like rich snobs complaining about every little detail when comparing it to other luxury vehicles & the topics they touched on were mostly in regards to things of that nature, which obviously is no real help lol thank you for this, I am now more interested in making the switch than I was before & its all thanks to your quality review 👍🏽
@michaeltheresa78952 жыл бұрын
Excellent review, Andy. I think this is one of your more important video, because it shows how the Tesla is as it "ages". New car reviews are nice, but most cars are nice when they are brand new. The real proof of a car's quality and reliability is when the car has some years and mileage on it. Good work, Andy.
@sails1802 жыл бұрын
Great review. Best car ever! I’m in it for the long haul also with my 2018 (red) LR RWD Model 3. Picked it up April 15, 2018. My last two ICE cars made it for 20 years before I donated one to PAWS Chicago, still looked new, and replaced it with the Model 3. As of yesterday it had a max range of 315 miles so no battery degradation at this point. That said I only have 39,825 miles on it. Enjoy the ride and keep up the great videos! ❤️ Side note; I’m in the FSD beta program. One of the numerous reasons I got this car was I thought it would be smoothly driving me around the heart of the big city (Chicago) by now. I drove for the rich & famous for 36 years and knew I’d eventually need to be driven around. At age 67 it doesn’t look like I’ll live to experience that… My FSD beta experiences in the big city are anything but stellar. Who knows maybe a big tech jump will happen.
@xxprogamblerxx230Күн бұрын
Lemme know when you are going to donate that model 3 🙏
@fabfabcemoi Жыл бұрын
Mine is almost 300000km, I got it in June 2019. It’s still very good ! Everyone is impressed when I tell them my mileage. It’s a Dual Motor Long Range. I’m French by the way.
@dexterstanley41859 ай бұрын
Still have it?
@fabfabcemoi9 ай бұрын
@@dexterstanley4185 yes and now it’s 385000km. I’m changing it at the end of the year for a Volvo EX90. I also bought an EQV300 in October (I’m a private driver in the Champagne area).
@dexterstanley41859 ай бұрын
Holy shit. That’s pretty good. Does it still have some life left? How’s the battery?
@fabfabcemoi9 ай бұрын
@@dexterstanley4185 The battery is fine, I think I lost 15%. Still can do long distance trip with no problem.
@BongelaMnguni3 ай бұрын
@fabfabcemoi That's a lot of milage for a 2019 car. My 2009 Jetta is still sitting on 280 000 km yet I'm driving it pretty much every day.
@eriknelson55852 жыл бұрын
I think the barrier to entry for so many people is the very high initial cost when purchasing and EV of any kind. Especially if you are a younger person like myself in their early 20s where any vehicle above 10-15k is extremely unreasonable.
@Arpedk2 жыл бұрын
Prices will come down, just try to drive as cheap as possible until then or even better avoid having a car if possible. We brought an old Hyundai when I was like 26/27 and a cheap apartment, 3 years later we had money for a Model 3. The Model 3 cost about half the price per mile as the Hyundai (not including devaluation). When used EV prices comes down owning a car will come way down in price.
@BigBoss-kq8mb2 жыл бұрын
I definitely agree. The average person is not paying 50 K for a car.
@nalsra07 ай бұрын
I’m 21 and paid off my Tesla model 3, yall just lazy
@Project2457official7 ай бұрын
@@nalsra0 “y’all just lazy” nah you just have rich parents 😂 calling everyone lazy in such an awful housing and job market is wild.
@nalsra07 ай бұрын
@@Project2457official Yeah me working 10’s 7 days a week is parents money bro yeah you got me 🤣🤣 Yall will do anything but work hard for what you want. Dont project you being a bum onto me ✌🏻
@Tbird7612 жыл бұрын
I bought a 2018 Model 3 LR AWD in early 2019. My real-world range on a full charge has been more like 265 miles. During winter, that is more like 210. Like the person in the video though, I've not seen any appreciable degradation from charge/discharge cycles. I've seen some other issues like my rear right tail light fogging up occasionally, something even my 28 year old Toyota doesn't do despite Tesla claiming that is normal. There is speaker grille in the front left that squeaks during driving. The control arms are starting to groan. There were multiple flaws in the paint such as debris trapped under it on the driver door and the rear right quarter panel not having had enough paint applied to it. They managed to dent the chrome trim above the driver door before delivery. The rear right passenger door is misaligned. The phone key feature is unreliable and will eventually leave you stranded if you don't keep a backup key card on you. The driver side window doesn't auto-up correctly. It goes up a couple inches and then back down, a process which repeats a variable number of times until eventually it goes up as expected. It's a misconception that these cars are heavy compared to gas cars, but the high torque does lead to quicker wear. My first set of tires wore out at about 25K miles, and from what I gather that is ballpark for what a lot of people tend to get. Those original tires had a tread wear life of 500 iirc. Service isn't that convenient if you don't live somewhere with a service center, and that is a problem since these things seem to almost universally have issues. The build quality in general is just not great and is more like what I'd expect from a $25K econobox than a $50K luxury sedan. I still like the car, but it makes me worry for the long term.
@beningram-eiser61212 жыл бұрын
cap
@cyrusfurtado81132 жыл бұрын
maybe had a fender bender on the rear right before delivery
@dustyc3242 жыл бұрын
My dad does work with Tesla, his company sells them machines that produce some of their parts. . He says his biggest complaint is the build quality, materials used. These things should get better with time and experience, supplier relations, leverage, etc. The cost of ownership explained here almost negates the initial price difference in 4 years. If it goes a decade at the same rate, it's on par or better than the best automobiles ever built.
@austinpowers19992 жыл бұрын
Buy a Ford. They make great cares that last forever and problem free.
@kevinsaint202 жыл бұрын
Luxury brands are almost never reliable. It’s usually the opposite. A $20k Toyota Corolla has legendary reliability but almost every single $50k+ car has horrible reliability. BMW, Mercedes, Porsche, etc. all have abysmal reliability and always have (despite German engineering supposedly being superior to every other manufacturer).
@cxmhny2 жыл бұрын
That was by far the best 19 minutes I've spent on youtube in my life!
@Birmingham_racing2 жыл бұрын
Never thought i would see a 100k review for at least for a few years. I don't own a Tesla but want one in the near future so this answers a lot of questions about used car ownership
@Widdermaker2 жыл бұрын
Yep, the Supercharger network was what convinced me to buy a new Model S way back in March, 2014. I waited until over a year AFTER Elon announced his nationwide Supercharger network to make sure he was serious. When it became clear he WAS serious, I jumped in wholeheartedly. And I’m so glad I did. I’m currently driving a 2016 Model S P100DL. I bought it because my 2014 Model S P85 didn’t have dual-motor AWD (I live in snowy Michigan); and also because it was just before 2017 after which Elon had announced Tesla was ending free unlimited Supercharging for its cars. So, I got in just under that deadline. Ever since, wherever I drive in the US and Canada, I never have to pay for Supercharging. And the car still runs perfectly fine after 5 years and only 53,000 miles. It doesn’t get any better than that! My next car will definitely be another Tesla!
@Smt_Glaive2 жыл бұрын
Awesome
@domk29932 жыл бұрын
The free supercharging is still on models up to 2017, right?
@Widdermaker2 жыл бұрын
@@domk2993 Yes, but a couple big if’s: 1) The original car purchaser bought access to the Supercharger network when the car was first purchased. Access to the Tesla Supercharger was a $2,000 option for new Tesla S & X car purchases in the early 2012-2014 model years. Most bought it, but a few car buyers didn’t! And… 2) You buy your pre-2017 Model S or X from a someone other than Tesla. I think you should get the car with continued access to free unlimited Supercharging. For example, if I traded in my 2016 Model S in to Tesla, they may not pass on the free unlimited Supercharging benefit to the subsequent purchaser. The best thing to do is contact Tesla before you buy a Model S or X from a private seller and ask if the VIN # has and still qualifies for free, unlimited Supercharging - and get that answer in writing from Tesla.
@Hallowsaw2 жыл бұрын
We will see if it can get to 200k like you know real cars can
@shawnwise24582 жыл бұрын
@@Hallowsaw there's always that negative guy in the comments.
@Mbjonesss2 жыл бұрын
This is honestly one of the most informative and enjoyable KZbin videos I’ve ever come across
@richh6502 жыл бұрын
Very good video Andy. Probably one of the clearest and most concise ownership videos I have seen without it being sidetracked with non-important info. I must say this has changed my mind about Tesla ownership and I much appreciate your sharing of your experience over the years
@good2go1932 жыл бұрын
I’ve had my LR over 40,000 miles with very few issues that were minor. The joy of driving the car far outweighs the issues. Got FSD when it was cheaper and very much enjoy being part of the future as a tester.
@RealGodfromheaven2 жыл бұрын
I had my model 3 for 3 years and then just sold it
@johnshera39352 жыл бұрын
@@RealGodfromheaven can i ask why?
@johnshera39352 жыл бұрын
fsd will never happen
@Pardis1112 жыл бұрын
@@johnshera3935 still takes some time. They wont start it off in crowded cities.
@good2go1932 жыл бұрын
@@johnshera3935 Neither will returning a rocket to earth and landing it on a rolling ship.😂.
@2binspired22 жыл бұрын
My battery life on my 2016 MS is around 230; 245 new. Almost to 100K
@nandrew752 жыл бұрын
Thank you Andy! It’s good to hear from you who has owned the car for four years now. I got mine LR March last year. I also enjoy it very much and will not go back to gas car. I don’t have a house but live in an apartment. So, I have to rely on superchargers. Even this is not an issue for me. Thanks for continue to make video like this to share your experience. I did not buy FSD. I also drive a lot. About 70-135miles a day.
@Ob1Love2 жыл бұрын
As always Andy, you are the best when it comes to Tesla. I am too old to get into the Model 3 as it sits too low for my back getting in and out. I have been waiting for the 4680 batteries before ordering a model Y. The prices increased so I held off and now they are back down a little so I may bite the bullet and just order one now and get it in August, hopefully from GIGA Texas. Thanks for all you do. I hope Tesla recognizes you and gives you a Model S Plaid!
@aslye2 жыл бұрын
Thanks Dennis!
@LawnMowerFan2 жыл бұрын
I think it’s awesome how much you’ve researched these cars. Most people I know above 50 won’t give Tesla the time of day
@Ob1Love2 жыл бұрын
@@LawnMowerFan If you reply was to me ... thanks. I am 71 and will be 72 this summer. I am a techno geek, retired Pilot and love gadgets!
@LawnMowerFan2 жыл бұрын
@@Ob1Love it was! It sounds like you’ve had a fulfilling life thus far. I think you owe yourself a model Y or whatever dream car fits your budget! I’m taking delivery of my model 3 next Tuesday and couldn’t be more excited. Have a good one!
@dporrasxtremeLS32 жыл бұрын
@@aslye Andy this kind of advertising is so first level, and direct! Thanks for the tire tips! Our gas is 4.30 a gallon or more for regular gas. For transmission oil and filter changes are 300- 700$ every 40-50K. Don't forget timing belts for 600-1500 every 50-60K. Brakes 300-1200 every 60K plus depending on location and driving habits. Great review! Thanks!!!
@fingerpickingood1900 Жыл бұрын
I rented a model 3 to go to south Ga. It was the best ride have ever experienced. Drove almost 450 miles and felt like I had just driven around the corner. Cost for my charges ….$11.87. I will only buy a Tesla even though Kia,Volkswagen, GM, have great electric cars but the charging network is unmatched.
@johncain85642 жыл бұрын
I'm right at 15k miles on my M3P. By far the best car I've ever owned. I agree with all of your points, excellent video.
@thomasjacques52862 жыл бұрын
Thanks for this long-term owner's update. Our 2020 LR AWD with the Performance Boost UpgradeY is 18 months old with just 15K mils and it's been flawless. I didn't buy it to SAVE any money I just loved how they drive (my last vehicle was a 2014 Stingray). But any savings for me is just a bonus which I can confirm is REAL and CONSIDERABLE over any ICE vehicle in its category. My plan was to keep our Y for 3 years and by then Tesla would have made enough improvements to make that the sweet spot to trade UP. That's still my plan, I want a new Y from Austin with the 4680 batteries and the latest features/upgrades. I'll be 71 years old by then and that might be the Tesla we keep for a longer period of time as their manufacturing capability should be greatly improved, plus am hoping for some new paint/interior color options. Regarding the cost of FSD, I agree purchasing it OUTRIGHT is not a wise financial decision now that you can "RENT" it on a monthly basis for $200. We take 4 to 5 long road trips a year where we might try it out, but for us, basic AP works just fine. Cheers from southern Illinois.
@I_dont_want_an_at Жыл бұрын
I was into tesla when the model s was revealed. I watched live as they revealed the model 3 prototype and looked forward to the time they were common. Now I'm enjoying that time. One day I'll own one I don't doubt. Pick up a used one for 10k
@benjamingreen95409 ай бұрын
It’s almost time, they’re selling for 20k now
@joshuamcallister33042 жыл бұрын
And here I am with a 2021 M3 with 60,000 miles already in 10 months. The car is dual motor, and my battery is still reading 324 miles with a full charge. I charge up to about 88% to 90% everyday but will generally top it off right before I leave out, and I use the 48amp Tesla home charger. I use this car to drive anywhere from 150 to 400 miles a day, sometimes more. But average out to around 6k miles a month give or take. In the Winter at 10 to 20 degrees fahrenheit, I average about 210 to 220 miles of realistic mileage on a full charge, but last spring summer and fall, I had a few full charges actually got me more than 350 miles of range. ( That was at cruising speeds of around 70mph and normal driving habits) I removed the 19s for a set of artisa 18s and taller tires, roads where I live are terrible, and my 19s have been bent and repaired. Since going to the 18s, my efficiency has gone up, and ride quality went wayyy up, and better yet haven't bent a wheel!! So to anybody out there that don't think a electric car "has enough range" for what they do, take it from me, you should consider one because I do almost 6x the amount of driving to the average person. I'm paying .07 cents per kw on super off peak hours, so it costs me anywhere from 4 to 5 bucks for a full charge, and when you work out the math, it's like 140 to 200 extra to my electric bill each month. Hope this comment helps anyone!
@Pomaufour2 жыл бұрын
Finally some real numbers. It is one thing to say your max range is that, because you never drop to 0% if you want to preserve your battery. I knew you'd have to charge only to 85% but you made a good point. You could top up to 100% just before you are heading out because - I think - staying at 100% hurts the battery only if it stays like that a long time. So driving right away would minimize the issue. So you could schedule it. Charge it to 85%, and 30min before heading out top up to 100%. Brilliant
@joshuamcallister33042 жыл бұрын
Yup and I'm also doing a full battery cycle too. Meaning doing that I'm nearly full charging it, but then I'll nearly drain the battery during my drive on that same day, versus letting the car sit there for a day or 2 at 85% then 2 days later it's at 50% then 2 more days it's nearly dead, needing a full charge. I put the car through full battery cycles daily, which is what those batteries were designed for, deep cycles.
@joshuamcallister33042 жыл бұрын
Little update, my battery now reads 330 miles at full charge and I'm at 71000 miles now
@martinharrington21632 жыл бұрын
Great review. I’ve been driving my son in laws model S (all the extras), and have loved it, but felt that there were a few things that weren’t up to par for (in terms of price) a premium vehicle. You mentioned them in your review, I.e. road noise, sloppy Ill conceived manufacturing etc. but, with all that, I love it. I love driving it , looking at it and being in it.
@aslye2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for sharing, Martin!
@manoman02 жыл бұрын
It's too expensive for what it is and its build quality is horrendous, however, I love the Model S.
@ShadeTreeBuilt094 ай бұрын
By far the best and most honest review. Got to the point, stayed on track with a car review and left politics and left nitpick nonsense out of it. I’m nearly sold on my first EV.
@EngineeringPerspective2 жыл бұрын
100% agree that highway road noise is my biggest complaint with my 2018. Also, I have FSD Beta and it’s not worth $12k in its current implementation, fingers crossed for the future.
@1620rx2 жыл бұрын
Not yet. I wish I could buy it now and buy my car later. 👀
@andrewrossnagel94332 жыл бұрын
I look at FSD as an investment. Yes its expensive but with most other manufacturers you will need to buy a whole new car for an updated system. Your model 3 will be state of the art of probably the next 10 years. Maybe longer
@CrazyWeeMonkey2 жыл бұрын
@@andrewrossnagel9433 It's not an investment, you're getting conned if you think it is...
@andrewrossnagel94332 жыл бұрын
@CrazyWeeMonkey Thats an interesting outlook that I will surely consider
@christianwilhite832 жыл бұрын
2021 Model 3 owner here....great review and very on point. My one and only complaint is the phantom braking, which makes Autopilot mostly unusable on the two lane roads we drive (especially in low light conditions). I sure hope this gets resolved, or at least improved, through software updates. Glad to see how well your M3 has held up after 100k miles - thank you for sharing!!
@teslakiller69592 жыл бұрын
It is not as good as he points out. The real degradation is 8%.
@fatal5102 жыл бұрын
@@teslakiller6959 no… it is as good as he pints out. That’s his experience.
@teslakiller69592 жыл бұрын
@@fatal510 No it is not. He is calculating wrong. His full rated range based on a specific constant is 325 miles. His odd 300 miles (because the gauge in the app is not accurate) gives him about 92% from the initial range. You can watch my channel to understand the math behind this...
@chriss47392 жыл бұрын
My '17 A4 also phantom breaks. Though I changed the settings from Early to Normal warning (also late available) and the problem went away.
@Conceptsexplainedsimply2 жыл бұрын
Yesterday I got back from a road trip vacation to Michigan from my home of St Louis, Missouri. I went from STL all the way up to the top of Michigan in Mackinaw Island, and I spent only $218 for supercharging. I have a standard range model 3, so I really felt those extra 2-3 chargers I had to use since my range is only 224 miles on full. I second what Andy says about getting the most range you can, however rest assured, you can still easily make these trips, even in a standard range model 3.
@Allan_A2 жыл бұрын
Nice review Andy, I don't think your battery longevity is abnormal. I put around 90K miles on a Chevy Bolt EV in 2 years, and degradation was 7% at 146K miles when I completed the GM buyback. My experience with tires and cost of ownership are similar to yours. I don't think everyone should be pushed to the biggest battery possible - I got a 40 kWh Nissan LEAF after the buyback, I live in Minnesota where it's cold 5 months, do rideshare, and it's perfectly fine. For me saving $20K buying within my budget was more important than a big battery for the reason you state - at home charging!
@theradicalnomad70832 жыл бұрын
Love the concept of electric cars but like you said, fiscal savings is only 10k every 4 years over a traditional car. I bought a motorcycle and was net positive on the purchase price from fuel savings after only 3 years. It's a good start but EV's still have a ways to go.
@Jaydoublyou2 жыл бұрын
I think it can be argued the savings are overshadowed by devaluation of the car
@tpc01x2 жыл бұрын
@@Jaydoublyou The other big problem is that after 100k miles the battery warranty expires; You could get a faulty cell and that could be potentially 5-15k to fix. Then there are wearable suspension components; ball joints, bushings, replacing shocks, etc, This stuff would need to get replaced eventually. This video doesn't touch on any maintenance like this.
@Jaydoublyou2 жыл бұрын
@@tpc01x All of that plus the eventual obsolescence of the tech in early EV cars make the long term savings questionable if quantifiable at all
@1942nn Жыл бұрын
Excellent video. All three main aspects of owning a Tesla are presented here, no bias. I am glad I bought a Tesla 50 ... days ago. I really enjoy it with its autopilot, Traffic Awareness and Auto Steer. I only have near 300 miles on it total. Still learning on how to maximize its range. City driving at speed below 45 miles/hour seem to consume less battery energy than highway driving. the trip's reports are great to monitor this aspect. Blown tire on long trip when I am in no where location is a concern, so I bought a spare tire kit (weighting 50 lbs) to bring on long trip JUST IN CASE. That gives me peace of mind.
@revamp88357 ай бұрын
From my understanding city will always be better than highway. Because highway driving, your regenerative braking won’t be used as much. You’ll be at a constant speed = using more power
@ezpoppy552 жыл бұрын
Nicely done, Andy. Informative and comprehensive, minus all the hyperbole and breathless enthusiasm. Teslas are great, and don’t need to be overhyped - the facts, as you brilliantly lay out, are compelling on their own. I’m at nearly one year of ownership, and 10,640 miles (love that app!), so I’ve got a ways to go yet to 100,000 miles. But I too am looking forward to many miles of EV ownership! Keep up the great work!
@domk29932 жыл бұрын
Appreciate you breaking it down Andy! You made a very valid point. Pre pandemic (early 2020), I was going to buy a Tesla Model 3 but instead I went with the 2017 Mercedes E300 due to thinking I might run out of a charge and Not being able to just pull up to a gas station. Back in 2020 there were some “super chargers” but not how there is today. My Mercedes’ interior is ridiculously nice and luxurious, but the Tesla model 3’s interior is simple, but still very nice. I call it the Apple iPhone of cars. If I could go back to 2020, I would’ve gotten the Model 3. The maintenance on my E300 is not cheap. Oil changes (full synthetic) are anywhere from $130-$150 depending on where you go, which hold for 5,000 miles. The service A is around $800, while the service B is $2,300. They check all your fluids, top them off, change the spark plugs, and that’s pretty much it. And that labor is what hikes that price up. Also, I’ve had to change my tires multiple times. The E300 does not come with a spare, but it has Pirelli run flats which are costly. They run about $350-$375 per tire. Only good part about them is if you get a nail or the tire goes flat and loses all tire pressure at 0, you can still drive on it for about 50-100 miles no faster than 55mph. My air vent makes a minor clicking sound that I can hear because I drive my car alot, but it’s not noticeable to someone who’s not paying attention to it. I brought it in to Mercedes’ and they for one charged me $215.00 just to “run a diagnostic” on it, and for two said in order for them to fix the minor issue they have to replace the entire air vent panel - they told me $3,000. It’s not effecting the air or anything, you just hear a small click on full blast so I left it as is. My point is, the maintenance is a lot. The Tesla Model 3 doesn’t have maintenance. Thanks for the video!
@lorihamilton98212 жыл бұрын
Hi Dom-I have the exact same Mercedes you do. Maintenance fees are insane. I’m thinking of switching to regular tires because run flats are so expensive. I did get a flat tire and it was very uncomfortable and loud driving on these tires. I only drove 2 miles but very slowly and on the shoulder of the road. I Live in a condo so cannot charge at home. If I could I would definitely trade Mercedes for the model 3.
@domk29932 жыл бұрын
@@lorihamilton9821 I agree. Run flats come in handy but too expensive. I drove about 25 miles on the run flat at 50mph on the freeway 1st lane. Mercedes is expensive to maintain. That also played a part in why I didn’t get the Model 3 back in 2020 was because my complex doesn’t have a charging station
@markbullock37412 жыл бұрын
I drive a Mercedes Class B Electric Drive. No maintenance -- the best of both worlds.
@llambimico68332 жыл бұрын
Tesla's services are as expensive as Mercedes is..
@domk29932 жыл бұрын
@@llambimico6833 but there’s no maintenance on a Tesla lol
@nthrixx23886 ай бұрын
I commute 90 miles round trip every single day plus personal driving and got a 2023 Model 3 long range and it has been a game changer since i also work for an electric company that has chargers at my office not superchargers but just like normal charge point chargers and its 100% free for employees i save 200+ a month on gas compared to my subaru and my commute is 99% 2 lane highway in a rural area and normal auto pilot works amazing.
@casIIsac2 жыл бұрын
I absolutely loved my 3 and it led me to the new S. Build was mediocre but the pros outweighed the cons by far. So comfortable, fun to drive, easy on long trips, economical, reliable, the list goes on. Could have kept it for much much longer if I had to.
@legros7312 жыл бұрын
So in conclusion nothing special most car a fun to drive reliable and confortable But the built quality is shit the part are super expensive and never in stock super long wait time for an appointment to the dealer and you can't do any work on the car easily without Elon making a tantrums about it
@brendykes65992 жыл бұрын
@@legros731 most cars are nowhere near as fun to drive as an EV (that’s right, most any EV. Chevy Bolt is more fun than ‘73 Trans Am). Service appointments are maybe a week out, comparable to other mechanics. In a pinch, I’ve driven to the service center for an immediate emergency fix.
@legros7312 жыл бұрын
@@brendykes6599 you compare a 73 trans am to an ev what a moron why don't you compare them to a Ford model T Personally a like my car of the 3 pedal variety A will take my s2000 before any ev it's small lightweight and convertible with no stupid driving aid this is a fun car that you can push to is limit in the corner Straight line acceleration is fun for the first week but after you get accustomed to it it's no more fun you will want more but guest what you can't modify it to make it faster Ice car can easily be modified to make them faster or better handling I don't see tesla or any other ev manufacturers selling better motor/battery/bms and where do you use 1000hp (tesla plaid)it way more fun to drive a slow car fast that a fast car slow If they where so fun to drive can you tell my why people's waste 10 000$ on autopilot for the car to drive itself lol So mazda(miata,rx7,rx8)/honda(civic,integra,s2000,nsx)/wv(golf r32)/porche/bmw all model but particularly the m model/Nissan(s13,s14,s15,300zx,skyline,350z,370z,400z) and Toyota (brz/86,supra) are not fun to drive a chevy bolt is surely way more fun lol😅😂🤣 And the best part of normal car is tinkering with them to make them better to your liking and unique and guest what no need for a appointment a can do all the repair myself with easy to get part Want something fun the 2 step on my turbo civic is the definition of fun spit 2 foot flame and sound like a shotgun is stupid fast and can do burnout in 4 gear on the highway it's at 600hp but can raise the boost for 900hp if a want but it's useless on the street unless you want to burn the tire at 900hp a can destroy a tesla plaid super easily in a roll race 1000hp and 5000lbs vs 900hp and 2500lbs
@rscranman20022 жыл бұрын
@@legros731 poor lil triggered man boy.
@chad8992 жыл бұрын
average aggressive gas car user
@rjr2jefe2 жыл бұрын
Thank you. Great report that I listened to over my lunch break. I bought a Y in September 2020. I’ve owned easily 30 cars. This one’s the best, for all the reasons you mentioned. But, my insurance is very expensive mostly because when first owning her, I was driving to the ramp in my parking garage and hit the left rear door as I turned too tight and the repair was super expensive and then my insurance increased dramatically. This was my first accident in 30 years. So, repair of the body is more expensive than I’ve been told comparable cars cost. And they recommend that you go to certified body shops.
@bico15922 жыл бұрын
My 2020 M3 had a similar situation. The big problem with Tesla's is repair time. It took 2+ months to repair a damaged rear fender. This is my only car and $1200 was spent on a rental vehicle (Insurance covers 30 days). From what I've read, 2 months is normal repair time on Tesla's. Also be warned, my M3 which is always parked in a garage, was left out in weather, under a tree, and with birds in that tree. Probably another $200+ to have it polished and I'm sure my insurance will go up.
@tswej2 жыл бұрын
I purchased a model s 2 yrs ago for my wife and for the 1st yr she struggled with the range with in real world is a little over 300 miles. Today she loves it because she now realizes all of the places we travel are less than 300 miles from home and on the few trips over 100miles we stay overnight and charge at the location for free. To date we have only paid for home charging because friends relatives and hotels have always allowed free charging. Tesla app estimates that we save close to $250 per month by not using gas which is about $3k a yr plus to date we don't have any out of pocket maintenance expenses.
@shawnbillings65912 жыл бұрын
Thanks Andy! I watched a lot of your videos before I purchased my first Model 3 in March of 2021. So far I love it and don't regret my purchase at all.
@Sean-vh8pm2 жыл бұрын
Your range current range is amazing. My 2020 M3P was 310 now down to 275 miles estimated. But in the sub 10°C I'm lucky to reach 200 miles. Oh, and only 18,000 miles covered in 2 years.
@MartinSage2 жыл бұрын
Haha I ride my Triumph 15,000/ yr
@simonvalent2 жыл бұрын
well, looks like it's a temperature and how much time you keep it a high charge problem. It's a batteries characterstic not a tesla's.
@Helloooooo2 жыл бұрын
Same with my car, I’m tempted to trade it in for a long range model 3.
@andrewbrown7990 Жыл бұрын
I have had my Model 3 Long Range RWD for 4 years and 50K mikes. Same exact model, Year, and color as Andy’s. Very similar experience to Andy’s but with even fewer maintenance issues or costs. Two other tips to be aware of for Tesla owners: 1. I rarely use the friction brakes given the regen braking, and if you live in an area where they salt the roads, this can result in rusted out brake discs. So I had to replace those with ceramic ones that resist rust. Every so often in winter you should brake hard to debride that rust off the brake discs. 2. Careful of hail on the aluminum body! We had some large hail a few years ago and it dented my Tesla which is made of softer aluminum, while my wife’s Volvo had no dents. That was a body shop visit.
@haypro4713 Жыл бұрын
Brake discs are a high carbon steel, they all rust easily just use them hard for a few minutes and the rust will wear away
@Zozzle12 Жыл бұрын
I don't own a Tesla but I have a comment on the rusty brake disc issue. Whenever I drive in the rain or right after I have washed my car I drag the brakes for a few seconds just to wipe and heat the water off the rotors. I will drive my car around the block after washing it in the driveway or drag my brakes entering my garage if I arrive home in the rain.
@AIisDriving2 жыл бұрын
You covered the 100,000 miles on point. When people ask me questions or start nagging, I’ll be telling them to watch this video. I also hate the update, removing the seat warmer buttons and defroster, feels dumb having to click here and there for pop up menus, also not making it easy to switch between FM radio and my phone.
@petepenn12 жыл бұрын
Winter kills the battery and these are not made for Cold Canadian winters. At -20C the power is 50% less if not in a heated garage. The batteries are Not Recycled. Green Dream ?
@lengould92622 жыл бұрын
@@petepenn1 references for claims?
@atodaso16682 жыл бұрын
@@lengould9262 that's how it works. Does your phone battery last the same if you leave it in the cold?
@atodaso16682 жыл бұрын
Its only 4 years old...
@ronaldlenz57452 жыл бұрын
Use voice commands.
@testattestdotnet2 жыл бұрын
After 50k+ miles in my model 3, the only problem I had was a suspension arm failed that was covered under warranty, and some creaking noises from the steering column. My battery has not held up as well as Andy's, I have about 296mi range. I suspect the degradation started getting worse after I no longer had the ability to charge it every day. I changed my tires at about 45k miles, which is much longer than I should have waited. The road noise is a thing at highway speeds, but I also hear motor whine between 20 and 30mph. Maybe that's only on AWD cars with a front motor. I can usually get 225mi on a 100% charge at highway speeds by which I mean 80mph or so. I don't find the computer that accurate when it comes to stop times and such. I frequently drive faster than it says I should and still reach my destination with charge to spare. That might be due to the navigation system not having elevation data. The worst range I ever had was driving highway speeds in Chicago in 15f weather. I think I managed barely 160mi of range that way on a full charge. I have a 2018 I bought before autopilot became standard, and I don't miss it. I would not have bought a $50k+ car if I did not like driving. All in all, its an excellent car.
@sepehryavari87982 жыл бұрын
Irani?
@great4ever8452 жыл бұрын
Lol evs have a long way to go
@JustxLiving9092 жыл бұрын
People that love driving generally don’t buy electric cars js
@SamS-bg3bk Жыл бұрын
@@JustxLiving909 not true
@JoshNulled Жыл бұрын
Did you notice it when you turned?
@MuffinzGamingChannel Жыл бұрын
Fantastic review! This has swayed me to buy a Model 3. I am currently a Jeep Wrangler owner and, given my Wrangler is worth about the same as a newer Model 3, it is clear to me - just from financial standpoint - a Model 3 would save me so much in gas, oil, and maintenance, I have only owned a hybrid (Prius) and I think the Tesla gives you even more value than a Prius but so much more in terms of performance. Thank you for taking the time to put this video together. So may Tesla bashers out there giving out misinformation. It was nice to hear from a long-term owner. Thanks again!
@integra1ish2 жыл бұрын
Andy, you nailed every single points from the best to the worse of the early adopters model 3. Great 👍 Job with video ! We purchased the exact same vehicle & colour back in 2018 in Canada and now has over 72,000km without any issues and counting, we still love the vehicle and would not give up for anything.
@jlb77072 жыл бұрын
Where in Canada are you? How is it holding up in the snow and cold?
@integra1ish2 жыл бұрын
@@jlb7707 I am in southwestern Ontario which is about 125 miles from Detroit Michigan, I never had any issues in winter with a good set of winter tires,
@Soh902 жыл бұрын
I’m really happy that you’ve had a positive experience so far. I have a 2021 Model Y, although in a year I only put on 8,000 miles. Holy smokes you drive a lot! I watched your previous videos so I’ve been caring for my battery in the same way you’ve cared for yours (charging at home, taking it easy on the HVAC, and not charging past 80% for almost 99% of the current life of my car. Here’s to 200,000 miles to you! And as for me, here’s to maybe cracking 50,000 miles one day 😂😂
@brianlee684911 ай бұрын
I just bought an almost identical 2023 model 3 Red rear drive black interior silver wheels. So far after 1 week we are very happy. Thank you 👍
@great4ever8454 ай бұрын
How is the battery when driving In the summer time ?
@brianlee68494 ай бұрын
@@great4ever845 I haven't noticed much difference. My 3 has a heat pump so ac and heater have little affects on range. Thank you
@guiseppehammer2 жыл бұрын
Really good content, well thought out, practical, and just well laid out - enjoyment, reliability and cost. Thanks Andy!!
@aslye2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for watching!
@GavinScrimgeour2 жыл бұрын
That’s phenomenal! 2.2% deterioration after 100,000 miles. On average, I’d say my Nissan leaf will deteriorate 2.5% every year, however I suppose that’s relative to the battery. You must be very please with your car.
@briannugent15572 жыл бұрын
Hi, Andy! I'm in the same boat as you. 5/2018 M3 LR RWD, 106,000 miles, 304-ish miles rated range at 100% in the app. To be fair, though, we did get a 5% range boost as reported by Teslarati on 2/18/2019 to get us nominally up to 325 miles on a fresh battery by reducing the buffer size. So, It's physically closer to 7%, but 2% relative to what we bought. Couldn't be happier. And, yes, my 2013 24kWh Nissan Leaf is 9 years old with 99,800 miles and down to 78% SOH, so active cooling does make a big difference.
@ΒασίληςΞυλογιαννόπουλος-ο5ρ Жыл бұрын
I am a new driver and I have a 24-year-old car. There was water flooding the engine and I paid 900€ after 4 months of owning the thing! Luckily it doesn't appear to have any other mechanical issues, it has 283.500km on its back after all. I plan to keep it for 3-4 years and get something better and newer when I start making my own money.
@AaronMcFarland2 жыл бұрын
Completely agree with all these items, after owning my Model 3 for nearly 30,000 miles.
@AaronMcFarland2 жыл бұрын
But I am only at 295 miles on 2020 LR at 100% looking at the Tesla app at 28,332 miles.
@mdesmet91112 жыл бұрын
Totally agree, biggest issue for me too is the phantom breaking and in my opinion it happens quite often. No fun when cruising on the highway at 130kph (80mph) and someone is behind you... Have you had many issues with your car? I only have about 22.000 km (14.000 miles) on it and already had two sensors for the airbags malfunctioning, had one of my driver door henges replaced, have enough consensation in my rear light to keep a goldfish in it, my charging port won't open manually and my automatic trunk only functions half the time... I still love the car, but I'm a bit worried about all the 'small' issues I'm experiencing.
@wdbldr672 жыл бұрын
Yeah you have a service visit in your future.
@lanzer222 жыл бұрын
Better get any problems resolved while the car is still under warranty. Anytime a traditional automaker release a new generation of the same model, reliability goes down as they work out the kinks. Tesla built a brand new car from the ground up, so I fully expect that there would be plenty of small issues. So far there aren't any complaints about the drive train, and sounds like they over-engineered it for durability, which is appreciated.
@dovely82 Жыл бұрын
Your video caught my attention for a reason. It concerned me so much that the vehicle would be so expensive. The maintenance and being stuck on the side of the road was definitely a concern, but you did a great job of breaking down the car. You have inspired me to purchase this car for my birthday in September, thanks to this video.
@tconc85949 ай бұрын
Don’t dude it’s cheap feeling trash
@coleslaw4u6442 жыл бұрын
Great stuff, Andy? I think you covered most of the questions future owners of Tesla vehicles have on their minds. 1) Was it a good purchase for your use case vs lesser initial cost ICE vehicles 2) Is it reliable over long term/high mileage - especially post Tesla warranty and 3) Is it still an exciting daily driver 4 years in. I’m waiting for a LR Model Y, due for receipt sometime later this fall and I’m still shopping the options out there - including the Ionia 5 and EV6. But I keep coming back to the Model Y as providing the most value for dollar. Sure, it’s very expensive - all of these cars are - and that’s the biggest barrier for most shoppers. But if you can afford it, it sure looks like the 3 and Y are the route to go. Thx for your continued efforts in keeping us in the know about your Tesla ownership journey!
@svenjorgensenn84182 жыл бұрын
My Subaru will last me 30 years with basic maintenance and I can switch to alcohol as a cleaner fuel. My model 3 DM had issues from the gate.... Tesla has too many factory and service problems for me to take EVs from them seriously.
@helenmak56632 жыл бұрын
@@svenjorgensenn8418 Keeping a car for 30 yrs is a truly Green way to go. Practical way to save the planet and above all more muscles in your saving.
@alexandertecle2 жыл бұрын
I appreciate you touching on Autopilot vs FSD. My work commute is about 300mi/week and a big factor in considering a Model 3 for me is whether autopilot would be sufficient for for those long stretches of interstate. Sounds like it! Great review 👍🏾
@kevinhu69612 жыл бұрын
@Dude with Opinion the dude actually got fired for saying BS LOL
@dirtysouthclimbing2 жыл бұрын
Autopilot does its best on the interstate. I use it all the time.
@ikani12 жыл бұрын
I tend to describe it as AP handles the boring parts of driving pretty well. It's not something I'm willing to take my attention away from for more than a few seconds at a time but it's nice to have it keep the car in the lane and keep with the flow of traffic. I have an 80 mile commute each way (so only drive it once a week) and it's great to have. I don't think I'd actually gain anything from FSD.
@mystith2 жыл бұрын
@Dude with Opinion you don't understand how ai works
@nuggetsaltshaker95202 жыл бұрын
@Dude with Opinion I trust a computer more than I trust a person.
@TommyNguyen1010 Жыл бұрын
My audi Q7 using 93 grade gas and it costing me 250-300 per week. My Model Y coming this June 13 so I am super excited to see some saving on that department. On top of that I have solar panels which will help bring the cost to charge down even further. Overall, great review.
@williamwilliam7282 жыл бұрын
That was an awesome analysis of your 4 years with the model 3. Thank you so much for the break down and honest concise information. If anybody is sitting on the fence about purchasing a Tesla, they shouldn't be now!
@naps89062 жыл бұрын
fake news. that computer is not truth. we need you to do actual live test. drive 303 miles and see if it lasts. that's how real tests are done.
@jeffklenk96432 жыл бұрын
Dumb iPhone car drive a v8 like an adult
@joelshewey7982 жыл бұрын
Yep talked me right out of it
@cythose40592 жыл бұрын
@Yeah I’m sure i mean yeah, to charge an Ev its cheap now but i think that price will triple if more and more would buy Ev cars eventually, so if you would look gas price vs energy price right now its 100% worth it, also i would go for tesla for this reason, charging Ev car from where i am is around 40% cheaper than a ICE car
@tnbrfller2 жыл бұрын
There is a lawsuit pending now, because a self driving Tesla has killed a Motorcycle rider.
@SpawnPoiint2 жыл бұрын
Great long term review Andy 🙏
@aslye2 жыл бұрын
Thanks! Hope you’re still enjoying yours as well 👍
@SmartEnergyLab Жыл бұрын
Thanks Andy, I’ve just bought the base Model 3 and since I live off-grid on solar power I guess my savings will be even higher!
@SmartEnergyLab Жыл бұрын
BTW, I live on an off-grid community in Australia, and in the past two years 7 of the 30 households have switched to EV’s
@danwettlaufer63642 жыл бұрын
Nice review. I think owners find they want to drive everywhere after purchasing the car, just so much fun! Autopilot plus amazing supercharger network makes me a habitual road tripper.. I have a 2021 Model 3, already several improvements and looking forward to 100K+ miles driving. Also, an owner of a Model S since 2014 - well over 100K miles and still going strong. Thanks for the content.
@johnleeuw30222 жыл бұрын
Really excellent vid Andy! I've been fixing my own cars for over 25 years. I'm tired of it. Tired of the waste it generates, time it consumes, and the cost. So far my '20 MYP (22K mi) has required zero service other than replacing the carbon trim that was slowly becoming detached and the rear hatch had to be realigned (would not longer automatically open/close). Both extremely minor fixes, covered by warranty. I live in northern Vermont, it gets very cold here, January was pretty cold this year. Lots of low single digits and some below zero. The car has always performed well. We use it to go skiing which is about 100 miles round trip. We have two other ICE vehicles that we are going to replace, they very rarely get used since the MYP arrived. Was hoping CT would start prod EOY, but guess that's not gonna happen. Might have to sell my truck and buy another MY in the meantime. Your review was really comprehensive...nice job!!
@fivish2 жыл бұрын
My KIA petrol car has had zero faults in its 29,000 miles from new.
@legros7312 жыл бұрын
Lol any new car will be trouble free for most of is life unless you buy the first year of a new model or get a lemon which can happen to any car manufacturer
@IanSfirebirdflame2 жыл бұрын
Question for you - what's the advertised range for your Tesla, and what's the range you usually got back in January with the very cold weather?
@johnleeuw30222 жыл бұрын
@@IanSfirebirdflame Advertised was 310mi I think. Highway range I'd say is 200mi in the very cold, there's also decent elevation change where I live. Less than highway speeds you'll get more range. I'm not trying to set records so my highway speed is between 75 - 80. Supercharger network has been awesome. I don't do what the car tells me to as far as charging. I have my own strategy that I prefer. I arrive super low, my best was 1% SOC, but typical is 5%, winter time I'm more conservative, aim for 10% (I'm talking road trip charging). Get awesome charging performance. Less waiting, more driving. I installed a 240V 50A outlet at my in-laws who live 300 miles away. We make one stop for 15 minutes to super charge and really don't even need that long. Plug in when I get to their place. It's great! Anyway, happy to share my experience if you have any other questions.
@IanSfirebirdflame2 жыл бұрын
@@johnleeuw3022 Thank you so much for that info! A family member of mine is possibly considering a M3, and cold weather performance was the biggest drawback.
@samwu434 Жыл бұрын
Thank you for the honest view. I have been looking into getting a new EV. Currently driving a 1st gen Nissan leaf. Last year did a battery swap, but range is only at 70miles. was looking at the Hyundai EV, but the charging stations are sometimes an issue. Where you don't know if those chargers are working or not. I faced this many times when i needed to charge my leaf. So i am contemplating on a Tesla, there is a sense of relief that you know their chargers will be working. With the other chargers EvGO, Chargepoint, Blink, Electrify American, you are taking a gamble. Thank you for your breakdown in the following... Your history with service & maintenance cost. off-peak and on-peak charge times Road noise, Cabin noise, Tire life, service intervals, roadside assistance and many others. Now i am seriously looking into Tesla, even thou i know it is a bit more costly, but with the amenities, the cost is nothing. Especially with the cost of ownership compare to other EVs and ICE vehicle.
@gasbelle34202 жыл бұрын
great recap of your 100k miles experience Andy. The battery degradation was particularly interesting as this is the first question I’m asked when someone inquires about my 2022 Y. Not sure why so many people are nervous about this. There are tons of people who have a lot of miles on their EVs with similar results as yours. My wife and I plan on driving our Y for at least 10 years and hope to get the same service as you have experienced. Thanks again! PS: I am one of the few people who was in the first wave of Ford F-150 Lightning reservation holders who got to convert to an order. Should get it around May (hopefully!). Will be interesting to see how it does as well! 👍🏼
@brianlewis83202 жыл бұрын
Congrats on the F150 lightning purchase, very intriguing EV and will be interested to see how it performs and holds up over time. I'm a tesla owner and love the car even with the shortcomings but it doesn't stop me from appreciating other EVS,
@Philipp-l5l2 жыл бұрын
Awesome video Andy! Thanks for sharing all that experience. I am on my 2nd Model 3 in the last two years, was lucky to exchange it for 0 cost to a now 21 model. But I love driving it and friends have had the same experience as you had. Sadly, here in Germany, we are really really lucky if we can charge below 25 Euro cents...on the road it is more like 50, at superchargers as well. So the actual driving cost here comes close to a gas car. And... With all the energy price hikes here... We will see what 22 brings. Hugs to Kentucky! Been there, love it 🤗
@polarberri2 жыл бұрын
Perfect breakdown! It was well-organized, informative, and interesting, without any annoying frills. I never thought I'd be convinced it's smarter purchase financially than a $20k gas car but you brought all the facts.
@bodyshotjake74752 жыл бұрын
The department of energy has the real stats on the cost difference between the 2. for the initial cost difference you would have to drive the EV nearly 400,000 miles before saving money. i.e. my ice gets 31mpg average = average cost per mile at $5.00 = $.16 a mile. EV is averaging $.08-.13 a mile per the Department of energy. Not worth it at all considering the power grid of every city and suburb in the country would need ~160% more electric energy bandwidth to charge them all. This would raise your taxes by a considerable amount and also raise everyone electric bill by more than 2x.
@ralphpal Жыл бұрын
There are no more 20 k cars It's not 30 plus
@ralphpal Жыл бұрын
@Atheistme I didn't know you wrote it so long ago Buy new Cara costvactually 30 k The 20 k car went out the window
@LucidVisionMane Жыл бұрын
@@ralphpalfacts can’t find any at 20k with low mileage and decent enough to see myself in.
@severnsea Жыл бұрын
@@LucidVisionMane That's your choice of course but they are out there. In the video the guy is saving around $2500 a year in fuel costs but he does a lot of mileage. You're not going to get anywhere close to that unless you do the mileage and if you don't do a lot of mileage you're not likely to be saving anything. And none of this takes into account the potential cost of new batteries. I don't even know if he's factored in the higher buying cost compared to an ice car and the higher cost of tyres and insurance. I know there are claims of very high mileages but if they do fail - and some will - the replacement cost probably wouldn't be worth it. For an older ICE car you can get reconditioned replacement engines quite cheaply.
@DirtyTesla2 жыл бұрын
Great video. I can't believe it's been 4 years. Wow. Still going great tho! And I can confirm, my 2021 Model Y is leagues quieter than my 2018 3 was.
@metaljew44562 жыл бұрын
Why doesn’t Tesla advertise their running changes to their cars? Sounds to me that the Model Y for instance has undergone many under the skin changes that are not visible but make a huge difference in driving dynamics and range! Tesla is not a stationary target like many people think they are. They might only offer a handful of car/crossover models but they sure do change and improve them over the years!
@ken-mb5cp2 жыл бұрын
@@metaljew4456 Because the internet is full of Tesla owners saying this for free. Most people discount advertising anyway. I know I do.
@johnvana12072 жыл бұрын
Andy, loved the snapshot of you / your car and the 100K. It really caught my eye. Your coverage of this topic was great as to how solidly Teslas are built. 👍👍👍
@JL-xg7xb Жыл бұрын
Great review Andy! I got my model 3 six months before you and like you I still absolutely love my car.
@carsgunsandguitars2 жыл бұрын
This basically proves the long term reliability and cost advantages. When you consider the $12k in gas savings over 100k miles, and the $7500 tax credit, it all makes sense.
@georgeoliver83002 жыл бұрын
Then it doesn’t make as much sense when a similar spec petrol car would only cost 30k in the first place and not start dropping to bits in only 4 years
@carsgunsandguitars2 жыл бұрын
@@georgeoliver8300 Dropping to bits? And what similar spec car is $30k? Keep in mind you can get a model 3 S performance for $50K that runs 3 sec 0-60 and has an incredible safety rating, not to mention the Tesla curb appearl. There isn't a similarly speced $30K car.
@hobo1704 Жыл бұрын
@@carsgunsandguitarsTesla curb appeal 🤣 Most boring looking car on the planet..
@carsgunsandguitars Жыл бұрын
@hobo1704 if you think a model S or a Cybertruck are boring to look at you are high
@hobo1704 Жыл бұрын
@@carsgunsandguitars cyber truck 😂 Stupidest looking thing ever made, wouldn't be seen dead driving one..
@michaelcain212 жыл бұрын
Fantastic breakdown. Saving 25k over the life of the vehicle makes the actual cost of the car around 25K as well. What a steal! there are only a handful of cars in the world less expensive than that new.
@toby99992 жыл бұрын
Don't think that would work for me. A model 3 costs around $70,000. I spend $35 per week on fuel. Even assuming electricity is free and zero maintenance, a model 3 would be more expensive over the long term than my current car because of the up front costs, financing and insurances wouldn't be offset by the small weekly fuel savings. Purchase price need to drop by 50% to get me intetested.
@josephoberlander2 жыл бұрын
@@toby9999 The common math works out that if you drive 15K a year, you basically break even, and only if you drive more than that do you see significant savings. The problem is the people who drive 5-8K a year. They won't ever see a benefit over just getting a nice Civic Hatchback or similar. $25K and $3K a year at most - you'll be 10K under the base MSRP after a decade. Add in insurance, financing, 7-10% registration fees and taxes, and so on and it's closer to 20K less simply because a $25K car is so much less money tied up than a $55K car. Which also is a much smaller payment, netting you better cash-flow. I am personally a huge EV fan, but economically I can see why they still are a luxury item and Honda and Toyota still sell every gasoline powered car that they make.
@flightguy322 жыл бұрын
This was pretty informative, I wish other folks on KZbin spent time with their EVs before they gave an opinion instead of zipping around back roads for a couple of hours and then giving an opinion.
@richardconrad6982 жыл бұрын
Great video overview, thank you! When I worked in automotive, we did a lot of Tesla work. It was impressive with how fast they move, but it also scared me because of traditional automakers' mindset. I assumed fast pace meant more errors. Yeah, there were still cosmetic issues(panel gaps) with Teslas, but I never saw frame issues! That said, I never buy first generation anything! So this video has really helped curb my fears with owning a Tesla. Well, and "It’s The Superchargers, Stupid | In Depth" video that explains the charging network. Definitely keeping this as an option for a good used vehicle in a few years. I'm not buying new! Good to know the batteries are still good at 100k miles, as I keep my vehicles well over 200k, and do maintenance myself. Swapping Prius cells is kind of a pain(time consuming but simple), i'm curious how DIY Tesla cells are?
@zzzzzz...99022 жыл бұрын
How hard is it to work on a Tesla? Are the parts available to the average joe who wants to fix a problem themselves assuming something is not covered under warranty?
@funtimeproductions51212 жыл бұрын
@@zzzzzz...9902 Now that is a hard question to answer...lol
@richardconrad6982 жыл бұрын
@KZbin Account I guess it depends on your long term goals. They move fast and it is impressive, but they also work you a lot, from what i've heard. Starting out, absolutely if you can get into there!!! Personally, I'm thankful to be out of automotive! Currently in the Food Industry doing CAD/IT, and also doing financial services on the side, with a company that is paying for all of my licensing, can't beat that! Happy to chat with ya.
@MrKyGuy2 жыл бұрын
That’s great that you mentioned the insurance costs for this vehicle. Something I’ve never quite thought about it. Thanks for the great review!
@dymd3z2 жыл бұрын
My wife and I got our model 3 SR+ last summer, and even though it’s almost at 30,000km, we could sell it today used and make more money than what it cost us. It’s crazy how the prices of the vehicle fluctuate like that.
@trueblue4l1f32 жыл бұрын
Awesome video dude! I love my model 3 even more now! Did 16k miles in two years, absolutely no problems and going strong 😁
@Kinghippi32 жыл бұрын
It better lol. You haven’t even broke your tires in
@mellowvalentine93542 жыл бұрын
@@Kinghippi3 fr lol
@MrDance4meh2 жыл бұрын
One of the best vehicles you’ve purchased along with one of the best videos you’ve put out there! Awesome editing, story line & many rich details
@1798iscomingback9 ай бұрын
I have looked everywhere and I can not find anyone that have really considered ALL costs of ownership, including depreciation, tires, etc. While it MAY be true that you are saving $ on gasoline and engine oil changes, those are the smallest costs of a car ownership. My son have a Mazda 3 with 190K miles and his girlfriend have a Mazda 6 with 250K miles, both cars still do 30mpg in city and ~45mpg on highway and the engines do not leak or burn oil but in comparison the tires last 60K miles and because they cost less than $30K when new and are Japanese, the depreciation (both are more than 10 years old now) is really low. A model 3 is around the same size but around here we have 2 year old Model 3s being sold for ~$25K.... That is a heck of a depreciation cost ($12K/year) that no savings in fuel and or regular maintenance can compensate for....
@KyleKetcher228 ай бұрын
I have been researching this and what I've found is that if you have the charge port at home and you rely on that to charge for a majority of your charges, this will save you tons BUT i do not have the option for this and I would heavily rely on superchargers for my almost 90 mile commute daily. My situation would not be very good to invest in an electric vehicle
@GallAnonim-jx2cz2 ай бұрын
that's why you always buy second hand. Value drop in 3-4years is massive, but battery degradation just minor. Here in China new tesla3 cost 30k usd, 4 years old cost 15k usd.
@tdtesla2 жыл бұрын
I love my M3 - the tech is incredible & it’s just so much FUN to drive!!
@Dad_of_War2 жыл бұрын
M3 is a BMW
@tdtesla2 жыл бұрын
@@Dad_of_War Done that too, but M3LR - better?
@jadoei132 жыл бұрын
Great review, I do wonder what it will be like in a couple of years as warranty runs out and more expensive things start to fail like a battery module or electric motor. In principle those repairs shouldn't be too expensive but given Teslas stand on right to repair they might be a lot more expensive than most. It would be sad if the car is worthless after 10 years but if the repair situation doesn't drastically change I also wouldn't be surprised. Not that a company like Mercedes is doing much better, you're not allowed to open the hood on an EQS, but a serious consideration nonetheless.
@hughjazzole20372 жыл бұрын
$22,000 for new baTTERIES
@shortyorc1212 жыл бұрын
@Marauder teslas will be worthless after 10 years. The batteries will be dying original owners will be unloading them. There is no way someone will buy one knowing the battery is on its way out, and a 20k repair bill is around the corner, or a used 10 year testla will be almost as expensive as a new one because the 20k battery was replaced. Time will tell but my bet is most will end up in the junk yards and landfills, with their batteries pulled out for recycling. Evs will do more harm then good is my bet.
@trizkial75922 жыл бұрын
Teslas are cool but I will never ever support a company that doesn’t support the right to repair. Tesla should go under for their ridiculous stance in that. We need laws against this immediately
@leny78292 жыл бұрын
1st time viewer and 1st time I've seen a video on a "old" Tesla. You're probably the first to make me actually feel more comfortable with the idea of owning an EV. I don't drive much now so may not be worth it but you gave me more to think about especially the repair costs.
@Ultimateum23 Жыл бұрын
I leased a Tesla for a couple years, and now looking to buy one. Those two years completely converted me and I simply cannot go back to any other car, it's just a different animal. Held up so well, and really felt bad letting it go. Try the lease option if you're willing, that way you spend much less and see whether you would enjoy the car over a longer term.
@leny7829 Жыл бұрын
@@Ultimateum23 Never leased before but something to think about. Probably would purchase if I really do convert. Now got to think about adding PV panels to the house.
@RandyBooker2 жыл бұрын
Great video Andy! I love my 2021 Tesla Model 3!
@aslye2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for watching, Randy! That’s great to hear.
@dr.projectx51422 жыл бұрын
@@nxp22 I drive a 2017 bolt ev it driving good . Basic car and gets the job done. Currently at 52500 miles on it. And they can be bought for anywhere in between from 18k to 24k out the door. And 230 miles of range and 55kw on electrify America chargers.
@jakedank27462 жыл бұрын
Ev car buyers are mind children, Mind children are easily led - and easily misled.
@crankyoldguy22 жыл бұрын
@@jakedank2746 Well, Jake, let's just say that if we ARE mind children, we are smart enough to know a good thing when we find it. Right now, my 'gas mileage' is infinity. And, since I charge my Tesla with solar power, my co$t per mile is pennies for the power. What are you paying at the pump?
@user-dd1bb4tw4r2 жыл бұрын
@@nxp22 $52,000 now. I got my Model 3 LR in December just in time before the price hike yesterday. Still spent $56,000 after taxes and stuff. Base price was $48 I think
@rmkep2 жыл бұрын
Great summation of M3 SR @100K ownership Andy. Your videos have been a good resource for me and I have 2 Tesla's in the garage (MY LR and M3 SR) with a shared Wall Charger. Love both vehicles and your report matches my more limited Tesla experience. I also bought a Serial 1 ebike (Rush Cty Speed) that I saw you review and I agree with you take on that product as well. Keep up the good work! BTW, I think the road noise issue has been much improved for both the M3 and MY. We've done several longish road trips and find the Tesla's more comfortable than the Range Rover they replaced.
@jamesbohannon6319 Жыл бұрын
I bought a 2018 model 3 with 70,000 a year ago and repaired it. It had a charge port door issue and the drivers door made a pop noise when opening and closing. Other than that, I have been very happy with the car. Huge saving on mileage. His savings comparison at the end of the video is accurate.
@maxwellkeeling37812 жыл бұрын
Great video and even better to hear that the batteries haven't degraded that much at all! On another note, I'm not sure if it is the case but most likely where you are for electricity rates: $0.07KW/HR is the rate but not the actual cost of electricity. The cost of the actual electricity is nearly nothing, but once you start adding on the administration charge (small) and all of those infrastructure charges, I'm sure it is quite more expensive. When I used $41 worth of electricity, my actual power bill was $113.
@bodyshotjake74752 жыл бұрын
The department of energy has the real stats on the cost difference between the 2. for the initial cost difference you would have to drive the EV nearly 400,000 miles before saving money. i.e. my ice gets 31mpg average = average cost per mile at $5.00 = $.16 a mile. EV is averaging $.08-.13 a mile per the Department of energy. Not worth it at all considering the power grid of every city and suburb in the country would need ~160% more electric energy bandwidth to charge them all. This would raise your taxes by a considerable amount and also raise everyone electric bill by more than 2x.
@davidroberts64222 жыл бұрын
@@bodyshotjake7475 I was just wondering how that would work out with solar panels? Not quite smart enough to figure that out for myself. Really good approach to showing people just how messed up the "save the world" people are. Then they just flush them down the toilet. Then when you start using scientific terms like, :), "cost difference", "average cost per mile", and then you hit them with the real killer, "electrical energy bandwidth". How can they not hit "flush"? LOL!
@omegastudios-minecraft1865 Жыл бұрын
@@bodyshotjake7475 with solar, the cost for my family to charge our EV is 0
@bodyshotjake7475 Жыл бұрын
@@omegastudios-minecraft1865 Until the government stops subsidizing solar sold to the energy companies. Unless your on your own battery cells everyone else is paying for you to charge your car.
@matthewbeeler335410 ай бұрын
@@bodyshotjake7475 Where in the bloody hell did you pull that information out of. Clearly your ass. I literally just read the Department of Defense study about how much they would save switching to electric fleet and literally nothing you said was in there. My goodness people are dumb.
@hellrazor96652 жыл бұрын
Great video, Andy. Just wanted to let you know that road noise is barely an issue in the 2021 model 3
@metaljew44562 жыл бұрын
Could you please el\aHborate on what yogñu mean by the rnonad noise is barely an issue for your 2021 Model 3. Do you think it’s because Tesla has added more sound deadening material? Has there been any design changes that you know about that would have helped to alleviate the noise issues ? Has Tesla addressed their paint, body gaps and other quality issues that have plagued the brand for some time now? I’m extremely impressed with the battery pack and I don’t think you got lucky with a great battery pack. I believe that they are all designed to go about 1Million miles before serious reduction in performance becomes an issue. This is a tremendous relief for anyone who is new to the Ecar game. Your Model 3 appears to have much life still in the battery pack as well as the car itself. Any additional thoughts on interior quality? Like the durability of the fabrics and plastics? Isn’t it true that Tesla is working on getting the recycling of the LI battery packs to be a closed loop system, meaning that they want to be able to recycle the entire pack almost to the point of 100%. That would be truly incredible and certainly end the discussion about how Electric Cars still pollute the earth just in a different way. Overall, I think this was a really well thought out review of a Tesla after some real world driving done to it and real world wear and tear done to the paint, seats, suspension…..Everything seemed to hold up well. I am very interested in more long term reviews of all of the Tesla models to see what they are like after say 150K Miles or 200K miles of real world use. What are the weak points of areas that need to still be addressed? Again, well done review!
@YTYTYTY72 жыл бұрын
I agree. You should upgrade just for the quietness of 2021 model 3. It has dual pane glass in front and makes huge difference, thus lead me to purchase that model year. Previous to 2021, model 3's just did not meet my expectations.
@grantcivyt2 жыл бұрын
It's great you've had such a positive experience with your Tesla. Informative and interesting.
@robertpsotka35252 жыл бұрын
I don't own a EV, but headline caught my eye. This was an excellent, honest review , well done
@TianarTruegard2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for putting the actual costs of ownership in your video, it really helps to understand the differences between an EV and ICE engine vehicle cost of ownership.
@thatgmguy6055 Жыл бұрын
I have a lower income because I’m 21 working retail and school ect but with my gas car that gets under good circumstances 17 city and 22 highway along with insurance being the same amount or more then a model 3 it’s seeming like a solid option I drive 20k+ a year and spend probably $500 per year on maintenance pluse tires ect when that’s needed. I spend $7,000 a year give or take on insurance gas and maintenance. Financing a Tesla plus insurance I’d be at $8000 a year roughly
@rogerpoppen26512 жыл бұрын
Excellent review. I have a similar car with 40K miles in a little less than 4 yrs, with few issues and no out-of-pocket expenses. Tires look good for another 10K (I drive like the old geezer I am, leaving the car in 'chill' mode since day 1). Do you still have the original 12v battery? I've heard they often need replacing around 50K.
@amitnagpal19852 жыл бұрын
Excellent content, as usual. You have such a calming presence and voice.
@that1snare Жыл бұрын
Glad you talked about range degradation; that’s my biggest concern with EVs. That’s pretty awesome that it doesn’t degrade that much over 100k miles. Also I’d never taken the time to look at how much one could save on gas over time 🤯 that’s insane
@anekinoo7 Жыл бұрын
Battery degrades with use and age. Give it 10-15 years. Betting we see the batteries go bad. $20k for a new battery.
@Chopper153 Жыл бұрын
@@anekinoo7 So all the savings made by not buying fuel will be wasted on changing the battery?
@alanjm1234 Жыл бұрын
It also depends heavily on you doing most of your charging at home. If you can't do that, running costs rise by a lot. As does the inconvenience. In countries like the UK and Australia, if you can't charge at home, an EV will actually cost more to run than a similar diesel car.
@Fumbiii16 Жыл бұрын
@@Chopper153no sht Sherlock. You think this world is free lol. Unless you have warranty. You gotta pay
@Fumbiii16 Жыл бұрын
If it ain’t the lfp battery. Those long range and performance ones will degrade much faster and worse. Compared to the lfp.
@TheEpicDuck232 жыл бұрын
At the price point of $40,000 I expect a lot more from production quality. I’m interested to see how the market will shift once Toyota and Honda get into the game. Great video nonetheless a lot better than I expected
@hajirpirouzfar41312 жыл бұрын
Totally agreed. Well said
@nickvin74472 жыл бұрын
Agreed. Their build quality is total shit and needs massive improvement before I even remotely consider one.
@randomman0572 жыл бұрын
Toyota is wasting time and money on Hydrogen fuel cell vehicles. They won't be in the game for another five years minimum. Honda is making the same mistake. I wouldn't expect Japanese imports to be good competitors in the EV market until 2030.
@dillonvillon2 жыл бұрын
I would love hydrogen. Still able to fill up in a couple minutes vs and hour. One day lol
@TheEpicDuck232 жыл бұрын
@@randomman057 Researching alternatives is never a waste of time, Hydrogen is one of the most abundant elements on Earth. Charging EVs consumes fossil fuels while pumping Hydorgen doesn't.
@ksmith6602 жыл бұрын
Great review Andy. You are one reason I got a Tesla model 3 SR+. Best car I ever owned.
@wisconsinfarmer47428 ай бұрын
I am completely comfortable driving a 1940 John Deere hand clutch, a real hands on mechanical do it yourself type. My second day of owning a '22 model 3, I have adapted to it and love it.
@christopherfritsche51512 жыл бұрын
Hey! Great video! I was already feeling great about my recent model Y purchase. This really help me put it in perspective as I start making payments. Keep doing what you're doing! I really enjoy the content.
@Techning2 жыл бұрын
Great video! I'm planning to buy a Model 3 in the next 1-2 years. Side note: It's crazy how cheap electricity is at your location. Here in Germany we pay almost 7 times the price (about 46 ct / kWh). Because of that the price difference between electricity and fuel isn't that big. I'm expecting even higher prices for electricity in the next months too..
@fancyIOP2 жыл бұрын
And that’s why I personally would love to install a 16kW-20kW solar system before getting an EV. Charging from the sun would make sense for me.
@teslakiller69592 жыл бұрын
@@fancyIOP 20kW? What are you going to power, a power plant? Most households are fine with 10kW.
@johnbuscher2 жыл бұрын
@@teslakiller6959 He expects to power a Model 3 in addition to the house, haha.
@teslakiller69592 жыл бұрын
@@johnbuscher A Model 3 can take 11kW at best for about 6-7 hours if completely empty. You get it full in one day, what about the other 6 days of the week where it just stays there? 9kW for the rest of the house?! All the time? A separate battery storage can take 13kWh, this will be filled in about 2 hours, then what, giving the power to the grid for 2 cents or getting it lost?! 20kW is overkill.
@fancyIOP2 жыл бұрын
@@teslakiller6959 haha took me time to respond I’ve been busy but anyway for me it’s not overkill. Yes I won’t be using that much power daily but I would like the assurance that I won’t have to change my way of doing things. I’ve been watching people’s videos and I see sometimes their inverters hit peak power and turn off. And I would like to be off grid full time though it will be a hybrid system for when days are dark. Ohh yes like John said, I would like to charge my future EV without using any extra amount of energy from the grid. I don’t want to compromise, as long as the sun is shining I also want my home to shine.😄We have 2 fridges and planning on getting a 3rd one, 2 stoves, electric ⚡️ geyser, cctv system, electric gate and garage, airconditioning unit, and other stuff. And yes we won’t be using them all at once but I just want to have headroom on my solar system. Once I get an EV it may turn into 2 EVs… I’m future proofing my system from the start.
@chesshooligan1282Ай бұрын
Nice if you have your own garage and you can get electricity for $0.07/kWh. At the moment electricity in the UK is about $0.30/kWh.
@markfrantz4612 Жыл бұрын
I just ordered a 2020 red model 3 rear wheel drive standard plus that looks very similar to that. I'm so excited!
@BosnaGazi87 ай бұрын
How u liking it so far?
@AllgoodthingsTv Жыл бұрын
What a great review! Thanks for this helpful info.
@brendanchan6044 Жыл бұрын
You thank him just Luke how your hoe kf a mum thanks me 😮
@bsgarey2 жыл бұрын
My 2016 KIA. $18000+$25000(gas) = $43000. I had zero repairs (other than 1 set of brakes) in the 100,000.