Here's Why I Can't Save my Volvo 240 Classic Wagon

All the common rust areas on the Volvo 245 wagon and so much more! This one needs a serious restoration.
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[@SBrown-ov9lz]

Interesting to note also, and I have owned many Volvo 240 wagons over the past 40+ years, also 740 and 760 wagons, the earlier 240's from early production to last, 1993, got better resisting rust towards end of production...generally. My brother was a Volvo tech in Maine many years before his death, learned a lot from him. The B230 would remain "bullet proof" even turbo'ed , throughout all production. The Asian-Warner 3 speeds with overdrive, also "bullet proof" !!! Of all the really old cars still in operation today, are Volvo 240's! In my opinion, the best automobiles ever made!

[@Involvod]

I totally agree!

[@VolkswagenNut1969]

As much as I love these cars, I totally agree that one is too far gone to be worth messing with. Was worth a shot for the wheels and maybe a few other parts though! 😉 Anxious to see what else you find down the road. 🙂

[@Involvod]

I'm glad you and most feel the same way! I can't wait either 😃

[@williamwoods8022]

@@Involvod Pete C has restored much worst Cortina's than that and Nitro Silvia has restored much worst Rover SD1's and plenty of people restoring much worst classic Minis as well. If you are good at welding then this would be easy to do.

[@driessenverfoosterhout489]

Sad that it’s to far gone for a good fix. Love Your Chanel.

[@Involvod]

Thanks! 😃

[@dbt2787]

oh well, hopefully someone out there has the time to save it. I'd quite like to see another 940 again, or maybe even a 760. That'll be a change!

[@Involvod]

Thanks! Me too, I'm really looking for a Turbo 🤞

[@bibiroulagrillade49]

@@Involvod well I can maybe help you….

[@Involvod]

I'm all ears! You can also reach me on Instagram, there's a link in the description :)

[@weightlessliving9856]

You asked in the video what we would like to see…I say Volvo 780 Coupe. Subscribed!

[@Involvod]

Thanks for subscribing! Would love love a 780!!

[@douglaslewis627]

I have an 85 model same color but i think i can save mine.its got 350,000 mi. On it but still doesn't burn or leak oil.i have had to do all new bushings and shocks and the rocker panels have some rust issues.but for a car that has the kind of milage mine does im surprised it still runs and it's my daily driver.i replaced the timing belt and seals along with the wiper motor and fixed my overdrive switch along with the idle air control valve and the drier side window trac mechanism.so i realize there will most likely be more components i will have to deal with in the future but that's all part of owning a car this old.i love this car for the pure old school repairability that it has.as long as i continue standard maintenance i see no reason this car can't make a million miles.keep looking for a good one they are well worth it.i love your volvo videos and keep it up you make it easier to do my repairs.thanks.

[@Oh-Jay52]

In the dark or when its raining .............Good Call...Sad but true..

[@extrasocks]

My heart goes out to you, bud.

[@Involvod]

✊✊

[@skozra]

It's a shame it was so far gone, but yeh you've done the right thing for sure.

[@Involvod]

Thanks!

[@d.jbrickmocs1637]

I love this channel. You got to love volvo. I no i do. Started with a volvo 740 2.3 16v turbo wagon. Than a 940 2.3i sedan. Than i had a 850 2.0 sport sedan. And now i drive a S60 2.4 170 bhp from 2001. Love driving this tanks🥰

[@Involvod]

Thanks! Very nice! I would really like an 850 at some point, I'm sure I'll get priced out of Redblock era Volvos soon 😅

[@d.jbrickmocs1637]

@@Involvod yes probebly🤣 850 is olso a very nice volvo. Drives really nice. Would like to see one on your channel👍😁

[@db192]

Sorry to hear that bud, looks like the winters are pretty harsh over there, that car must have been exposed to a lot of road salt over the years.

[@Involvod]

Cheers, yeah I think so too!

[@jensrodmann5110]

Oh well, too bad that Mudzda will meet its Maker soon! Was she driving around in Scotland a lot? I'd love to see you take this car apart, maybe make a profit from selling the parts for your next project, and finally have her scrapped (a proper horror movie). Best ending ever on your channel!

[@Involvod]

Just one trip, but maybe it fell into the ocean on the way over 😄 Thanks!

[@scottkerns2253]

"Stirring a bowl of soup" - made me laugh out loud. Great Video - Thanks.

[@Involvod]

Thanks! 👍

[@johnytrade242]

I've never seen your channel before, somehow this video popped out of nowhere, as far as I can see, the cluster has been changed which means the mileage on this car is not correct, the car has been through a lot as we can see... in my country this car is worth every penny and people willing to actually revive it. but if there is opportunity to get a better Volvo then I support you on this decision .

[@Involvod]

Thanks!

[@StefanQuaglia]

R.I.P., red 240.

[@haardkaar]

In Sweden the doors, boot lid and bonnet are the first things to rust away. And the dashboard is usually cracked. So there's alot of good parts on this one.

[@Involvod]

The boot lid is going on the lip, but the other panels seem to be pretty good!

[@richardguse3410]

I have to say at 1:25 in to your video I said to myself the only reason to buy that is the wheels! At 2:30 you confirmed! I got something right!

[@Involvod]

Haha 😃 Great minds think alike!

[@stanwashighski3553]

Dibs on the rear hatch hinges.

[@Involvod]

I'm going to remove them tomorrow (it's all getting stripped) hopefully they don't break!

[@marcfiedler09081995]

Hi! I went to see the Volvo before you I guess on Saturday. We had a trailer and came from NL. Unfortunately it was really in a bad shape indeed and we drove home without it. Really nice owners but so much work to restore it…

[@marcfiedler09081995]

The previous owner still drove around 100 km’s with it the day before we went.. just imagine how little mechanical knowledge they had driving with this engine

[@marcfiedler09081995]

On the photos it looked much better actually. Also, the doors were really good and the right side of the car didn’t have that much rust. Left side rear was much much worse. And where the rear hatch is there was little rust (between the bumper and the trunk) to my opinion. Such a strange car in total…. Wise decision to let it go… Although the previous owner was emotionally so attached to it they let it bled to death.

[@Involvod]

Wow, and we though we were quick! I was hoping people who saw the ad/car would find this video. That was a long way for you, shows what a bad car it was that you preferred to go back empty handed! We expected more from the photos too 😅

[@RobinBerthier]

Hah, I see it has Minerva tyres on the back. I bought new ones of those once for a VW Polo. They would just make me spin while taking a roundabout at 30KM/h. Brand new! Another 740 would be cool, maybe a sedan this time? Learning a lot from your video's for my 744! Great stuff!

[@Involvod]

Ah thanks for the heads up, I've put them on Lili, will have to test them out! Glad the vids are helping 😃

[@bibiroulagrillade49]

I do really like the content of your Channel. You guys and David Bello have the best volvo Oldies related content on KZbin. Keep on the good work. Cheers from Austria (i m actually fighting as well to get the Tuv for my 240 in Austria)….

[@Involvod]

Thanks for the compliment! Apparently Austria is the only place stricter on inspections than Germany 😅 My fingers are crossed for you 🤞

[@classlessbozo317]

Right decision, l winced when you bought it.

[@СержЛебедь-ж4ч]

Не стоит оправдываться наш товарищ вольвоводитель, это очень уставший кузов и сделать его конечно можно, но цена множества трудодней, металла и сварки, подгиба стальных форм сложных конфигураций.. Но и не отчаивайся, этот вагон за 500 даст жизнь другим твоим машинам, на нем есть мост, детали подвески, фары, пластик, салон, бампера, мотор можно отчистить и заменить прокладки, кпп, прекрасные колеса, еще живые крылья и капот и так далее. Она послужит прекрасным донором твоим проектам, не расстраивайся, не все машины доходят за 30 лет до нас с перспективами на жизнь

[@Involvod]

Very true! 30 car years are a bit like 80 human years 😄

[@jackjacko8706]

As I said when you first inspected the car, could only be a parts car. , I thought you had walked away but you had to at least have a look at the price. I purchased a similar 1978 Mercedes 300D for $500. Just for the motor and transmission. In my wildest dreams I never thought of restoring. It. If you can move the Volvo on at a small profit, good on you. But it is the fun of the chase and capture. Whatever the outcome. Thank goodness we don’t see that level of rust in Australia with cars still drivable. Keep going , and enjoying your passion.

[@Involvod]

Not only look, but also had to buy at that price! Seen 4 sets of Scorpius rims come up for €400-€500 in the last 2 weeks!

[@Involvod]

And thanks for the support!

[@DeanofMachines]

Thats a lot of crust! You know, a guy might still love those seats... wouldnt be worth the cost :(. Those headlights on the other hand... I think we should work something out!

[@Involvod]

They're probably the only good part of the car 😄

[@smiIingman]

Man i really got lucky with my old volvo fleet. Sure some had some pretty hard rust in typical places but not the type which would ruin the exterior appearance.

[@mattiasrichter1895]

Put the scorpio on the volvo 740! 😉👍

[@Involvod]

Thanks! Someone else suggested this too, I'll try it out and see how it looks!

[@davidnesgard3347]

I love you’r videos man! I would like to see a 940 turbo as the next car!

[@Involvod]

Thanks man! Me too!

[@ched999uk]

Looks like someone welded some dexion shelf support in (steel with holes), does look a bit too far gone. Especially as the head gasket has failed, might be worse as could have crack in block or head. Nice wheels though! There is a bit too much to do especially without power and a bit more space to work. Swap wheels and sell it on.

[@Involvod]

Ah good point!! And that's exactly how I feel!

[@Oh-Jay52]

That was like turning the life support machine off at the end , Very Dramatic and quite moving ....Poor Thing 😢

[@Involvod]

Yeah sorry about that 😅

[@Oh-Jay52]

@@Involvod Nah it was a pretty nice albeit quite a sad way to see the final soiree under his own lights XD

[@bosabengt]

The wheels will get 100% clean if you use wheel clean ACID. No scrubbing what so ever. :)

[@Involvod]

Thanks for the tip! 🙂

[@Holmbergihergi1]

A dark green volvo 940 turbo😍

[@Involvod]

They look great don't they!

[@Djwally13]

Well at least it still has good parts on it. The only thing you can do is recover all the good parts and send the rest of it to the scrapper.

[@EnriqueLopez-hb5jn]

Those rims or alloys would look nice on the 240 sedan, I think it is/was a special option then, I don*t know if that wagon has a rev. Counter, small clock that would make the sedan look nicer, also if that wagon has power windows mirrors, and the 240 sedan has manual it is very easy to convert to power windows , you only have to switch the components from the wagon to the sedan and vice versa it would make that 240 sedan something special, I know because I did it, eventhough I don*t have the1981 240 GL I went so far as to change the dash and changed the 1981 which was cracked beyond, and put a 1983 in perfect.conditions

[@Involvod]

Nice, thanks for the info I didn't know if it would be a simple job, luckily the sedan already has power windows. I put the Scorpius rims on and I have to say it looks great 👌 I'll include it in the next video

[@sebastianbrrrr7372]

You're absolutely right, it's just not worth saving it. Better put the good parts to a good use somewhere else and scrap it.

[@Involvod]

Agreed!

[@briangleeson1528]

That's always a shame when they get too rusty to save. Would you strip some of the parts and have the chassis hauled off? The headlights / turn signals will make you some good money on Ebay. We like swapping the Euro lights onto our cars here. Also, I don' think we ever got the headlight wipers here in the US. I agree with DBT, maybe a 760 or diesel Volvo.

[@Involvod]

Thanks, I wish I had more space, as I need to keep things moving (a 760 turbo would be amazing) I'm going to speed things up by letting it go whole

[@ronfolkersma3877]

Brian, would you like to swap euro headlights for US headlights? Would love to have US lights 😁

[@BeardedWrencher]

I've parted out cars in better shape! It honestly is probably worth more in pieces than complete. Keep the wheels and seats, the transmission and sell me the headlight 😉

[@Involvod]

Haha, yeah I think so too, but a bit faster to get the space back if she goes whole and I can keep our pattern of buying rust buckets going 😃

[@SimpsonsClassics]

Looks like something off my channel. Cars disappear on there to 🤣

[@Involvod]

At least you can recreate parts of them 😃

[@SimpsonsClassics]

@@Involvod haha you could save that old girl…

[@Involvod]

If you're interested in buying this car, get in touch!

[@ghazik3656]

price? country?

[@Oh-Jay52]

@@ghazik3656 He might only want a few hundred Euros and a small hamlet , Country is pushing it .....XD

[@ghazik3656]

@@Oh-Jay52 lmao

[@Oh-Jay52]

@@ghazik3656 So glad you got that , lol . But yeah Mudsters a little Cruster too sadly ....

[@balbirsingh8313]

It's a shame u can't keep it as your passionate about volvos and. And how much u buy a 240 salon for in burlin.

[@fannycraddock99]

Sorry that it did not work out Sledge. Perhaps you may be able to recoup some of your loss by selling the wheels etc. Onwards & upwards.

[@Involvod]

Exactly, thanks for the support!

[@petrnekolny881]

Said with my heart bleeding, but do a post mortem dissection and possibly sell some of the transplant hopefuls at the Sunday mart. 😢 P.S. As for the rims, years ago, after a long time of speculations, I decided to keep the two 240 musts - virgo+scorpius. 👍

[@Involvod]

Good decision, especially considering how expensive it's getting to buy them now!

[@rogerbengtsson2809]

I dont blame you for not saving it, as you say its to much work, the engine its no problem bu all rust, its a f---g nightmare, starting grinding and ther comes more and more and it never stop

[@Involvod]

This is it, there's always so much more!

[@gunnarmonell7253]

You should go for a 440/460 or 480. Especially the 440's seems to have hit rock bottom in value in Germany. A 480 project would be awesome and I saw one at €1000 in northern Germany when I googled last week.

[@davidcray670]

Love your channel - On the top a nice car, but I understand why you can't save that one. If you decided to chop if up for part, please let me know!

[@Involvod]

Thanks! No-ones bought it yet, so it may happen!

[@cheharrison7107]

Hay man, you can't save them all, Herman Mudster was propper rotten, and in some bloody difficult places. Those wheels though! do love a bit of lattice, hope you keep them. As far as future projects? If you can find a good/affordable one a 760 4 cylinder turbo or 740 T, or maybe more realistic a nice 940 T? Whatever you get it'll be great to see, keep up the cool vids man, always look forward to your stuff.

[@Involvod]

Herman Mudster 🤣 Excellent. The wheels have gone onto Lili, I'll include it in the next video. Thanks for the feedback! That's exactly what I'd like to buy next

[@timbre7999]

Sad news but totally agree with your assessment there. Perhaps a nice V70 next?

[@Involvod]

One day 😃

[@marcinbujok7388]

Oh man! That was a sad episode :(. But yeah. That structural rust is major. Still for 500 it's loads of parts! Engine that can be rebuilt and run another 500.000km? :). Maybe a spare one for Lilly? I'm telling you that my 240 wasn't much better than that ;). No structural rust, but still a lot of rust! And a working engine. Otherwise same old shitbox :D. At least this one has working brakes ;).

[@Involvod]

Rust is almost a guarantee on these things by now isn't it! And always in awkward places 😅

[@KarriKoivusalo]

Devastating, absolutely heartbreaking :( Crazy though how the Volvos on youtube seem to be awful rust bombs, but in the northern countries where winter often means four months of incessant showers of briny slush for four months (except way, way up in the north) Volvos are considered almost impervious to rust. My 940 had it's first rust repair in 2019 (after 21 years on the road) when a small hole, about 10mm wide, was found on the underbody.

[@Involvod]

Nice, to be honest my 940 was pretty good, both of them, but the 240s have all had issues. But I guess rust free Volvos don't make as much content 😃

[@elmer9007]

Im from sothern sweden so we have lots of salt on the roads here. My 940 from 1996 only has rust in the lifting point in the back, fixed rust underneath the battery and the sides under the doors. Bought an old 740 last year, when I took it on a lift it was really rusty underneath so I have lots of rust job to do and a respray...

[@Involvod]

@@elmer9007 it's quite surprising the difference between 700 and 900, I'm not sure exactly when they started to galvanise the bodies 🤔

[@mayflowerlash11]

The alloy wheels look like the best part of the car. My '91 240 GLE sedan has these rims. I prefer the Virgo alloy but these faux wire wheels look nice and are period correct. The engine can probably be saved, they are a known quantity. The rusty body is another matter. Cutting out rust and filing the gaps could be a never ending nightmare. The interior is bad also. Non standard seats, speakers on plywood blocks. Yikes. Take off what is useful and good, dispose the body, put the good bits on another 240. Stop looking down the oil filler hole, that's disgusting. Yeah, buy another 240 wagon in better condition and use the parts off the red one to bring it up to better condition. You're a brave man Gungha Din.

[@Involvod]

Exactly, I put them on the sedan and it looks great! 👌

[@walterthater6338]

Parts will be your best option, thats my opinion. Or as the Nortnman would say: Some must be sacrificed to maintain clan and species.

[@Involvod]

Very true!

[@Oh-Jay52]

Holy Shit @Involvo'd, I believe its called Dexion Shelving @ 10 mins 27 seconds , Racking. OMFG A Volvo Storage Solution :( Ohhhh Wow .......lol

[@Involvod]

Haha someone mentioned that too, talk about mend and make do!

[@Oh-Jay52]

@@Involvod Swedes ? Ikea ? Dexion ?? Hmmm Some Angle Iron would have been a better idea , at least no slots in that stuff , Unless its a drainage solution as well ?

[@volvoqq4561]

Maby a 964 or a 965. Nice cars😊

[@Involvod]

Thanks! I'll keep an eye out 👀

[@ShawnTheGreek]

That’s a shame. I have just purchased my first 242 and it has the same rust around the boot, but I haven’t crawled underneath to check the frame. Wish me luck!

[@Involvod]

It's a 242 though, that would be worth saving no matter what 😃

[@maplebones]

You must have more money than I do. I have to crawl around on my back with a light before I make the purchase.

[@ShawnTheGreek]

@@maplebones it was only $500. Sat for 20 years, but I got it running and driving with a fresh battery and fresh gas! Incredible

[@willobeard79]

the manual gearbox will be worth it alone and you'll get your money back , someone will want to do a manual conversion

[@CaptainSlow1992]

Man, that's some serious rot, especially when 240s are made of thick steel to start with. At least at 500 you've got a decent set of wheels and potentially some other spare parts and not broken the bank...

[@Involvod]

Crazy isn't it! That's the way I look at it too, those wheels have already transformed the other 240 I can't wait to show you guys

[@Aertbei]

The rust at the rear seat near the wheel wellls, where does it usually start? I’ve noticed this spot in mine as I removed my entire interior, but I can’t pinpoint the source.

[@nobodyimportant7520]

OOPS sorry i put comment before in previous. RIP 240. NEXT !!!

[@username.858]

How about considering a 960 with the 2.5 or 3.0 24V in it? They're not as expensive as the turbos yet and are pretty interesting as well

[@Involvod]

Thanks, I normally try and stick to redblocks because I do love them, but let's see what deals come up!

[@Involvod]

The turbos are silly money here

[@username.858]

@@Involvod i know, I live in nrw. Seems like there are even less cars in berlin than around here

[@rumpelbee2448]

Such a shame! Good decision though! 👍

[@Involvod]

Thanks!

[@JMassengill]

Just a bit crunchy. Take the good parts, scrap the rest.

[@bobdelaplage690]

Was it parked on grass for years?

[@Involvod]

Looks like it, driven to Scotland too hence the sticker on the back, maybe it got dipped in the ocean on the way over 😄

[@completeexteriorcleaningse750]

Is it not worth keeping as a Donar car for the parts that are good

[@Involvod]

Space and time is the main problem mate, I've only got the one space so I need to get something in there that can be sorted out. Hopefully one day I can hoard rusty parts buckets 😄

[@completeexteriorcleaningse750]

@@Involvod imagine that you could supply parts too make some serious moolah

[@kierancurtis8545]

Unfortunately you can't save them all. This does make me love my 240 Torslanda more, as it has very little corrosion.

[@Involvod]

Exactly this, it makes me feel even luckier to have a mostly rust free 240, she has her problems, but nothing like this!

[@nachoangeloni6062]

What a mess! DO you sell as it is, or do you typically save some spare parts and just send to the junk yard? Regards, Nacho.

[@jfv65]

i'd strip the car for useable parts and scrap it. It's too far gone to be restored and i i wouldn't even feel comfortable selling it to anyone else TBH. Those rims are pretty special. I bet they would fit the 740. (but not a 940, those have larger front brake rotors)

[@Involvod]

I didn't consider the rims for the 740, I put them on Lili, but I might try one on the 740 to see how it looks! @Nacho because of space and time it would be easier for me to sell it complete and move on.. but if things were different I'd completely cut it up I think, I hate the thought of anything going to waste, the front floors and some other parts are still doing ok!

[@jfv65]

@@Involvod my 780 has 15" rims. It's based on the 740 chassis. 240 and 740 use the same 5x108 bolt pattern and very similar/the same low offset. So they should fit.

[@JuanRodriguez-jn7zx]

I have seen an end of all perfection; Your command is exceedingly broad. Psalms 119:96 TS2009

[@broward123]

Can I have the headlight wipers? 🥰

[@Involvod]

Everyone wants the headlights, I should start a bidding war 😄

[@Involvod]

*and wipers

[@broward123]

I just want the wipers lol. Not the TV screens. I have a tiny wiper fetish. 240 for life!

[@dbt2787]

has that exhaust been straightpiped or is it just broken? it sounds like a wanna-be V8!

[@Involvod]

Haha they fitted some non Volvo exhaust, cobbled together. But it also has a really bad blow at the front somewhere

[@p.w.klaren685]

Sell it in parts, for restauration you need a better equipped workshop and "fixing" is not an option.

[@Involvod]

Agreed!

[@rzizmont89]

Is that wortth to fix a car with such rusty chassee? Holes in frames everywhere. We know you koves Volvos but still. And courius thing, how do they pass technucal check? You are mentioning it all the time.

[@Involvod]

Worth it is subjective 😄 If someone doesn't mind spending many weeks/months fabricating and welding they could sort this car out, you could never pay someone it would cost more than the car is worth... That's a great point, I think they must have had a good relationship with the tester!

[@rzizmont89]

@@Involvod , Yeah. Hahah, all clear. They were just manufactured as future cars in archaic box. All on all, they met many safety targets 'in advance' vs. our era. 🤓✌️

[@stevefreeman730]

Strip it for parts

[@jackjacko8706]

Swap the wheels before you sell. Lol

[@MickeyMishra]

I wonder if anyone wrote a book or did a video series on how to rust proof and bullet proof Volvo 240s? Now something like that? I would GLADLY shell over $40 quid, lbs, Greenbacks, or Crypto bunnies for.

[@charlie225]

Hey bro, she is rough but It kind of runs and moves under its own power, she's a total rust bucket, sorry!

[@bweeks6322]

😄 P r o m o s m!!!

[@ProstWithTheMostBabe]

Ohhh that's baaaaaddddd... Sometimes you can't save em...