I totally agree that the lack of the cross-traffic alert does seem to be a miss. I also have a Tesla Model S (but an older one). Also the lack of Apple Carplay/Android Auto is a big miss as well. The Model S is a great car overall, but there are some things I think could be improved. The good thing is that some of it can be fixed with OTA updates, which is a big advantage to Tesla.
@azimali3222 жыл бұрын
On your note of adjusting cruise control distance between the car in front of you and your car, it should be available when you are in adaptive cruise control mode on the steering wheel. The button that you scroll on the right of the steering wheel adjusts your speed in cruise control, but that same button can also be clickable in the left or right directions to increase or decrease your cruise distance between the car in front of you. You can also just directly press down on that same button to call Tesla voice assistant. The horn button location is really dumb, imo. I hope in the next model S refresh the button is put back onto the air bag location. I also think that the lack of a HUD, even a simple one should be at least available in the Model S. Especially when you are paying that much for it. The fact that the cheaper Hyundai Ioniq 5 has it means that, I think, Tesla will likely bring that feature into their next new models. It's such a feature, yet powerfully important feature, in my opinion. Your nitpicks are completely justifiable and it should 100% be important complaints for new Tesla Model S potential owners to know about. Especially with the new competition in the luxury EV compact sedan car size is starting to heat up now with the Mercedes EQS, Lucid Air, and way more.
@azimali3222 жыл бұрын
I also am in the camp that the yoke is not worth the trouble when paying that much for the car. They 100% should have the standard steering wheel as an option for those that want that.
@ExtraLargeRecords2 жыл бұрын
You could nitpick, after all that car costs a lot of money. Your car has the perfect stance and look, especially with those wheels.
@dereks45772 жыл бұрын
On my model 3 if you touch the percentage indicator you can switch it to range in miles without going into the screen. On auto pilot, I can use the scroll wheel to adjust the car following distance. Maybe that car is different. I have a 2018 model 3.
@selbyjohnson59862 жыл бұрын
same on my 2022 model y. this car can probably do it.
@ollym33242 жыл бұрын
Careful using the "12V" socket to power your radar detector - it's actually more like 16V and some detectors don't like it. I've seen a few people on TMC report that Escort detectors really don't like the higher voltage and burn out.
@robertt13362 жыл бұрын
One of your best videos Dave! Good work w/ the lens Kathy. Tesla is cutting edge, but there are always areas for improvement. Side collision warnings are surprising to me since cars a quarter of the price have it
@elmojito2 жыл бұрын
Tesla may be cutting edge but trying to deliver a better mousetrap sometimes is a little too much. Trying to eliminate turn signals reminds me of a Jane Fonda movie where they replaced having sex with a pill. No thanks, I prefer the old fashioned way,.
@mikelecomte39792 жыл бұрын
My 2021 model 3 Long Range cycles from SOC to range just by tapping it on the display. Strange that the model S does not.
@shrichaudhary2 жыл бұрын
Another candid video Dave. I completely agree with many if not most of youobservations. I agonized a lot before buying my second Tesla which is a model Y because of the lack of some of these features and the firm ride as compared to say a Mercedes or BMW. Unfortunately none of those cars were available in the timeframe that I wanted so I ended up getting the new model Y.
@wesrxnumber2 жыл бұрын
My Audi has the cross traffic collision emergency braking. It has have me too many times with people speeding in parking lots. One time it stopped suddenly and then the truck speed behind me. It should be mandatory in all cars henceforward but then we know car makers will shrimp to save a buck without regard to public safety. Thank you Dave and Kathy for your videos. They are informative and you deliver excellent insight into what things are missing and quirky features of the Tesla. Not ready to be a member of the Musk followers.
@TexasMinioneer2 жыл бұрын
I have an EQS and it’s crazy that this car is lacking so many basics for the same amount of money. I’ve heard a lot of these gripes from people who talk on various owner forums but this was a more succinct summary than I’ve heard. Don’t mind the apologists, a lot of these things the MS is lacking just seem like pure hubris on the part of the company. They don’t include them simply because it’s cheaper for them to do it their way, there’s no grand vision.
@milano282 жыл бұрын
Hi Lance, as I just commented, I have a Mercedes EQE, way much better car. Dave tell Elon that the Europeans have arrived...
@wilber82602 жыл бұрын
Thanks Dave. As an old guy and current owner of a Dec 2021 MSLR and former owner of a 2014 MS, i agree with virtually everything you say. But, since some commenters dont seem to understand the advantages of the MS i would like to mention a few: 1. Beautiful inside and out, 2. Very comfortable seats, 3. Wicked Fast!, 4. Two large screens with great display and very fast refresh that do tons of neat stuff, and 5. the best sound system i have ever expericneced in an automobile. As for your comments. For the Yoke - I do NOT release it to let the wheel come back to center. AND, I never put my hands on those top 'thumb rest' things. i keep my hands on the bottom flat part of the yoke or on the sides with thumbs pointed up where top of thumbs are at level of scroll wheels. . There have been youtube videos and TMC forum threads about how to use the Yoke. But, I still would prefer a normal wheel with stalks. Yesterday late aftrnoon when driving into the sun, I could NOT see any of the symbols or text on the Yoke! And, yes, i think the ride is too firm. Not as good as my 2014 MS! I actually like the 'old' taillights and chargeport on my MSLR.
@RobBudge2 жыл бұрын
Great video to highlight many of the things people take for granted on modern cars: Rear Cross Traffic Alert, Apple Car Play (full integration with all or the Apple ecosystem), and 360 top view camera - all not available on these expensive cars. Yolk, horn - crazy stuff! But, to each, their choice….
@commanderroddi77422 жыл бұрын
a car at this price range Should have all the things that you mention (and door pockets). The fact it doesn't have the little cross traffic alerts (which my JEep wrangler has) is sad because while FSD may take care of that, the fact that FSD is like, 12-15K now, and its $6K for enhanced autopilot, many people won't get those features, and shoul have those "standart" safety features that 28K Hyundais have!.
@DiscoveryOwners2 жыл бұрын
Another great video, Dave! Agree with all your complaints, at least you have ventilated seats (MYLR owner here). The lack of RCTA really astounds me, and I wish the BSS had an audible warning. These almost stopped me from buying a Tesla as I am sure one day it will cost me an accident. However, I doubt my next car will be a Tesla unless they fix these and other pain points.
@txxthie2 жыл бұрын
All valid points from someone with vast knowledge and experience with EVs 👍
@justanotherguy77982 жыл бұрын
Correction to my last comment I meant to say great unbiased presentation Dave, I would like to add the yolk itself compounded by the horn location is a deal breaker for me even if could afford a car like yours. To me the review you did on Kathy’s Gv-60 sounded like the perfect EV, I appreciate we wouldn’t be where we are today without Tesla and I love them for that but just take a look around.
@Jeddin2 жыл бұрын
Waze settings -> Voice & Sound -> Play sound via -> set your preferred option.
@davidconner90272 жыл бұрын
Thanks! Will try that
@wilber82602 жыл бұрын
I'll also mention one my favorite complaints that you didnt mention. Tesla designs the screens and yoke with small text and symbols that are OK IF: 1. you are a 25 year old with perfect vision, and 2. have very steady fingers and 3. lighting is optimal. If not all three are true then things get dicey.
@Harrythehun2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the update Dave. I would also be a bit disappointed. I would try to flip the car. I love my M3 LR, hard to see any replacement for it.
@johnjohn3241 Жыл бұрын
I agree with you on everything apart from the horn. In most cases, it's safe to assume that the horn is being used in quick reaction scenarios. Such as: someone just pulled out in front of you and you gotta smash your brakes or you have swerve to avoid a car, etc. I believe in these scenarios two hands on the wheel is better than one. In my opinion and from my experience, it's dangerous everytime I've taken the time to press the center horn in any of those scenarios where my reaction time matters. You can't press the horn and swerve at the same time as good as you could with one hand vs two hands on the steering wheel. That's just my opinion.
@scottbreseke7162 жыл бұрын
Spend one hour using the horn and turn signals to get used to using them when you first get the car, then there will be no problems.
@officialyasir2 жыл бұрын
All valid issues, you are not nitpicking at all. The lack of rear Cross traffic alert is a huge miss. Tesla needs to stop acting like full autonomy is about to happen tomorrow and at least add rear Cross traffic alert and a proper Birds Eye 360 view cameras.
@dualityofman12532 жыл бұрын
There's an old saying. "The perfect car is two cars." It means one owns a comfortable daily driver as well as a sporty car for fun.
@AndrisVizulis2 жыл бұрын
On my Model 3, I just tap the battery state indicator at the top of the screen and it toggles between percent and distance ... pretty easy ... no need to go into Settings menu ...
@skyemalcolm2 жыл бұрын
The only way to get waze to audibly alert you would be to run with one or two Bluetooth ear buds and let waze connect to your ears that way. Totally non optimal but I’ve actually done that while traveling with passengers in the car who were sleeping and I didn’t want to disturb their rest.
@scottbreseke7162 жыл бұрын
I think I would put 19" MW03 Martian Wheels on that.
@JoeMa-hm5ze2 жыл бұрын
I rarely comment on reviews like this, but I thought you pointed out many of the obvious flaws in the design. As a company, Tesla is doing many things right but their hardheadedness on some of these decisions is just head scratching for me. Of course the Tesla die Hards are commenting that this is on you for buying the car. But you are doing KZbin reviews and you have a right to your opinion. Especially since you bought a MS. Tesla would do well to hire some engineers and designers from other established companies to improve on their misses. As more and more luxury EV’s hit the market, Tesla will be forced to make changes or lose some market share. As it stands today, Tesla has very little competition. But that is changing slow but sure.
@samdcbu2 жыл бұрын
Great job Kathy with the filming!
@beelust43122 жыл бұрын
Dave, I pre-ordered a Fisker and hope they have those features you don't have on your Tesla.
@Petskuu12 жыл бұрын
Awesome video, greetings from Finland :)
@Marvelofebikes2 жыл бұрын
A used car is like a box of chocolate... Nice work on your channel. Love the enthusiasm!
@treads25952 жыл бұрын
I see another car in your future, Dave. You are the king of changing cars. Don’t you have a Lucid Air on order?
@outofspecdave15542 жыл бұрын
Of course I do!
@azimali3222 жыл бұрын
@@outofspecdave1554 Now that would be a great comparison between the two cars! Then against a more traditional manufacturer like the Mercedes EQS would be a great set of comparisons.
@treads25952 жыл бұрын
@@outofspecdave1554 It will be interesting to see if you like the Air more than the Model S.
@justanotherguy77982 жыл бұрын
As always great job Dave at being in biased with your presentation, I would like to mention most of the short falls of the model S my Ev-6 does not have and for tens of thousands less, I’m just saying.
@rundmd22 жыл бұрын
Just tap the range or miles displayed on screen anytime you want to see the other. It’s a toggle display on demand.
@davidconner90272 жыл бұрын
The problem is the SOC or Miles display on the S is located on the screen above the yoke; not on the center console as I said in the video. And I don’t believe that separate screen is touch screen on the S. But I will check!
@rundmd22 жыл бұрын
Dave, looks like a update is getting ready to roll out with a completely new energy app. They probably never included the old app in the s and x refresh as this was being developed. Maybe that will help you with the info on center screen for range and charge display. Update should be Version .36 looks like.
@outofspecdave15542 жыл бұрын
Awesome intel, thanks!
@justanotherguy77982 жыл бұрын
My bad I called the steering wheel a yolk “egg” and it should be a yoke, doesn’t make like it any better.
@JayJay-ym5jx2 жыл бұрын
I’m sure you can hit voice command and tell the car to increase following distance.
@drewc40542 жыл бұрын
When you buy from a 3rd party, what warranty is left? Thank you
@daquansteed44122 жыл бұрын
Trajectory lines. I love you and your sons videos.
@davidconner90272 жыл бұрын
Thanks Daquan!
@LordStevie2 жыл бұрын
As for your first few comments, before you got to the wish list, you bought a USED car with 22k miles. Expect cosmetic imperfections.
@ericm48402 жыл бұрын
The wear on the yoke is a known problem. It is deteriorating much faster than we would expect.
@paulstewart16262 жыл бұрын
Sorry to say, but a lot of it was picking (20k, not new). You did bring up some good points. Since the car would cost me an extra 35 percent in Taxes ( Nova Scotia, Canada) will not be buying one soon. You are great at this, keep it up.
@mattscinto2 жыл бұрын
Dave could you share the make/model of the radar detector you use?
@davidconner90272 жыл бұрын
Escort Max 360 C
@davidck12 жыл бұрын
"let's get into it" He definitely watches Long Island audit!
@everydayvictor2 жыл бұрын
I don’t think I’ll ever understand the want for a light on the mirror for blind spot monitoring when you have a camera display of the lane when you engage the turn signal.
@davidbryant28722 жыл бұрын
Because the smart person is looking at his rear view outside mirror as he gets ready to change lanes, not at the cartoon on the dash...
@outofspecdave15542 жыл бұрын
agree with you David. Both would be great
@nicholasyoung27942 жыл бұрын
The display mileage percent you should now be able to press icon and it should switch to mileage or percentage no longer having to go into display
@davidconner90272 жыл бұрын
I know how this works on a 3 or Y; but can you tell me how to do this on a model S refresh? Thanks!
@nicholasyoung27942 жыл бұрын
Sorry I thought they would have updated the software on the S, I have an old S the tapping in the car does not work, but it does in the phone App. If Tesla knows the Tapping doesn't work in the S, it should be a matter of a software update.
@salvadorsantana94682 жыл бұрын
Although the S is a great car, it is just too expensive for what it is, on top of that it is depreciating too fast! I sold my 2021 refresh about a month ago and I just see it keep dropping in value. Thats some way to burn money right there.
@milano282 жыл бұрын
Hi Dave, check out the Mercedes EQE, another planet and even cheaper than Tesla. Greetings from Italy.
@davidbryant28722 жыл бұрын
I am looking forward to checking out that car, but no sign of it yet in the US....
@Wankidy2 жыл бұрын
I can see that you did extensive research on this car and still opted to buy it despite the drawbacks. Besides the used car damage, you knew all this going in. It doesn't matter anyway because you will get tired of this car in a couple of months and buy something else anyway.
@azorglub2 жыл бұрын
So, how long are you keeping this one? Lack of grab handles in Tesla is indeed super annoying
@shahzadiqbal19762 жыл бұрын
Good video. Thank you for sharing the info. It's very helpful.
@rickcrna2 жыл бұрын
Nice video laying the groundwork to justify trading in this car for another expensive EV within a few months. Hard to keep up with all the EVs Dave finds he’s unhappy with and sells/trades.
@LordStevie2 жыл бұрын
Isn’t there a retro fit for the horn? Tesla started offering it.
@technician006 Жыл бұрын
Sadly, the previous iteration was better - better interior, vertical display was better, better turn signals, manual glove box button, and chrome looked more expensive, especially in the dark gray version.
@cesarforte6172 жыл бұрын
For the price of the product they definitely need to improve there quality no exemption!!!
@robertjones75652 жыл бұрын
Did you get a CarFax for it before completing the sale?.
@davidconner90272 жыл бұрын
Yes. Clean
@bradjackson16912 жыл бұрын
Time to trade it in before the first loan payment is due.
@BillB335252 жыл бұрын
You mentioned most of the reasons why I would never buy a MS.
@cheesun1242 жыл бұрын
I think the point of the Yolk is to force you to use 2 hands. Is one-hand steering awkward?
@johnmunday84292 жыл бұрын
Great great review.
@zorro3792 жыл бұрын
Corrected the title - "Here's why buying a used car is not the same buying a new one"
@cjonesplay12 жыл бұрын
Another Great Video Dave
@tedhu2622 жыл бұрын
Too funny..waze was something you knew beforehand and yet.. Teslas are known for their EV software and hardware.. after all GV60 is less efficient MPGe than..far larger model x
@davidconner90272 жыл бұрын
True re: the CarPlay comment Ted. But I still wish they had it as an integrated option.
@RT-zg9qi2 жыл бұрын
you need to do a little more research. you can adjust the distance of cruise control with the right scroll wheel. You can also just tap on the battery percentage or miles on the screen and it will change.
@outofspecdave15542 жыл бұрын
Thanks. Will try to adjust distance of cruise control as you suggest. I thought I tried that and it didn’t work. Which screen are you suggesting I tap on the battery % or miles? The center screen above the yoke is where this info is located and I don’t believe that is touch screen. Both these things worked as you describe on my previous model 3 and Y’s, but this one is an S and I see differences. Or at least thought I did…. Thanks for watching and helping with your comment!
@birreboi2 жыл бұрын
Elon Musk and Apple - hmm. I've watched another KZbinr (who mainly covers news and financials of Tesla) , who said there was some bad blood between Musk and Apple. Interesting though if you look at tweets from Elon, it always has at the bottom "Twitter for iPhone". Hmmm 🙂 Agree though about Apple Airplay not being on these cars. I'm sure there are people who may find that this is the deal breaker in buying a Tesla car.
@ojeje12 жыл бұрын
Dave, I can see your new car sold soon! 😅
@davidconner90272 жыл бұрын
But wait! You haven’t seen my video going over all the things I love about the new rig; tomorrow am release
@LordStevie2 жыл бұрын
Dave, just tap the battery icon on the screen, it will switch from % to miles.
@davidconner90272 жыл бұрын
Thanks Steve
@FthePump2 жыл бұрын
I love it!
@MrLeonidas123 Жыл бұрын
dave do u use cialis
@thomaswilson29172 жыл бұрын
It is not a new car. It is a used car. Title should be changed. On the backup camera you can show it full screen if you wish. That gives you a 17 inch backup screen.
@davidconner90272 жыл бұрын
Fair point. Title changes. Thx
@JayJay-ym5jx2 жыл бұрын
and those rims gotta go
@davidconner90272 жыл бұрын
Are you making me an offer? I see your strategy here :)
@yzhan2252 жыл бұрын
Tesla the king of cost cutting
@skyemalcolm2 жыл бұрын
Yikes. Shady that the damage was not represented properly. Buyer beware is always a good reminder of how to be when showing up to inspect any car you’re thinking about purchasing.
@scottbreseke7162 жыл бұрын
The car has no rockets and can't fly. Those are the biggest problems.
@Matt-pj3ue2 жыл бұрын
Couple of weeks and it will be for sale. Lol
@teslaowner90202 жыл бұрын
❤❤❤TESLA❤❤❤
@kimblakely45592 жыл бұрын
Complain after buying a car you inspected before buying, come on
@laloajuria46782 жыл бұрын
thats disgusting for this kind of car.
@LordStevie2 жыл бұрын
Sounds like you’re nitpicking just to make money on KZbin views.
@steveparent36272 жыл бұрын
Getting a little long in the tooth over all these EV reviews! Geez all- can't we just decide on our own w/o someone elses opinion...Off to test drive on my own Bye You Tube!!
@streetmoney212 жыл бұрын
Never have I heard so many complaints. Why even buy the car if all you can do is talk about what you wish for. You are paying for the privilege of having the quickest sedan on the planet. If you want old obsolete tech like apple CarPlay and android auto you should not buy a Tesla. We have it in a 2022 Honda civic touring and it’s plagued with problems. The dealership knows this and told us they have no fix for it. The model is plaid is for people who are into speed and power. I could care less about Apple CarPlay I don’t use it. I don’t have a dog so I don’t care where the vents in the back are. If I want a sedan that’s gut wrenching fast the Tesla is at the top of the food chain. If you want all that other stuff go buy something else and enjoy reading the rear license plate of a plaid. Enjoy getting left behind every single time. Yeah you’ll have apple CarPlay but you will not have anything near the performance of a plaid. Not all cars are for everyone. If you want luxury and have 150K to spend buy a used Bentley or a used Rose Royce. If you have pets buy an SUV giving your pet the space it needs. If you need apple and android for the car buy a Hyundai. But to stand there and complain about what you’re not getting is silly. Don’t by a vehicle if it doesn’t have what you want.
@badmonkey29172 жыл бұрын
Hmm. All of these things you knew about when you by it. So complaining over things you knew about is a bit like ordering a chocolate ice cream and start complaining over it because it have chocolate in it. So this was not a good video. All the other videos I liked but this is just like a child complaining over its new toy.
@outofspecdave15542 жыл бұрын
Thanks so much for your feedback
@michaelfruchter7322 жыл бұрын
Normally Love Your Videos But Way Way Way Too Much Pissing and Moaning and Complaining!!! If you’re so dissatisfied Dump test another car and get something else but You’re a grown man making choices. Please Quit F ing Complaining