Here's Why The Holosun SCS Doesn't Have Shake Awake

[@freedomgorilla1]

Does this change your opinion of the SCS? To view all Scs go here - freedomgorilla.com/collections/holosun-pistol-optics/SCS-Series

[@ATX-oy8bi]

We will see this is going on my duty weapon. So I will check it almost everyday.

[@Skeptical73]

This optical actually IS "shake to wake", just bought it, used it, & loved it. I was confused if it was "shake to wake" after going to the gun shop yesterday, because they told me "just shake it & it comes on", but after research online I THOUGHT maybe it wasn't. Needless to say I went back to buy it & asked about it again if it was "shake to wake" & they said yes & showed me again. I have the Holosun SCS MOS-GR for Glock 19 as of today, bought brand new, it will "shake to wake".

[@Witty76]

@@ATX-oy8biany issues?

[@ATX-oy8bi]

None love this optic

[@OBZ74]

You guys are awesome! You basically covered all Holosun products with almost every pistol out there,thanks for sharing all those info!

[@freedomgorilla1]

thanks so much!

[@Neffie42]

Great explanation! I don’t understand why people question the battery life. This is why you purchased a reliable brand and paid up for a quality optic. They’re not going to make a product that doesn’t work when you need it.

[@shadowballen6463]

no one does it intentionally, but it is possible that it wont work. a replaceable battery is a controllable factor... I think the issue is ( at least to me) is why am i paying for an optic that will die and cannot replace the battery and is the same price or slightly more than an optic from the same company with 2x the life and replaceable battery. Good observation though.

[@potemapote]

@@shadowballen6463 I completely agree! A battery that is being recharged by sunlight is a great idea, until you need to replace it. There is no such thing as unlimited battery, because all things degrade over time, batteries (especially) included. There's no battery with infinite recharge-cycles. Also, the way you recharged the battery (frequency, duration, level of charge, etc) are going to matter a lot to that life's battery. So at some point, regardless of use, it's going to underperform (putting it nicely) and it's a dead optic at that point. If you're willing to use the heck out of it for a few years and then move on to something better, great! More power to ya! But for all us regular joes that don't hit the range that often (because life), this idea isn't all that good. My 2c.

[@ryandavis8206]

But will it work for 30 years?

[@jameskuykendall208]

I just got mine for the Walther PDP today. It was super easy to install and I cannot wait to go to the range to sight it in

[@calvinb8367]

Did you have to get a plate for it? I also have the Walther pdp with the 3.5 in barrel

[@goldandsilverstack3]

I have never seen a video with a more direct to the point answer wow good job sir. 🎉

[@Mike-fb4rl]

Just ordered mine for the PDP compact from you, yesterday. Looking forward to my first pistol optic!

[@justinnormand9921]

Thanks for this. Wanted a direct mount for my g45 but didn’t want to have to turn it on and off.

[@920WASHBURN]

I have a 507c and my "50,000" hours lasts about 7 months. But in their defense that's calculated on level 6. But that's not feasible for daylight so you have to keep it at 8. I don't know if this one's adjustable but let's hope they brightened it if it's only one setting

[@CitizenCarrier]

I’ve had the SCS mounted on my Walther PDP for almost 2 years now. It’s always on. Always ready. Always charged. And I don’t get to go shooting anywhere near as often as I like but when I do, it’s obviously charging it plenty. I zeroed it when I got it. It hasn’t shifted with coming up on 4,000 rounds and rough use from training classes. (I’m ashamed to say my gun has even been dropped a couple times in class 🤷🏼‍♂️) Another thing ‘m impressed with is it’s auto brightness. I’ve see other optics that have auto brightness feature and they are terrible. Indoors they can be too dim. Outdoors in daylight the SCS may be kind of bright. In sunlight it may look like a 4 MOA dot. But in the grand scheme of things in a self defense situation, not a big deal at all. In fact, I actually like a very slight bit of bloom outdoors. But indoors, it nails the brightness level at different light levels from room to room.

[@rollofire22]

Thats crazy! Thank you for this info

[@mike34744]

Just hold it out your window on a sunny day as you’re driving down the road. That should charge it up.

[@jackal1115]

Suns out guns out lfg.

[@terryoliver1410]

My PDP compact now has theSCS Green..Perfection!!🎯🎰

[@tonyn152]

From reading other comments, is it true that using the SCS on the PDP, the factory iron sights get in the way of the SCS dot, so you aren't putting the dot on the target, but putting the dot on the sights and then putting the sights on the target?

[@freedomgorilla1]

@@tonyn152 it wouldn’t get in the way unless they have suppressor height iron sights instead of regular height. Here’s a video I made on it kzbin.info/www/bejne/bZ3Son2DpqyFhposi=EZyzjrKiHU6Gej38

[@tonyn152]

@freedomgorilla1 perfect! Thank you!!

[@k-o-l-d]

The answer I was looking for.

[@kumarsalib722]

Realistically, how long will this non-replacible battery survive? I don't mind replacing batteries. I do mind having to replace the whole optic when (not if) the battery fails.

[@freedomgorilla1]

It’s unknown

[@rudukai13]

According to documentation from Holosun, the internal battery will have a lifetime of 15-20 years before needing to be replaced. That’s longer than the lifespan of the tritium vials in common iron night sights

[@MichaelCooley-q6p]

it actually doesn't have a battery, it has a capacitor internally that the solar cells charge.

[@arconreef]

Show the documentation then. I've done my research on the SCS and SCRS, and I've never seen anything like that. If the battery is lithium ion (a safe assumption), then we can probably expect it to last roughly 8-10 years of moderate use.@@rudukai13

[@petedetraglia4776]

@@MichaelCooley-q6p Ml 1220 lithium 3v rechargeable is the battery in the Holosun SCS models per Optics planet website...Optics Planet doesn't have any info though if it is replaceable by the consumer or not.

[@lIlIllll1]

Thanks for your video it answered my exact question I had. I just installed this bad boy on my m&p 2.0

[@blackmagic8115]

So the solar receivers actually charge the battery? What is the chemistry of the battery? If it is lithium ion, then I think it would be damaged by allowing it to get below freezing (32F) and then exposing it to sunlight (charging) while it is below 32F. So it can’t be lithium ion. Maybe cobalt?

[@GSek11]

I’ve had to return 2 scs’s, first one had a crooked reticle, 2nd one would have a huge red lens flare if the reticle was in the top half of the sight picture

[@MattGoodfellow]

Thanks for the info. I'd also mention it does have a power off state too. You don't have to leave it 'on' in your safe. Shake awake is best for a staged gun, but a 'stored gun' doesn't really need it.

[@bockan111]

Thank you!!

[@arthurb8631]

Thanks great video

[@billbarr3644]

Can it be turned off if i just want to shoot using the iron sights?

[@freedomgorilla1]

Yes for all the SCS models you just press the 1 button on the side until it cycles off

[@MrCabovelas]

What if i can only shoot in Indoor Ranges and the optic never gets exposed to direct sunlight?

[@freedomgorilla1]

@@MrCabovelas it might have to charge for a few minutes but to charges faster than you can use it

[@rustyshackleford1877]

Holosun expects a 10 year life from the SCS. They will replace or repair it for free, forever.

[@peezyy3]

What if they go out of business or they get bought out by a different company? Or if sales of weapon related products from China gets banned for what ever reason? There's no guarantee of a replacement optic.

[@rustyshackleford1877]

@peezyy3 then I buy a new one from a different company.

[@ElMasChingon76]

@@peezyy3then go buy another beta

[@rhettlyerly545]

@@peezyy3There are really no guarantees in life. No joke. 🤷‍♂️

[@KeweenawPatriot]

It would be on my carry gun (8n the dark while carried)and when it's not, it would be in my house. Which happens to have zero windows. And my range is indoors. I just don't think they'll be bright enough.

[@nelsonmedina2016]

Can you cut this off and still put it up under your light Will is still charged. Or does it has to be on to charge?

[@scottsmith4710]

Thanks, you are the man!👍

[@freedomgorilla1]

Glad to help

[@Mtgavin55]

I'm in Idaho and out in the snow and rain. How will this effect the SCS. I think I'd need to go with a covered RD for my Walter PDP Pro.

[@freedomgorilla1]

If you read a fitment guide our our website we have comments about open vs closed. It all depends on how you plan on using it

[@Mako-sz4qr]

So does this SCS have auto shut off ? Thanks man 👍🏻

[@freedomgorilla1]

No it stays on until you turn it off manually

[@Lightagent1]

It’s like these folks didn’t watch the video.

[@rays9033]

These guys should be called the “Holosun Gorilla” 😀.

[@jordanitzchaki5354]

Hey can you adjust the brightness settings day and night or is it all automatically calibrated ?

[@freedomgorilla1]

All automatic. There is a button that lets you raise brightness for 30 seconds

[@GTSViperman]

One other youtuber said that he left it on and it turned off after 24 hours so does it only last for 3 years if it's off?

[@freedomgorilla1]

It has a 20k hour power reserve. Meaning it would stay on for 3 years. Whatever KZbinr you watched must have had a defective one of one that wasn’t charged up. Likely the latter

[@leeasam]

Any ambient light will charge it.

[@GodGunsGills]

Any???

[@leeasam]

@@GodGunsGills yes indoor light will charge. Does not have to be sunlight.

[@Devo72]

How long will the light last if it’s always on ?

[@freedomgorilla1]

The battery has a reserve power of 20k hours. So if it never saw any light at all it would last 20k hours. The moment it sees light it starts recharging.

[@scrider5493]

On my carry gun I cannot take a chance of the optic not working. But since it is my carry gun, I will be going to the range to fire it and you are saying that will be enough charge time? Understand, I do concealed carry, it will be under my shirt more than out, I hope.

[@GunsandGuava]

Sometimes you just gotta sun your GLOCK …. 😂 leave it on a table with you in a lit room during a ball game or something, you should be good between range trips.

[@66smithra]

If you cannot take the chance of an optic not working, take it off and use irons. Especially for a carry gun. All optics can fail.

[@frustratedmajority851]

Theres the concern with longevity in its components. I really wish they made it possible to replace the battery if you so chose. Im thinking 5-10 years down the line.

[@theweaponeer1]

Is it night vision capable?

[@freedomgorilla1]

Yes

[@jotun9988]

Holosun is for the lords.

[@greywolf9341]

Does the optic need to be zeroed?

[@freedomgorilla1]

Yes

[@greywolf9341]

@freedomgorilla1 what's the ideal pistol range to zero an optic?

[@GunsNGames248]

Mine stays on

[@TuTube105]

Mine is about a month old for my PDP and now it won't charge at all - flashes 3 times in 1 second bursts. Not a happy camper.

[@freedomgorilla1]

That’s unfortunate. Hit up their customer service, they’ll warranty it. [e-mail]

[@jmf1976jmf]

So a few hours in the sun will charge it up to 20,000 hours?

[@freedomgorilla1]

That’s what Holosun themselves told us - i haven’t verified it myself but that’s what their marketing guy Josh said

[@jmf1976jmf]

@@freedomgorilla1 thank you

[@perrymiller1098]

Does or will Holosun produce an enclosed SCS?

[@freedomgorilla1]

Right now the SCS 320 is enclosed and will fit on a sig p320 or any DPP footprint, they’re also coming out with the SCS Carry which is enclosed and will fit the K series footprint (407k/507k)

[@noktturnal]

Not really mine wich is a ccw died, had to place it in the sun.

[@Skeptical73]

This optical is now "shake to wake", I just bought one at my local gun shop "Big Boy Guns & Ammo" in Mustang, OK ($350.95) Holosun SCS MOS-GR & I love it. I immediately took it to the range & had it sighted in. Just thought this post should know, it IS now "shake to wake". **SIDE NOTE, when you go to web sites & look @ specifics, it says this is not "shake to wake", but in reality it IS. **I stand corrected, it's not "shake to wake"...lol I was told this where it was sold, but still love it.

[@freedomgorilla1]

We talk to Holosun customer service regularly and asked them about this, none of the SCS models are shake awake. Leave it on and it’s a set it and forget. When you pick it up, it’d be on. If you want us to ask them anything, we can, just let us know!

[@Skeptical73]

@@freedomgorilla1 I would push him on this or get a 2nd opinion. Call where I got this at Big Boy's Guns Ammo & Range in Mustang, OK. I am positive it is "shake to wake". Thanks for following up on this! You actually could be correct on this not being "shake to wake" I think they may think that also where I bought it. Thanks

[@shaunroberts6025]

just imagine this as a gshock watch. i put it on my vp9 L. so easy.

[@jrbarilla]

So, is it a rechargeable battery? ✌️🇺🇸

[@freedomgorilla1]

Yes exacty

[@robertbalatbat470]

When you have to draw your gun you have to press your holosun scs.

[@freedomgorilla1]

No u just keep it on

[@masonj0627]

Battery life isn’t my concern. I want the “shake awake” feature for my home defense pistol. I’ll buy the SCS in a heartbeat once Holosun adds “shake awake”

[@freedomgorilla1]

It doesn’t need it bc you just always keep it on

[@masonj0627]

@@freedomgorilla1 but doesn’t it auto-dim when stored in the dark (like a gun case or safe)? How long does it take to come out of auto-dim mode once it sees the light of day?

[@rudukai13]

@@masonj0627 Instantaneously. Faster than shake awake

[@truisticprince]

@@masonj0627 the SCS is an auto adjust only optic. however unlike other auto adjust optics there is a light sensor in the front of the optic that is looking at the light conditions "downrange" so to speak. with mine having experimented with pulling it out of a drawer in my night stand to pointing it at something with my tlr-1HL on, there is an imperceivable wait time for it to adjust.

[@ezpeezy58]

​@@masonj0627that is a really good point. Assuming most of the time it would be stored in the dark, that should mean the reticle would be at max intensity the entire time it's stored. Now I'm having second thoughts ..thx lol

[@willywonka1585]

imagine defending holosun's decision to remove a feature and charge more. standing on the peak with anything apple and sonys ps5. holy shit i cant be the only one thinking this.

[@freedomgorilla1]

Not defending anything. Just giving you the information they gave us after customers asked about it. It makes perfect sense

[@trentvlak]

I don't buy it. My 407co only lasts six months WITH shake awake.

[@freedomgorilla1]

The SCS has a rechargeable battery.

[@irishpridetattooink9997]

Just swapped my 407c out for this! I’ll let you know how it goes

[@trentvlak]

@@freedomgorilla1 what happens when you carry your piece concealed, then put it in the console, then put it in the safe. There's no sun anywhere. It's going to run down.

[@freedomgorilla1]

@@trentvlak it has a 20k hour battery reserve, so as long as you take it out within a 2 year span it’ll charge. It charges faster than you use it too.

[@trentvlak]

@@freedomgorilla1 that is a claimed reserve. As a long time user of Holosun products I can reasonably predict that that number is bunk.

[@GunsNGames248]

Should of had shake awake. What does the batter have to do it. Terrible excuse

[@dilladoodilla]

go make one. and don't give me an excuse either

[@lesliegee42069]

(because it's a piece of shit)

[@PansyMarcia-p5r]

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[@christopherbaten5459]

I love all of Holosun’s optics. I own 5 now. Unfortunately I live in Oregon. We don’t get much sun light and I use an indoor range 8 months out of the year. I got the SCS MOS when it was first released. Unfortunately now the firearm it’s mounted on has become my bedside gun. That thing “literally” never sees the sun. I’m interested to see how long the battery will last.

[@freedomgorilla1]

It charges off ambient light also

[@Slasherx28]

Any update? Is it still going strong and stayed on?

[@christopherbaten5459]

@@Slasherx28craziest thing…it’s still working like it did when I first got it. I don’t know what kind of futuristic energy source Holosun found but the optic is still on!

[@Slasherx28]

@@christopherbaten5459awesome, thanks for taking the time to reply and update! Cheers