I feel like there is a little bit of a misconception, so hopefully i can clear things up. when dashing you can maintain the shield so it keeps on regenerating every time you dash adding more comfort when diving enemies, why i think it could be controversial as to why it's a nerf is because selena's first skill was her only sustain skill and she'd still be left on little to no hp. the shield you gain from dashing is basically a downgrade although being able to keep it up consistently in late game you're basically going to have to pray that you somehow survive against burst enemies, the only enemies i think this shield is good against are dmg over time such as Yve. gord etc and the item glowing wand, my problem with this change is her survivability, obviously if you want MAX survivability you'd have to dash after your shield got broken/damaged, anyhow after hearing many of your opinions, iI dont think it's as bad as i made it sound, its still a subjective adjustment, but i think we can all agree that the removal of her first skill shield was just completely unnecessary. This is all MY opinion, anyone can interpret this as they please, and I'd love to listen what you guys think about this.
@howllml2 ай бұрын
As a aggressive selena user who dives in turrents and between 4-5 enemies to kill backliners I just see a buff In late game you don't have to wait for enemy to break your shield ❤
@maroo80422 ай бұрын
HERE’S WHY THIS IS A BUFF (imo): 1. FLEXIBILITY previously you can only activate the shield if you use the first skill (which requires a target) vs now you can activate the shield even with no target around - imagine diving into the tower and suddenly the stun effect is gone so the enemy ran away, you cant activate the shield since no target to claw at and you have no shield to absorb the tower shots 😅 2. FREQUENCY selena’s combo resets her dash, hence the shield can be activated more frequently unlike her first skill - the way the new shield suits her combo = she dashes to the stunned enemy>gains shield and it absorbs the first few tower shots>shield gone>do her combo which should leave her with one last dash>dash out and gain a new shield>that last shield should block any tower shots that follow or enemy’s counter attack if he manages to survive the combo
@buwan1002Ай бұрын
just my opinion as a selena main, first skill shield is enough for my sustain, moonton could buff her on dmg or hp regen.
@narcynancy30852 ай бұрын
it's like benedetta having 2 dash at once but 10 cd cd absolute cinema
@Shino_6662 ай бұрын
i sometime last hit a dying turret with 1st skill. now it seems like either i need to spend my 2nd skill or sacrificing some hp to do that. 😅
@princesseffi2 ай бұрын
I agree with you, for us as old players, this is a significant reduction of power anyway
@i_saidmeow2469Ай бұрын
"Didn't know" she even had a shield at all. She just gets bursted so hard, I have to opt for a playstyle that involves just hitting Arrows and spamming Traps on top of the enemies Now, back to the topic -I see this as a rework. It's not a nerf, it's a rework, as they didn't just straight-up remove a mechanic, but rather moved it somewhere else -The foreswing will help the playstyle of becoming a pseudo-artillery even more. And I'm all for it -The jungle buff could mildly help her when playing Roaming, as she has a surprisingly fast jungle clear of 1:04 on both sides if executed properly, however neither Jungler or Roamer are good roles for her in higher ranks due to the meta encouraging taking objectives rather than just deal damage -The jungle buffs could help her reach pre-1 minute full clear without an extra camp, making her already fastest jungle clear even faster
@stun-tvАй бұрын
I have a friend who is like you "top global Selena" and he when play solo Selena, use a tank build. And when is with team/friends, he use normal build.
@eralddd2 ай бұрын
exactly.. but why they have to remove the first skill shield?! it's so important for crucial moments and outplays, since her main role is assassin. selena needs sustain when facing a burst hero and also in teamfights😢
@hendeukie2 ай бұрын
"For people who are lag or bad at using Selena", me being both: 😃🤣🤣
@Kodukushi2 ай бұрын
Wait I don't see the issue though,,, they're not removing the ability to dash in a row within a short span, they're just adding a shield when you dash. I think the only reason Elgin was doing it slowly was to showcase the shield returning whenever she dashes, not that the shield has to disappear before she can dash
@Celestia3252 ай бұрын
@@Kodukushi I still find that shield very insignificant because if you want max survivability you kinda have to wait a bit, honestly what is that 200-300 shield gonna do if it's not stackable, Ik making it stackable would be op but they can always reduce the magic power so people would be careful about which build they use for her.
@Kodukushi2 ай бұрын
@@Celestia325 honestly I agree if its not stackable, but also it kinda feels safer to dive against mages now since you have a bit of cushion per dash, and more cushion when you're exiting the dive in case any attacks were still tracking you
@Celestia3252 ай бұрын
@@Kodukushi compare the shield to her first skill shield its 400 at max level +150 total magic power if she could barely survive with that how is she going to survive with this 200-300 + 100 total magic power, if they increased the magic scaling then it would be a different story.
@SUKUNA19122 ай бұрын
@@Kodukushi The only 2 people who can speak about Selene buffs and nerfs are Celeste and Lian TV.
@Kodukushi2 ай бұрын
@@SUKUNA1912 Dude the entire claim was that I don’t get it. I’m not taking the high ground. Don’t gatekeep judging how mechanics are changed just because some people post more about them
@ALIDEDROАй бұрын
its good if they kept some of the old scaling and the first skill now is basically kinda usless.. i don't think its worth it to use basic attack anymore just dash or something.. they need to add new effect for the abyssal form first skill.. like buff the shield from the second skill or make it give magical pen or power idk... thats my thoughts
@tanhouzerАй бұрын
It's a buff. It means you can dive deeper in the turret.
@stanloonaur692 ай бұрын
this is like making fanny get her stacks from basic attacks. like, what the hell?
@AffilatorGamer2 ай бұрын
Damn your voice is so 🤧🤧 dreamy jeez got me more focused than the video itself
@I-Am-Asmodeus-322 ай бұрын
simp
@lintangtimur92312 ай бұрын
IMO it'll be better if they added the new Garotte shield passive effect while maintaining her old 1st abyss skill shield effect
@kubiluga69382 ай бұрын
yeah but you're forgetting that she gets this shield EVERY SINGLE TIME she dashes. Theres enough time between the first and fourth dash for her to have lost the shield entirely in a usual fight. This means that she will usually be able to get a 600 + 200%mp shield which is way higher.
@ree7lilen7102 ай бұрын
can't believe i found out about this channel now. Hopefully u can get into the advanced server soon and start actually testing it for yourself
@acapellaseto2 ай бұрын
along with the damage buffs I think it’s overall net positive so it should still be a buff or at least net neutral
@stanloonaur69Ай бұрын
update: the changes have been all undone 🎉🎉🎉
@Celestia325Ай бұрын
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@terranashsleepstories2 ай бұрын
1. i mean if they kept the skill 1 shield that is nice. skill 2 shield is useless since you are dashing quickly and the target is stunned. so they really can't attack you back. unless of course its in the tower or there is the enemy teammates. and if that's the case. just don't go in. keep eyes on the map and decide if going in the is best option. no point in again shielf with skill 2. as for skill 1, its necessary to get the shield. that's because you are already commiting to the fight. skill 2 is either hope in and out. skill 1 is like, let's freaking fight man. im here to going head to head with you. lol, also skill 1's shield allows many outplays. 2. Skill 1 foreswing: well that's good. i dont mind but since i use just skill 1 to check map. Combo with skill 2 and quick skill 1 is what i use often. so that's very unneccesary in my gameplay. as i often 3 or 4th finger map pointing and also aiming at the target. took me like 1 month to get used to it. lol but she's so much fun to play with high potential outplay and versitility. Just pop, skill 1 around the enemy path so they can be your "dash point" to rotate and attack the back line or just escape.
@davegecat1592 ай бұрын
They made her first into a worse version of karina's they really should add something to it like make it a 1 to 1 copy and make it critical with lower multipliers or it really is just a mini dash to reset her big dash at this point
@Mio4co2 ай бұрын
they're doing these things to sell selena new upcoming skin like last vexana skin but end up making worse "(
@Celestia3252 ай бұрын
@@Mio4co this adjustment isn't bad by all means it's honestly just confusing, I guess we'll just have to wait and see how ppl perform after the adjustment
@nighteye52532 ай бұрын
Hold on, the fact that the shield regenerates after every dash means you can keep the shield up when dashing. You don't have to wait for it to break. Is that not a buff?
@Celestia3252 ай бұрын
@@nighteye5253 I do have to admit, yes that could be a key factor I missed however the shield is still basically insignificant compared to her first skill shield.
@nighteye52532 ай бұрын
I agree, it's smaller, but the fact you can regenerate it up to four times consecutively is pretty good (probably two or three time more often than not, but that's still more shield than the single first skill). Just my opinion of course.
@Prince_Syangtan2 ай бұрын
I just started playing selena few months ago. I started playing selena because I like fast and agile heroes. So what is this moonton??
@REN43332 ай бұрын
Wow lovely VC 🎉
@nerf_xuaihiamАй бұрын
"I've been wanting to hear your voice all day
@Meisgood93523 күн бұрын
Why does ml keep making hard heroes "easier" for noobies. First lunox and now selena? Selena is literally imo one of the only balanced heroes in ml. She has good burst and mobility and a shield to counter the fact that she is squishy and has to dive in. Moving the shield to the dash is completely useless like you said. You'd have to wait in between each dash just to get the maximum benefits from the shield. Selena should be a fast hero, you go in and you come out,in no world should she have to wait between dashes. Ml fr be fixing things that weren't broken😢😢😢
@stanloonaur692 ай бұрын
update: asked lyn abt his opinion on the matter. he said it's a good change and that he fears selena will become perma banned in rank due to it. wtf is going on😢
@Celestia3252 ай бұрын
@@stanloonaur69 I think we have different standpoints, in reality I kinda over- exaggerated the adjustment thinking it's a nerf but it can be interpreted depending on the player
@Celestia3252 ай бұрын
Essentially Imo they're just giving less of an incentive to use her first skill, so if you mess up your dash shield you're kinda screwed making the whole first skill removal kinda unnecessary.
@KimurazsАй бұрын
Ummm or maybe just start the combo when the trap is ready to attack so you don’t have to wait for the stacks like elgin did? This is better now for fast and slow combos because you can do it more than one time I’ve been playing selena from when she released and its so easy to time your combo to make it so you can immediately use 4 dashes one after another without waiting by just waiting for the right timing for the trap
@davegecat1592 ай бұрын
The only buff she needs is to make critical items adaptive and she will be a must ban.
@tatsukii74572 ай бұрын
i love ur content
@Aral_mlbb2 ай бұрын
Thanks for the information and hope you get well
@Celestia3252 ай бұрын
thank youu 🤧
@MDAbdulAhadKhan-uy9ks2 ай бұрын
😂😂😂@@Celestia325
@froger72 ай бұрын
bruh how am I going to play on her, just a nerf for me
@tusharvyas6774Ай бұрын
I have never subscribed a youtuber but when I heared her voice I did it in 3 seconds
@quwgamex2 ай бұрын
Remember when they were making that one Selena adjustment where she could instantly place a trap to a stunned enemy? I don’t like that they are making her essentially a baby hero/no skill hero Yknow how hard I had to work my ass just to get good at her? I commented on Hororo chan’s video and I was like yeah this is good faster jungle speed Alr(I hadn’t watched the entire video as yet) I continue to watch only to see the absolute bs they are doing to her and honestly I think it cuz her butterfly and Zenith skin are coming soon but cmon man 🫤
@Dark_Phoenix_20082 ай бұрын
Still waiting for a selena tutorial,btw hope you get well soon 👀
@xChaosPsycho2 ай бұрын
this one change is just very… unnecessary? the reduced foreswing and faster clearing ability is great but why did they have to change something that wasn’t broken
@ScribbleCats2 ай бұрын
this changes make her shield can stack so
@CZ-Nutshell2 ай бұрын
Yeah it wasn't that great anymore, it being stackable would be better but no 😭😭 I previously played her i advanced server, she's fine but depends on the team more, i also just became food for assassins bcs the second skil is so difficult to aim with their mobility..
@Yuuuki1712 ай бұрын
The shield is for running or escaping
@kedo76712 ай бұрын
Nerf? , it doesn’t matter u will still cook with her .
@nether_prince30212 ай бұрын
Um. It's weird that your argument is circling around selena's sustainability. She's assassin-mage. Not a fighter. It's correct that she'd be squishy. It's not wrong. Also I seems to never saw her first skill as sustainability tool. I just saw it as more dmg. After all, why you need to sustain as an assassin ? Assassin's job is kill/ambush, dip out, wait for the right moment to jump in again, kill, repeat. If you kill the dmg dealer, you don't need to worry about taking dmg.
@Celestia3252 ай бұрын
If you compare her to most assassin's they have mechanics that could let them sustain or last a few more crucial seconds to hopefully turn the fight around such as Aamon, Helcurt. fanny, ling. Hayabusa etc don't get me wrong you're totally right Selena isn't a fighter but her mechanics that are supposed to help her survive feel very redundant compared to other assassins.
@suanguite45732 ай бұрын
Yes...Its definitely a Nerf (P.S Coz Celeste say so)
@I-Am-Asmodeus-322 ай бұрын
they started doing this crappy adjustments to make the game easier........... they only want new player and don't care about old players...
@duskgleam46342 ай бұрын
i love your voice, it's so soothing
@bulletzw53832 ай бұрын
cmon mobile legends, what are these nerfs 🙄😒
@Celestia3252 ай бұрын
@@bulletzw5383 get outta here 👻
@Newsnewt2 ай бұрын
They should just make the shield stack
@MDAbdulAhadKhan-uy9ks2 ай бұрын
Nice 🙂🇧🇩
@Megumi_Official8742 ай бұрын
Yea this is bad I use this hero now after this nobody is gonna use her thanks for telling us
@pointlesscapybara63022 ай бұрын
This is called a skill issue ngl
@Celestia3252 ай бұрын
@@pointlesscapybara6302 thank you pointless capybara for telling me that 😘
@pointlesscapybara63022 ай бұрын
@Celestia325 mb 😭😭😭
@davegecat1592 ай бұрын
The only buff she needs is to make critical items adaptive and she will be a must ban.
@Megumi_Official8742 ай бұрын
Yea this is bad I use this hero now after this nobody is gonna use her thanks for telling us