HEREDITARY occult origins of the PAIMON demon

[@collativelearning]

Regarding my HALLOWEEN analysis, posted a few days ago, one of the distributors seems unable to recognize that I was promoting their product for free and that my use of their clips falls under Fair Use. It may take a while to get that dispute resolved (if it does get resolved). So I've uploaded this clip from my new video-in-progress. The full version is probably gonna clock in at around the 2 hr mark so it's unlikely there'll be any new uploads on here this week. Enjoy!

[@august6389]

They should be fuckin' killed. No trial, no jury, straight to execution!

[@FirstLast-hi7vv]

I’ll be buying this one. Just post whenever the hell you are finished and take my goddamn money.

[@Sandra-hc4vo]

i feel like there has been a lot of things taken down on youtube lately. there used to be lots more free movies on youtube i think then there is now for instance, so i guess I'm not surprised.

[@collativelearning]

@@august6389 No, that's Jody, that's my wife.

[@SocietyOfTheSpectacl]

I think you will find that Solomons lesser key is a Book of Planetary conjunctions. The greek Philosopher Proclus makes a point of indicating the difference between Deic Monads "Daemons" the planets and demons, evil spirits.

[@jwnj9716]

I'm glad we never get to see the demon, the director has so many ways to keep his presence around the film, kinda like the Blair Witch. That's all you need.

[@pragmaticcynicism6911]

Yeah, you only risk it being corny if you show it.

[@august6389]

I saw the demon. If you purse the film at 28:15 minutes in you'll see it too

[@MagusMarquillin]

@@august6389 I don't see anything like that. Is it during that first pan through the party, a couple seconds after the telephone pole?

[@august6389]

@@MagusMarquillin I was messing around

[@MagusMarquillin]

@@august6389 Oh. I hope it was good for you at least.

[@jb-kx3rk]

changing the sigil from 4 to 3 features at the top to avoid copyright claims from literal hell

[@2025-e4n]

They didn't want nobody's spiritual blood to be on their hands!

[@youhustlinmeboi5335]

I hear their lawyer's are devils.

[@dennismartin5821]

Watch out! Paimon will sue your ass for defamation of character. Possibly even defecation of character, for shitting all over his good name. Can't be too careful now days.

[@wasd____]

Well, more like copyright claims from Crowley's estate. But yeah, getting sued by someone for using the actual sigil was probably a very real concern, and that's probably why it was changed.

[@thenowchurch6419]

Like they say "As above, so below". LOL.

[@peybak]

Imagine my surprise when people in the movie started calling my name.

[@penelopegreene]

See if anyone is willing to deal with the fact they could spell it "Pay Man", and indeed, the cultists want wealth and power. I also commiserate with your name situation, having a similar one myself.

[@peybak]

Yes, it's a common Persian name. This is why I think the name in the movie is probably not based on anything Arabic because they don't have a "P" in their alphabet.

[@patrickmckenna6391]

Excellent Smithers. Excellent.

[@FirstLast-hi7vv]

Lmao 😂

[@jeffwalker6815]

That's amazing. That's how I felt when I finally saw Cliffhanger and got to hear John Lithgow curse 'Walker'.

[@yavrielsechelle7431]

I wouldn't be surprised if those details about Paimon were changed for the movie out of a superstition/fear that they might actually conjure up something. I could see an occult expert being on hand suggesting that.

[@collativelearning]

You know what, that thought crossed my mind too lol

[@spinlok3943]

Yavriel Sechelle There are apparently also real cults who worship Paimon so maybe in some respects he didn’t want to give them attention.

[@yavrielsechelle7431]

@@spinlok3943 Perhaps, yes. That's always a possibility.

[@FirstLast-hi7vv]

I always think that lol fuck around and bring that bastard to this realm over some ticket sales and we’re all fucked haha

[@qwave1322]

Very interesting. Or it was to put people off the idea of trying to summon them.

[@judofry]

"I'm not an occult expert" exactly what an occult expert would say...

[@ambientjohnny]

Pretty clear he isn't though...

[@AmbrosialAsh6667]

And there's 93 likes on this comment 😂 🔺 🔻

[@andrewjenkins9965]

Might depend on the expert. Some occultists would RELISH the opportunity to brag about their occult expertise.

[@WisdomCat2198]

@xdarkdreamsx be sure not to cut yourself with all that edge

[@usrnotfound1859]

true.... hmm

[@GossipPoet]

the music coming with Paimon is kind of in the film, as the music playing in the end once he's been summoned and is inside Peter's body has trumpets and is supposed to represent the musicians that follow paimon.

[@collativelearning]

That's a good point yes. We don't see the band but it's there in a sneakier way.

[@SlothhhKinggg]

@Sparrow Heart I love those memes

[@alansunter2383]

@@collativelearning My headcanon is that the band are still in Hell, but they're watching from bellow and celebrating their master's triumph.

[@redblackandgreen1117]

@@collativelearning ,thanks for your video. interestingly I read some were that the word 'Paymon' meant a 'twinkling sound'.At the end of the movie when the score "reborn' is played ,just before the horns blare ,there is a twinkling sound'. So yes,i think that its conclusive,the music of reborn is the music that accompanies the Demon.

[@misscanada18]

At the very beginning of the movie you can hear the band & camel footsteps!

[@ladymsthing6056]

Interesting that Paiman’s staff looks like the hand gesture the son made in class when he was possessed.

[@michaelcarrasquillo4781]

I’m shooketh.

[@wildazcat25]

As above,so below

[@kygodragon4782]

You clearly didn't understand the movie at all 😂🍗

[@mfh7707]

NORTHWEST....they called him from there...

[@anubusx]

Peter gets a Burger King crown at the end.

[@heroicjourney2508]

😂😂😂😂😂😂

[@dustrepellent8986]

🤣🤣🤣🤣I’m dead

[@akhileshchunam5094]

@@heroicjourney2508 😂😂😂

[@MrAlienautopsy]

That ain’t Peter no mo. Peter lost his marbles and is now a mere shell inhabited by Charlie and Paimon. I just gotta say..this movie makes no sense whatsoever. That being said it’s a beautiful and amazing piece of film making. It just would have been better if it made some sort of sense.

[@finalbreath15]

He had it his way

[@devingauthier2933]

Peter swerves to avoid a dead deer, which leads to his sister's death. Later in the movie one of Peter's teachers mentions Iphigenia. She had to be sacrificed because her father accidentally killed one of Artemis' sacred deer. Iphigenia's brother Orestes was known for his madness. Orestes' mother Clytemnestra kills his father, Agamemnon, and Orestes later avenges his father's death by killing her. Really not sure how deep these connections are supposed to be but to me the deer and the later mention of Iphigenia are suggestive.

[@javajav3004]

whoa

[@theinnerlight8016]

Goethe wrote a theater piece about Iphigenie's time before her sacrifice on the island taurus. That's where I knew the story from. I like it when old myths are skillfully woven into new stories. 👌

[@buckfidencoincidencetheori7200]

I always thought it was a goat

[@user-nw9sq4mv9y]

Nice

[@tonywords6713]

Paimons musical accompaniment IS in the film via the track “Reborn”. It’s said he’s accompanied by an army of lesser demons and imps with trumpets and cymbals, which is exactly what we hear. The reason they made slight changes is to avoid invocation of the actual demon on the audience, they even changed the pronunciation from PIE-MON to PAY-MON. Also the image we see of Paimon on a camel was drawn by aster :)

[@SecularOpinion]

"The reason they made slight changes is to avoid invocation of the actual demon on the audience"...lol...stfu nutbag

[@tonywords6713]

SecularOpinion tell it to the people who made the movie sheep

[@desireandfire]

Finnic Patriot why are you using autism as an insult dumb ass

[@omnijonn277]

But where is the Camel??

[@starqueen3270]

Honestly, I think Ari Aster changed the Paimon symbol because he didn't want him accidentally summoned.

[@edrick106]

Lol

[@williamhannon6055]

True

[@rodriguezjoseantonio506]

Clever.

[@bergman6581]

That is so true. It is a old common tradition with "pact with the devil" book authors anyway. They put all the complicated things you need to summon but they leave out 1 or 2 items out or changed it for another one so the summoning will be a failure. In other words it is just for entertainment purposes. Because once the demon appears if you break the etiquette or by accident piss him off you would end up in the psychiatric ward for life or worst, so the authors didn't want to be liable if you did something witchy.

[@aplus8927]

@@bergman6581 or, get this, they just don’t exist

[@dhruvram9021]

My take on Bebal and Abalam is that Annie and her mother's headless bodies were never possessed by Paimon (as he hates being in a woman's body), but rather it was his servants Bebal and Abalam working to push the son to his breaking point so Paimon could possess him at his weakest. It explains why those headless bodies are still animated and the closest to his feet(his most loyal servants) even after Paimon has found his permanent host in the son's body.

[@ivanatreides]

I love this movie. One of the best recent horror films.

[@sullygroot924]

Care to tell me how this movie is so good? I've watched it 3 times and don't see the genius i see 2 halves of good movies mushed together, there isn't any real set up for the occult angle it just kind of happens so obviously im missing something so please, honestly, tell me what im missing

[@oceanpacific3841]

@@sullygroot924 the set up for the occult angle was in the very beginning of the movie , watch the scene where she's in therapy talking about how her brother was saying mom's putting voices in my head , the mother was trying to possess the son

[@sullygroot924]

@@oceanpacific3841 so you're suppose to jump to a conclusion based off of one line the first time you watch it?

[@oceanpacific3841]

@@sullygroot924 no it's not even that , at the mothers funeral ,most of the people attending were cult members , the lady who helped out with the weji board was also a member, and even Charlie seeing those bright lights being possessed by paimon was genetic ( hereditary) that family was trying to manifest paimon for awhile

[@sullygroot924]

@@oceanpacific3841 I missed all of that, I don't think it deserves a repeat viewing

[@giancarlojacobs9982]

I found it actually very brilliant that Paimon makes no direct physical appearance yet manipulates so many events/people in the movie. I feel like it's closer to how a demon would operate

[@digitalhouse6969]

@Alooof23 they have a physical form in hell which is the original but they can't bring it to other realms. the only way for them to travel to other worlds is in spirit form

[@jokerumbrellabtr]

@@digitalhouse6969 where did you learn this?

[@digitalhouse6969]

@@jokerumbrellabtr it's known, god would not allow them to spawn on human realm lol or else we will all just die. but in hell it's another story

[@digitalhouse6969]

@@jokerumbrellabtr also they are not allowed to show them self to the world using media for example, demons need to do their thing in secret

[@jokerumbrellabtr]

@@digitalhouse6969 but where do you get this info from, who was this known by and passed down from?

[@Nicallica11]

Paimon does actually appear as a flash, it's a blue light that moves around the room. But still would have been cool to see him in full form.

[@kygodragon4782]

You're dumb, it was meant to be seen as the mums magnifying glass light, not a blue random light 😂🍗

[@happychaosofthenorth]

@@kygodragon4782 The light appears several times in the film, it's not just the magnifying glass. Anyway, I think that if we saw Paimon in his demon form, it would've negatively impacted the movie, not make it bad per se, but at least to me, it's the things unseen left to our imaginations that are the scariest.

[@kygodragon4782]

@@happychaosofthenorth Yes it signifies the magnifying glass...

[@kygodragon4782]

@Brandan. T.Josiah Yes you idiot it is paimon but the light is supposed to be the magnifying glass, it's half the reason the mum has the job she does in the film. Jesus christ try and think before you blurt out shit.

[@yatez97]

@Mary Burdette naw it makes sense. The characters are all dolls being played by much larger forces. The light signifies Paimons role as puppet (or miniature) master. That's why the mom has the job she does: to clue the audience in

[@1badMucker]

*clicks tongue* Ight Imma head out

[@VeNoMziV]

Carlos Sanchez 'head out' was that intentional haha

[@montywolfe8900]

Lol

[@briankoontz1]

You should have said you're going to "head off".

[@helldronez]

wkwkwkkwka fuk, i jumped by that. thats the horror.

[@bvrzak90]

6:27 - I think we do see Paimon's two accompanying demons. Once we see Peter's body possessed by Paimon, we still see Annie's decapitated body floating around, still possessed. Shortly after, we see both Annie's and Grandma Lee's decapitated bodies movie all on their own to bow to Paimon/Peter/Charlie - presumably because their bodies were possessed by the two attendant demons.

[@dfailsthemost]

It may sound silly, but some of the inconsistencies may be intentional since horror fans often lack superstition but do sometimes stick with "better safe than sorry". In other words, i dont want to be eaten by a demon no matter how 0% chance it's real.

[@user-ld7ch1er6j]

I wonder if depicting Papuzu in The Exorcist was a good decision.

[@JMBell]

Dromedaries (Arabian camels) have a single hump, whereas Bactrian camels have two. Is this significant? Perhaps not. Did I feel an overwhelming urge to point it out? Yes. Very much looking forward to the full video.

[@natas3.14]

Is this significant? You jest, as it is in fact the single hump; opposed, to two that holds more significance than any other aspect of the film. Astounding man!

[@antonioortiz4544]

You are correct. And Mr Ager is wrong: Dromedary is not another word for camel.

[@JMBell]

@@antonioortiz4544 Well, Rob's analysis doesn't hinge on the Arabian/Bactrian camel dichotomy, so you'll have to forgive him that one.

[@Spudcore]

Exactly what I was about to say! Glad I scrolled down first.

[@johnturncoat3531]

One is four cylinder the other 6

[@eaglesdefense812]

I read online somewhere Paimon is also God of rheumatoid disease, hence staff, ie. deformed hand. When Charlie cuts bird's head, occultist across street raises one arm in similar gesture. During Peter's attack in class, he also raised his right hand in similar gesture

[@gaiterade1006]

Paimon: I'm a terrifying demon. Genshin Impact devs: We're going to ruin this demon's whole career.

[@siphonophores]

But what if Paimon is the unknown god and is the final boss of the game

[@Bella-po8vh]

@@siphonophores they will break a lot of fans’ hearts that way tbh but ngl it will be pretty interesting if that’s what happens

[@chisas_student1091]

@@siphonophores i think paimons the time god

[@deusakremosa]

I fucking love Hereditary's Paimon.... I fucking hate Genshin's Paimon kkkkkkkkkkkkkk

[@RecordedMercury]

I don't care if this offends any of you but Genshin Impact is absoulte fucking garbage. It just goes to show weebs will buy any shit game with anime slapped onto it. It has probably the most basic, lazy, and repetitive story that every anime has been using for the past decade

[@Blastertronus]

I find it pretty funny how the name of a demon from a horror film went to to be the name of a cute mascot of some Chinese anime game.

[@shikigranbell7608]

"HEHE TE NANDAYO"

[@nothingtoseeexceptwaifus]

You said it like it's a bad thing

[@KhanhNguyen-mh5ec]

I mean it could mean we are Lucifer expy.

[@RavanaMuse]

@@shikigranbell7608 ... As a Japanese person. Please stop. I'm not an aesthetic or a cute quote. You literally sound like a child.

[@RavanaMuse]

The fact a Genshin nerd has to tell a weeb to calm down.. girl. Lmao

[@mauricedibert2635]

If I am not mistaken "a dead hand" would mean trance writing, medium writing (it has various names) ie a person with psychic abilitys who is in contact with a spirit and allows him/herself to be used to write a message (if you believe that stuff). It was popular at the time of Crowly and the seance/occult craze.

[@RavenWolfDrum69]

Automatic writing.. Jimmy page and Robert plant experienced this making stairway to heaven

[@thenowchurch6419]

That may be the case. Another theory is that Crowley was quite the jokester and was taking a stab at Mathers, who was probably dead by the time Crowley got a hold of the manuscript.

[@mauricedibert2635]

@@thenowchurch6419 perhaps; no love lost between them: SRMD in Moonchild.

[@thenowchurch6419]

@@mauricedibert2635 Exactly, my friend.

[@Lozzo207]

@@RavenWolfDrum69 Perhaps.. possibly with Spirit by Taurus on the the radio in the background...

[@mk-km4qt]

wait... this isn't the cute little paimon

[@mgpt2487]

emergency food

[@TitanJonkler]

Ehe Te Nandaiyo

[@anishamishra7342]

@@TitanJonkler Osoraku kawaidesu

[@231-isntthisalotoffun4]

Colin Stetson's multi-tracked saxophone soundtrack does an excellent job of evoking Paimon's band, and I'm pretty sure this was intentional.

[@rayb4615]

I also believe that the sigil change for Paimon could be due to not offending practitioners, but could it also be the trope for the Trinity - there were also 3 sacrifices for Paimon - The grandmother, Charlie and the mother. The father was killed to prevent any interference not a true sacrifice.

[@collativelearning]

the father could be considered a sacrifice too - burned alive.

[@m1ghtysauc3E]

My favorite horror movie in years and in my top 10 all time.

[@Kianamon]

100% agree

[@GarciansVortex]

It’s so good

[@GamingMedic777]

After watching this video, I made some notes and rewatched the film. What stood out to me was your comment about Paimon being escorted by loud music. Although we don't hear any music besides the ambient soundtrack, Peter's room is filled with musical instruments. He's even strumming on a guitar while in bed during one of his first convo's with his mom. Brilliant video, btw. Thank you for sharing.

[@Mike28625]

Jeanies or the Djinn are legends based on older, islamic stories of angels and demons. King Solomon from the Bible is purported to be the author of the original key of Solomon and the goetia. His ritual of binding demons inside of brass vessels was the inspiration for Aladdin's lamp.

[@1980jaram]

Post a invoice and I’ll check

[@andrewjenkins9965]

If I'm not mistaken, djinn predate Islam. But yeah, it's really interesting how well they were integrated (which reminds me a bit of how fairies were integrated into Christian beliefs in Ireland, though very differently) and the lore that developed out of this integration.

[@nnnn1777]

In islam they call these type demon\djinn as Ifrits; they are the worse djinns and they might have been imprison by Prophet Solomon

[@freyaodinsdottir2207]

Pretty sure the Djinn predate Islam; Astaroth, for example, has ties to the Sumerian goddess, Ishtar. Some of the demons/djinns in the Ars Goetia come from older gods and goddesses before any of the Abrahamic religions.

[@Mike28625]

@@freyaodinsdottir2207 I don't disagree with that. But it was the Islamic world that gave the name of Djinn to those older entities. The story of the genie in the lamp is a relatively modern reimagining of much older tales.

[@joaootana6348]

I believe the sigil has 3 parts to resemble the three decapitations/sacrifices made for Paimon to arise: grandma, Charlie and Annie.

[@haerverk]

There is a constellation of 3 that is being passed down. Mother, son and daughter. Remember why the brother/uncle killed himself. This exact scenario was tried and failed a generation earlier.

[@gremlin5813]

You forgot to mention that Paimon is good emergency food.

[@jibicusmaximus4827]

Ah yes, the fat from around the kidneys and meat they used to get to the North Pole right?

[@OMGitsTerasu]

Those are call pimentos!!

[@secondnature87]

6:26 My theory is the the grandmother & mother both fill these demons rolse in a symbolic sense since their corpses seemed to be able to move freely as seen in the last scene where they turn around from the effigy to face the physical Paimon. There is also the scene in the high school where Peter sees the 3 ethereal circles on the wall which could be Paimon and these other 2 demons. The subtlety/symbolism in this movie is A+

[@Brokout]

Grimoire means a magical book or text and is pronounced grim-wah. Goetia is pronounced 'go-ee-sha'.

[@foreignmilk]

idk...i tend to pronounce things as written. thats like those douche bags who call new orleans nawlins. fuck all that

[@allwhitelegos]

@@foreignmilk doo-ch bags

[@Nostalgia_Addict]

@@foreignmilk eedeeot

[@ravixof159]

I really hate youtube. I didnt even get a notification of this video...

[@RighteousBrother]

Me neither, found it this morning. Would have been great last night at 2am when I couldn't sleep.

[@davidreynold7919]

I really didn't have problem

[@bebeezra]

The manifestation of Paimon was most felt during the subtle scenes vs the overtly visceral.

[@freyaodinsdottir2207]

I'm not sure if you ever had a chance to read the book "The Exorcist" but in the book (I'm positive it's not mentioned in the movie, at all) there is a conversation between Father Karas and Detective Kinderman where they discuss that witches would either have their heads turned around, loss their heads, or that a sign of a witch was having their head turned backwards. I think the association of decapitation in "Hereditary" comes from the same folklore or occult symbolism that "The Exorcist" drew from. I think the association with three, too, may be a mockery of the holy trinity. It's a belief in paranormal research that signs of a demonic presence always comes in threes -- scratches, knocking, and 3am. If not, it's a popular plot device in storytelling.

[@crazymage9636]

This has to be the best horror movie I've seen lately, haven't got the same kick out of anything horror since. Although has similar vibes with Midsommer, same director just the horror has a more realistic serious tone, almost the same feeling as seeing the Blair Witch Project as a 10 year old for the first time thinking it was real.

[@RealLukeWilson]

The great thing about all those old texts of mythology and folklore is that so many of them have been told and changed over time, allowing a lot of creative license wiggle room. Like, most Brothers Grimm stories are just the first written versions of them, and there are countless other slightly different tellings throughout the centuries. There probably isn’t really a “definitive” lore for Paimon, which means that Ari Aster’s depiction is just as valid as Crowley’s (who, let’s face it, was more of a poser anyway).

[@bug______]

i like how the theme for Hereditary "Reborn" is supposed to be Paimon's brass orchestra signaling his arrival

[@EricJacobusOfficial]

Thank you for the thorough analysis. Films like Hereditary are proper cautionary tales against the Crowley-styled conjuring of foreign gods. Unfortunately there's no resolution like in more traditional films like The Exorcist. A24, the studio behind this film and other recent occult films like Witch, seems to have one foot in the horrors of occultism and the other in the postmodern world where there's no real, cultural resolution to these issues. The west has psychoanalyzed the original meaning away from any symbolic resolutions. So today, audiences are always left with these awful endings where (spoiler alert) people just succumb to these demons and things get worse because we have no response.

[@cultofthevoid5677]

I've worked with King Paimon. He's nothing like he's portrayed in this film. He's actually very friendly and he's helped me a lot.

[@Nova-j2u]

@@cultofthevoid5677 right

[@briggy4359]

@@cultofthevoid5677 yeah, he took me out to the golf course, super down to earth.

[@douglas2437]

Well this movie is basically a remake of Rosemary's Baby which is from 1968 and results in the total success of the Satanists. So... I'm not sure of the strength of your characterisation of this being purely modern moviemaking.

[@ottopotatum5775]

@@cultofthevoid5677 of course he is. He s our woke queen king paimon

[@christopherbrown2640]

You can actually hear angelic music once Paimon possesses Peter at the end of the film.

[@ericbozenhard2773]

There were several scenes when it manifested as a blue flash. Remember the scene where Charlie is in her room, then goes to sit on her bed and look out her window? Blue flash scrolls across above her head just before that. And what about the burning of it's seal into the telephone pole?

[@RozArialind]

wait this isnt paimon from genshin

[@Aethereality]

LMAO there’s another Paimon in an anime as well. I forget the name.

[@TitanJonkler]

@@Aethereality Welcome to Demon School Iruma Kun

[@krisonveloc25]

@@Aethereality Magi

[@KevinM88TR11]

There's not many movies that really get my blood boiling, but this one does. Alot of it i did not see coming but know about the occult it really surprised me how well they did.

5:44 The band that precedes him does "appear" in the film in the form of the score. In the final scene the music was deliberately composed to have sounds that simulate trumpets and cymbals.

[@JoshuaAmaro]

Once again you have produced an essay worthy of praise... very interesting

[@MetalGames95]

The dromedary is a camel with a single lump, while camels have two

[@acrophobe]

Notice how Charlie's head is basically severed even in the poster art.

[@SinSynn]

Aw, man...this is gonna lead me down a deep, dark rabbit hole tonight. I'll be clicking from one video about daemons to the next until my eyes bleed... And I'm sure I'll be thoroughly creeped out. Thanks, Rob!

[@Hb2N]

What’s crazy is people actually worship this demon today.

[@peterpoopeater]

Don't forget to exorcise your web browser when you're done👍🏻😉

[@ameilioracryptos5298]

@@peterpoopeaterlol

[@americanstruggler587]

I would recommend you not. Or if you choose to be careful with what information you intake. Can lead to insanity, mania, or death.

[@zoeyy504]

This demon is very real. Occultist here

[@drcrowlee]

I have studied Crowley intensely for many years. Pronunciations aside you did a great job researching, Rob! More Hereditary please! It's my 2nd favorite film!

[@jeffwalker6815]

This movie was epic and Midsommar broke my soul.

[@AidenRKrone]

I like when writers/directors/producers take entities from real-life folklore, demonology, and spirituality and alter it to fit their style. It shows that the creators are willing to creatively adapt preexisting subject matter to fit their stories. That's better than copying preexisting material in its entirety.

[@kantvishi]

Regarding the music part at 5:48, Aster confirmed that the music in the opening shot of the outhouse is Paimon's arrival. Complete with his voice and camel's hooves.

[@bradramsey683]

Hey Rob, just a thought here about Paemon not having his accompanying band. I would actually argue that this does happen in the film, as if you listen to the song “Reborn” by Colin Stetson on the soundtrack, it has the most orchestral sound to it, which I interpret as the otherworldly, unholy band heralding Paemon’s arrival.

[@Jalmerk]

I like to think that the music at the end is actually diegetic, that what we hear is Paimons following of lesser demons playing otherworldly music.

[@jimmyan1976]

but but but... Paimon is your best travel companion...?

[@krisonveloc25]

Traveler: You're my best companion right? Paimon: =) Traveller: right....?

[@allisonteknon9811]

Paimon is a teacher of the arts and sciences including astronomy, fine arts, agriculture etc... this movie is a complete diversion from the description of him in just about every text he’s discussed. Turning him into a scary apparition is weird. Traditionally he is said to have both angels and demons under his command.

[@siobhanchristine-bligh183]

Sauce?

[@remus9999]

@@siobhanchristine-bligh183 Trust me bro.

[@jacobclark6002]

They do at the end say, "teach us all secret things", and aren't demons just angels with an allegiance to satan and hell instead of god and heaven?

[@mskhan2847]

i watched this movie last year in winter alone.. that was worst experience of my life.. because i thought its only a movie but it was more than a movie. it was purely black magic ocult king paimon tribute.... i remember i cant sleep for weeks... i realized it was the scariest movie ever made

[@OfficialFidget]

Welp, it's time to watch Hereditary again.

[@Methodofication]

I really wonder if Rob read Asters AMA on reddit. He explained a lot about the movie there.

[@darkchaser25]

Paimon's marching Band is in the soundtrack at the end. Listen to the track Reborn.

[@gabrieladerre2862]

Pardon my nitpicking! However, The Lesser Key of Solomon is actually a grimoire of ceremonial/ritual magic, not Witchcraft! However, some traditions of Wicca and Witchcraft, especially Wicca, have adopted a number of techniques and practices from Ceremonial/Ritual Magic. Traditional Wicca, such as Gardnarian Wicca, and Alexandrian Wicca make much use of Ceremonial Magic in their rites, as well as their tools. Non-Wiccan Witchcraft tends to use a bit less Ceremonial Magic elements and such. Although it varies between groups and practitioners. Awesome video though!!!! :)

[@chocolatebunnies6376]

Gabriel Aderre I think it should be noted that the distinctions you’re making, and your definitions of these terms, are very modern constructs, not part of the natural development of language. «Wicca» got its modern meaning in the latter part of the twentieth century. The word «goetia» is in meaning related to «witchcraft», and making strict distinctions between different types of magic only makes sense within the framework of a belief-system or a fantasy-setting.

[@DozleZabi]

Paimon is accompanied by a band, its just the music of the soundtrack

[@matthewm3328]

@collativelearning Another great video! One thing to point out though. When they initially do the seance where Annie becomes possessed, the first voice heard is NOT Paemon. That was actually Charlie’s spirit. After some initial confusion on Charlie’s part while in Annie’s body, Annie is then possessed by Paemon and Charlie is forced out. I believe this is the only moment in the film where we get to see Charlie as a regular (non-possessed) little girl. At all other points in the movie Charlie is possessed by a weakened version of Paemon which is why she acts so strangely throughout the movie.

[@Hoogalindo]

Wasn't Charlie possessed from the start?

[@MetalMew2]

I would like to add I think the two headless corpses are supposed to be vessels for Paimon's two demon servants, or left and right hands. He is summoned alone, So it is pretty much cannon his two most devoted followers are going to be accompanying him, not a legion.

[@spenser9908]

Hints of strangers standing in semi-darkness and women in night gowns crawling along ceilings now sends a chill down my spine.

[@Bonklyboi]

I think the three kells instead of four also symbolizes the three generations it took to summon paimon successfully

[@missangel8053]

Anyone else came across this when they were searching for geshin impact paimon?

[@ViviSerendipity]

Lmao I was confused as heck

[@OfficialFidget]

You mentioned in a previous video regarding Hereditary about the sound effects at the very beginning, in particular when the camera zooms in on the miniature of the family house. Could that be the clopping of camel feet of Paimon entering their home? Could the buzzing of the flies be the "musicians" that accompany Paimon?

[@retroactivejealousy-worldl1805]

Great analysis, as always. I suspect they changed the sigil for fear of inviting or offending Paimon more than occultists lol

[@THE_Secular_Conservative]

I am an occutist and witch and have actively worked with Paimon. He is a Persian entity and rumor has it he was a king who was able to ascend to a very high level in the afterlife upon death. I cant substantiate this but what I can vouche for is that he provides good familiars that will help u learn. He also prefers to be called King Paimon. Yes he is one of the 9 demonic kings and has more legions under his command then any other of the other 72 goetic "demons", 200×2000=400,000 spirits under his control. I personally think that he was a God worshipped somewhere in ancient Persia as a good portion of the goetic "demons" were Gods not actual demons. This term demon comes from the word Daimon meaning spirit. The Abrahamic faiths later villanized these gods and the word daimon itself bc these entities were a threat to the power of their tribal god Yhwh who is actually a Canaanite storm deity which can be compared to Thor. King Paimon is actually very cool. He loves to teach and is willing to work with most that are respectful to him for offerings of incense, candles, wine, or honey (these are common offerings that can be given to most spirits). His specialty that is not listed in the goetia is the art of persuasion, the functionality of the human mind, and programming within psychology. He basically can push intent into someone to change their mind and or viewing things in one way or another. He has also been known to appear as a large cat during meditation. He is not Azazel and it is true that he is very close to Lucifer which means he is a direct emanation of him or within the Lucifer cluster. Along with his 2 companion subsidiary spirit he also has a Duke underneath him called Dantalion who is also very helpful. More information can be found on him with these... Secrets of the Gods KZbin Black witch coven website VK Jehenum web

[@freddykruger8229]

Thank you for this added info. Is there any suggestion for those new to this and seeking information and guidance? And literature?

[@carlcarter5636]

Shut the fck up man. This information is all over the internet as well. Your not a genius

[@Silkymud]

Thank you for this info! :)

[@NobodyCaresALot]

Make some videos on the subject if you feel so knowledgeable about the topic. Surely, there would be people who follow and can learn from such a gracious giver of knowledge.

[@nocturnesdreamscapes]

You need Jesus!

[@TeamVacaville]

I am posting this before watching this video, but one of my favorite aspects of watching Hereditary for the first time (I hadn't seen a trailer, just RedBoxed it on Rob Ager's suggestion) was that it had surprises from the first 3 minute opening until like the last 10 seconds of the film. Sure, the film hinted that Paimon was a demon or whatever, but the actual reveal at the end was awesome enough to make every additional viewing of the film a different experience than the first experience. Not better, but just an additional way to watch the movie for the extra experience. Both viewings are awesome (the first, and 2nd to infinity)

[@collativelearning]

It's incredibly multi-layered. I've probably watched it six times by now and not getting bored yet, but damn that first viewing in the cinema was unnerving.

[@hesprus]

Ari Aster has said the original cut of the film was over three hours in length, and the script available online has crucial scenes that fill out the story even further. It's a very dynamic work and what horror should aspire to be. It's a high-tension movie that moves at a very leisurely pace and spares us cheap jump scares. Midsommar is in different ways equally disturbing, especially after seeing the director's cut this past weekend; it's another story of inevitable doom - once you go in, you can never leave.

[@The_Tea_Brewer]

The Ars Goetia is not a "Witchcraft Book". It is a book on conjuration and summoning, along with a demonology dictionary. Yes, it is a grimoire; however, the magick performed / instructed within the text is ceremonial in nature whereas in witchery it is more folk based forms of magick. This would be considered sorcery and high / ceremonial magick.

[@infinitesimotel]

A "dead hand" may mean that it was channeled with automatic writing, i.e. the author received this information from somewhere.

[@MojiBeau]

About the band playing for him, that was the inspiration for the music at the end. Composer and director mentioned they wanted to capture that

[@antoinettejulianayzelman6361]

I don't consider Paimon the villain in this film. The real villains I think should be his worshippers - the very people who manipulated circumstances in order to make his return to the physical plane possible.

[@Reb3nga]

Yes!

[@rorypreston7178]

You do hear the bells and trumpets at the end

[@Persephone_07]

This is a meme you will only understand in 2020: Emergency Food.

[@felipelopes181]

hehe te nandayo!

[@ryanloney3448]

That book being written by “the dead hand” is most likely some occult reference to automatic writing, which is doing a seance to invoke a spirit with a pen and paper in your hands, and the spirit writes its text through you as a conduit. Robert Plant said the stairway to heaven lyrics were actually written this way, which makes the whole play it backwards actually scary and seem legit.

[@Razalkarp]

Maybe Aster picked the most loyal to Satan to symbolize in reality his loyalty to Lucifer.

[@eddysandland58]

Finally watched this Classic last night and wow I loved it! Gripping from beginning to end, script, score editing, DOP, acting Everything was Sooooo Good! Now I'm going to watch Midsomer (Probably spelt wrong?) Tonight! Thanks

[@TeatroGrotesco]

Don't worry about your pronunciation. Somethings are better left without being spoken accurately. No reason to challenge what we don't know or understand, believe or not...why try fate?

[@bergman6581]

The band that preced Paimon is in the soundtrack as is Paimon's roar. When you watch the last scene, pay attention to the soundtrack.

[@TheGoddamnJefe]

Written by a dead Hand? I I’d bet it was Tywin Lannister.

[@elvieann4949]

I think changing Paymon's sigil from 4 to 3 figures is to symbolize the three generations that are depicted in the movie. This would fit with the theme of heredity or heritability as well.

[@truvy_5544]

Dang I wanna watch the movie it made me even more "scared" about the ocult history

[@d1agram4]

I’m seeing your videos again all over the place for some reason. They were missing from showing up for a year

[@Ct-pv4fh]

The reason I couldn't take this film quite as seriously after playing Genshin

[@darkdemonqueen]

Fascinating stuff! Thank you for taking the time and energy to research all this 🤘😝

[@GreenTeaViewer]

I don't believe in the occult, but this movie is so creepy I can barely watch it.

[@loveyourself1803]

Occult means hidden. It’s not really anything to believe in

[@beren_bear4255]

You being so scared of the film indicates you do believe in it at least subconsciously or it wouldn't effect you.

[@joehorn1762]

@@beren_bear4255 no it doesn't. But nice try.

[@yelloteef9408]

dude this video made my day! keep up the amazing content please. I’d love to hear your take on the Lighthouse if you haven’t already done a video on it

[@NASkeywest]

Kings, Queens, senators, and CEOs are into this occultic knowledge....look where the power lays.

[@mattyice584]

The Wikileaks Clinton and podesta emails are what woke me up to this, referring to sacrificing a "chicken" to the bafomet.

[@wasd____]

Lay off the Alex Jones. Dude's a straight-up nut and these conspiracy theories aren't doing anyone any favors.

[@NASkeywest]

@@wasd____ Alex Jones is a shill. All ill say is just wait. One day soon all of us will know the truth.

[@tonywords6713]

Winston Deleon nice Thought Terminating Cliche.. too bad nobody said anything about Alex Jones

[@wasd____]

@@tonywords6713 I think you know perfectly well what I mean. Alex Jones sell-the-conspiracy types are all pushing the same garbage with the same (non-existent) level of quality to their reasoning. This is not a "Thought Terminating Cliche" because "thought terminating" would imply that there was ever any meaningful thought in these kinds of occult conspiracy claims to begin with.

[@drumbox9768]

Thank you for these in depth video's! Absolutely love your channel!!

[@Zarastro54]

The changing of Paimon's sigil to 3 figures rather than 4 seems to have been to better fit within the film's theme of "three." Paimon, and the lore surrounding him in the film, seems to be somewhat of a corruption of the Holy Trinity and the important biblical number of 3. Triangles are a common occurrence, the picture of him has three severed heads on the camel, he required three sacrifices in the form of the mother, the daughter, and the unholy spirit, and the cultists outright say that they reject the trinity at the end of the film.

[@mr.rodgers9891]

I was quite surprised by this film. Many horror movies today lack subtlety. And I enjoy when films use real world legends to enhance it. The Witch is also this way. However, I think The Witch was a better movie. I still enjoyed Hereditary overall.

[@sad-death]

Aye Rob! I have been watching your analysis videos on and off for quite some time now, I have always consistently enjoyed them. they have helped me appreciate the tasty subtext of the film medium! And I hate to be a bother, but I was wondering if you could do an analysis on the 1999 film Ravenous? not just for me, but for the everyone. It’s an incredibly underrated classic that I feel deserves more attention. I don’t know why no one has talked about it! and if you are reading this, I greatly appreciate the time you took to do so, thanks :^)

[@tonywords6713]

Great movie

[@PowerThrusts29]

maybe Aster was too spooked after his research to have the actual Paimon sigil on his film set

[@enragedkaiser237]

I love biblical/occult/spiritual stuff like this, great video! Also, Goetia is kinda similar to Pokemon in a way, lol

[@kerrytakashi12]

Pokemon is based on the Goetia. You didn't put two and two together? So is Magical Beasts and Where to Find them.

[@tonywords6713]

Kerry Takashi yes and also tarot card that’s why I lot of church people made a fuss

[@hvaleos666]

another great video! I really enjoy your analysis