Hero Training Area¦ How to BEST make use? ¦ State of Survival

[@wackoRashGaming]

Hello all you mammals out there, Following the release of the 1.15.20 Update today, please take note that the training area slots has been increase from the original 15. So do take note of this change. If you want to know what happened to your combat manuals :- check out this video kzbin.info/www/bejne/fKq4dGt-Yqace80 Thank you all!❤🦍

[@bobwilson5410]

A very pleasant surprise

[@Tragicand1]

Been doing this almost two yrs now, I can’t believe this wasn’t in every state from day one

[@wackoRashGaming]

I know right, it is TRAGIC! 😅

[@JUMP]

Great video, Wacko! 🔥

[@wackoRashGaming]

thank you! much appreciated❤❤🦍🦍

[@pradeepram13]

But I'm losing BP, even if i use the acquired manuals low level heros and applied to top heros. Any idea why? Overall bp should not go down right, since I'm moving manuals from one hero to another. Net effect of bp shouldn't be there right

[@tyrs1658]

I think this can be useful to a degree, although it kills part of the fun of leveling up the heroes (we had to make sure we had enough books every gen). For F2p and mid spenders, I means better marches on showdown and RR, so I'm ok with this. Whales were going to max them out anyway 😂😂

[@wackoRashGaming]

Exactly, whales were always able to max those heroes out super duper fast. Just spend all those biocaps in the store. I tend to grind it out but it does take easily 3 months to max them. It took me the full 10 weeks to get Essie, Derek and Arthur to level 80. That was so slog! However I also understand indeed it takes out the process of challenging yourself to hit level 80 when new generation of heroes are released.

[@velickovicferid1500]

04:41 - when gen 10 comes out just put them in the training mode and they will have lvl 80 , remove 3 heros who are not needed in the training area and set them there , you dont need to upgrade them to general to push lvl 80 on them anymore .

[@velickovicferid1500]

no matter which rank they are , you can push them to lvl 80

[@wackoRashGaming]

@@velickovicferid1500 I agree with you, so I am excited about gen10 as I will be able to max them to level 80 fast!😃

[@velickovicferid1500]

@@wackoRashGaming i got this feature on my state for over 1 year now , i was always asking my self how hard it is for old states without it . Wish you good luck whit Gen 10

[@wackoRashGaming]

@@velickovicferid1500 it is a bit mix, in old states we only need 6m combat manuals to max epic (purple heroes) but as rally leader i always have problem with books

[@wifeyforlifey2150]

One thing I don't understand is.. there is a max of 15 heroes you can level up right? So what happens when you switch them out for another hero? Do they go back to level 1?

[@wackoRashGaming]

when you enter into the hero training centre for the first time for old states. all your heroes gets reset to level 1. You cannot upgrade the heroes assigned in the hero training area with xp books. When you remove them, they go back to level 1. The new hero you assign in the hero training area will become level 80

[@-Pummelfee-]

great video, almost everything in it. You just forgot to mention that you can't reset heroes every day. The more times you reset them, the longer it takes before you can do it again

[@wackoRashGaming]

Hey Alwine, I tested it in the PTR server and it allowed me to reset the same hero 3 times today without cooldown. I didn't want to risk saying something out of terms. Either a) the ptr version of the hero training centre is bugged or b) the developers are going to release an update to all states. So I avoided to comment on the risk of getting that wrong.😓😓

[@Kr0m0letta]

I play at State 615 and we have the Training Centre from the beginning, you can use it first with HQ 15 for 8 Heroes (3 + 5) and you get one more slot every second upgrade from the hero prediction (17,19,21 …) for older Staates these are not so important, because the most are so high Level

[@wackoRashGaming]

@@Kr0m0letta thank you. That's an important point that it only open from HQ 15+. In PTR in already P8 so no limits. Yes you are correct, in older states not so important as most HQs are minimum P6 if F2P and active.

[@sandrakelman4421]

my new generation 10 heros are at level 60 which is stronger than my level80 with travis rusty and the 3rd hero. what im confused at should i be using them as trainers or using the level 80 does it not drag down the strength of my level 60s. it will take forever to get all gen10 up to level 80.

[@sandrakelman4421]

i should add its chosen lucky as a trainer which is only level 20 cos ive never upgraded her......????

[@wackoRashGaming]

Hi you level 80 hero, will be made as instructors. You gen10 hero, put them in training area. They will become level 80 also.

[@wackoRashGaming]

@@sandrakelman4421 no, use combat manual and upgrade to level 80. Any Hero you have at rank general make them level 80 using books. Then put the rest in training area. So level 20 also can become level 80

[@sandrakelman4421]

@@wackoRashGaming but does level 60 upgraded to 80 retain same battle power as before or does it take the lower strength of older level 80 trainers. i hope im making sense here

[@sandrakelman4421]

the game system chose a level 20 a 40 and a 60 as trainers

[@oldman9916]

Still didnt upgrade, but is it possible to change instructors after game selected them?

[@wackoRashGaming]

Unfortunately, it's not possible to change instructors. The game auto selects the instructor. You can use the instructors as normal in your marches. So should be ok.

[@oldman9916]

Just to make sure before i do it..as im from s73 game will autoselect highest ranked legendary heroes as instructors and not strongest?

[@scotteide4380]

What level do you have to be to unlock this feature

[@shinigami9819]

Awesome video wacko🔥🔥🔥

[@wackoRashGaming]

thank you, much appreciated. hope you found it helpful❤❤🦍🦍

[@kaliyuga6199]

So, uhm, maybe I am missing something, but nobody's gonna mention the fact that for f2p and medium tier players, the skill books were never the issue for levelling up, but the lack of gold frags? cool cool cool cool

[@wackoRashGaming]

Hey there, yes you are correct, I don't expect most active F2P and mid tier folks will have much trouble to level up their heroes. If anything I expect players in these tiers especially to have plenty in their backpack.

[@kaliyuga6199]

@@wackoRashGaming my backpack: 770k 100 xp books, 7,5k 1k xp books, 86 10k xp books, 2,4k 50k xp books, 1 100k xp book 🤣

[@ricardopergentino400]

Finally they put it on for all states

[@wackoRashGaming]

Exactly, it was a long overdue feature. The new states benefited this. Everytime during alliance showdown I get annoyed because other states have huge rally capacity so fast but old states have to suffer. So many showdown loses was avoidable if old states also has this feature.🥳🥳

[@Kaboom2237]

What makes you put the gold heros in as 3 training heros?

[@wackoRashGaming]

To be honest it's only because I had space I tend to always use Mike and Travis in all explorer mission. The 3rd person being Nikola. Then some event specials using Maddie is good so not maxing them out with books seems like a good idea as they will continue getting books without the need to lose it. So should be able to accumulate it through this way. That was my logic I get to include maddie and nikola in heroes training. Hope it makes sense.

[@azirru8117]

If you are aiming for “Hero” leaderboard for gen10, use combat manual to max them to lvl80. Assigning gen10 in “hero training” will give you fake BP and march cap but it will not count in “hero” leaderboard. :)

[@wackoRashGaming]

Awesome, thanks for the clarification. That's what I also heard the fake level 80 indeed is not counted on the hero leaderboard.

[@bowlnut17]

State 364, fake heroes do count on hero leaderboard, but sometimes they do not get the full BP as a real hero. You then have to take the hero out of the training area and level him up with points.

[@raywright2401]

Almost all my heros already maxed.. now i wake up to this... trying to figure how to get them back to where they already were?!?!!?!

[@wackoRashGaming]

Hey there, I had many additional questions on this topic. Here's how to look at it. In old states the cost of xp books to upgrade purple heroes was example 13m and the cost to upgrade gold heroes was 15m xp book. However, following the update both purple heroes and gold heroes now cost 15m xp books. This is why the training centre was released to all old states. 1) you only need 7 marches, use your xp books to upgrade your top 7 sets of heroes back to the highest level. 2) the remaining heroes, assign them to the training area and make them level 80. 3) you will have spare xp books in your back pack afterwards. I will hopefully try to make a video to show folks for release tomorrow.

[@mariebrewer1003]

Can you change the instructors???

[@wackoRashGaming]

no you cannot change the instructors, they are selected as default.

[@wangdorothy8138]

Enjoyed watching your vid, I always thought that the experience points gained through explorer will not be returned after resetting the heroes.

[@wackoRashGaming]

Thank you so much. I'm really pleased to hear folks like yourself are finding it helpful. I'm in an old state, but surely in the PTR server, I seen it is returned which is amazing.

[@NotTheArin1]

The 15 hero limit may vary. In state 623, we currently have an 18 hero limit in the training center as of version 1.15.2

[@wackoRashGaming]

Hey there, I just heard this change. Thank you so much for sharing. Interesting, but I don't see any added values for the additional slots.🤷‍♂️

[@AeonicEnnui]

The cap increases as your plasma level increases

[@wackoRashGaming]

@@AeonicEnnui hey there, thank you so much for your comment. you are absolutely correct. unfortunately this was not available in the ptr server. therefore, it was still stuck at 15. It seems the live release showed us some new features that has also been rolled out to all states new and old.🦍🦍

[@christianblackert5889]

Thanks for the vid and the details about this feature. Well I am not a fan of it from what I saw. Working on your heros to get them to 80 was a cruical part also to max your rally size. With this stupid feature all run around with max rally size and march size, because the got a gen 1 hero to 80. No need anymore to farm any xp books to work on your heros level, so that part gets now useless. 15 heros, that 5 generations of heros you can put there, so you have 5 marches covered without using a single xp book. What a stupid feature...

[@wackoRashGaming]

I understand what you mean. They've taken out an element of grinding in the game to get to level 80. However on the flip side, many of state 279+ are already having this benefit and older states i do feel are at a disadvantage. These new states already have analysis centre also.

[@alesoria7615]

Si colocarás subtitulos en español sería genial.

[@phyllisharris853]

Thank you

[@wackoRashGaming]

You're welcome💖🦍

[@ReaperHackz]

is this coming to state 82 ?

[@wackoRashGaming]

Hey there, yes, this will be released to all old states. Get ready and find out what you need to do.

[@ReaperHackz]

@@wackoRashGaming let's go yeah I have it on my state 904 because I'm starting out on a new state but I also have an all on state 82 for the experience on an Old State even though I can't do anything because everyone's too strong 🤣

[@wackoRashGaming]

Wow 904 already, that's a lot of states between 82 and 904

[@someperson4397]

We never got back enough books to level back our heroes to how they were and CS are runned my so and sos😆

[@wackoRashGaming]

Hey there, that's correct for the first reset the books seems to drive an issue. But it isn't about this. In old state, the epic Heroes cost let's say 13m xp books and legendary heroes cost you 15m xp books. However, now both epic and legendary heroes cost you 15m xp books. So you actually got the same amount of books but to upgrade them the old way, you now need more books. However, that's the whole idea of idea of the training area, to assign unwanted heroes to the training arena and they will be level 80 without the need of more books. In the end you will see they are all level 80 and you have books to spare.

[@ronan7681]

Why state 54 dont have this?

[@wackoRashGaming]

Hey Ronan, I think there is a delay. All states from State 1 to 266 will have Hero Training Area. I suspect it is either stuck to be released on 14th of April to us old states.

[@ronan7681]

@@wackoRashGaming thank you wacko😊

[@amethyst_025]

Oooh! I thought all states have hero training area 😲 Good to know I was doing the right strategy. Thanks!

[@wackoRashGaming]

😢 no old states up to 266 have no hero training area. So we are all at some disadvantage.

[@zaresamo224]

Nice new for RR is Eco end ol heros reset on lv 1 ...for regist.RR trick...swett...

[@wackoRashGaming]

Good idea! Reset all heroes to level 1 before RR🤣

[@ronan7681]

Old state never get that?

[@wackoRashGaming]

Old state never had it before but I suspect it will be available next week on the 14th of April. The dev feedback did note we (the old states) will get it mid April.

[@knudahrnellalbrechtsen5136]

After hero reset all my experience books are gone..

[@wackoRashGaming]

Hey they are in your backpack - check you backpack and let me know. Alternatively join my discord and we can help you out.

[@knudahrnellalbrechtsen5136]

@@wackoRashGaming Hi Thanks for the reply. No they are not in my backpack. All the experience books used by my heroes a gone. I checked the contend of my backpack against a screenshot i took two days ago before state merger. And i had to use whatever was in the backpack to fill heroes back up. And now i have 6 heroes i cant fill.

[@knudahrnellalbrechtsen5136]

@@wackoRashGaming And just joined your discord :)

[@bedoeg]

Ohh for old states, add the not maxed rank heroes in your best 6 marches you use to training center so they reach lvl 80 you already have tons exp in bag if you old state, poor advice from video adding based on legend or epic :/

[@wackoRashGaming]

Hey there, thank you for your feedback. I believe I said in the video for old states (especially) to add your epic heroes first especially if you are from old states. I said in new states to add your legendary first. I hope I clarified your understanding on the video. Let me know thanks.

[@bedoeg]

@@wackoRashGaming in old states the epic heroes already ranked to max and can reach level 80 by using combat manuals while not maxed rank legendary heroes can only reach level 80 by trainers help so it's better to add only heroes used in best 7 marches that not maxed in rank so they reach lvl 80 no matter epic or legendary they are

[@wackoRashGaming]

@@bedoeg hey there, thank you for your comment. I think that would depend on your spending/heroes capabilities. I made a new video to explain both. In this video you would see when I have little max 80 legendary heroes, I put them in training area. When on spenders account I put epic in training area. So it does depends.

[@dylanhunt4303]

ID rather reset old legendary heros and get back gold fragments, even 2:1 retio

[@wackoRashGaming]

You don't get the gold frags, you only get the experience books.

[@dhetaananda7514]

2,3 view 1 h you are very popular😍

[@wackoRashGaming]

Thank you❤🦍

[@Manche-De-Pelle]

Im in an old state and that features sucks ...

[@faazehsalleh4859]

They just stealing our book exp...i cant max my hero like before bcos lag book exp now that mean dev stealing my book exp

[@wackoRashGaming]

The new update introduced actually increased the amount of books needed from purple heroes. That's why it looks like you have less books but actually it's because you now need more books. However, that's also the reason why you need to use the Hero Training Area. I suggested to set purple heroes in the training area to save those xp books if you need them but you can also set heroes not rank as general to training centre and make them to level 80 (in previous you cannot do this)

[@footsmell2128]

This feature is a joke. My so called 3 instructors were my worst ranked heroes like it chose lucky at rank 40. There is no place or option to change instructors. I see it as a waste of time,money,biocaps,events etc etc. To be a waste of time 2 plus years worth of time. More work for false power

[@wackoRashGaming]

hey there, that's not right. what your best infantry, hunter and rider hero by stats? Can you use the combat manual and make them to level 80? Then they would automatically become the instructor