Heroes in History: Pirate

[@discountplaguedoctor88]

As far as historic pirates go, I would've preferred 'Black Bart' Roberts over Blackbeard. 400 ships taken in a 3-year career will ALWAYS speak for themselves.

[@southyonko6455]

Black beard better

[@discountplaguedoctor88]

@@southyonko6455 Great job, you just undermined your idea of an argument. There's no space in his nickname, pal!

[@unoneprofile4518]

Or Francis drake

[@michaeltheundeadmariachi4494]

And this line certainly speaks volumes, "in a world without gold we might've been heroes", now we can certainly doubt that Black Beard said this in real life as his last words, but certainly does speak a lot about the morality of man and money

[@discountplaguedoctor88]

@@michaeltheundeadmariachi4494 Yes, but that's Assassin's Creed from BEFORE it switched being an RPG series.

[@mondaysinsanity8193]

Actually id argue her pardon is exactly what makes her legend great. Anyone can raid and pillage. Its far different to create the largest most efficient navy in the east that can stand up to portugal out of pirates. Then forces china to not just let her retire in fashion BUT EVERY SINGLE ONE OF HER MEN aswell. Shes a legend because she wasnt just a badass She was smart

[@kaptinkanoodle5039]

Not anyone can raid and pillage successfully, especially over a long career. She happened to be good at raiding and settling the diplomatic matters afterwards.

[@mondaysinsanity8193]

@@kaptinkanoodle5039 yes anyone can raid and pillage long career maybe not. Tho yeah. My point was that the fact she retired is what makes her unique she's like the only one

[@pwonim350]

Here's the thing, everyone talking about blackbeard but what about Roberts, the man who created the pirate code and was also the most succesful pirate to ever live according to history.

[@thethinkingfox8862]

Henry Every gang

[@jacopoarmini7889]

Ching Shih is a good inspiration in my opinion, not just because she's quite novel when compared to the very stereotyped Blackbeard inspired pirate, and in my opinion asian pirates are way scarier than western ones, mostly because their fleets and influence were way bigger.

[@catneko6855]

Fun unrelated fact, I met one of your other fans in game and we legit just chatted about how cool it was we could make lore- we chatted about the channel and how the new videos have been real good recently.

[@annihilator5494]

Me: Thats gotta be the best pirate I ever seen. Blackbeard fan boys: So it would seem.

[@mkdemigodzillawarrior]

Well, that was actually an interesting counter argument for why Ching Shih is better as the inspiration than Blackbeard. I never realized Blackbeard’s reign of terror was actually only a year or so. I figured he lasted longer than that. Although, one thing that I do wonder about: Did Ching Shih and her Red Flag Fleet used guns? I have read that unlike most Chinese pirates, she and her fleet didn’t really used guns, which does make her final battle against the Qing Dynasty, Portugal, and I believe the British as well more impressive if she manage to fight them off with just swords and bows. It is rather ironic that the hero inspired by her uses a pistol extensively in her move set if that really was the case.

[@taejo4975]

Well I do certainly believe her fleet would have some cannons and guns but probably didn’t armed most of the fleet with it

[@mkdemigodzillawarrior]

@@taejo4975 Ah, that would make sense.

[@intrvrtkev]

Shes bad ass, Im just happy we got a pirate hero.

[@brotherlorcalthetheloyalis4928]

For all those who love Blackbeard, I gotta say, I’m sorry, but he’s a little overrated. If we were to get a pirate from the Western Countries, I would have preferred Francis Drake, John “Calico Jack” Rackham, or Anne Bonnie and Mary (or Mark) Read. Other than that Cheng Shih was a great choice. Thank you for the video, Raven

[@mondaysinsanity8193]

Xiang xi i believe Js

[@tiringsarcasm]

While I agree that people are exaggerating the story of Blackbeard too much. That was kind of what he wanted, putting lit fuses into his beard and hat to strike fear in to his enemies and crew. The story about his death where he supposedly took over 20 shots and cuts before succumbing. The only bad thing about his is that he overshadows a lot of other cool and badass pirate stories.

[@zombisplatter1918]

This is better than school for many reasons

[@jacopoarmini7889]

the problem of being freer than everyone like a pirate, is that your freedom will probably come at the cost of everyone else's. Freedom is surely the greatest thing a man can have, but it is truly expressed when everyone else is just as free.

[@edwardfontaine7108]

Freedom always comes with a cost and not all those who pay it are free.

[@godwhyofficial6252]

Remember the honor video you did, do you think pirates had a code of honor

[@RavenKnightYT]

Mmmm....probably not. I mean they had standards, but honor I don't think factored into it.

[@Hardy3000]

Isn’t it kinda weird that the famous pirates weren’t even pirates for that long?

[@mkdemigodzillawarrior]

It is.

[@chibipotate]

Thats probably exactly why, Ya get famous and everyone knows what to look for to claim that bounty

[@magicman3163]

You die fast in a job without security

[@Youngblood457]

Most famous pirates or not pirates four that long vary hazardous job

[@tommytampons2080]

Damn the biggest pirate fleet and she lived to be old.

[@mondaysinsanity8193]

Not just the biggest pirate fleet. The largest navy in the eastern hemisphere

[@zebrachair2264]

Well there is no text in history saying she was ever in the battle but yea cool being diplomatic

[@financialproblems9308]

theyre pirates, by definition they are criminals who work off intimidation and brutality.

[@ZeusStormbringer]

Raven had this video ready to go since he guessed what the new hero is

[@april.haunta6678]

Does he have a video out where he speculates what some of the upcoming heroes may be?

[@RavenKnightYT]

I sometimes release a video when the new heroes are hinted at and I give my predictions.

[@kvancbagan3267]

Ching shih❌ Ching sheeesh✔

[@BigBussinBiscuits]

5:39 killing captives is punishable?? These guys are literally not even pirates bro. Not even comparable to the great thatch.

[@RavenKnightYT]

You do know Blackbeard didn't usually kill his captives either, right?

[@BigBussinBiscuits]

@@RavenKnightYT I just wanted to bring up blackbeard because you seem to dislike the amount of hype surrounding him. But that being said yes im aware he used flames on his hat to intimidate merchants into giving in. And usually he didn't kill, that being said he had no problem doing so. He also was completely selfish which is pretty in line with a pirate more so than one who made sure her entire fleet is compensated and unharmed. Thatch took his main ship and abandoned most of his crew and died in a drunken battle with a captain of a navy vessel. He went down as a pirate who was willing to die just to be free took from everyone and gave to no one the definition of a pirate. And all this being said I still like henry as a pirate far more than Blackbeard. I just wish I could change the gender of pirate at the end of the day. Especially since most pirates were male.

[@marsmeadiuvat2439]

So about the quote at the beginning, no matter how correct it sounds, I've seen many essays claiming it to be misquoted.

[@labodge7322]

Well i have lear that black beard is NOT as great as i tought and if am being honest raven thart compilation at the end make me laught as much as an zanny aand marco yolo fused together keep the amazing work you doing. I also want to say that i really wished that your were my history teacher because i've would want to do extra homework just to learn more from your great wisdom so with all my admiration and freindship thank you for beeing who you are

[@ivanwong1968]

As cool as she may be, she is not the greatest pirate of all time. That title belongs to Captain Jack Sparrow. Fite me, REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE!

[@jccarbone6361]

Honestly I know this is 9 months late but I honestly what of went more of a Sir Frances Drake as we already have China around so I feel like Drake or Black Bart may have been better for a more Caribbean or Spanish type to join the hero ranks

[@Sidian.Rose.]

What would've been cool is to have a male and female variation of pirate, the female having a resemblance to Ching Shu and the make having resemblance to Black Bart or Blackbeard. I think then it woudlve have both sides happy.

[@isengarde9490]

I'm more shocked that a *woman* in those times was able to hold several fleets worth of men in line. That's not even adding in the whole career criminality bit. I also like the specification for the three rules, saying that raping, and torturing prisoners/crewmembers wasn't allowed. I myself enjoyed the great lie known as 'Honor Amongst Thieves' after watching the Pirates Trilogy (Justice for Johnny) but really that's never been the case. You don't even have to go back to the age of piracy to debunk that myth, just go back to the Roaring 20s in American History and see that the mobsters only *looked* nice. Frankly, and yes I *know* it's a movie, I can't help but agree with Christopher Nolan's Joker during the interrogation scene; "I'll show you. When the chips are down these, uh 'civilized people?' They'll *eat* eachother." It's just Human nature isn't it? Stabbing other people to further your own agenda?

[@SerAstraeusXIV]

ive been looking forward to this

[@unoneprofile4518]

They could have added a pirate based on Francis drake

[@Taco-Seller]

30 characters, we only have 4 left

[@xr9790]

I think Zheng and Blackbeard are the Tupac and Biggy of Pirates, one is like the superhero of pirates and the other is more of a greatest hits supervillain/troublemaker. It really just depends on what you want from a pirate I still think in game they shouldn’t have gender locked pirate just because of how general of a concept a pirate is, but idm

[@april.haunta6678]

I’d love to have a hero based off a brawler style character. Who uses knuckle weapons and when they party the punch your weapon back at you

[@mkdemigodzillawarrior]

It would definitely be interesting to see, especially with Katars.

[@april.haunta6678]

@@mkdemigodzillawarrior I didn’t even think about Qatars, I was thinking along the lines of brass knuckles or a cestus type weapon but that would be cool too

[@ThePa1riot]

I mean . . . half the Centurions move set consists of beating the living crap out of the opponent.

[@pxrposewithnopurpose5801]

pirate needs buff fr

[@Vulpecula-Enfield]

Wow, I can see why For Honor would base the Pirate off of her. She definitely was the Pirate Queen.

[@FeeshOfTGMC]

I would like to see Jiang Jun next also about Jormungandr they are most likely people that chose one nordic life style which is chaotic and wild(could resemble the snake if i am right), hammer is supposed to resemble hammer of Thor after he got defeated by the snake.

[@PizzaHutt117]

By the way since for honer has skins now they could do a black beard or jack sparrow skin for her and it would be awesome if they could get Johnny Depp to voice the hero skin

[@hirschmeistr6842]

The legend died at 69

[@breakeroutlaw9959]

Ubisoft made assassin's creed games that has ships where you can battle enemy ships, but after hearing this Chinese pirate history, IDK if Ubisoft can do it again like they did in AC4 black flag and AC rogue, how can they make it better than AC4 and AC Rogue?, and how can they make it work?

[@mondaysinsanity8193]

Ac is about the story Theres not alot to improve just update it add some more in depth upgrades and such and make it chinese

[@christlisnull2750]

What is that song at the end? Starts round 19:12?

[@xDominic2706x]

Glory or Gold - Galactikraken and Jonahthan Young

[@christlisnull2750]

@@xDominic2706x Thanks!

[@germanshepherd2701]

You don’t even have to argue that black beard is overrated. He’s just OVERUSED… so overused…. Pirate queen is badass and I’ve always loved her story. Nothing wrong with picking the more unique, less used, and undebatably badass choice of inspiration that’s my two cents

[@worldeater2414]

We get this Pirate, but not the Lioness of Brittany? A.K.A Jeanne de Clisson, A.K.A THE TERROR OF FRANC

[@Luci_goat]

9:43 i have a bad sense of humor

[@firofiore6638]

I was hoping for Jack Sparrow over Black Beard

[@dragonbornexpress5650]

That was never going to happen; Disney is extremely picky with licensing their IP's to other companies.

[@joeypeddy7290]

Legend of man is not what he does with power it's how he uses it so I think using the pirate queen is perfect a perfect choice

[@FuseKnight]

I love your videos but the final line felt very wrong to include in this context

[@RavenKnightYT]

Why?

[@adammcgee5626]

Raven no....no more hero pun jokes

[@AmbroseBoaBowie]

Ok I have a new found respect for this woman, but I still feel like she was playing on easy mode. She was competent and an amazing leader, but she didn’t have any one to stand up against her. It was only when other countries with superior navies got involved did they actually start having problems. I’m not discrediting her as a pirate but western pirates has it harder with the government As for what pirate would rather have in her place, or as Default 2 “Black Sam Bellamine

[@Cloudy3388]

Tbh gender locks are just stupid just give us the freedom of costumization ubi

[@RavenKnightYT]

I understand the irritation but I also understand the constraints of designing different body models, hiring different voice actors and actresses to do the same lines. I’m not saying it’s good, but it’s understandable.

[@AmbroseBoaBowie]

Sure, but can the Default 2 PLEASE be a western pirate!

[@vanillakino]

amei o video e concordo totalmente com voce, amo essa pirata

[@RavenKnightYT]

Obrigado. :)

[@vanillakino]

@@RavenKnightYT 😳

[@lowrider6217]

She’s tough as nails and a badass Pirate. Don’t care if it’s male or female, but it seems a lot more fitting for the pirate to be female imo

[@28br]

i mean cool story but i still dont get why they couldnt just let us choose

[@welshcrusade9837]

Ending was kinda cringe, but i enjoyed the history lesson!

[@syphonexp4695]

I do kinda hope that with the new “skins” system we can get a typical Blackbeard look or just a general male variation

[@brayancedeno2253]

This was a really good video and all but hear me out Jack sparrow DLC come on I would buy

[@jiseishin]

Yessir!

[@zacharyjohnson8037]

She is quite successful, but not the best pirate I've ever seen.

[@e6staffsargeify]

It's a shame that Pirate is broken

[@labodge7322]

learned*

[@Sidian.Rose.]

I would have liked to see Black Bart or Blackbeard to be added as the gender choice for the pirate.

[@mon_king_7827]

Im still wating for a muslim hero to have the ultimate deus vult duel

[@skylermontgomery9988]

I hate bloody pirates

[@dutchalwayshasaplan4956]

I love the whole inspiration and the character but the only thing I don’t like is that they are genderlocked.

[@kaptinkanoodle5039]

You argued that Blackbeard wasn't any more of a valiant warrior than Ching Shih, but he died leading his men in boarding a sloop full of marines and succumbed to 5 gunshot wounds and over 20 sword wounds. He also went back to piracy after a short break at a plantation. Shih never went back for more. Additionally, you tried to make it sound like the pirate life is about freedom, not quick money. I think Shih deserves to be the inspiration of pirate in FH, but you also tried to downplay black beard and make him sound more pathetic than he was.

[@RavenKnightYT]

Alright, let's discuss Blackbeards history. "He died leading his men in boarding a sloop full of marines and succubmed to 5 gunshot sounds and over 20 sword wounds. He also went back to piracy after a short break at a plantation." This is a clear romanticization of Blackbeard, and is carefully phrased to make him look better. Watch this: "Blackbeard accepted a pardon to avoid consequences for his piracy, but couldn't cut it as a plantation owner, and decided to go back to piracy. However, literally only a month or two after returning to piracy, he was ambushed by the marines and killed before he could do anything of note." THAT phrasing demonstrates a much less flattering vision of Blackbeard, but is no less true. You can embellish whatever you want, but facts are facts: Blackbeard was active for for far fewer years than Shih, took a pardon, tried to get back in the game, died trying. So sorry...Blackbeard REMAINS overrated. "Shih never went back for more." ...She didn't need to. She literally went to the fucking Chinese government and DICTATED THE TERMS to them. She not only was pardoned, she got everything she wanted out of it to get her crew and herself successful and profitable lives. She was smart enough to know when to cash in her chips and take the win. Blackbeard, meanwhile, had a midlife crisis and wanted to relive the glory days, only for it to bite him in the ass. "Additionally, you tried to make it sound like the pirate life is about freedom, not quick money." ...Didn't you literally just try to sell off an over embellished version of Blackbeards death to me to make him sound more valiant? Bruh. And when did I say it wasn't about making money? When on EARTH did I say that. Time stamp it for me, please? "I think Shih deserves to be the inspiration of pirate in FH, but you also tried to downplay black beard and make him sound more pathetic than he was." You need to understand that when Pirate was announced in FH, the community was up in arms because they wanted Blackbeard. Go check out my videos at the time and see all the comments saying they wanted pirates like Blackbeard or Jack Sparrow or whatever. So I was pointing out the truth about Blackbeard: He's incredibly overrated. I'm not saying he isn't worthy of a legacy, I'm saying that all the people commenting on my videos and saying 'Blackbeard better' don't know anything about him. I wouldn't even call him the greatest pirate of the Carribean. He just has the most presence.

[@kaptinkanoodle5039]

@@RavenKnightYT My point exactly. We both have the same information, just different interpretations on it. You didn't say much wrong (other than freedom being a factor in someone choosing to be a pirate, most of them did it because it was their best financial option and weren't financially secure enough to care about being free) but you choose to downplay black beard to support Ubisoft's choice to have Shih as the hero. Anyone can see that blackbeard was cool but his accomplishments are nothing compared to Shihs, except the FH community doesn't think logically, they think emotionally. I intentionally downplayed Shih in my comment to show how easy it is for interpretation to sway how you present facts. I agree with your last point that even if they chose a pirate from the golden age of piracy, there are better options. Hornigold and Black Bart Roberts would be better choices.

[@elshebactm6769]

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[@robertmckinney6943]

Yeah but… jack sparrow!

[@superdoran6396]

Well when your talking about pirates it does get very sketchy as what's true and what's not. Now is she the greatest pirate ever? No there was purates who literally took a country and ransomed it back. That's league's I think above controlling its trade they controlled all of it. Plus just like with blackboard which stories were true which weren't? You have to remember although it sounds cool to us her taking the entire spice trade at the time would of made many citizens hate her. For the simple fact that they know would have to pay extra tax on what they did get thanks to supply and demand. Which means if she didn't the Chinese government can jack up the prices to afford the richer lifestyle a noble would come to expect. And then conviently blame it on those "evil" pirates. The same could be said about there feats. Many could be disputed even if they defently happened simply thanks to how slow news travels back then. The problem is the same problem with blackbeard and the rest. That is unless you actually witnessed them doing it or have solid evidence of them doing it that comes from somewhere else then national leaders or government documents. Then it's very hard to see what's true and what isn't. As it would of bennifeted the Chinese government to tell the people of China that she didn't control the spice trade if she did and she did controll it if she didn't. It's like having a pervevol "Satan" or "boogyman". It's someone you can blame everything on including poor leadership or fincial desecions. We know some things that is a guaranteed truth about pirates such as certain ones taking a nation becluse other sources backed that up. Sources that would not bennifit at all if it's found true or false which means they had a lot mode reason to state the truth. The simple fact is many of her legend came from word of mouth spread by the government and documents written by the government. We have a very similar problem with blackbeard. For instance I can't tell you with 100 percent strength weither or not blackbeard did actually serve under that pirate, or weither he ever put wicks in his hair to set alight. Simply becouse many sources that talked about him would bennifit if he was seen in a certain light. For instance I can't even tell you if blackebeard really died after only a year. Becouse let's be honest based on just his stories it would be pretty obvious that you would know blackbeard if you saw him. But what if we took away a lot of what could of been bluffing? Then would you know him if you saw him? Did he really die off the coast of North Carolina, did she really die at the age of 69. These are questions that we can't anwser becouse the truth is we have no real witness accounts of either. It would bennifit the British greatly to say they killed blackbeard, and it would of bennifited china to say that she retired at to live to be old. But then again even with her old age most people at the time didn't live to be that old in China. There Healthcare at the time even for the rich wasn't exactly groundbreaking. So the question remains is this really true? It's a question that historians and scientist constantly fight with.

[@wendigo8835]

Edward low would honestly be a lot more of a better pirate if we were going for brutal.

[@lancer8364]

F*** Blackbeard I like how they decided to be unique and choose someone underappreciated

[@dragonbornexpress5650]

Agreed. Blackbeard is cool and all, but he's extremely cliche; I like how they decided to go with a Chinese pirate this time.

[@birubu]

Should have been Shay Cormac

[@dragonbornexpress5650]

Guy ain't even a pirate.

[@thesmilyguyguy9799]

:)

[@callsign_ghost3189]

Edward Kenway better

[@dragonbornexpress5650]

Subjective.

[@Arthur-zb9eh]

Died at the age of 69. Nice

[@jordeus8822]

i would love to give the new hero a try but the fact that you can't play as a male is just stupid.

[@karasutaiga6214]

Besides a female pirate is awesome cause most guys are like oh female warriors meh I rather play a male

[@alastortheworshipperofkhorne]

Black beard is disgustingly overrated